User talk:Theleekycauldron/Archive/2024/April

A barnstar for you!

 * thank you! and yours in return:


 * Congrats to you both! It looks like this is the first FA for a specific commercial branded food product. It's always nice to see us push FA into new realms, and I hope it paves the way for future content improvements in those realms!  Sdkb  talk 19:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Kbdank71 · Kosack · NrDg · TLSuda

Guideline and policy news Technical news Arbitration Miscellaneous
 * An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
 * The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes.
 * An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
 * Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Can I quote you at WT:Notability?
I'd like to start a thread there based on your comment from my withdrawn RFD on THREE:
 * It's unclear as a matter of current policy whether (and to what extent) GNG allows notability outside of THREE. The guideline itself is silent on the issue; WP:NCORP explictily endorses it: An individual source must meet all of these criteria to be counted towards establishing notability; each source needs to be significant, independent, reliable, and secondary. In addition, there must also be multiple such sources to establish notability.; WP:NBIO explicitly rejects it: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. That leaves GNG in a middle state where it's not reaaally clear and varies by the interpretations of who's participating in any given discussion. I personally tend to lean towards the NCORP/THREE approach; claims made as a part of an in-depth, well-researched article are more reliable than claims made in passing, making "strung-together" articles usually of lower quality.

Do you think a discussion on the clarity of GNG on the "multiple sources" question would be likely to be productive / go anywhere, and if so, can I reproduce your argument when starting such a thread? ~ A412  talk! 21:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @A412: Go ahead! the text is CC-BY-SA, of course, but you have my courtesy-based permission as well :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you're looking for results, angle for an RfC on something concrete. "Should the text of GNG be..." theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Heckler v. Chaney
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I sent you an email
...just FYI! Cheers, Generalrelative (talk) 20:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Heckler v. Chaney
The article Heckler v. Chaney you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Heckler v. Chaney and Talk:Heckler v. Chaney/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Voorts -- Voorts (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Odd error currently in Prep 6
theleekycauldron, for some reason, instead of currently showing four queues at the moment, User:Theleekycauldron/Templates/DYK queue backlog is instead showing zero when you look at the Prep 6 page, with the usual all-red alarming message. The change occurred with https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know/Preparation_area_6&diff=prev&oldid=1218131844 this seemingly ordinary PSHAW edit].

Note that this is the only prep or queue or major DYK page I can find at the current time that shows this problem with the backlog box, and it hadn't been an issue prior to the edit that added that third hook on the Marcelino Gutiérrez article, along with the two DYKmake templates. The only think that was even slightly odd is that the second of the DYKmakes is for User:2x2leax, who has a redirect to a meta user page rather than a user page on en:Wikipedia. This may have nothing at all to do with anything, but it was different. Best of luck in figuring this out—it may not ultimately matter, though if this continues to show up in the prep and ultimately the queue, it may cause some alarm when people go to edit that particular page. Thank you very much, and sorry for bothering you! I thought you'd want to know. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * huh! seems to have gone away on its own, so I dunno what caused it – dollars to donuts it was some kinda caching bug. Thanks for the eagle eyes, lemme know if it comes up again :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, that's annoying: at least it could have stuck around for you to see it in action! Let's hope this was a one-off fluke, or at least only shows its face for short periods of time. Did you see my PSHAW request at WT:DYK to fix hooks that starts "...that" rather than "... that" with the required space, so they're formatted correctly in prep? I've had to fix a fair number of these over time—and just had to request a queue fix today when one slipped past me—and it would be helpful if they were corrected as part of the automated promotion process. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * definitely thought about it! PSHAW is pretty stagnant for the moment, but if I ever get that fire back it's on the to-do list. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter
We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:


 * with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
 * with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
 * with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
 * with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
 * with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
 * with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (,, and ) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Piri
Hi, I'm trying to get Piri to FA and plan on renominating once I have some more GAs. I was wondering if you could take a look while I'm waiting?-- Laun chba ller 15:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

April thanks
Thank you for improving article quality in April! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)