User talk:Thegontlit

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August 2009
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 * As I noted, part of the issue is your username. Because you have a conflict of interest, it is critical that you demonstrate the notability of the underground paper via independent reliable sources. The Jacko makes extensive use of independent sources; none were cited for the Gontlit. —C.Fred (talk) 22:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest this block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. --Stephen 00:16, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Thegontlit (talk) 00:20, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment from user filing WP:UAA complaint. Yes, I did suggest that a new username would be in order. The problem is your choice was enough of a variant of my name that I felt it was a personal attack against me.
 * As far as conflict of interest, your change of username will not remove the conflict of interest. Your initial choice of the name suggests you have a connection with the blog.
 * That said, blocks are intended to be preventative, and I will endorse your unblock on the following conditions:
 * You select a new username which does not violate the username guidelines - specifically the guidelines against using the name of an organization/publication and against usernames that are confusing or harass other users.
 * Your first edit after unblocking is to request a change of username to the username you selected in step 1.
 * You provide an independent reliable source before adding mentions of the Gontlit to any article - or you refrain entirely from adding it. (The blog itself is not independent.)
 * Please reply below; you need not use the unblock template in replying to this message. Other admins, feel free to unblock if User:Thegontlit agrees to the terms above. —C.Fred (talk) 00:47, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

1. Okay, it does have KFC in its name. So I will gladly change it. 2. Not entirely sure how to do so, but I will read into it. At the worst can I just create a new account? 3. No. I will not agree to this. I find this completely biased and illogical. The only point of reference the Actual Student Newspaper The Gauntlet uses is ITSELF. You are asking me to go above and beyond what you've previously deemed to be fair. This is not fair, and I ask that you either remove the Gauntlet page (unless you can find secondary sources as you are asking me) or you allow the 2 sentence subsection to stay.

I would also like to prove that C.Fred is biased in his decisions in that he cites this was a personal attack. On the Personal attack page it does NOT say in the subsection "What is considered to be a personal attack" anything regarding "close variants of a name" or anything of that matter to which he accused me of. However it does say:

"Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence. Evidence often takes the form of diffs and links presented on wiki. Sometimes evidence is kept private and made available to trusted users." is a personal attack. How can you accuse someone of harrassment or a personal attack when the act in question is not documented in the criteria of what is considered to be a personal attack, yet say I am making a personal attack? Do you see me making any legal threats? Making fun of your race? Threatening to reveal something private of yours? No. You abused your powers, and it wasn't nice. I did nothing wrong except for being new to the wikipedia world and deciding to learn on the fly rather than reading every little detail whereas C.Fred is a veteran of the Wikipedia world and should know these rules and regulations. I plead ignorance in the fact that I am new to wikipedia and do not know every rule (I am learning though) but what is your excuse C.Fred for making up the fact that I was harassing you in the form of a personal attack?Thegontlit (talk) 01:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Unblock try 2

 * I hope you are willing to revise saying "we will push people to do it for us," since pushing the point is exactly what you should avoid doing. Make your case and let others decide, then drop it, either way.  Mango juice talk 06:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

changed it to your exact words. :)