User talk:Thecurran/Archive 2009

Welcome in friend and make yourself comfortable! May everything turn out best for you. I apologize if my word choice seems unfavourable to strangers. Please note the emoticon → :).

Warmest Regards, :)--thecurran Speak your mind my past 10:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

RE:MOSNUM
I am not the best person to discuss the minutiae of the MOS I'm afraid. I locked the page because ti was the subject of an ongoing edit war which itself has ended up at ARBCOM. It seems that your request does not yet have consensus to be added onto the page yet, for a start, User:Tony1 has replied less than positively. I suggest you let the discussion go on for a little bit before outting in an editprotected request which is the standard thing to do if a page is protected and you want to edit it.

On a sidenote, why is this page an archive? I strongly suggest that you have your actual talkpage as the main area for discussion. This would mean you gain from the "new messages" bar at the very least, and it wouldn't be confusing for editors. If you have any questions about any of this, don't hesitate to leave a note on my talkpage. Regards. Woody (talk) 12:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * My reply to the archive question may be found at User talk:Woody/archive15. For the sake of completeness, it is repeated below:
 * This is regarding my redirect to a fresh archive from my talk page. Have you ever tried to look up something you left on somebody's talk page only to find yourself, with a link to an archived subsection, needing to search through dozens of archives? I have and it is a frustrating task that nearly crashes my computer. So I thought, "How can we both maintain an ongoing archive system and ensure that the link people have in their contributions will permanently take them to the right discussion?" If I redirect my talk page to a subdirectory that has my current archive and merely change the re-direct address when the page starts to tell me, "It takes xx bytes to load this page, maybe you should archive....", all links to that page will be to the permanent address. I do lose out on the "New messages" thing, which is unfortunate to me, but I thought I was being more mindful of everyone else. :)--Thecurran (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:WeaverKid
Oh sorry, here's a link to the block log. Weaver was blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Sinofdreams/User:User:YoMaSoFat. The Cool Kat (talk) 12:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also see this User:Barneca/watch/YoMamma6188. What is this about?  Is there another weaver sock?  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 15:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see what it is about, nevermind. yes, weaverkid is bad and has been blocked.  I block his socks on site.  He should just be denied as to not encourage him.  Just ignore the little kid and he'll go away.  Also, is there a reason that your talk page redirects to an archive page?   Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 15:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you both, User:The Cool Kat & User:Chrislk02. Thank you for that confirmation. I really do appreciate it. On the subject of my talk page redirecting to an archive, I usually do not need to be notified in real time when someone writes on my talk page so I don't mind losing the warnings. I love the ability however to have a permanent link to any specific conversation I have participated in. I have spent dozens of hours sifting through user archives and article archives trying to find the point to which users have referred. It is even difficult finding what I wrote when I know the date from My Contributions because many archives are not dated but numbered and many are so large they take forever to load. Now, anyone that talks to me has a permanent link to that convo on their User Contributions page. As soon as i get an edit size warning on my talk page, I can make a new archive. The idea is in its early stages but I hope it catches on. :)--Thecurran (talk) 08:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Me
I am not actually on wikibreak. I am back from a 1/2 year retirement/break, but am not editing as much as I was before that time, which is why I keep the sign. I did not quite understand your last comment, although the phrase did seem vaguely familiar to me. All is well. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:14, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed.  Basketball110  My story/Tell me yours 18:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

List of country subdivisions
Hello Thecurran, do you really think this article is a good idea? You are just getting started, with less than 100 entries in the table, and the article is already about 16,000 bytes long. There are over 3000 first-level administrative divisions in the world, so I don't think this approach is scalable. There is already the Table of administrative divisions by country page, which is the top of the hierarchy of all the per-nation articles on administrative divisions. I don't see a need to duplicate that information in a single list. Perhaps you should reconsider. What problem are you trying to solve? Thanks, — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I do think this article is a good idea. It allows side-by-side comparisons of subdivisions of different countries. Table of administrative divisions by country seems to count the number of subdivisions, without actually listing most of them. It is useful and concise but only a handful of provinces, etc. are on it. I did not create this page but I am trying to make it into a useful list. I think it would be useful to compare the population or size of Ontario to that of Illinois, to expand upon, and to solve the problem of people consistently confusing AU-WA with US-WA, etc.. I think it would be particularly pertinent when applied to the European Union as constituencies that are represented alongside of each other in votes can often be in different countries like in UEFA. I do hope that it is not just a waste of space and I do have good intentions. I would feel disappointed if I had to revert all of it but I would be willing to do so if that is what you and some other admins want. I would not waste your time in an WP:AFD. --Thecurran (talk) 23:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I just sent the Regression resolution to me, my Dad, and Craig.
Wish me luck! :)--Thecurran (talk) 15:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

OR #2
Teriyaki turkey tastes great and kinda like bacon. :)--Thecurran (talk) 23:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

London Customs Convention
Three links or more to non-disambiguation pages - which you've now done, so I've removed the tag. Thanks! Miyagawa (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

ar wikt Afghanistan
Not sure why it wasnt working for you... Seems to work fine for me, try it now: 

Regards --Lord Anubis (talk) 12:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:MOSDAB#Specific_entry_types
Well! Something broke my template, and i've taken the liberty of removing two "%" characters from my previous notice above, so that it doesn't break everything that accumulates on the rest of the page. What i summarized as "long attempt to redress my errors" is now added at the bottom of the same the same section as before; i hope it will help some. --Jerzy•t 08:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou!
I appreciate it. Slac speak up! 02:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of UN list of Non-Self-Governing Territories
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 * The archive is fixed. :)--Thecurran (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

UN list of Non-Self-Governing Territories
No problem. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:42, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

BF-BAL
Hi - just wanted to confirm - do you think this is a needed/likely redirect? Thanks. 7 00:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do. Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 03:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok - may I ask why? I don't see this used as a common name when I search google.  Is this commonly used somewhere specific.  Thanks.   7  03:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It is part of the ISO 3166-2:BF. ISO 3166-2 is the country subdivision extension of ISO 3166, which is used by ccTLDs, the ITU, and the UPU, the international media of modern communication. Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 12:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow - knew there was a good reason - sorry for talking in your archive. Thanks.    7  12:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No stress at all! BTW, I would rather people talk here. That way it is easier for everyone to sift through archives. Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 23:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok - well then since you don't mind - I am wondering, is there any plan within this ISO xxxx project to add categories to these redirect pages? I added Category:Redirects from alternative names and Category:Redirects from abbreviations, but it seems like it might be more appropriate to have new categories to indicate that those pages are ISO codes.  I am just not sure at what level the categories should be created.   7  23:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That is a great idea. Perhaps it would be a better to start such a category now instead of waiting until the thousands are processed.


 * Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 01:24, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

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 * No problems here; I was just deleting my own image. Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 02:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of UN list of Non-Self-Governing Territories
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Speedy deletion nomination of EE-74
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Speedy deletion nomination of Love numbers
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 * Nevermind, redirect OK. Happy editing. ♠ The Ace of Spades  ♣ ♥ ♦   04:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate that. Thank you!

Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 01:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit questioned
This edit looks questionable. I haven't reverted it, but it looks oversimplified and possibly incorrect.

The Commonwealth of Nations article says, "... These aspects to the relationship were eventually formalised by the Statute of Westminster in 1931 (Australia, New Zealand and Newfoundland had to ratify the statute for it to come into effect; which Newfoundland never did and Australia and New Zealand did in 1942 and 1947 respectively). The word British was dropped when the modern Commonwealth of Nations was formed in April 1949, after the London Declaration."

The Australia article says, "Britain's Statute of Westminster 1931 formally ended most of the constitutional links between Australia and the UK. Australia adopted it in 1942, but backdated it to the beginning of World War II to confirm the validity of legislation passed by the Australian Parliament during the war."

The Canada article says, "Canada is also a constitutional monarchy, with The Crown acting as a symbolic or ceremonial executive.[81][82] The Crown consists of Queen Elizabeth II (legal head of state) and her appointed viceroys, the governor general (acting head of state), and provincial lieutenant-governors, who perform most of the monarch's ceremonial roles."

The New Zealand article says, "Queen Elizabeth II is the head of state and is titled Queen of New Zealand under the Royal Titles Act 1974. She is represented by the Governor-General, whom she appoints on the exclusive advice of the Prime Minister. The current Governor-General is Anand Satyanand."

You might want to take a second look at that edit. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing that research to my attention. I was trying to make the caption fit the image, borrowing info from File:Colonization in 1945.png. Please check my re-working.


 * Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 09:43, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

TooCuteForWikipedia
Hi. Well, there *is* such a thing as text that is "non-encyclopedic" or with tone that is "inappropriate for wikipedia". This is is exhaustively explained somewhere among the 1,423,557 pages of the Wikpedia Manual of Style and Policies, but I have long forgotten where exactly. Try searching for "What Wkipedia is not", and good luck. But, basically, Wikipedia must not contain anything vaguely resembling humor. Even when discussing comedy and comical literature, one must use the same tone one would use to describe a dissected frog or the classification of basalt rocks. After all, "original humor" (like the CamelCase cartoon, I'm afraid) can be considered a form of "original research" --- another WikiHeresy. Such things are not allowed in WP, not even on User: pages. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 06:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * To begin with, I agree that the notation I followed too closely resembled WP:OR, so I will leave well enough alone. On the other hand, I disagree with the statements "Wikipedia must not contain anything vaguely resembling humor" & "Such things are not allowed in WP, not even on User: pages". Please do not take offence but the only humorous WP page that specifically addresses humour on WP that I know of to give as evidence is WP:WITCH.  I apologize for not having a more appropriate repertoire of WP:MOS.


 * Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 09:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Trolling and trawling and talk pages
In response to one of my edits, you put a long and interesting comment on my user talk page, which I hope it is ok with you that I have moved to the article talk page with my response--as was suggested on my talk page by yet another editor who saw your comment before I did. With all best wishes for a better Wikipedia resulting from our very slight disagreement, betsythedevine (talk) 14:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you & no worries!Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 04:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, thecurran, your arguments have me "weakly agreeing" with you. I just don't have any arguments "strong enough" to post on the relevant article Talk page.  &mdash;Aladdin Sane (talk) 00:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Flags
No problem. Actually, I was aware of the use but forgot it when placing the national flag, thanks for reminding me MBelgrano (talk) 13:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Flag templates
Please follow the conventions of WikiProject Flag Template when creating new country data templates. The template name must match the value of the  value, and we only have redirect aliases for ISO 3166-1 entries, not for ISO 3166-2. The formatting of country data templates is also important, since automated tools are used to maintain them. Thank you — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:54, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is it ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 and not ISO 3166-1 alpha-2?
 * Why is it ISO 3166-1 and not ISO 3166-2?
 * Would you delete templates without linking to relevant discussion?
 * Would you protect the templates of European countries?
 * Would you delete the templates of developing countries?
 * Would you put an article up for deletion without discussing it on the talk page?
 * Would you speak of flag project conventions without pointing to any resolutions?
 * Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 14:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Flag templates 2.0
Again, please stop creating extraneous flag templates (ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 codes). The consensus (for about four years) is that we use the alpha 3 codes only. The extra "bloat" is not needed. —Andrwsc (talk ·contribs) 22:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Please point me to this WP:CONSENSUS you speak of. I will gladly digest it.


 * Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 22:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
I have blocked you for one hour for disruptive editing. I have asked you to stop creating this type of redirect, according to project consensus, and you will not engage in discussion. You may edit your talk page in the meantime for discussion purposes. And if you object to the placement of this message on this page, well, that's what happens when I click on the "edit talk" button available to me. — Andrwsc (talk ·contribs) 00:56, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * BTW, my block should be over by now.


 * Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 02:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

For more information, you may read User:Hersfold's 2009-12-03T12:35:34 edit summary, (nulling unblock request and removing redirect link), on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thecurran&oldid=329390563 but this link may change. Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran let it off your chest 10:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

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Terry Buck
I'm not sure why you created this page, but I deleted it as an attack page. Bearian (talk) 00:58, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry Bearian, I responded to your edit on User talk:Bearian before I read this. I have also notified Glenfarclas of such on User talk:Glenfarclas, which in retrospect would have been clearer to do on my talk page.

Warmest Regards, :)-- thecurran Let it off your chest the past 09:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Terry Buck
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Wikipedia:Admin_coaching/Requests_for_Coaching
Thank you for updating your entry on the above page to show you visited!

I have renumbered the current requests list: the request's number will remain the same - otherwise, there are problems if someone on the older requests visits - for example, visited the page today - and they are number 7... where do they go?

A request keeping the same number all the time means that people on the older requests list can just move their entry to the current requests list in numerical order without having to re-number all the entries. All new requests will just use the next number in sequence (for example, if decided to add their name to the list, they would use number 123.

In that way, even if people's requests are removed (either because they start coaching, or no longer want it), although there will be gaps, no one needs to renumber any requests.

I have also proposed that anyone who does not visit the page in 6 months will have their request removed. If you want to comment on this, please feel free to comment here. Alternatively feel free to contact me!

I thought I'd better let you know - I didn't want you to think that I'd renumbered it for the sake of it, there is logic there!

Regards, --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:32, 12 December 2009 (UTC)