User talk:The Utahraptor/Archive 1

Userbox
Can somebody please explain to me how to create a userbox please? Thank you! --The Utahraptor (talk) 23:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured it out. --The Utahraptor (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Dark Angel (Arches National Park), did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted by ClueBot.
 * Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Note that human editors do monitor recent changes to Wikipedia articles, and administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism.
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I'm sorry, I wasn't sure how to totally remove the article. --The Utahraptor (talk) 22:34, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just popped by to say I enjoyed reading Silver Reef, Utah and have categorised it for you. But while I'm here, to answer your previous question, if you are the sole or almost sole author of a page and you want it deleted, just slap on it and its toast. Cheers and happy editing  Ϣere  Spiel  Chequers  15:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I'm glad you enjoyed the article Silver Reef, Utah. And thank you for categorizing my article. --The Utahraptor (talk) 16:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

RE: Infobox
You know that you can remove fields in the infobox template for people where it won't be used right?

Like for Tom Horn:


 * alma_mater =
 * term =
 * predecessor =
 * successor =
 * party =

Etc., can be removed.

> Best O Fortuna (talk) 17:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info! The Utahraptor (talk) 21:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Linheraptor.
Greetings, The Utahraptor! I'm trying to get the article Linheraptor ready for DYK and ITN. I've asked other users to join in, and if you'd be willing to participate, that would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!!! Oh no! It&#39;s not here!!! (talk) 19:55, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do. The Utahraptor (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Oh no! It&#39;s not here!!! (talk) 02:32, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Featured picture candidate
Hi, just came by to tell you that I saw a photo in your image gallery that might stand a chance in the Featured Picture of the day contest. BlackCowboy9 (talk) 14:07, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? Which one? The Utahraptor (talk) 21:00, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The mountain formation in Carbon County. BlackCowboy9 (talk) 23:40, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's already in an article (Mountain), but I think I should get it assessed before I actually make it a candidate. The Utahraptor (talk) 00:18, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I really do think it has a chance of being promoted. BlackCowboy9 (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Attempted archive
I have fixed your archive attempt and placed a archive box at the top of this page (which you are free to remove or change) that includes a link to the archive. --Michael Greiner 22:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The Utahraptor (talk) 22:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Silver Reef article
Offer a cash reward and I would bring it up to GA level providing the sources are available... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 14:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello, I have taken up your Silver Reef challenge posted on the Reward Board. I have completed both phase one (20 constructive edits), and phase two (50 constructive edits). My full copy edit is around 135 edits, not including tags. There were a lot of technical errors, especially spacing issues before references. Also, wikilinks should only be made on the first mention. I have fixed all of these issues. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 09:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Your barnstars have been awarded. Thank you for your hard work! The Utahraptor (talk) 22:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Ulysses S. Grant
This article Ulysses S. Grant needs to be edited. Are you able to edit this article? Thanks. {Cmguy777 (talk) 02:58, 11 April 2010 (UTC)}
 * Yes, I'll do what I can. The Utahraptor (talk) 14:13, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your editing! I suppose the main issue with this article is summary and narration.  Do you have any input or suggestions in those areas? {Cmguy777 (talk) 02:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)}


 * As I was editing the article, I noticed it was long; too long, in my opinion. I feel that the subsection on the assassination of Abraham Lincoln is irrelevant, and should be removed. Also, there are several extremely short paragraphs that either need to be merged with a larger paragraph or omitted entirely. I hope this information helps. The Utahraptor (talk) 01:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit Backlog Elimination Drive
Hi, as a member of the Guild of Copy Editors you're hereby notified of and invited to participate in the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2010. Please help us eliminate the 8,000+ copyedit backlog! Participating editors will receive barnstars and other awards, according to their level of participation. ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 00:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I will be relatively busy that month, but I will try to fit it in my schedule. The Utahraptor (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Help writing an article
As you know I am new to Wikipedia. I want to write an article about the Fielding Garr Ranch on Antelope Island, but I'm not very experienced. Do you think after I start the article you could help? Also do you know anyone who would be willing to help write the article? Thank you. OldWestHistorian (talk) 01:36, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know a couple people who could also lend a helping hand. I'll contact them. If you need help starting your first article, check out these tips on writing your first article. Good luck, and let me know when you've started the article. The Utahraptor  Talk 14:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't write the article anymore. I broke my leg while hiking, plus I was diagnosed with cancer, so I have to rest for the next little while. Do you think you could start the article? I could supply you with a photo if you need one. OldWestHistorian (talk) 17:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll do it when I get the time. Feel better soon. The Utahraptor  Talk 17:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Utah meetup this next weekend
I noticed you just added your name to the Utah Meetup page. There are some of us who are going to get together on Friday evening at the Downtown Radisson in SLC. I'm running a science fiction/fantasy/horror art show, there, so we are going to meet there. You are very welcome to come, too. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 01:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure if I can make it. I'll be busy with the Guild of Copy Editors backlog elimination drive, but I'll see if I can push it back to Saturday and Sunday. The Utahraptor  Talk 02:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm planning on being there Friday from about 5pm until 6 or 7. Hmm, a meeting of two en.wiki bureaucrats. Will that be a first? Useight (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure a meeting of two bureaucrats has already happened in a more popular meeting area (such as New York), but I'm pretty sure it'd be a first for a Utah meet. Now I have to work something out, I wouldn't want to miss this.... The Utahraptor Talk 02:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I went through all the meetups that happened in the US. From what I found, it has happened seven times before: New York and Boston in 2004, Washington DC and Minneapolis in 2005, Tampa Bay in 2006, and New Orleans and San Francisco in 2008, none of which involved bureaucrats who became 'crats after 2004. And all those cities have a greater population than Salt Lake City. Useight (talk) 02:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * So this is a relatively rare occurrence? I have got to fit this into my schedule. The Utahraptor  Talk 02:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * So far, we've only had one other meeting, about a year ago. It's kind of amazing that there are two 'crats in Utah, given the population compared to other places with much higher population. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 05:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * One other Utah meet? So this is the second? Yeah, I'll try to make it. The Utahraptor  Talk 11:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, we had one last year at CONduit. Just go to the art show in Wasatch 3 and ask for Joe. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 17:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Something came up, and I probably won't make it. I'll still try, but consider the possibility of me showing up 30% or less. The Utahraptor  Talk 18:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of housemates section on Big Brother pages
I am merely concurring to User:Active Banana's edits on the Pinoy Big Brother pages. I agree that anything unsourced must be removed from Wikipedia. See this debate (don't be mislead by the title). - 121.1.11.120 (talk) 16:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks like only Active Banana wanted to remove the content. You can't remove the content if only one person wishes to remove it. You must discuss it and reach a consensus before taking action. The Utahraptor  Talk 16:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Wintonian (talk) 20:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Happysailor (Talk) 22:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I do warn vandals. Unless, in my haste to find vandals, I forgot one. The Utahraptor  Talk 22:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I thought you would, you must've just misesd that one - I was on a mission before hitting the sack last night thus the msg :) Happysailor  (Talk) 17:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Friuli
Pleease provide a reason before blanking the page. The historic region is difference with Friuli – Venezia Giulia. Matthew_hk t  c  11:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't blank the page, I redirected it. The Utahraptor  Talk 13:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Please discussed before merge a page. Matthew_hk  t  c  15:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I did. Someone told me to be bold and redirect it. The Utahraptor  Talk 15:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Merging a page should be inform to the respective project and at least discussed by 3 people to comment. That user is a newbie or he just a rule breaker waiting someone catch him and ban account. Matthew_hk  t  c  01:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't know that user. You can't judge someone from one thing they do. Everyone makes mistakes. That user (NielsenGW) has been around for a while, and they are not a rule breaker. I looked at that user's contributions, and didn't find any edits that weren't good faith whatsoever. Scroll to the bottom of this page. NielsenGW's first edit was in August of 2005. They are not, in any way, a noob. And scroll through all those contributions. None of those are contributions that are not good faith edits. So like I said earlier, you can't judge someone from one mistake they make. The Utahraptor  Talk 02:55, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Thanks for your contributions to Silver Reef, Utah... I just fixed the citations / references to conform to Wikipedia Standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silver_Reef,_Utah&action=history

Sorry that it removed your last edit, but I went back and added them again as you can verify at the above link.

Cit helper (talk) 01:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC) Cit helper (talk) 01:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Why did you remove the paragraph about religious tolerance? I didn't remove it in any of my edits. The Utahraptor  Talk 01:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for signing up for the July Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two and a half years, all the way back to the beginning of 2008! We're really going to need all the help we can to get it down to a manageable number. We've ambitiously set a goal of clearing all of 2008 from the backlog this month. In order to do that, we're going to need more participants. Is there anyone that you can invite or ask to participate with you? If so, we're offering an award to the person who brings in the most referrals. Just notify ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! or Diannaa TALK of who your referrals are. Once again, thanks for your support! Diannaa TALK 02:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

My edits to Silver Reef, Utah.
What about this? Just asking. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

 Hello The Utahraptor, Wilhelmina Will has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thank you! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk page deletion
Thanks for the notice; I've deleted the page. I thought that you were trying to hide comments that others had left you, rather than simply trying to clean up your talk page archives. If you need to have misnamed talk page archives deleted in the future, it will help if you simply type or something like that, so that the deleting admin won't become confused. Nyttend (talk) 15:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do, thank you. The Utahraptor  Talk 16:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer permission
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under flagged protection. Flagged protection is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial.

When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.

If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   13:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

This week only: buy one get one free on permissions!
Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:
 * Rollback gives you access to certain tools, including Huggle, some of which can be very powerful, so exercise caution
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Wikipedia:Valued picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958
You voted at Featured picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958. I am informing you of Valued picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: I'm So Confused
Hello The Utahraptor. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of I'm So Confused, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a test page. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, at first I didn't realize it was the name of an album. I just read the title and assumed it was a test page. I'll be more thorough next time I nominate something for speedy deletion. The Utahraptor  Talk 13:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. Thanks for patrolling new articles. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's all part of my job as an RC patroller. The Utahraptor  Talk 16:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Your RfA
 T3h 1337 b0y would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then [ contact T3h 1337 b0y] to accept or decline the nomination. A page for your nomination at Requests for adminship/The Utahraptor. If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

Hi Raptor, let me first say that I agree that you are a fine Wikipedian. I also have to agree though that you need quite a bit more experience before you should be made an admin. This has become, I believe, apparent in the answers on your RfA. For example, the concept of "good hand-bad hand" accounts is that a person simultaneously operates two accounts and uses one for disruption. That wasn't the case in the hypothetical example, Bobby998 came back three months after the block. The one criterion that Bobby998 would strictly speaking violate is circumventing a sanction, i.e. block evasion. However, I would have thrown out such an SPI case either way: If a person makes five vandalistic edits, is blocked, comes back 3 months later and starts making legitimate edits, then what reason is there to block him at all? Blocks are, as they say, preventative, not punitive. The job of an admin isn't to try and find reasons to block accounts or to blindly enforce policies. Policies are means to an end: to build this encyclopedia. If any editor works towards that goal and future disruption isn't immediately apparent, then he should be supported. Kind regards, Amalthea  20:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I take this as a lesson learned. Thank you for teaching me this fine lesson. The Utahraptor  Talk 20:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I have closed your RfA early as unsuccessful. If you would like to keep it open, feel free to revert me; if you would like help with becoming an administrator, I would suggest admin coaching. Regards, {&#123;Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 22:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

RfA toolbox for your RfA
Please opt-in to allow X!'s Edit Counter to provide your detailed editing stats to be viewed by the participants of your RfA. You can opt-in by creating the page User:The Utahraptor/EditCounterOptIn.js with any content (including just a blank page). Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 17:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do. The Utahraptor  Talk 17:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you


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USG Article
Thanks for all your editing on the USG article! Cmguy777 (talk) 14:57, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your continued edits on USG article! Cmguy777 (talk) 21:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Bruktutstyr.no
Hi Utahraptor!

Please note that articles written in a foreign language are specifically exempt from CSD G1. The text of the article was perfectly coherent. If you encounter new articles in a language other than English, consider listing the page at WP:PNT if you are unable to translate it yourself. Regards,  (talk) 13:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for the help. The Utahraptor  Talk 13:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Replied
Seeing as you haven't replied for about 15 minutes, I thought I'd put this here.

14:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

And again...I guess a tb isn't needed. –dffgd 15:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for giving me my first Barnstar. Hopefully it is the first of many--JDDJS (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Backlog Elimination Drive Has Begun
Hello, I just wanted to take a moment and announce that the July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive has started, and will run for a month. Thanks for signing up. There's a special prize for most edits on the first day, in case you've got high ambitions. Enjoy! ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 03:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
But no shit,you still need to grant me those rights even if that,that young user named Brandondorf9999 likes to be an administrator of his wikis in Wikia so why can't i be an administrator of wikipedia,agents are supposed to be the administrator of anything so you have to grant me those rights,Thanks--SRFFGT (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but we need to know we can trust you to use the admin tools. You haven't even contributed much. So give it another 4,000 edits or so and six to eight months, then apply for adminship. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 18:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Forty two  Thanks for all the fish! 00:30, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
 Hello The Utahraptor, S Masters has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Thanks so much for the tip! Been trying to find the solution to this for a while. – S Masters (talk) 01:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

My Secret Page
You found the wrong one. :) Hi 8 7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Dang! I was beginning to think that it was the wrong one....I'll keep looking. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:18, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Still wrong. :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 23:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Dangit! I'll keep looking. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 23:12, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, you've got it now. :) Since you found it, you can use . It uses, so to position it, use with x as the position. Good job! Oh, and I hope your cat will be fine. :)  <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:04, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 00:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Re:Pokemon Black and White
on the 12th July 19:29 pm you reverted my edit of pokemon black and white. I did this because SOMEBODY removed my constructive edit of the page. I'm only getting revenge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.4.248.136 (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Articles aren't a place to "get revenge". Edit constructively, such as adding facts to the article, and don't express your opinion on the article. If it doesn't involve anything rude, express your concern on the article's talk page, not the article itself. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 18:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

By the way...
You missed a spot. A group of trolls from 4chan raided the page. <font face="Segoe Print"><font color=#0040B0>The Thing // <font color=#007080>Talk  // <font color=#00A050>Contribs  18:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my brain is foggy today. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 18:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's alright, I very nearly moved onto the next edit after you beat me until "Ebaumsworld Was Here" caught my eye. <font face="Segoe Print"><font color=#0040B0>The Thing // <font color=#007080>Talk  // <font color=#00A050>Contribs  18:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Re:User page status
So what do I do on the sup-page for the status?  Polymath sj Talk 23:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * First off, to create a status subpage, type "User:Polymathsj/Status" into the search bar. It should say that that subpage does not exist. Create it and add one of five status options: Online, offline, busy, around, or sleep. This will then automatically update the status on your user page. Any more questions? The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 23:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi (again)
Utahraptor- Hello fellow musician and bacon lover! Thanks for your reply. Courcelles will review my request for rollbacker rights? Ready for Terra Nova? Link-| Terra Nova (Vegavairbob (talk) 23:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC))
 * Yes, Courcelles will review your request, and if everything looks good, you will be granted the rollback rights. The Utahraptor  Talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 23:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the timely response! (Vegavairbob (talk) 23:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC))
 * Note that you don't have to type ( ~ ) at the end of your message. Just type ~ to sign your posts. In some places it's shown as "type four tildes ( ~ ) to sign your posts" but that's just to show it. Like saying "type an asterisk (*)". Signing with ( ~ ) looks like this for me: (dffgd &#91;messages·edits&#93; 00:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)) however my normal signature (with timestamp) is at the end of this message. dffgd &#91;messages·edits&#93; 00:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Dffgd, Thanks! Vegavairbob (talk) 00:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! I've seen a lot of newer users not getting the point of the (parentheses) and signing with "(Example (talk) hh:mm, dd Month yyyy (UTC))" instead of "Example (talk) hh:mm, dd Month yyyy (UTC)" and you're actually the first one I've pointed it out to. dffgd &#91;messages·edits&#93; 01:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the user page vandalism reverts
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 * It was revenge for this revert. That article gets crufty/advert-y if left unwatched. --<b style="color:#3773A5;">Cyber</b> cobra (talk) 23:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject American Old West
Okay, I have created Template:WikiProject American Old West, tagged a half-a-dozen core articles, and posted it back on the directory so it will generate some buzz.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright. Is the WikiProject done with development, and have you moved it into its own Wikipedia page yet? If not I'll work on that today. If so I'll work on a quality scale and importance scale. Shouldn't be too hard; I could base it off of the quality and importance scales of already existing WikiProjects. Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 12:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Right now I still have it as an incubator page, that's an easy rename fix. We could use a welcome template and a to-do list before we kickstart. --Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright. How about I work on a to-do list and you work on the welcome template? Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Why are you reverting?
I made comments on the Oprah Winfrey show page stating a ridiculous but reasonable subject that every guest will be in oprah's audience diguised as teenaged mutant ninja turtles and although this is ridiculous it is widely rumored and believed by many. So please put that back up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TFKillerSeal    (talk • contribs)  20:14, 15 July 2010
 * I didn't revert that edit. Consult Tide rolls. They reverted that edit. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 02:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Pardon me but...
So I hear you recently edited Mike Adamle's wikipedia page. I can see why you took out the added part that says his daughter is awesome, which I (emphasis on the I) am, but I don't see why you had to keep my siblings (Brad and Courtney) last names. I'd rather they remain private. I'm sure they would love not to be looked up on Facebook.

Sincerely his concerned daughter, Alexandra Grace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.50.27 (talk) 01:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm using an anti-vandalism tool called Huggle to revert what I see as vandalism. I didn't notice that last names were mentioned on that article. Have they been removed? If not I will remove them. I apologize for the inconvenience. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

My edits
Sorry buddy but I thought it was a good edit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.10.253 (talk) 02:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Adding the town pig as a famous resident is not a constructive edit, especially if you add "woo!!" after it. This is an encyclopedia, not an opinion site. As I said before, make test edits in the sandbox, not some article. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 02:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject American Old West.
Hi Utahraptor, thanks for inviting me to join your new wikiproject! I noticed, however, that it does not seem to have an associated userbox for those who participate. If you'd like, I'll design one! Just let me know! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, you can design a user box. I'd appreciate it if you did. Thanks in advance! The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 23:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okey-doke! BTW... that hidden subpage wouldn't be the art gallery, would it? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, not the art gallery. I made the art gallery a couple weeks after my hidden subpage. Try again. Good luck, and thanks for taking the challenge! The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 23:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Found it! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for everything!!! And now to work on that userbox... Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Let me know when it's done so I can check it out and put it on my user page. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done! Here it is: User:Wilhelmina Will/userbox/Wikiproject American Old West. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 08:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Request for Adminship
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Help: Pls Review My article
Hi Raptor, I know a lot about your experience in Wikipedia, so thought better to ask people like you. Pls have a look at my article on Indian Power sector Regulator, Central Electricity Regulatory Commission which is similar to USA's Federal Energy Regulatory Commission & Ireland's Utility Regulator. Pls review the article & provide your valuable feedback. Waiting for your response.Thanks in advance !!! Raj6644 (talk) 11:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Raptor. I worked a lot on improving article keeping in mind your as well as Chevy's Comments. I did copy editing especially carefully i have merged the objectives & obligations section. Added two more use full sections & many reliable references for more clarity. Worked on WP:MOS as well. I have a doubt. Who will review my article & who will rate my article. After posting it still it has not received any Class. Pls assist me in this regard. Raj6644 (talk) 13:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not a part of any project that has to do with this article, but I think I could take a quick trip to WikiProject India and grab the talk page banner for it. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I smell baking

 * Thanks! It was my pleasure. :) The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Report: American Old West-related articles.
I went through the category: American Old West, and made sure the talkpages of all 89 articles had the banner for this wikiproject included in them. I may not have gotten the precise assessments of their classes and importances correct, though, because I really only know how to identify stubs and starts, (or FAs/GAs, because they have the markers at the top), and I'm not very well-practiced with asserting an article's importance. Usually, though, I based my assessments on those given in any other project banners on the talkpage. At any rate, the major job in that direction is done. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll go through them a second time and make sure the importance is correct. I've spent a long time studying the American Old West, so I can probably judge the importance of articles under that WikiProject's scope pretty well. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

You're too kind
Thanks so much. I hope you like chocolate chip. I did not really expect a barnstar as I skirted around the rules to get to your page. Thank you kindly. It is much appreciated. - Hydroxonium (talk &#124; contribs) 14:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's the last time I hand out a barnstar to a rule bender. But nice bending of the rules. No harm done. :) The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 14:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

MessageDeliveryBot
Hello. I noticed that you've been delivering the backlog elimination drive newsletters by hand, and I was wondering if you would be interested in MessageDeliveryBot. The bot has just been approved for a trial, and would be great if you could have it deliver the next newsletter, for it's trial. If you're interested then feel free to follow the instructions on its user page or leave me a message. Happy editing! - <font color="#21421E" face="Harrington">EdoDodo talk 16:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting, I've responded on your talk page. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Question about undo
It is not clear to me what is going on on the pterosaur page. I had posted the sentence. "If the pteroid is the first metacarpal, then the digit has been lost." It was undone by someone. Was that you? If so why?

(Pterosaurus (talk) 21:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't answer your question sooner, I'm on vacation and have limited Internet access. It appears as if there's an edit war going on between you and a couple other people. I haven't reverted or undone any of your edits. The only edit I made on that page was reverting this vandalism (the edit on the right, not the left). To stop this edit war you should go to the talk page of the article and discuss it there. Don't continue to make your edits if people keep undoing them. You need to solve the problem, not make it worse. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

You are awarded the Barnstar of Integrity

 * That's a nice lookin' barnstar! Thank you very much! :) The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 02:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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Rollback
Look at my contributions, am I on the right track? Where should I re-apply to get rollback after you are satisfied? <font face="Century Gothic" color="#2B65EC" size="2">Solar Rocker|Talk to me! 16:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * (I'm a stalker) Ask any admin or go to WP:PERM Tommy!  [ message ] 17:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * AAH HELP STALKER!! <font face="Century Gothic" color="#2B65EC" size="2">Solar Rocker|Talk to me! 18:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm notoriously dangerous around these here parts, arrr avasty maties! Tommy!  [ message ] 21:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, don't mind Tommy. He's a bit loco, if you ask me. Kidding, Tommy, just revenge after you called me pendejo. ;) But on a more serious note, the decision is not up to me. I'm not an administrator, and cannot grant you rollback rights. You can apply again at the same request page after you revert a few vandalism edits with Twinkle. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * correction: not an admin, yet. :) Loco, sí señor.. con razón. Tommy!  [ message ] 21:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Todavía no, pero lo estoy logrando. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Heroic Age Article
Hello,

i was reading your article on the heroic age and i thought of some things that I think may be useful references. Erymanthos was a son of apollo who was the god of the sun(light) which can explain Lekti's relationship with Mehikataka(loosely). Also, the Erymanthian boar which also a labor of hercules are also one of the favored beasts of Artemis(Artemia?). So either way you split one can draw some mutual affection between the two. Every time I head Kervius' name I kept thinking of cerberus the 3-headed dog of the underworld. The capture of this beast was Hercules' last labor which coincides also with the last remaining episodes of the anime. Might they also may have meant Kervious to be an allusion to this creation. just some food for thought. Use it as you will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.145.27 (talk) 03:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not my article. First of all, it's against Wikipedia policy to claim ownership to any article, and second of all I'm not the creator of that article. I just copy edited it; that is, I fixed grammar mistakes and Maunual of Style mistakes. But hey, thanks for the information. I'll put it in when I get the time. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Nice subpage hunt
Finished it. Good riddle ending! –dffgd 22:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And good job! The Utahraptor  Talk 22:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I found it too! Best hunt I've taken! Derild  49  21  ☼  14:09, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I also found it DeinonychusDinosaur999 (talk) 23:30, 27 July 2010

Newsletter
Why am I only listed as getting 60,000+ edits? I finished my last edits that brought my total up above 80,000 at least 10 minutes before the drive ended (midnight). --Slon02 (talk) 00:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the results in the newsletter are from yesterdays results so it is not completly updated. Similarly, I have reach 60,000 words, but only listed for the 40,000 word barnstar. Give the coordinators a bit of time to update the current draft. Derild  49  21  ☼  00:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. I didn't realize that it wasn't finished yet. --Slon02 (talk) 00:47, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I was away at an outing almost all day today, so I wasn't around to update the numbers. In fact I was just going to get to that before I saw the "New Messages" banner, because I figured work had been done today. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 00:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

10K Barnstar

 * Thanks, Diannaa. :) The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

just curious...
what did that vandal write on my userpage? Tommy! [ message ] 15:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * At first I was wondering "Why is Tommy asking me this?" but then I remembered an admin oversighted the edit. The vandal called you a dirty Mexican. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 15:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * what a jackass, so low, on so many wrong levels.. Thanks (Meh for the record, I'm an italian american who was in Spain but that makes me a "dirty" mexican.. racist idiot) Tommy!  [ message ] 15:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up
Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of The Utahraptor at 18:18, 1 August 2010 (UTC).

GOCE newsletter
Great job on the newsletter! I was just wondering if it could be sent out to all members of the GOCE and not just the July Drive participants? The full list of members carrying the GOCE tag on their user pages can be found at Category:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors members. We currently have 281 members. I think them getting the newsletter sends a reminder that the GOCE is alive and kicking, and if they had participated in the last drive, they too, could have received a reward. This will hopefully encourage them to participate in the next drive. If we could have just got half of our members to participate we will have 150. If we got another 50 new participants (half of the last drive), we will have 200 for the next drive. The problem is that we have to strip out those that have already received the newsletter. Do you think this is possible? Thanks. - S Masters (talk) 03:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, as you may have missed up above, the Raptor is taking a Wikibreak due to Trojan horse viruses so he probably won't reply very soon... Just a warning. Derild  49  21  ☼  12:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the Trojans have been taken care of. I installed an anti-virus software that took care of them fairly quickly. In response to SMasters, I think sending the newsletter to the rest of the Guild is a great idea. I'll send in another request to MessageDeliveryBot as soon as I can. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Make sure you exclude the people who you already sent it to (or leave me a note in the notes section and I'll take care of it, since I have the list of people who already got it). - <font color="#21421E" face="Harrington">EdoDodo talk 13:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Thank you! – S Masters (talk) 17:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Should be done. It accidentally got delivered to a few people who had already gotten it (see my talk page), but I removed it. - <font color="#21421E" face="Harrington">EdoDodo talk 22:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we should keep doing this for every drive. Next time, though, I'll be a bit more thorough. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

News from the Guild of Copy Editors
Thanks for the update, but could you please consider sending your routine messages in the form of a collapsible template like all other project newsletters. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 00:55, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought I did. I didn't use the raw markup; I used the newsletter template. Plus it wasn't me that delivered the newsletters; it was a bot, MessageDeliveryBot. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 02:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I thank what he means is make it like this:


 * It could still be done, by adding the two collapse templates to the newsletter, since as you said it was transcluded. - <font color="#21421E" face="Harrington">EdoDodo talk 12:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. That's definitely a possibility. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 12:56, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) ::The normal thing to do is to enclose a newsletter in a collapsible template. I'm only telling you this because I got mercilessly chided by several editors for the same error when I once sent out a first newsletter. If you are not sure how to do it, go here. --Kudpung (talk) 12:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 12:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

For future newsletters/drives I have added you to the list of approved users. This means that if you create a TUSC account and then login using your TUSC information here your requests will be automatically verified, and you will be able to verify other people's requests, and run the bot. - <font color="#21421E" face="Harrington">EdoDodo talk 13:20, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks! The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

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Talkback
<span style="font-family:SnellRoundhand Script;color:RGB(0,71,171)"> Ocean Shores   Formerly TEK (talk • e-mail) 15:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject American Old West
Hello friend. I notice that you recently started a wikiproject on the American Old West. Hey thats great and good luck to you. I'm sure it will be a very helpful project. I also noticed that you've been adding a category tag to several articles. that is is great, but could you please let me know why you think that John Wilkes Booth, Abraham Lincoln, and Fort Sumpter (and a few others not mentioned), somehow classify as old west type articles. Fort Sumpter lies on the Eastern seaboard, and is about as far east as the country can get. Let me know, I'm sure ther is a valuable rationale. Thanks.--Jojhutton (talk) 15:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Abraham Lincoln was a big part of the American Civil War, which is relevant to the American Old West because many Southerners (among them Jesse James) turned to outlawry after the Civil War ended. John Wilkes Booth is relevant because he is the one that assassinated Abraham Lincoln, which caused history to turn. Fort Sumter is on there because, as I've told you, the American Civil War is relevant to the American Old West, and Fort Sumter is considered where the fighting of the war started. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 15:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know, its kind of a stretch. Might as well add Stapler, because they used it in San Francisco in 1866. I think that if you need to put the pieces together like a puzzle, in order to find a conection, it most likely doen't belong in the category.--Jojhutton (talk) 16:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Abraham Lincoln, John Wilkes Booth, and Fort Sumter, unlike the stapler, have a very close connection with the American Old West, therefore, they belong within the scope of the project. Stapler has almost nothing to do with the project, and does not belong in the project. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I get it it, I can see where a connection could be made, but there is a degree of seperation that needs to be connected in order to come to that conclusion. Its like adding Green Bay Packers to this project because someone who watched a football game in wiscosin, went out west and played a game in California. Sure a connection could be made, but by what degree?--Jojhutton (talk) 16:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * How is adding Abraham Lincoln to the project anything like adding Green Bay Packers? The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a connect the dots comparison. Saying that Lincoln was President during the Civil War, and soldiers who fought during the war went west after the war, therefore Lincoln is associated with the west is a dgree of sepeeration by at least 3 degrees. (Lincoln:War:Soldier:Old West). Thats too many dots for a serious connection. Adding Booth, brings us another degree. What I'm saying is that just about any connection could be made to just about any project, but its the degree of seperation that worries me. Perhaps a WP:RFC would help.--Jojhutton (talk) 16:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * But that's not what I said. I said he was relevant to the war, which is relevant to the Old West. So the evaluation would look like this: Lincoln:War:Old West. And why is connecting the dots so bad? As long as we don't go too far, such as adding stapler and Green Bay Packers, I'd think connecting the dots a couple times isn't bad. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Does everything in the American Civil War really fall under the scope of Old West? That seems a little exagerated. According to WikiProject_American_Old_West he would have nothing to do with this. You guys need to reword this better, so that you have a carefully defined scope. Sadads (talk) 16:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop misinterpreting my words. I never said everything in the American Civil War falls under the scope of the American Old West. Abraham Lincoln is also important because he abolished slavery in the South, which was a big part of the beginning of the Old West. The Raptor You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (EC)I infered that you made the conection through the soldiers who fought the war through this statement Abraham Lincoln was a big part of the American Civil War, which is relevant to the American Old West because many Southerners (among them Jesse James) turned to outlawry after the Civil War ended.. But I'm not here to nitpick your wording. I just feel that there is not a close enough connection, although Lincoln could be connected another way, since he was born in what was considered at th etime as the west. But the connections with Booth and other eastern Civil War battles is far too much of a stretch, and is most likely going a bit too far.--Jojhutton (talk) 16:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I seriously don't see how that's going too far. I can see how putting stapler and Green Bay Packers in the project is going too far, but I don't see how putting someone who is a very famous historical figure from the American Old West is going too far. The Raptor You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec)I don't know, I am seeing the same tenuous link between Abe and these two articles and  which I reverted by the way. Sadads (talk) 16:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I was asked to contribute to this discussion by Raptor, and having read it, I'm sorry, but I think Jojhutton is right on this because of matters of degree. A stronger case could and probably should be made for Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt and even Ronald Reagan. I'm having a problem making the tag stick on Old West authors. Jojhutton is not being unkind, and while I feel your Wikistress (there now myself), this is one that's not worth stressing over. Certainly there are dozens if not a hundred Civil War articles we can tag that dovetail perfectly. --Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Coming in late in the day perhaps, but Lincoln is relevant to the Old West for at least one reason - the Homestead Act. He certainly did not originate the act, but he did sign it into law in 1862. Booth may not be relevant, and the James brothers were more of a Missouri/Midwest problem, but Lincoln's signing of the Homestead Act and the decision to raise state volunteer units for the war both directly impacted the Old West. And there's always the transcontinental railroad. Given the role that the railroad played in the settlement of the West, and Lincoln's role with the railroad both before and during the War, I think that link at least is clear. Links to battles are tougher, although one could really stretch the point and count battles participated in by California units (to include those that went east to augment other state units). My take, anyhow.Intothatdarkness (talk) 20:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Regarding your statement about Jesse James, it says on the article about the American Old West that Jesse James and his gang were Old West outlaws. That's why I included them. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 20:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * If any presidents are included, I would definitely back inclusion of Abraham Lincoln, again due to his support of the Homestead Act. The Act had been blocked by the Southerners for quite some time, and its passage during the Civil War opened up land in the west to common people rather than land speculators, arguably forever setting the course of American history.  Ditto the railroad stuff and the James gang as part of the "Old West".   That said, I think that Booth and various Civil War events that occurred west of the Mississippi are a bit outside the scope.  That said, which presidents to include or not is another debate (I'd say yea for Jefferson and TR, nay for Jackson and Reagan).   Montanabw (talk) 21:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The James brothers are often included in discussions of Old West outlaws, but technically they operated mainly in Missouri and Kansas, with some forays elsewhere. They did lay up in both Indian Territory and Texas from time to time. I think they're normally included as archetypes of the "Old West Outlaw," which is fine. It also makes sense when you consider that Kansas was part of the frontier per se, and Missouri wasn't that far removed from frontier status. They illustrate the transition quite well in many ways.Intothatdarkness (talk) 22:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

don't leave
Your skills and energy are needed here. I know what it's like to stress and pop. I had a meltdown about a month ago, and I get pinheads on my talkpage every week. There are a lot of nasty little minds here, and it gets frustrating. The Abe Lincoln guy is not a bad guy, you just disagree is all. If you need a break, come back refreshed. If you need a punching bag, e-mail me.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not leaving for good, don't worry. I'm just taking a break because I'm so stressed, being civil is getting difficult. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 17:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya man, theres no need for stress. Why don't you just shut of the CPU for the rest of the day and take a little time away from all of this. Editing wikipedia is suppose to be a fun hobby. Don't let it get you down. Just relax for the rest of the day and do something else. Go to the park or watch a movie. You might find it enjoyable, and maybe come up with some new ideas for your wikiproject while your at it. In fact, I think I'll join your project and see how I can help. That way we can work on it together. Hows that.--Jojhutton (talk) 17:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks, and sorry for the misunderstanding. I'll take the rest of the day off. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 17:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope this isn't a leaving moment, you wouldn't believe how silly and stressful some arguments get when people get entrenched positions, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels, sigh. By the way how is the weather wherever you edit from? :) If you need anything feel free to ask me. I have a little experience setting up new projects, see WP:WPASK. Sadads (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It isn't, thankfully. I'm just taking the rest of the day off, probably to play guitar and practice boxing. By the way, the weather is mostly cloudy, but warm. So I think I'll also go outside. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 17:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * My weather is colder than Al Gore promised. I feel like an old lady in an 80's TV Ad. "Where's the Sun?".--Jojhutton (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, but I'm not Daven. Were you trying to give it to them? Because they've been going through some Wikistress, too. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 20:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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 * That's alright, everybody makes mistakes. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 14:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thank you! The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 14:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I reverted your edit of Talk:Yosemite National Park
I reverted your revert to Talk:Yosemite National Park. In my opinion the valley played an important part in the history of the area. The California Geological Survey is an important part of the history of California and the 19th century and it worked in what is now the park. – droll  &#91;chat&#93;  21:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright. I've been sort of stressed lately, and it's clouded my mind a bit. Not enough to make me stop editing, but it's been slightly rough. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hang in there. – droll  &#91;chat&#93;  22:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't sweat the discouragement thing, Utah. I've been there too.  Usually about twice a year I seriously wonder if I should pack it in here and retire, but so far have yet to do so.  Time usually resolves most things.  Good luck!   Montanabw (talk) 05:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Feeling any better? My offer of human-punching-bag still holds, my kindergarteners took advantage of that today. Please feel free to write and vent. Offline is okay if you need.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 12:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

GOCE drive
Hi! Noraft has agreed to coordinate the drive again this time (he was in the process of moving, that's why he didn't check in for a few days). You can have my spot on the committee, if you like, as I will be gone from Sept 5 to 13 on a trip. Sorry to hear you have been stressing out. Here is the perfect antidote to stress: one of our recent good article nominees. Regards, -- Diannaa (Talk) 20:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Diannaa. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 16:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

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Perhaps you would like to watch the page? <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   18:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 18:11, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

<span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   13:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There will be no more need for talkbacks to that page; I'm watching it now. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 14:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

GOCE drive
Do you think I should create the subpages for all participants? <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   14:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not yet. That matter is still being discussed. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 14:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

This last weekend
Sorry I wasn't able to make it up to Ogden this last weekend. I hope everything went well. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 05:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That's alright. Things went pretty well. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Spot-checker post
Yes, I'll need a lot of instructions. What is the standard? And how am I to choose articles? (1 out of every 10?) <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   01:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you want my username on the project page and newsletter? <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   01:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * We could put it in the spot check section, and maybe even in the lead section. As for the instructions, see below:


 * From WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September 2010:


 * "We will spot-check some of the completed copyedits for quality control reasons. If a rough consensus finds a copyedit is not of an acceptable standard, the tag will be readded and the reviewer will be assessed a penalty of 1,200 words plus the length of the article reviewed."


 * This means that you must examine a few of the completed copy edits and check to see if its quality is good. Check for errors like you would any article you're copy editing, except, since it's already been copy edited, there shouldn't be many. If you think there are a lot of errors, address the issue at the drive's talk page (I'll make a separate section for it to make it a bit easier). If the rest of us decide the copy edit isn't good, the copy edit tag will be put back and the editor will lose 1,200 points plus the amount of words that article is. After all, we're after quality, not quantity. Below are numbered instructions:


 * Try to spot check at least ten percent of any participant's copy edits.
 * Make sure you spot check the article thoroughly. Try not to miss anything.
 * Nobody is perfect, so obviously there will be instances where there are a couple mistakes. The way I would do it, if there are five or more mistakes that were not corrected, it should be questioned. At ten mistakes or more it should definitely be questioned.
 * Be very careful when spot checking. As stated earlier, nobody is perfect, so there will be a couple mistakes that weren't corrected. Also, it's not your job to re-copy edit the article, unless you wish to. If you do you will get the credit instead of the first participant that copy edited.


 * At this point I've finished my drive-through course, so all that's left is the following: Do you have any questions, concerns, or comments? The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll try my best, although we need someone as backup to my post, in case I'm too busy with school in October. <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   02:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean September? ;) I'll back you up if necessary. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 02:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, so I'm spot-checking as the drive proceeds? <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   03:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. That's when everyone will be copy editing. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 03:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL. I didn't mean that, but I thought that my spot-checking work was to be done after everyone had finished. But, OK, I'll manage. <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   03:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Alright, let me know if you need any more help. The Raptor You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 03:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to barge in but I got a Tb on my page that led me here. Please remember to assume good faith. The vast majority of people will not cheat, although as The Raptor mentioned, we do all make mistakes. If you see just a few you can leave them or even edit it, but I will not penalize anyone for minor misses. Just those that obviously did not bother to do their job and are trying to game the system. And even then, you should warn them and find out first why they did what they did. Cheers and congrats again. - S Masters (talk) 09:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Always remember: quality over quantity. Especially check on those who copy edit quickly. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Rather than making you the new spot checker, I'd prefer to put you in charge of spot checking. There's an important distinction: the former means its your job, and yours alone. The latter makes it your responsibility. If in the next drive we have 50 active editors, and we want to spot check 2 of each editor's copyedits, that's over 3 articles a day if you're doing it by yourself, add to that workload whatever you choose to copyedit yourself during the drive. That's a lot! But if you're in charge of the spot checking department, then you can recruit some help, or set up some guidelines (maybe we want to say for every 20 articles you edit, you should spot-check one, or something. This is just an example and not an actual suggestion). ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 03:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That sounds good. I'll do some myself if I have the time. Now, do I set up a new section on the drive page? <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   01:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * There's already a section at the bottom of the drive page that talks about spot checking, so there's no need for a new section. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thanks! The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

GOCE drive decisions
Hi, we need to close the discussions on the GOCE drive soon and make our final decisions on the mechanics of the drive. In particular, we need to decide on the rollover rules. I have also noticed that the lifetime totals have already been implemented. This might be problematic for us in calculating any rollover credits as this number lumps together the totals of all drives. We need to send the newsletter out by 14 or 15 August (roughly 2 weeks before the next drive starts). Would appreciate your comments and votes (either way), as I want to close off all current discussions and archive them before we start inviting 300+ editors to participate. Cheers. - S Masters (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry I haven't responded sooner, I'm on vacation and have limited Internet access. I'll take a look at everything and see what I can do. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Archiving
The drive talk page's getting pretty long now, so should we archive it before the drive starts? <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores  (Formerly TEK)   22:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It isn't very long yet, plus pretty much all major issues that can be addressed have been addressed, so I would wait a while and see what else happens. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 22:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You could always consider collapsing  some of the longer threads;--Kudpung (talk) 00:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Mr. Collapsible Promoter. That won't do. <span style="color:White;background:RGB(0,71,171)">Ocean  <span style="color:RGB(0,71,171)">Shores 03:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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Newsletters
Hi, thanks for the update, but could you please consider sending the newsletters as collapsible templates like this, in the way that most other projects do? (I have made the suggestion before). Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 00:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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Everything Will be Fine!
Hi Raptor!, Just stepped in to say Don't worry Everything will be fine. My Prayers for you. Have a Great Day. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  09:42, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * We're here for you when you get back!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys! The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:43, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back
Welcome back, I hope the vacation was good. If you need any help, feel free to ask, Sadads (talk) 01:49, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It was a nice vacation. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * It is sad to see you go. Farewell, my friend. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Request for Review and Assessment - National Waterway 4 (India)
Hi Raptor, I have just posted an article titled National Waterways 4. This article is next to my CERC article which you have reviewed & rated. The article is one among the Six National Waterways in India. Whereas articles for 4 other National Waterways are yet to be created. NW-4 is similar to National Waterway 3 (India). Please review the article and provide your valuable feedback as well as rating for the article. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  12:47, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 13:00, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Huge CE Drive Raptor. The article looks very good now. Any suggestions for pushing it to 'B' from 'C' Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  04:19, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Since the copy edit has been taken care of, I would think that the only thing left to do would be to expand a couple sections and add a couple references. If you would like to know what sections I think require expansion, just let me know. The Utahraptor&#39;s sock (talk) 17:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure Raptor! which section requires expansion?. I'm pleased to do that. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  05:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * All subsections within the section entitled "Traffic" require expansion. After that it can be upgraded to B class. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine. I'll try to do that. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  04:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Do as much as you can, then let me know when you're done so I can check it out. The Raptor You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)