User talk:The Master of Mayhem/Archive 5

What Gives?
Hey, my edit to Angel Hernandez was 100% truthful. Why the deletion? 98.217.235.103 (talk) 13:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors
Hi Master of Mayhem,

Welcome to the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog elimination drives! I believe it's your first time there? I've just had a bit of a look at the articles you've listed as having copy-edited for May, and think they may need a bit more work.

Please make sure you've carefully read WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives, and that you're familiar with Basic copyediting and the Manual of Style. WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to contains some useful advice. I'll drop the 'Reviewer chair' User:Diannaa a note, and she may be able to provide some more specific advice. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Master of Mayhem. I am going to look at each of the articles that you have posted on the Drive page so far and give you some feedback. Sorry, I know this is a lot of information all at once, but getting this feedback is a great way to quickly improve your skills and learn about the particular needs and style guidelines of this wiki.


 * Professor Zoom: You only did copy edits to one section so you should therefore only take credit for that section. That means the word count should only be 79 words. But the section still does not make any sense: I am unable to understand it. If you are not able to understand it either, perhaps you should have left this article for someone else to do.


 * Tupolev Tu-144: You really did very little work to this article. When I started reading it I could see why: The article was tagged for copy edit and did not actually need any work. When this occurs, please do not take credit for the article. Just remove the copy edit tag and select another article.


 * Transport in Greater Tokyo: This one is fine.


 * 10th Aviation Regiment (United States): I think you should have converted the Lineage section to prose, or added asterisks to turn it into a bulleted list. I have gone ahead and converted to prose . The word "or" should have been left capitalised because in this instance it means "gold". This section is the stylised language used in heraldry to describe shields and crests. So "Or" should be capitalised the same as "Sable" (black) and "Azure" (blue). Since the unit is American, I converted to American-style dates. For articles on the modern US military, dd-mm-yy is the format that is used. WP:STRONGNAT. -- Diannaa  (Talk) 18:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ayako Tsuru: has some grammar and punctuation problems. In the lead, the last sentence is incomplete and should either be made grammatical or combined with the previous sentence by changing the punctuation. In the second section we have the opposite problem: two sentences are joined together with a comma. These need to be split into two grammatically correct complete sentences. Mexico City should have each word capitalised, in each occurrence throughout the article. This sentence needs the word "and" in place of the comma: "She exhibited Japanese inks, mural painting in 1989." In the list section, an equals sign is used as punctuation. It is not a punctuation sign. This should be converted to the use of commas and periods. Example:
 * National School of Arts (UNAM): oil painting and enamels, Mexico City, Mexico. 1967
 * Do them all the same way. The newspaper names in the "references" section should be in italics.


 * Ben 10 (toy line): This one was well done.

I will look at the History of Sri Lanka tomorrow. It looks OK and I think it only needs some punctuation fixes. If you could please adjust your totals on the drive page for the first two articles that would be great. Thanks. -- Diannaa (Talk) 03:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I have updated your totals on the drive page to reflect the above information. These articles have been removed from the totals, as they were not adequately copy edited:
 * Ayako Tsuru (249)
 * History of Sri Lanka (6466)
 * This one required no copy edits, and should not have been included in your totals:
 * Tupolev TU-144 (8043)
 * The word count for Professor Zoom was reduced, as only one section was copy edited. I have made corrections to your drive totals and the leader board. Sorry about that. I hope you are not too downhearted to continue editing with our group! Please let one of us know if you need any help. Regards, -- Diannaa (Talk) 21:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Thx!
Hi m8

Thanks very much for the bstar :¬)

Long time no speak, glad you joined GOCE though. If you need any help feel free to ask.

Did you attempt the various practice pages ? WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/How_to They do take a little time but may help if you haven't already done them. If you want to steal anything from my user pages feel free lol. I find the GOCE sections particularly useful here and here as well as this:

Nice to see you got your tabs up and running! Anyway, good luck for the May drive and, as I said before, any help just ask :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 18:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Storm 2
I dunno what happened there, I thought I had left you a note after I Roboassessed it yesterday! Sorry m8, something must have gone wrong with the save - maybe I closed the tab too quickly. I thought it was strange it was already gone when I came to say thx, I guessed that you had the autoarchive set at 24 hours, guess I was wrong lol. Anyway I basically said:

Nice work! Especially the completed tables, I have assessed it as a start class.

Everything ok with you? I haven't bumped in to any edits you have made recently, but have been off for a fortnight with conjunctivitis :¬( and only just caught up with all the goings on in time for the start of the GOCE copyedit drive...

Keep up the good work! Chaosdruid (talk) 19:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

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Copyedits
I don't want to sound like a bad school teacher, or a nagging parent, but probably will lol - you shouldn't really count articles in the "completed" section if you haven't finished them, such as the Tupolev one...

You also seem to have missed quite a bit in the History of Sri Lanka one and you might want to go over it again. Alternatively I could copyedit it as well, and then you could see the changes I make - either choice is fine by me :¬)

I just want to make sure that you don't get into any deep water with out a flotation aid, or a creek without a paddle, as someone will be along to check your work sooner or later, well sooner as I was going to check one of them tonight lol, anyway have another look and let me know which you decide.

Chaosdruid (talk) 03:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

History of Sri Lanka
I have copydited the lead and you can have a look to see what I did here. Obviously I would not expect you to make all those sort of changes yet as you are a fledgling copyeditor, I am just showing you so that you can look at it for reference :¬) I will have a look into the article itself now and provide a critique of it for you.


 * Balagoda Man is a group, adding "The" made it appear as an individual (similar to The Neanderthal Man)
 * Commas and do the same job, so only one is required - ", (about 4 centimetres in length)," same as where a complete sentence was in brackets.
 * "leaders were born of a mythical union between a lion and a human princess" - I changed it by adding "supposedly".
 * Words which are then translated in brackets are generally italicised and quoted on their first use - The Oeufs des Anglais ("English eggs") are often used...
 * "The blah blah, and blah blah." - Both the comma as well as the "and" are used to join phrases. Only one is needed, try to remove one to leave the more appropriate one. Short sentences often do not need splitting so that the comma can be removed, or replaced with another joining word. A comma is normally used to split associated phrases that are not talking about the same thing (as in my previous sentence where the first part talks about comma removal and the second part about replacing with another word - both are talking about the same thing though, splitting associated phrases).

Generally the copyediting you did was fine, mainly some punctuation necessary - for which I recommend a read of Manual_of_Style and the exercises on learning to copyedit pages on the GOCEhow to and some which are on my GOCE page User:Chaosdruid/usefullinks/GOCE under the section "Tony's editing guides").

It took a considerable time for me to copyedit the article, as you can see (4 hours), and rather than me list the main areas you missed it is probably better if you look at my edits from the diffs, which might also help you understand more.

Try and just do one section at a time. Doing one big copyedit has a couple of disadvantages: other editors cannot easily use diffs to see what was changed and if anyone did try and edit while you were doing the copyedit you would have got an edit-conflict which would have been difficult to fix. You can also then stop for a break! continuing when you have recovered, or the next day if it goes into the early hours.

I hope this hasn't put you off copyediting! THe article was a pretty difficult one and I do admire you for trying it. There is a lot to learn from MoS' to grammatical problems (see this one User:Giraffedata/comprised_of out of interest) and if you are not sure of things, or want someone else to go over your work, you can always ask. I am more than happy to help, as would many others, the learning curve is fairly steep at first - you should see some of the mistakes I made in the first few months lol! Chaosdruid (talk) 17:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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