User talk:Thejazzonline

April 2022
Hello Thejazzonline. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Steve Rodby, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Thejazzonline. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message.  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  18:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Clarification: i am helping one of my oldest friends update his wiki page (steve rodby). i apologize for any confusion.  Thejazzonline (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I strongly encourage you to read Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest (COI). External relationships with the subject of an article, paid or otherwise, are problematic. I would advise against editing the article altogether. Please note that Wikipedia policies regarding biographies of living persons are particularly strict.
 * For a guide on how to proceed from here, please read plain and simple conflict of interest guide. You may also consider reading our policies on neutral point of view, verifiability, and original research.  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  18:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no COI. I am a journalist with 30 years of experience and I deal with the facts. I am updating a page that is not accurate. All I am doing is bettering the Wiki page. I have no vested interest other than to add correct and factual data to the page to strengthen its accuracy. That said, I completely understand and respect the rules of Wiki but I disagree with your assessment on my updates. Thejazzonline (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You first described the subject in your edit summary as a "client," implying that you are being paid to edit. You then described him as "one of my oldest friends." Now you claim to be an independent journalist. As for your edit, start by finding sources that describe the subject as a "video editor" and "educator." Post a link to the sources on the talk page, and we'll work from there.  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  19:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * First, I explained my use of the word client was a mistake. Secondly, as a journalist for 3 decades in a small industry you do get familiar with people you interview or document. However, this does not mean one is not objective in how you report/cover a subject. Again, the facts are the facts. In regards to your request for links, I am not sure where they are to be posted. For example, Rodby teaches at University of Washington (https://music.washington.edu/people/steve-rodby. As far as video editing is concerned, he is worked on many projects with Pat Metheny Group (https://www.patmetheny.com/video/). What is the best method to offer that information (separately)? Plz advise. Thx. Thejazzonline (talk) 20:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. You would need to find sources that use the words "educator" and "video editor" to describe him. Otherwise, it may be a violation of our original research policy. The general issue with this kind of edit is that it isn't really adding any direct factual information about the subject's biography. Packing this kind of stuff into the lead can come across as subtle puffery.  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  13:26, 24 April 2022 (UTC)