User talk:The sunder king/Archive 2

AFD
Seeing as how the AfD just started, you seem to be jumping the gun, quite a bit here. It's not like the AfD is anywhere near WP:SNOW. -Chunky Rice 16:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, but it has multiple issues. It is best to redirect. The sunder king 16:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Why don't we let the article stand as is for the duration of the AfD so that people have a chance to evaluate the article before we change it to a redirect? It's the best way, in my opinion, to arrive at a true consensus. -Chunky Rice 16:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok. The sunder king 16:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

AFD Actions
Hello The sunder king. No decision can be enacted while an AFD is still in progress. People commenting on the AFD will need to see the article in its current state. An administrator like myself will handle any actions necessary once the AFD is over or there is an overwhelming consensus within a short amount of time.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok. The article does have multiple issues though. The sunder king 16:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you change your comments after other people have responded to them, please use the strikethrough, like this, I didn't mean to say that, so that the context of the discussion is clear. -Chunky Rice 17:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

You deleted the comments here, in what I assume was a mistake. I don't really understand the "two votes" edit summary since they aren't even my comments. -Chunky Rice 17:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Helpme
I need to learn more about the criteria for deletion and how to act during AFD's, because users are not assuming good faith on me when I am making mistakes, and I feel they are breaking WP:BITE, so should I stop nominating pages for deletion? The sunder king 12:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:CSD is the criteria for speedy deletion. Other reasons for deletion are listed here. You may also like to have a look at the Deletion Policy. :) -- Stwalkerster  talk 12:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletions:
Hi, sorry I was gone so long. REALLY long flight (about 24 hours w/o sleep travel time total, so now I'm rested up, and ready to help). Anyway, there are 3 types of deletions. If you believe that an article is a great candidate for deletion, and that marking it as so wouldn't be controversial, and is NOT CSD worthy you can WP:PROD it. If you aren't 100% sure, or it would be controversial, etc. then you can WP:AfD it. If it's worthy, you can WP:CSD it. Deletion is covered later in the adoption program, but if you want to do it all now, just drop me a line on my talk. HAL2008 talk 21:51, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

re:The elder scrolls
Um...ok, nice of you to tell me that. I hadn't stated an opinion one way or another. All I did was re-add the fixes that he had done to the main WP:TES page that you had erroneously deleted- honestly, he messed with the whole page over 8 edits, and you "reverted" only half of them, leaving errors and missing FA's/GA's and such. I agree that he was wrong, but only because he redirected them instead of merging them into "characters of" and such articles. The fact that one of them was a GA really doesn't mean anything- Geuiwogbil's actually the guy who got it to GA in the first place (as well as every other GA/FA we have besides Morrowind). He was just being a bit bold. --PresN 00:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Nufc2006
Dude, could you tell me what this edit was about? Mattythewhite 18:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Craig Gordon
Has the transfer actually been completed? The BBC says it will be completed today sometime and the Sunderland site seems to give nothing - all there is is Sky saying it has been completed, with them saying Sky Sports understands. And has he been given the number 1 shirt? Probably will, but there doesn't seem to have been confirmation. But anyway, the article needs more references - the international section is in great need of some verification. Apart from that, its in a decent, stable state. Mattythewhite 14:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've done a little bit of work on Gordon. And Sunderland - I'd imagine they'll survive. Somewhere low mid-table. I think Roy Keane's determination and perfectionism will keep them up. Mattythewhite 14:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Tyne and wear rivalry
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Tyne and wear rivalry, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Tyne and wear rivalry is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Tyne and wear rivalry, please affix the template to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. --Android Mouse Bot 2 05:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Raimond van der Gouw
No problem. Removed player details from his article. Mattythewhite 15:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

RfA
I have chosen to withdraw, but how exactly do I? Mattythewhite 16:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Name change:
Hi, this is a notification that I have applied for a name change to User:HAL from User:HAL2008. A redirect will remain, however I have elected to alert my adoptees of this change. Also, just to make sure, are you ready for task 4? -- HAL2008 HAL? talk 03:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Image-Newcastle United crest.png)
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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot 06:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

question
am I making myself look like an idiot with the deletion criteria? I need to undergo training as a wikipedian, as my adoptee is not even speaking to me!. The sunder king 16:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? I'm talking to you! I just haven't gotten MSN again since I wiped my computer. If you want to go over deletion criteria, we'll start that now: (we'll do task 4 later)
 * Glad to see that someone came to help (they forgot to sign), but I'm curious as to why you're so encouraged to go around deleting articles. Of course there's a great role in Wikipedia of deleting articles, and a lot of articles are created every day and some of them obviously need to be deleted, but as a Wikipedian that leans toward inclussionism, I know that when Wikipedians become obsessed with deletion that start become exclussionists. Try to perhaps diversify your interests in Wikipedia - and I'm not in any way attacking you as an article deletion nominator (this is only my general feedback) - have you perhaps considered being an anti-vandal? Rfwoolf 17:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Task 5: Deletion
Now we get to the unfixable, the articles that have no place on Wikipedia. What Wikipedia is Not covers a lot of that in detail, as does the criteria for deletion page, and several more pages around Wikipedia. Now we start the deletion processes. NOTE: Twinkle can actually do all of this stuff, but we're going to do it manually at the moment, just to get the hang of it. If you want instructions on how to do it automatically, just contact me after this step is complete. Anyway, so we're going to learn about Proposed deletion and Articles for Deletion. A PROD is when you strongly believe that an article fits the deletion criteria, but not the criteria for a speedy deletion (CSDs will be covered in the next task.). A PROD marks the page with prod. If the page sits for 5 days and nobody removes the template (which means they object to the deletion) the page can be deleted. If the page has previously been PRODed, you aren't sure about whether it meets the deletion criteria, or the PROD is removed and you still think the article should be deleted, you must file a Articles for Deletion discussion. An article for deletion is where people have a discussion about whether an article should be deleted or not, and they can also suggest other things, like merging the article, redirect, etc. Today, we're going to participate in a current AfD, and see through another article's PROD or AfD. When PRODing an article, it is considered courteous to leave a PROD notice on the author's page (or whomever has made major edits to the article)
 * 1) First, go to the Articles for Deletion page. Find an article up for deletion, that is still open. Read the nomination and the other comments thoroughly, as well as the article. Decide whether the nomination, or the other comments fit the deletion request. If there is another reason for deletion, feel free to state it in your comment.
 * 2) Once you have made your decision, you're going to vote. Place your comment with a *, followed by your vote bolded (keep, delete, merge, etc.), and then a comment explaining why. Try to avoid saying things like "per nom" unless the nom says exactly what you think. BUT, if you say "per nom" and then include your own spin on it, that's good too! Remember to sign your comment.
 * Now, you're going to find an article that fits the deletion criteria. Once you've found one, check to see if it's been PRODed in the past (with the history). If it hasn't, then you can PROD it if you want. PRODing is easy, just add the template to the page. You should also notify the author, and other major contributors, of the PROD on their talk page using  You might want to watch the page. If someone removes the PROD, you have the option to AfD it, but you do NOT need to tell me if you do that, it's your baby at that point, unless you need some help.
 * 1) If you PROD it, you can leave the diffs on my page at that point, so feel free to do that.
 * 2) You also have the option to AfD it, or you may have to depending on the circumstances. Just follow the instructions on the AfD page. If you need help, contact me. If you AfD a page w/o PRODing a page, link me to the AfD on my talk page, instead of that diff, but still leave the diff for the other AfD that you participated in.-- HAL2008 HAL? talk 17:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Dickson Etuhu
I've fixed the stats - the problem was the 0 tempate was replaced with a 1. Which shouldn't be done! Good luck for the season, Mattythewhite 12:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

my idea
is Template:The adoptee award a good idea. An award for users who have progressed through the adoption process. The sunder king 21:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It is, in principle, a good idea, but there is already a userbox: AdopteeGrad that is used for the same purpose. Nice suggestion, though, and good idea!  A r k y  ¡Hablar! 22:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for welcoming me to the Wikipedia community. I hope to make lasting contributions here once I get a hang of the code and a grasp of the policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poet of the Fall (talk • contribs)

Farrell Heyworth
Hi, you have marked the Farrell Heyworht page as spam. Why have you done this, as the information is factual and not marketing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpmorganuk (talk • contribs).

I am afraid it is spam, because of the way it is written; plus it doesn't satisfy the Notability guidelines, please read The Notability policy.. The sunder king 11:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * One step ahead of you. :) Neil   ム  12:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Excellent. The sunder king 12:11, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sunderking,

I am confused, the article I created was no different to Countrywide plc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpmorganuk (talk • contribs)


 * Which has also been deleted for the same reasons, thanks for spotting it. Neil   ム  12:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

PS
The sunder king, please don't remove comments just because they are unsigned, unless they are obviously vandalising. Use the unsigned template. Neil  ム  12:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok sorry. The sunder king 12:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

reply
Hello The sunder king.

I've responded to you here. Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 21:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply

 * I'm not sure I would say it was wrong; you mentioned only that it was "nonsense", not a "nonsense religion". How could I have known? --  Anonymous Dissident  Talk 09:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh Sorry, just check on google for proof no such thing exsists, and if it does. It obviously isn't notable enough. The sunder king 10:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I admit that that was my failing. I forgot to check the google hits. I guess we both made a litte mistake. Cheers for the SSP report, also. -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 10:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok then very well. The sunder king 10:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it?
Nick Bussey doesn't look like it's up for deletion. But I'll take a look around the AfD page. It could have already been cleared by a closing admin or even WP:SNOWed. Anyway, I'll still consider you at the same step, since I've seen Nick Bussey, and you've done everything that I consider necessary for the first few steps. --HAL talk 17:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, it might not. I don't think it meets the WP:DELETE criteria. I'll contest the AfD if it is nominated. --HAL talk 18:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Helpme
Helpme Are you allowed to show that you have a blog on wikipedia? The sunder king 17:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I sure hope so, 'cause I do. I assume you mean linking to it from your userpage, or something similar -- you shouldn't use Wikipedia to host your blog, certainly, but plenty of people have links to their website from their userpage. Such things are usually only considered problematic if they're somehow disruptive, either because of the nature of the site being linked, or if the user is linking their site(s) to the exclusion of making any other serious contributions to the project. If it's all done in good faith, it's hard to see it becoming a problem. Hope that's a good answer, for you. – Luna Santin  (talk) 17:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Of Roosters And Men
Now that I've seen that, I'm inclined to agree with you. I'd do a block myself but I'm no admin. Man. . . roosters. Chickens. Now I'm hungry. :P -WarthogDemon 21:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone will come along and notice it soon. The sunder king 21:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Raimond van der Gouw
Its been getting my nerves. He's not on the squad! Simple as that. He was on for about five minutes literally, but thats it. As you say, hopefully those adding him will get it. Thanks, Mattythewhite 21:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)