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Contributions Operation Storm
Why mine contribution from yesterday was deleted? Things like: main reason for operation storm was that third of Croatia teritory was unther occupation of Serbian JNA forces? (penkala)


 * You have to understand there are some rules in editing that must be respected. First of all, the Operation Storm article is very 'hot' topic with a lot of people who argue before reaching a compromise and putting something on - before making large changes at such articles, go to the discussion page. Secondly, there is this thing called the NPOV (neutral point of view) which must be respected and, sadly, the edits you made are not in line with that. Thirdly, the additions you made had very bad grammer - sorry.


 * And finally, all sensitve subjects like this are best backed by info, which is why almost every important sentance in the article has that small number next to it - it's the link to a source for the sentance. All contribution is welcome, of course, but you must respect these few ground rules and there will be no problem, otherwise people might see your edits as vandalism.


 * Also, when commenting on talk pages like this, don't just edit anything, but press the "+" button on the top of the page (it opens a new title) where you can write and also always sign your posts by typing "~" four times The Spanish Inquisitor 13:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

(penkala): OK But it is a fact- Main cose for Operation Storm was that third of Coatian territory under Serbian JNA ocupation and that is a fact. How more neutral can you get? If you like I'll add numbers.

I think it is bad¸ and not neutral that Laughing man edits things about Croatia because he is clearly Serbian as can be seen from his page.


 * I know, and it says so on the article, just neutrally. Saying "Serbia attacked Croatia" is not neutral, but saying (for example) "40.000 Serb troops moved into Croatia" is (of course while providing link for such a claim). Every such sourced statement (either from internet or books) is welcome, as long as you add the source. If you have such, I'll help you add them, just ask.


 * Regardless of anyones nationality here, people who edit Wikipedia try to remain neutral and Laughing man is no exception. Anyone who edits needs to try to be objective and if you present facts and sources to back up your statements - he can't remove them.


 * Again, to sign your name and time of posting, just type "  " without the space.
 * The Spanish Inquisitor 14:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

White Eagles
Thank you for your edit to White Eagles (paramilitary). When you provide content ii is a good idea to provide the reference, in this case for their involvement in the Voćin massacre. Neither of the two sources for the Voćin massacre article, http://www.un.org/icty/cases-e/cis/milosevic/cis-060330.pdf or http://www.un.org/icty/cases-e/cis/seselj/cis-seselj.pdf mention the White Eagles, either by that name or by the name Beli Orlovi. I am not doubting their involvement, we just need to provide a reliable published source, especially since this is a sensitive area. I have had good luck with finding information in the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. However, that is a primary source, and secondary sources like the ones above are preferred. For example, the secondary source Blaskovich, Jerry (1 November 2002) "The Ghastly Slaughter of Vocin Revisited:Lest We Forget" The New Generation Hrvatski Vjesnik--English supplement could be considered as biased, but together with the primary source of the October 2002 testimony of the former police chief of the Croatian town of Slatina, Djuro Matovina,Testimony of Djuro Matovina, Transcript of 7 October 2002, p. 11049, lines 12-16, it would adequately substantiated, but not proved. In a similar vein the text of the indictment of Slobodan Milosevic from the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia would not be useful, since it is only an allegation and doesn't squarely put the blame on the White Eagles, i.e. from the words of the indictment the massacre could have been entirely the work of "Seselj's men" (Not that I personally believe that). I have gone ahead and added the references on your behalf. If you have better ones, please do add them. --Bejnar 18:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, my primary source was Blaskovich's book: Anatomy of Deceiet in which he says Croatian soldiers who have retaken the village captured and interrogated a few men who admitted being White Eagles. I just forgot to source it :) If I find another source, I'll add it. The Spanish Inquisitor 06:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Dalmatia
Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Battle of Dalmatia, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the "hook" for the article at Template talk:Did you know where you can improve it if you see fit.  howcheng  {chat} 00:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Chetniks
How about rephrasing for a compromise. For example, it was never the Chetniks' official policy to conduct ethnic cleansing - nor did they wholesomely conduct it (only certain detachments), contrary to the Ustashas for example. --PaxEquilibrium 16:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm welcome for compromises, if you have an idea I'm listening. I've just reverted other deletions because they remove any mention of deaths and the point of the text along the picture is to represent why non-Serbs were/are allergic to that kind of imagery - for the same reason Serbs would be on Ustashe imagery... As for official policy, there are several documents which would claim it was such (Mihajlovic, Djujic documents and orders), but I'm not intrested in pushing such a radical claim without significant sources. My only point is that thousands died. According to Vladimir Zerjavic, Yugoslav historian who documented WW2 casualties, Chetniks killed 18 thousand Croats and 29 thousand Moslems, and that's not an insignificant number. The Spanish Inquisitor 06:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I've got no idea, over here I'm just trying to stop yer edit war. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 14:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

TSI, sorry about not explaining myself. I only got halfway in my edit before Wikipedia froze. Pls see the Talk:Chetniks page for my full reply and suggestion. Sincerely Osli73 13:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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Why did you put cn-tags after the term "serbian genocide"? Are you denying that Serbs were victims of genocide during WW2? Paulcicero 23:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm denying the use of the word "genocide". As you know, Wikipedia has rules such as WP:RS, WP:ATT and WP:POV which require a use of a neutral source for such a strong accusation. Considering that no court of law ever declared it as genocide (unlike, for example, the Holocaust and Srebrenica), it is disputed to say the least. Personally, I think it was a genocide, but neither I or you are reliable sources. I did not delete anything, just would like to see a neutral source describing it as such. The Spanish Inquisitor 06:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not called the serbian genocide because it is widely accepted as part of the holocaust, but that does not change the fact that what croats did to serbs was genocide. I think that most historians would agree that it was a genocide. And furhtermore it is not just a legal term, if you read up on the terminology of genocide and then on the goals of the ustasa you will find a strong similarity. Paulcicero 09:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Like I said, I agree that it was genocide. I would be happier if there was a source calling it a such, but I'm not going to dispute it or delete it. The problem is that without proper sources anyone can claim anything was genocide, which is the whole problem. Milosevic's politics during the Yugoslav Wars is also very close to definition of genocide, but so far only Srebrenica is called as such by a neutral source which is why the articles on those wars are not entitled, for example, "Bosnian Genocide". The Spanish Inquisitor 10:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you seriously comparing Milosevic to Pavelic and co. ? Paulcicero 10:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why not? Pavelic clensed about 75% of Serbs on his territory. Martić and Babić clensed 95% Croats from their territory and Karadžić clensed 90% of Bosniaks and Croats from their territory. Is the first genocide just because his territory and population was bigger??? The Spanish Inquisitor 11:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

stalking
"Wikistalking is the act of following another user around in order to harass them." This is considerd stalking by Wikipedia. I am not follwing you to harass you but to correct and try to make your edits npov. Also I am trying to check your sources because you have a tendancy to lie about what your references say. But i encourage you to report me if you think im stalking you. Paulcicero 21:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And by the way which one of my edits were unconstructive?
 * You don't "correct" edits to make them NPOV, you always revert or delete them. As for if you reverts are constructive or not, we'll leave that to the admins to decide if you continue. -The Spanish Inquisitor 06:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You can go ahead and report me because i am going to continue to correct your mistakes and lies. Paulcicero 11:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And which "lies" are that? Also, you obviously accept those "lies", since you always give up reverting at the end... You do nothing constructive, just force me to find more sources for every single sentance I add, and that's just so sad. So much for "lies". -The Spanish Inquisitor 13:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And what about jasenovac? Up to 550 000 contradiction? Listen I am not going to discuss further with you, I am going to continue to correct your mistakes and if you want to report me, PLEASE do so! Paulcicero 16:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * My, touchy, aren't we? So its a "lie", not "lies". As for the Jasenovac "lie", if you bothered reading the source to the end, you would have learned where I got the figure from. While you were self-obsessed with the number of Serbs killed there, I actually read the source to the end and learned it mentions another 50,000 Jews. So, basic mathematics: 500,000 + 50,000 = 550,000. Get it? Probbably not. -The Spanish Inquisitor 06:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * As for reporting you, we'll see... If you continue to remove sourced statements without any just cause, everyone will see it as vandalism. Then I'll report you. -The Spanish Inquisitor 06:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

HOS
As the main editor of Croatian Defence Forces article, you should add sources or I (or someone else) will delete everything and leave only the beginning part as the text is unsourced and obvious POV -- TheFE ARgod  (Ч) 22:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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assistance with article Bosnian Mujahideen
Hi, I'm having a problem with the editor The Dragon of Bosnia who has repeatedly deleted an article which I edit called Bosnian Mujahideen (see edit history here ). He has also deleted links to the article on other articles. He seems to be basing his deletion of the article on two sets of arguments: In the interest of avoiding an edit war I would like some assistance from you as an adminstrator, either in censoring user:Dragon of Bosnia or recommending or initiating an arbitration process. Regards Osli73 (talk) 00:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) that the term Bosnian Mujahideen does not exist. In fact the term is used by published (research and books) experts.. I admit though that there are other terms often used, such as El Mujahid, El Mujaheed or just Mujahideen (spelled in various forms).
 * 2) claims the article is based on "false info/original research" or "propaganda attempt or original research if you wish, based on unverified sources per WP:RS". As you will see from the references used in the article it is quite thoroughly sourced from what must be judged to be neutral and/or reliable sources.
 * 3) states that "there is already particular article" This refers to an article called 7th Muslim Brigade, which The Dragon of Bosnia is an editor of. Not only do I find this article to be blatantly POV and lacking in verifiable sources it also does not cover the Bosnian Mujahideen.

Greater Slovenia
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Tepić
Sve sto je izneseno u u Tepicevom clanku je istina... Nije vazno sto sam ja Srbin a sto si ti Hrvat, jednostavno to je istina... Ne glupiraj se, znas i sam da ne mogu da nadjem nista o Milanu Tepicu iz izvora koji nisu srpski ili hrvatski.. Postuj svakog heroja, nebitno koje je nacionalnosti... Milan Tepic je ucinio herojsko delo i zasluzuje clanak na vikipediji. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Damjanoviczarko (talk • contribs) 13:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Tepić pobio 30.000 ljudi... ajde ne lupetaj... Što se Ratka tiče, da, mislim da je heroj! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Damjanoviczarko (talk • contribs) 08:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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