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Radio Times reference
Thanks for providing the Radio Times reference for Daleks in Manhattan. Would you mind doing the same for the plot section at 42 (Doctor Who)? I'd do it, but I don't have the magazine myself, so I don't know the page number and details like that. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 10:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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Proof that 22/7 exceeds π
At talk:Proof that 22/7 exceeds π, you wrote:
 * Sorry if this seems stupid, but I don't know why this article exists. Do we also need to prove that 4 is bigger than 3? That 50 is bigger than 1.2? No.
 * I can see it now:
 * 'Proof that 4 exceeds 3'
 * 'Proof that 4 exceeds 3'
 * 'Proof that 4 exceeds 3'

Well, pardon me if these seems blunt, but that question does seem stupid, but also seems puzzling: I wonder just what people like you who ask that question could have in mind (and you may have noticed that several people raised the same question in the extensive deletion discussion).

I wonder whether those who ask that question even know how to prove, only by a loose heuristic argument, that π > 3 or that π < 4. Are those things that you know how to do, or do you just take the textbook's word for it that π = 3.14159...? If that last possibility is the case then you've cut yourself off from the means of understanding anything. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * In response to your post on my talk page:
 * The textbook says: circumference of a circle / diameter of same circle = pi.
 * In school, one is taught this and looks at circles and manages to work out a couple of decimal places of pi. Mathematical people have proved time and time again that pi ~ (from memory) 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944. That is less than 22/7 (work it out). Ergo, pi < 22/7.
 * I think many people who are not as well versed in maths as most of the editors of that page would not understand why that page exists, and it needs to be made clearer to them (me included). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelb4 (talk • contribs)
 * In school, one is taught this and looks at circles and manages to work out a couple of decimal places of pi. Mathematical people have proved time and time again that pi ~ (from memory) 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944. That is less than 22/7 (work it out). Ergo, pi < 22/7.
 * I think many people who are not as well versed in maths as most of the editors of that page would not understand why that page exists, and it needs to be made clearer to them (me included). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelb4 (talk • contribs)
 * I think many people who are not as well versed in maths as most of the editors of that page would not understand why that page exists, and it needs to be made clearer to them (me included). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelb4 (talk • contribs)

That is a truly bizarre way of viewing things, almost bordering on psychotic, as it appears to me. We face a question:
 * Question: How do we humans know that pi = 3.14159..., etc., so that we can assert that in our textbooks?
 * Thelb4's Answer: Because our textbooks tell us so. And "mathematical people have proved it".
 * Question: How did they prove it?
 * Thelb4's Answer: The textbooks and the history books say they have. That's how.  Therefore we don't need Wikipedia articles that explain how.
 * Question: How did they prove it?
 * Thelb4's Answer: The textbooks and the history books say they have. That's how.  Therefore we don't need Wikipedia articles that explain how.
 * Thelb4's Answer: The textbooks and the history books say they have. That's how.  Therefore we don't need Wikipedia articles that explain how.
 * Thelb4's Answer: The textbooks and the history books say they have. That's how.  Therefore we don't need Wikipedia articles that explain how.

You stop BARELY short of asserting that that number was brought down from Mount Sinai by a prophet and that that's how we know it. The article on which you comment, on the other hand, tries to EXPLAIN how it can be known (although not as many digits as you quote above).

You claim that in school you worked out a couple of decimal places by "looking at circles". I don't know how I would do that. I do know how I can quickly show that pi is more than 3 but less than 4. And it's NOT by saying "we were taught that, and the textbooks say it".

To say that we know that pi is less than 22/7 because we know that pi is 3.14159etc., is a put the cart before the horse. The article MUST start from the assumption that we DON'T know that sort of thing. Any reasonable reader would be very offended if it didn't. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

PS: I used template:unsigned on your comments because you didn't put four tildes ~ after them so that your signature and the date and time stamp would appear. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Many Thanks
Thanks Thelb4 for the help in editing and finally giving the article History of University of Santo Tomas a Good Article status! I don't know where to put this acknowledgment appropriately. Again, thank you!

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