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User:A650 road
Did you intend to move this to A650 road or is it still a sandbox or draft page? Peter James (talk) 23:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

err; Sandbox because I am working on it. has it appeared somewhere..? The joy of all things (talk) 23:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

You may have intended User:The joy of all things/A650 road, but it's at User:A650 road, which would belong to the user called "A650 road". There is no user with that name, which puts it at risk of being deleted. Peter James (talk) 23:46, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Roger that - I have changed it to User;The joy of all things. Thanks The joy of all things (talk) 23:57, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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Read's Island
Do you actually know the place? I've been waiting for a couple of years to tell somebody something about the Island? It wont improve the encyclopaedia though. -Roxy the dog™ woof 20:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Can you expand on that? Is the phrase 'Do you actually know the place' derogatory? Also; if you've been waiting to tell someone - tell them what? And at the end, 'it won't improve the encyclopaedia though all seem like very negative statements. It they are not, then I'm sorry. But I'm not finished as of yet and if you have something to share then please do. Have a good day (evening). And yes; I do know the place. The joy of all things (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Okay (apologies again.) The citations were bare and on Wikiproject Yorkshire clean up page as needing URL's. The actual text cannot be found (as it was in a particular print of a magazine.) So how do I get around it? I have the reference for Beeching opening Tinsley Yard in the book Yorkshire Railways - but if I don't put a URL in, it will appear in next weeks clean up page saying it needs one. What's the get around for this?


 * Fully appreciate what you are saying, and I can see your point, so my apologies again. By the way; Alne railway station, you say the issue was not addressed. Not enough citations? I thought that there were enough to cover it, but if you don't, okay - I'll bow to your experience as you have been doing this longer than me and I'm still a newbie. Apologies again and I hope all is well otherwise. The joy of all things (talk) 19:35, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * created the article back in 2008. Maybe he'd do the honours with the references? Mjroots (talk) 21:28, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * OK, I see that there are three entries for Tinsley Marshalling Yard: under the heading "Citation with accessdate and no URL (262)" it says "In-text citations lacking (April 2009), Unsourced statements (February 2013)"; under the heading "In-text citations lacking (187)" it says "... (April 2009), Unsourced statements (February 2013), Citation with accessdate and no URL"; and under the heading "Unsourced statements (1237)" it says "In-text citations lacking (April 2009), ... (February 2013), Citation with accessdate and no URL".
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 * Roger that - I know that it is a pain for you, but I am learning! I have accessed the blue help links before, but I must admit to never having exploited that one. Thank you again. The joy of all things (talk) 00:46, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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