User talk:TheeConsultant

November 2016
Your recent edit to Upper Arlington High School appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. Meters (talk) 17:38, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Upper Arlington High School, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Meters (talk) 17:40, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You should read WP:WTAF. If the alumni are notable write articles about them showing their notability and that they attended the school before adding them to the alumni list. Meters (talk) 17:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for giving me feedback. This is my very first edit.

I started with something that I knew to be correct and tried to follow the format of the other listings above my entry.

I did cite 2 sources. 1. Walk The Moon's Wikipedia page 2. An article from the Columbus Dispatch newspaper citing both Kevin & Sean and their attendance / affiliation with Upper Arlington schools.

If I put the citing sources in the wrong place, please let me know where to place them. I even tried to link Walk The Moon's Wikipedia page as a hyperlink on their entries.

Please let me know what & how to make the correction.

These are the two URL's for the 2 citing sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_the_Moon

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/life_and_entertainment/2015/04/02/1-popularity-hasnt-changed-quartets-sound-approach.html

Heck, I hope I even get this 'talk' response correct. I watched some of the video to see how it is done, so I am not 100% sure I did it correctly. Please let me know if you get this ok.TheeConsultant (talk) 17:54, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you again for your feedback and direction!
 * Yup, you are using the talk page correctly, but you should sign your posts with 4 tildes, like this ~ . That will add your signature and a time stamp. Feel free to delete the warnings. You know there's a problem and are trying to learn so they are no longer needed. Here are some pointers:


 * 1) Sources have to go in the article, not the edit summary. See Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/1 for teh start of an into to referencing.
 * 2) We cannot use Wikipedia as a source. It is a user-generated site and thus is not a reliable source. See WP:RS. If the information you want is cited in the article to a reliable source then you can just copy that source into the new article. In this case there isn't evena claim in the article that they attended the school. let alone a source.
 * 3) The newspaper article is OK to show that they are in a band and live in the town, but it does not say that they attended the high school. Even with a source to show that they attended the school you would still need to write an article for each of them to show that hey are notable before adding them to the alumni list. The local newspaper article mentioning them is not sufficient to show notability. And note that you would have to show the notability of the musicians as individuals. The band is notable, but the individual members are not notable just for being members of the band. See WP:NM and WP:BIO. Meters (talk) 18:28, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again
Ok. I will attempt to read up and try to understand this. Now I have to figure out how to write an article. It seems silly though that I can't use their Wikipedia page because it is user generated content, but if I write an article isn't that the same thing (I am writing it)?

I must admit that this is a huge challenge for me. It seems like Latin to me & I am getting frustrated. I will have to reconsider if I should continue to participate. I have access to lots of information, people and use Wikipedia a lot and see many edits that I can make, suggest & add. I am a detailed person, but this process is challenging for me and I don't know if I have the time to get to understand it with my usual attention to detail and understanding that I give to things I participate in.

I guess Kevin & Sean are out of luck (and the many others who I can add/edit). LOL

Thank you again for your feedback though. TheeConsultant (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC) (I hope I 'signed' this correctly even though I do not understand what it is/means). TheeConsultant (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Read the links again if you don't understand why you can't use Wikipedia as a source. You can write a new article, but the information has to be verifiable. It has to be cited to reliable sources. People can and do add anything to Wikipedia. People add incorrect material, sometimes knowingly, all the time. If someone else then uses that article as a source for another article the misinformation gets propagated. When the original article is corrected we still have the mistake in the new article. Meters (talk) 19:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)