User talk:The sunder king/Archive 1

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 * Welcome to my talk page, I will always listen to your comments and look at the point you are trying to make, however to get me to respond to your comment and not revert it, you must obey the following:
 * Welcome to my talk page, I will always listen to your comments and look at the point you are trying to make, however to get me to respond to your comment and not revert it, you must obey the following:


 * 1) *Always Assume good faith
 * 2) *Never include Personal attacks in your comments
 * 3) * and please stay Civil


 * I will then respond on this page to keep the dicussion linked, however I will also reply on the senders page.

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helpme
Are userboxes of a particular political belief or view allowed? As I have a communist userbox. The sunder king 15:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Sunder King! Please see Userboxes and Userpages for more info about your userspace.  Having a communist userbox is legal, as are most political UBX's.  If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! --  P.B. Pilhet  16:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)



has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. No problem! -- P.B. Pilhet  16:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)!

Hi
Well, I'm from the North East (near Darlington), but I live in Leeds now. Why do you ask? King of the North East 16:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Award
Thanks. Greatly appreciated! Mattythewhite 11:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

helpme
My name is continually being added to a spam report list by this robot see "what links here" yet I haven't spammed nor added any links to articles, why is this happening? The sunder king 20:18, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Which bot and which list?

The Rhymesmith 20:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Spam/COIReports/2007, Jul 14, as by "what links here". The sunder king 21:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I suggest speaking to the bot's owner. -- John Reaves 22:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

mr t
OK mate, I will leave editing remarks. I'm still getting use to all this, sorry. I didn't mean to get mad at you, but I couldn't tell if you were fooling around. That photo is not relevant at all, let's get a proper one of T, yeah? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Featsoffact (talk • contribs).

Nick Bussey
First of all, I don't think he's notable. He's never played in a professional league (e.g. The Football League), so really shouldn't have an article. It's annoying, yes, as I know with York City players articles. But still, some tips would be to simply do some research on the player. Gather some sources to use as references, as you have started to do. Also, you could add an infobox with stats, height, place/date of birth etc. and adding categories. Just a few tips. Hope they help! Mattythewhite 14:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:BIO give the guidline on professional athletes. Although, there is a big duscussion going on at WikiProject Football here about notability of Conference National players, which could be heading somewhre. But I doubt all those Googles hits are all about him though! Mattythewhite 14:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Adoption:
Hello! I see that you were requesting adoption, being an experienced editor, I would like to offer my services. However, you already seem to be fairly experienced yourself. Take a look at my adoption page and tell me what things you don't know yet, otherwise the programme might seem a bit boring. Anyway, just drop me a line on my talk page, and we'll work it out from there. --HAL2008 talk 14:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I accept the adoption offer. The sunder king 16:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm putting replies here to make them easier to read. Anyway, you didn't even have to ask, I'm going through your contributions right now. I try to do daily contribution reviews with my adoptees, and help them out as they go along. --HAL2008 talk 16:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good job. That article, if you wish, can be part of your final task, and we'll turn it from a stub, into a full article. Everything looks good with that one, and I think we can consider task one complete. As long as you understand everything else in the task, we'll continue to the next task. I'll be back later, so cheers.--HAL2008 talk 16:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * IT NEVER ENDS! (until you want it to) Heck, my first point of reference when I'm stuck is my old adopter, Giggy... it also helps that I talk to him on google talk. Speaking of which, if you have a google talk, MSN talk, etc. just e-mail it to me and I'll add you to my buddy list when I get a chance, that way it'll be easier to answer questions sometimes. --HAL2008 talk 13:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, I got it. Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to add you until later tonight (library computer), so when I'm back at my grandma's place, and the internet is hopefully working again, I'll add you then. I'm a bit sad though, since I helped an adoptee excercise their right to vanish (reformed vandal), and they proved to me that WP:AGF doesn't always work... --HAL2008 talk 14:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Step 1:
Granted the fact that you wanted to go over everything, we'll be starting from scratch on this one. Some of it might seem a bit redundant, but you're bound to learn something. The following is a pre-written script that I made... I'm lazy, but everything except for starting the steps isn't scripted, so don't feel too neglected. (just to warn you, it's a bit long)

HELLO! Welcome to Wikipedia! And thank you for joining the adoption program. Whether you are already knee deep in the project, or it's your first day on the job, I'm sure you'll enjoy contributing to the Encyclopedia. If at any time, you are stuck, or need some help you can always contact me on my talk page, just click the "+" (or possibly "leave a comment" if the new update is left. to leave me a new message. During your stay with the adoption program, we're going to be working in steps. Each step has 3 parts, an introduction, which you are reading now, which gives you background information on what we'll be doing. And no, they won't ALL be this long. The step will also consist of an assignment, which you will confirm with me, and once that is confirmed, a short quiz to ensure that you have understood everything in this step and assignment. Don't worry, there is no "failing", or "grade" or anything, you can take as long as you need, and I AM HERE TO HELP! Even if we come across something that stumps me, there are OVER 4 million other editors, and I'm sure they would LOVE to help. Alright, so enough of the formalities, let's get busy! As you know, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, the only difference, is that it's written by everyone, not just a few people. Anyway, all articles, no matter what, are expected to sound like a real encyclopedia, so to speak. That's why Wikipedia has policies and guidelines that you're supposed to follow while you are here. There are a lot of policies, but for right now, you only need to familiarize yourself with the basic ones. Let's get started with Key Policies. You should also browse through The manual of style. Of course, there are many policies on Wikipedia that you can also read, but we're just sticking with the basics for right now, after all, it's more fun to learn by doing, than to learn by just reading. Now, I'm sure you're familiar with the "edit this page" button, and perhaps you've even tried it out a few times before making your account, or even with your account. GREAT! Now, however, we're going to try to make a good constructive edit to an article. We're going to start simple, just to ensure that you understand everything. You'll want to make sure that your edit is contributing, and that any new information is properly sourced. You will also want to make sure you use an edit summary. We now come to your assignment for this step. For more information on editing an article, you should look over How to edit a page. Any experiments you need or want to do should be done on the sandbox.

Assignment:
ALRIGHT! The assignment! This is where you get to stop listening to me talk, and DO STUFF!
 * 1) Find an article, it can be anything really, something that you like, or maybe just hit Random Page and work from there! Once you've found an article that you like, and maybe have a bit of background info in, we'll continue.
 * 2) Now it's time to work with that article. Let's try to do something with it, like fix a typo, or create a new link. You can even put in a new fact, granted you have a source to back it up; or even reference a source that was already there. NOTE: Step 2 goes over referencing sources in detail, but we'll do basic referencing for now
 * 3) If you want to reference a source, it's quite easy actually. You should also use multiple tabs or multiple windows for this, as you'll be going back and forth a lot. After a statement in the article, like (note, the following is totally random, and is NOT real) "The ChickenDome was built in 1989", if you don't see a reference note after it, you can add one. Google it, and find an online source that specifically backs up that claim. Once you have that site up, go back to the Wikipedia page, and put the website URL (like http://www.example.org) in tags, and then go to the bottom of the page. If there is not a "References" or "Sources" (or something like it) section, you can add one by going ==References:== (note, that should go above See also and External links, if the article has it) and put  in that section, if it doesn't already have it. That's it! That's the most basic (and my favorite) way to add a reference to an article!
 * 4) Alright! Now, see that little box near the bottom, it's a rectangle, right below the editing window. You want to write an "Edit Summary" in there, it should even be marked. You just need to give a brief explanation of what you've done. Also, if you fixed a typo, or formatted a link, or something minor like that, you can check the minor edit box. For more information, see Minor Edits. After that, hit "preview" to ensure that everything you edited worked out the way you wanted, and then hit "save changes.
 * 5) Finally, go to the page's history, with the history tab. See that change you just made? It should be there, timestamped with your username next to it. Just click the "last" or "diff" button (it will vary depending on where you are), which will bring up the difference between the edit you just made, and the last one. Copy that URL (ENTIRELY) and then go to my talk page, and click the "+" to leave a new comment, paste the URL in that comment to show me the diff, tell me what you did, and we'll move on to the quiz if you're ready. Remember to sign your post by leaving 4 tildes (~) like so: ~ --HAL2008 talk 16:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

AFD
It has been my experience on Wikipedia that, any time you come across an article that looks odd, or appears to be vandalism, it is helpful to look at the article’s history and also look at the editor’s history of contributions. It is often revealing. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 21:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

It was a bunch of BS
Sorry, there was a link and it had no page. I thought it was for division of labor but is actually a link for the uniformat. Both should have a page in wikipedia being basic to the construction industry. Do you have any suggestions. Granite07 21:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)