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A barnstar for you!

 * Much appreciated, thanks! The Optimistic One (talk) 01:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Um...
Thank you? But if you noticed it needed updating, I would have preferred you notified me on my talk page. User pages should only be edited the owning editor unless where strictly necessary. Just a heads up. Thanks again anyways. --  Alex TW 02:38, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

I just thought you completely forgot about updating it since it was last updated over a month ago. I will notify you on your talk page next time it needs updating. Thanks. The Optimistic One (talk) 02:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll edit to when I plan to and when I want to. Simply because you copied my layout, does not mean it's up to you to change it on my page. Thanks. --  Alex TW 12:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I never said it was up to me to change what's on your page. I said i would notify you on your talk page if the information on your page is outdated encase you might have forgot about updating it yourself. And let's be honest, you copied that layout from someone else. The Optimistic One (talk) 12:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? I most certainly did not. --  Alex TW 13:00, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * List in July 2015, Table format in September 2015, Border-collapse style the next day, Non-breakable spaces in December 2015, Cell spacing in November 2016. I look forward to your apology. I get it, people often get salty when they're caught out being unoriginal. --  Alex TW 13:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You have way too much time on your hands. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Only took about five minutes. Well spent, though. Looks like I didn't copy anything. --  Alex TW 13:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You're not getting an apology from me. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:05, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problems. I get it, you don't like being called out on your lies and attacks. :) --  Alex TW 14:12, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * What lies? What attacks? The Optimistic One (talk) 14:13, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Remind me where you accused me of copying content? --  Alex TW 14:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * How was that a lie? A lie is an intentionally false statement, i was actually convinced at the time that you copied that layout from someone else. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It's okay. One day you'll create your own stuff. :) Nice tabs too. --  Alex TW 14:39, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". :) You should be flattered. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * An editor should know the difference between plagiarism and imitation. :) --  Alex TW 14:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * They should, i do, you don't. Here's a quote from last March, which can be viewed in my third archive page. "Just the favourite movies and top edited pages, everything else was there before i knew you [Alex]." – The Optimistic One, so is it all plagiarism after all Alex? The Optimistic One (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Plagiarism isn't entire. I can write up an essay of 2,000 words and copy 200 words from an online source. That's plagiarism. --  Alex TW 15:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * How is it plagiarism when i openly admitted that i copied some content from your page layout? That's imitation, not plagiarism. Know the difference! The Optimistic One (talk) 15:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter if you admitted it. Plagiarism is the act of copying, that's it, admittance or not. --  Alex TW 15:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Here's Google's definition; Plagarism: The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. So am i passing it off as my own work Alex? The Optimistic One (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * How very scholar of you to use Google. Did you credit me when you initially used it? --  Alex TW 15:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well...... you know, i kinda had to because you were spewing Bull**** nonsense about what plagiarism is, i didn't pass it off as my own original work since i... kinda... admitted that i copied some content from your page layout.... So........ it's not plagiarism after all. it's.... imitation. The Optimistic One (talk) 15:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You admitted later, not the instant that you used it. Plagarism. --  Alex TW 15:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah right, i admitted it after you gave me a snotty message on my talk page. Your social ineptitude is embarrassing. The Optimistic One (talk) 19:02, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Your. Yeah, that's because I was snotty over my content being plagiarized. --  Alex TW 01:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, boo hoo, did you get upset because someone copied something from your userpage? (which is technically not plagiarism since i admitted that it wasn't my own work). Grow up a little please or else throw a childish tantrum on someone else's talk page. The Optimistic One (talk) 02:41, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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Official confirmation
It has been officially confirmed that the two people involved in the murder-suicide is indeed Chuck Williams aka Rockin' Rebel and his wife. The news broke around 8 o' clock this morning. Here's the link. http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0603/641449/police-release-update-on-rockin-rebel-murder-suicide/


 * Can you find another source making that claim other than Wrestlinginc?, and please don't forget to sign your posts. The Optimistic One (talk) 18:13, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries and preview your edits
Hi there. Just a friendly reminder that you should try and use edit summaries when making any edits. I also highly suggest previewing your edits before making them, since you seem to make several rapid-fire edits all with no edit summaries. This is mainly from seeing your edits on my watchlist for the Better Call Saul season articles, where you've probably accumulated over 100 edits over the last week all of which have no edit summaries. This makes it very difficult for other editors to gauge what has been changed, and it's made even more difficult when you make close to a dozen edits in a row, when it could probably all happen in one edit. Again, this is just a friendly suggestion. Keep up the good work! Drovethrughosts (talk) 20:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about all that, i have final exams coming up soon, so i've kinda gotten a habit of rushing through edits as of late. Thanks anyways for the heads-up. The Optimistic One (talk) 05:28, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * Frankly, the decline reason wasn't a very valid one. If all TV season articles "existed" on the episode list pages, there wouldn't be any on WP. If any new editors saw this decline, they wouldn't attempt seasonal articles at all. Shameful. —  Wylie pedia  @ 07:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah i agree with you completely, i scratched my head when i saw what the reason was for not publishing the article. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)


 * It's because the mainspace article was tried and redirected in 2016. So, technically the decline was correct, just pointed to the wrong article. —  Wylie pedia  @ 14:17, 15 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah i seen that, but my draft lists a lot more than just episodes. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Andrei Ivanovich Stepanov
Hi The Optimistic One! Hope you're having a good day! So, I saw that you edited this article and removed categories that said that this person is "living". Please be aware that even removing categories like this and implying that someone is no longer living must be accompanied by a reliable source that is secondary and completely independent of the article subject. It's a serious BLP violation otherwise. Just wanted to give you a friendly note and let you know :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:09, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Oshwah! Sadly, Andrei Ivanovich Stepanov has passed away and his death is listed in the article; Deaths in 2018. The Optimistic One (talk) 01:26, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Someone just provided a source, so no worries. Thanks :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Stranger Things (season 1)
Please do not split articles disruptively and incorrectly, and make sure you follow the correct procedure. You did not attribute any of the split, which is required by Wikipedia policy WP:COPY that comes with legal considerations, and you deleted only the episode table, not transcluding it or moving any of the season-specific content from the parent article. This resulted in duplicate information across both articles. Furthermore, Draft:Stranger Things (season 1) already exists, so creating an article in the mainspace as a revert without checking for the existing article in the draftspace can be seen as disruptive and in poor editing form.

Yes, we know you like season articles, but you need to go about doing it properly and not leaving a mess for other editors to clean up. Please either split articles correctly with attribution and moving the content correctly, or leave it to a more experience editor. --  Alex TW 04:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Same goes for Chapter One: The Vanishing of Will Byers. The AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapter One: The Vanishing of Will Byers was closed as Merge when it was ten times the size that it currently is. --  Alex TW 07:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Just a heads up, I wasn't finished removing content from the parent article, I grew tired and decided to go asleep. But did you noticed that the season article has some useful information on it, that's why I removed the redirect and I improved parts of it as well, give me the benefit of the doubt here Alex. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been ten hours since you last edited Wikipedia. You can't take that long to remove the content - just like any other editor does, you need to have the split ready. You can't just leave a job half-done because you wanted to sleep. Either do the full move before you sleep, or leave it as-is and do it when you wake up. --  Alex TW 14:38, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Here we go again, another lecture from AlexTheWise. The Optimistic One (talk) 19:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ooh, I do like that nickname, thanks! Only helping out editors who haven't read the correct policies, and think they own the article. (I mean, you must, did you expect no-one else to edit it while you were sleeping?) --  Alex TW 02:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I was very close to falling asleep and whatever. Every time you nominated an article for deletion that I created (e.g Chuck McGill) or when you declined the article submissions that I made for the seasons of BCS, you were supposed to notify me on my talk like every other Wikipedian that did what you did. Poor form AlexTheWhinger. The Optimistic One (talk) 03:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And what policy dictates that? Or did you want me to? --  Alex TW 03:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't you think that the author of an article should get notified if the article they created is nominated for deletion? The Optimistic One (talk) 03:23, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) What policy dictates that? 2) What article was deleted? (Note: deleted, not "moved to draft"). --  Alex TW 03:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you read properly? I said 'nominated an article for deletion that I created (e.g Chuck McGill)' I SAID NOMINATE! The Optimistic One (talk) 03:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You didn't create the article itself. KeineMelon did, and the automatic notification doesn't take into account redirects or filling an article out. So again: What policy dictates that I must notify you? --  Alex TW 04:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh and btw, you were mentioned on Drmargi's talk page and she didn't notify you. Go see it if i were you because she violated WP:Notification by not mentioning you and WP:Civility for the way she handled it. The Optimistic One (talk) 03:41, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Leave me out of your squabble and your efforts to play civility police, Thin-skinned One. Your command of basic policy (not to mention indentation) leaves a lot to be desired; there's a whale of a difference between beginning a discussion of an editor (which does require notification) and an off-handed mention (which does not). We'll leave your going command issues where civility is concerned and your false accusations for another day. You and Alex have fun without bringing me into your drama. -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  04:07, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * WP:NOTIFY is an essay, not a policy. Her talk page is on my watchlist, so I've already seen it. --  Alex TW 04:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Seriously, you and Alex should get a room. The Optimistic One (talk) 04:16, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Pass. You comment on her lack of civility then do exactly the same? Practice what you preach, kiddo. --  Alex TW 04:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm 18! The Optimistic One (talk) 04:23, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * At least i didn't silence her right to freedom of speech by shutting down our conversation. Talk about being ignorant! The Optimistic One (talk) 04:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "freedom of speech": "the power or right to express one's opinions without censorship, restraint, or legal penalty". Not related, try again. Practice what you preach, kiddo. --  Alex TW 04:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah! Nice try Alex. She censored my conversation with her after i mentioned her outburst a few months back. The Optimistic One (talk) 04:38, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers." She's not a public authority. It's also her talk page, so she can dictate it how she likes. You could close this discussion here and now, and that would be acceptable because it's your talk page, and not a infringement upon my "freedom of speech". --  Alex TW 04:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * No! What she did was borderline uncivil, making me look like an idiot and she removed my right to freedom of speech, doesn't matter what your definition of it means. She censored the conversation. She has a PhD, but it's certainly not for having manners. The Optimistic One (talk) 04:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Then report it to ANI if you feel there's a violations of your rights. Posting here isn't gonna do anything. --  Alex TW 04:52, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * As the decliner of the draft, you may be interested in seeing this, the deliberately creation of the article after the draft declining. --  Alex TW 03:35, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

User page
I only just realized you copied a lot more than the table. "The Optimistic One. Not much to say. Eighteen year old Irish guy who's a serious avid TV series watcher, and more addicted to Sci-Fi." "Cancellations and conclusions, wanting more..." You really did take the whole lot, didn't you? --  Alex TW 00:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." The Optimistic One (talk) 00:48, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Plagiarism will get you expelled". --  Alex TW 00:54, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Wikipedia is not an educational institution" – The Optimistic One. The Optimistic One (talk) 00:56, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * True, it's a place anywhere can edit. Where they can add or take away content. --  Alex TW 00:58, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Anyone*. The Optimistic One (talk) 01:00, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Good job, kiddo. --  Alex TW 01:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Why did you remove this?; "Started editing articles on Wikipedia in 2014 under various IP addresses (I think, it's hard to tell time on the internet), but I didn't do anything significantly important on Wikipedia until July 2016 when I started editing Wikipedia with this account." The Optimistic One (talk) 01:08, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

MOS:US
Hi. I saw your claim that "MOS:US should not be used in American English articles." I also saw you repeating this claim at AN/I. Could you please read the MoS guidance and verify what it actually says before making any more claims like this? Thanks a lot. You'll appreciate situations like this are difficult enough without having somebody making claims like these. --John (talk) 00:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * It's true. I read it before messaging Alex. MOS:US clearly states; retain U.S. in American or Canadian English articles in which it is already established, unless there is a good reason to change it. The Optimistic One (talk) 02:43, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * What does the next sentence say? --John (talk) 08:19, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Because use of periods for abbreviations and acronyms should be consistent within any given article, use US in an article with other country abbreviations, and especially avoid constructions like the U.S. and the UK. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:11, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

You do know you can get a bot or approval for AWB to revert my edits, right? That is, instead of spamming my notifications and WP:HOUNDing my contributions. Thank you. --  Alex TW 13:21, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Excuse me! I only reverted your edits on TV shows that I watch. And it's not very hard to HOUND you when you pretty much spoiled a couple of thousand pages. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. That makes more sense. Apologies for that. Your opinion is duly noted. Just a suggestion for your consideration. Thank you. --  Alex TW 13:34, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

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BCS 4
This was released today. . Should be useful for sourcing the article, and adds a little. -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  18:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll get on to it soon. The Optimistic One (talk) 20:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Great. The article should begin to take shape now we're six weeks out from the premiere, and there's increasing press.  I made a revision, but I think I need to go back over it to remove some redundancy when I have a bit more time.  ---- Dr. Margi   ✉  21:19, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. The article is in a pretty good shape and will inevitably get better as the weeks go by and thanks for your helpful contributions to the draft, much appreciated! Let's see. The sentence currently reads "This season of Better Call Saul will introduce Lalo, a mysterious character mentioned, but not seen on Breaking Bad, increasing the overlap between the two series". Maybe we should remove the overlapping part and just have; "This season of Better Call Saul is set to introduce a new character; Lalo, a mysterious character mentioned on Breaking Bad (but not seen). Let me know what you think. Thanks.  The Optimistic One (talk) 21:42, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: Now, there's another AFC submission on the draft that i have placed. The draft, in my opinion, is solid enough to exist as an article. Let me know what you think. Again, thanks for your help with this draft. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Can I give you some friendly (genuinely) advice? Don't rush to AFC again. One of the biggest pieces of feedback you got at the last AFC was to hold off on submitting again until the fourth season began. I may have been one of those, or just agreed (I need to reread), but it's good advice. There will be a LOT of press, not all of it accurate, in the next few weeks. While I agree the article is improving, but the difference between an article that's developing and one that's ready to go can have a lot to do with what we learn from the first episode or two. Can I encourage you to hold of submitting it until after at least the season premiere? -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  00:52, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ The Optimistic One (talk) 02:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ducky. Then when it's ready to roll in early August, just take it into main space; don't bother with another review.  That's optional.  But this way, you have a bit more control to refine it as the last pieces go into the pre-season article, and you can move it in the best possible shape.  -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  06:39, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh! I nearly forgot to tell you this; BCS airs in Ireland a day after it's US release. So i won't be able to edit the draft/page until a day after each episode airs to avoid spoilers. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I'd probably have forgotten that!  -- -- Dr. Margi   ✉  04:49, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Literary present tense
I just reverted a couple of your edits that should remain in what's called literary present tense. I have to dash now, but will explain later. -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  21:49, 11 July 2018 (UTC) Later... Literary present tense is how we refer to characters and portrayals of characters. Like literary characters, film and television characters are always out there rather than being time-specific like our own lives, so we use present tense. So we say Michael McKeon plays (or the more pretentious portrays) Chuck McGill because we can still see him do so. -- -- Dr. Margi  ✉  02:44, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh! I understand. Got a little mixed up with the actor and the character as Michael McKean's article states that he portrayed Chuck McGill. My bad. Thanks anyways for the helpful advice. The Optimistic One (talk) 04:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

 * Don't worry, I love the yellow as well. Couldn't have done it without you and Drovethrughosts. Go raibh míle maith agat! The Optimistic One (talk) 19:01, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Good job, T.O.O. I don't follow the pages anymore (culled half of my watchlist last week), but glad to see that it's gone from moving that first-season page to the draft space to the result of four good articles. Enjoy the premiere later today! --  Alex TW 12:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Alex! A lot has happened since last February, and you played a big part in it as well so for that I say thank you. Btw I can't watch BCS until the morning after it's US release, not sure what time it airs Down Unda' though. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

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Please use edit summaries and preview your edits
Hi there. I've posted about this before, but I have to do it again after seeing your recent edits to The Walking Dead (season 9). You made over 30 (!!!) edits in a row all without an edit summary (except the last one). I didn't look at every single edit, but it appears all you did was add some images. I'm sorry, but there's no reason this couldn't of been accomplished in one edit. I'm not saying this in an angry manner, so please try to not take offense. I'm simply reminding you so you can try to stop this type of (bad) editing habits. I can also happily teach you other good editing techniques as well. Thanks! Drovethrughosts (talk) 18:33, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Nearly all them edits were the same; adding pictures and names of cast members and their respective characters. I couldn't add all of them at once because I didn't know how many would fit, so I added all of them individually. The last summary should have explained everything for you. I'm not offended, I understand that reading through all of them would be quite the ordeal for you. Don't worry, no harsh feelings. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:17, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * That's why you should preview your edits before publishing them, because you'll see how it'll look and you would know exactly how many images would fit. It's easier, a good editing habit and would save you tons of times. Realistically, it shouldn't take 30+ edits and 45 minutes to add an image stack of a couple of pictures. That should be a 5-minute job. Again, sorry for busting your chops and please don't hesitate to ask for me for help if you need it! Have a good day, man! :) Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:26, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The first five edits were unrelated to images and were done quite some time before the others. So it wasn't quite the 45 minutes. I also edited other pages inbetween the other edits. Thanks for the advice. Enjoy your day! The Optimistic One (talk) 22:35, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Wish
Hello. Help expansion article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. 125.214.49.215 (talk) 07:48, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you need help with? The Optimistic One (talk) 07:55, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Reverts
It's sweet that you're finding my edits to revert, but make sure it's not disruptive by reverting the wrong one. (and it was MOS:CURLY) --  Alex TW 06:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Whatever! I gotta job to finish. What's WP:CURLY btw? The Optimistic One (talk) 06:18, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * "Whatever", the best attitude on Wikipedia when being disruptive. I like it. Linked the right guideline, maybe chuck a look at the (wrong) edit that you reverted. --  Alex TW 06:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Deliberately spamming my notifications, and making me unable to find my previous notifications such as pings, instead of editing is considered disruptive; I'll see if I can find some higher opinions on it. Cheers. --  Alex TW 06:27, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Those edits had to be reverted, I have a job to do just like every other Wikipedian, and part of that job is reverting disruptive edits. The Optimistic One (talk) 06:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Deliberately spamming my notifications [...] instead of editing. Reverting edits that have long been discussed by being disruptive in turn? Two wrongs don't make a right, something like that. Anyways. It's no hassle, I'll just link the discussion to someone higher up, get a second eye. :) Cheers. --  Alex TW 06:33, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There was like 15 reverts, didn't want to waste time scrolling through sections. The Optimistic One (talk) 06:36, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * and making me unable to find my previous notifications such as pings. You didn't want to waste time, so you wanted to waste other's time. I've started writing up just a general question to ask, it's all good. --  Alex TW 06:40, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Go ahead! Oh, and go raibh maith agat as na cinnirí suas. The Optimistic One (talk) 06:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Question
Hi, TOO - I was wondering why you removed this redirect and restored the article? Is there something special about that particular episode that I’m not seeing? Atsme ✍🏻📧 05:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Hey there! Yes I did do that. I've also done it along with every episode preceding it. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:13, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I was aware that it was you SMirC-wink.svg, but my question is why? The reason I'm asking is that the cited sources do not satisfy the requirements for WP:Notability, which is further explained in Television episodes.  WP is not a directory or TV guide, so unless the episode stands out for a particular reason and is covered by multiple independent RS that satisfy notability, they are unlikely to remain as standalone articles and should be redirected to the main series page or the series list.  I was hoping you could find the sources to meet the requirements. Atsme ✍🏻📧 15:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll try my best to improve it in the next couple of days. The Optimistic One (talk) 18:21, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
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Read Reverting and Revert only when necessary. The Wikipedia edit warring policy forbids repetitive reverting. --  Alex TW'' 04:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Is that a threat!? The Optimistic One (talk) 04:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Is what a threat? --  Alex TW 04:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you threatening to block me? Btw, they're all reverts on actual unconstructive edits. The Optimistic One (talk) 04:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Technically, you did vandalise them articles. Edits that do not contribute to edit warring are generally considered to be exceptions. [...] These include reverts of obvious vandalism, reverts of banned users, and removal of potentially libelous text. The Optimistic One (talk) 04:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't say that I was going to block you. Also, read Vandalism: On Wikipedia, vandalism has a very specific meaning: editing (or other behavior). Also see WP:NOTVANDALISM. I'm writing up the ANI thread as above now; I'll notify you when done. --  Alex TW 05:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Go ahead! Oh, and go raibh maith agat as na cinnirí suas. The Optimistic One (talk) 05:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. That's a threat! The Optimistic One (talk) 05:13, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks...
... for expanding so many Fear the Walking Dead redirects into stubs. Keep up the great work! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:47, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Will do. The Optimistic One (talk) 20:28, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

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Fear TWD Characters
We will have to start with maybe Travis, Chris, Ofelia, and maybe Luciana! After Alicia and Daniel are finished! Matt Campbell (talk) 05:12, 28 September 2018 (UTC)User:Matt CampbellMatt Campbell (talk) 05:12, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Great! We'll start with Travis and Chris first. The Optimistic One (talk) 05:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Just created drafts for Travis and Chris. Best of luck! The Optimistic One (talk) 06:42, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Pretty soon we should create drafts for Ofelia, Luciana, Troy, Jake, Althea, John, and June. After that I think we should be good. Matt Campbell (talk) 14:44, 5 October 2018 (UTC) Make sure you are aware of MOS:TVCAST: Remember to follow the notability guidelines when creating a cast list: not every fictional character ever created deserves to be listed and even fewer will deserve an individual article. --  Alex TW 14:48, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

I was already aware of that! You don't need to keep reminding me this! Matt Campbell (talk) 15:14, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Seems I do, if you're still creating them. Why can these articles not just be included at a List of Fear the Walking Dead characters article? --  Alex TW 15:20, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure about Althea, John and June. They were just introduced at the start of the last season and still have time to develop. Can you could find some individual sources about them? The Optimistic One (talk) 20:14, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Just created drafts for Ofelia and Luciana. Best of luck! The Optimistic One (talk) 12:25, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Copy-paste moves
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Hi, TOO. This isn't a warning at all, this is just a standard template that explains it a lot better than I could, with some extra by me. When moving a draft to the mainspace, it is greatly preferred to be moved via Wikipedia's Move function, not by copy-and-paste (unless you attribute it in the edit summary). For example, at Travis Manawa. The copy-paste didn't show any of Matt Campbell's edits in the history, that contributed towards the draft, and thus didn't attribute him at all. Now, after swapping the articles and their histories, it does. Hope that clears up my recent restoring/swaps of the article. --  Alex TW'' 08:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I see you are still not adding the required attribution, as required under the terms of the CC-by-SA license. Please have a look at as an example of how it is done. Please leave a message on my talk page if you still don't understand what to do or why we have to do it. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Please don't copy plot summaries from copyrighted sites...
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 * It's on the season article. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:03, 2 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I wrote that summary myself, along with pretty much all the episodes for the season article, so no it wasn't copied from somewhere else. I added the summary on May 3, and that website posted their podcast along with the summary on May 9; the summary on their website even includes the wikilink I have in my summary. This is just a case of websites copying from Wikipedia, which is fairly common. I am reinstating the summary. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:11, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. A similar thing happened when I submitted a draft review for a season of Better Call Saul and it was rejected because it apparently copied information from another website. It turned out that the website copied Wikipedia. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:23, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that - I do check for circular copyvio, but in this case didn't realize that the summary was already on the season article and could thus have been copied earlier. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:40, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

The Optimistic One: What you need to do is start adding the attribution (as required by Wikipedia's license). Then people can readily track where the material came from, and you will reduce or eliminate these false positive warnings about copyright issues. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:18, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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Short description for episodes
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Emilia Clarke
Really, that edit additional about dating Seth seems WP:GOSSIP, WP:TABLOID. Govvy (talk) 22:15, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's from a reliable source and Emilia has confirmed that she did date Seth herself, I didn't write the sentence, it was removed from her own wiki. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:32, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * okay, I just didn't think it was that important or encyclopaedic for wiki. Govvy (talk) 22:33, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * If there's a reliable source to prove stuff like that, it's worth staying. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:39, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Seth's very own wiki has the same information about their relationship. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:42, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * heh, I am not a big fan of Seth MacFarlane, I don't look at his page or have it on my watchlist, I've got Emilia Clarke on because I love Game of Thrones. It's not about the sources for me, it's just I didn't think it was that notable. Govvy (talk) 22:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * See WP:RS: Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). If no reliable sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

And you could have a reliable source talk about a celeb dropping her change on the side of the round. You don't need to note everything! Govvy (talk) 22:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Just want to clarify things. The Optimistic One (talk) 23:02, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a "who's dated who" blog. If the relationship was significant and covered in reliable sources then it should likely be included. Dating for six months then breaking up is not significant. The E Online website quotes "a source" for the duration of the relationship, which is typical tabloid garbage and does not meet WP:RS. I'm with on this one.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:04, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

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