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Wikipedia mirrors
Hi. First, let me say how glad I am that you're still plugging away at copyvios. :D We really need you. I hope you will be well and thoroughly addicted by the time you do pick up your admin tools, as we still have such a shortage of copyvio admins.

Specifically, I'm here to discuss a special situation you encountered on Aamir Ghauri. This was tagged by CorenSearchBot, but you removed the tag as a "Wikipedia mirror." True enough; it is. But strange as it seems, this does not eliminate copyvio concerns; it just means we have to figure out how this content got placed as "new" on Wikipedia by this contributor and if he had the right to place it here. For example, did he copy or split it from an existing article? Did he salvage an article that had been deleted? Either way, unless he was the sole contributor of the earlier version, he can't place the text here without acknowledging his source as required under re-use at the copyright policy. In this particle case, the article is a WP:CSD. Since I can see the contributor list, I know that it is also a copyvio, as this was not the creator of the text originally. If the previous article had been deleted by PROD, I'd be restoring the history for attribution and, if the deletion rationale seemed valid, nominating for AfD.

Back to it, but I wanted to stop and explain. These don't show up that often, but they do pop up now and again and they require a bit of sleuthing. :) If you find one and need to view the history, please feel free to pop by my talk page, and I can help figure out if there are attribution issues. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:24, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Orgyen Tobgyal
I apologize for the confusion between CC-By-NC 3.0 and CC-By-SA 3.0, thanks for the correction. I have rewritten the sentences that were too close from the main source, and added other references, which helped having more accurate information. Please, can you see wether this is now acceptable ? With many thanks in advance, --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, I'll remember the difference. Sorry again for the trouble. All the best. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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Copyright
It's taken direct from the Refuge website, which is a product of the federal government and consequently in public domain. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, it's my pleasure. Apparently there are a lot of mirrors of NWR websites out there - tourist websites, mainly - which clouds the issue considerably.  I left Coren a note on his talkpage explaining what my sources are for these. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Ser Amantio di Nicolao. I hope TL doesn't mind my jumping in here. Thanks for providing the attributions to the source. I just wanted to mention that it is also suggested that you make a note about the source in your edit summary when it is copied text. For example, when creating Clear Lake National Wildlife Refuge, your first edit summary could say, text copied from PD website http://www.fws.gov/Refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=81647. This is our preferred procedure at WP:Plagiarism. It may help in keeping some of the unwanted CV tags off the article. But, more importantly, it is very helpful later on, after other editors have changed or altered the original text. Good luck with your editing. — Cactus Writer |   needles  09:02, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup submissions
Hi, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiCup.  iMatthew  talk   at 18:50, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Cellophane
Hi. :) Thanks for the clean up on that one (and all the other ones you clean up :D), but wanted to point out that the link is a problem under WP:LINKVIO. We can link to music lyrics if they are hosted legally, but not when they are a violation of copyright. In any event, I am redirecting this one per WP:MUSIC, as it doesn't indicate stand-alone notability.--Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know! :) Yeah, redirecting the article seems like a good idea (why didn't I think of that?!).  The left orium  20:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Jacksonville
I have double checked the new version and I assure you that every sentence is different. I think the history is far more comprehensive and draws from more sources than the article which you cite. Thanks. Racepacket (talk) 15:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for specifying your concerns. All four of the sentences you cited are different:
 * On March 1, 1847, the legislature established a nine-member board of trustees that was empowered to appoint a superintendent, purchase land within four miles of Jacksonville, and construct facilities for the Illinois State Asylum and Hospital for the Insane. (both paraphrased the statute)
 * All patients were to be maintained at state expense. However, patients or their counties were expected to pay for clothing, travel, and incidental expenses. (This will be fixed.)
 * At that time, the board of trustees was reduced to three members and the newly created Board of State Commissioners of Public Charities was given authority to investigate and report to the Governor on conditions at the hospital. (This will be fixed.)
 * From 1944 to 1974 the hospital provided training in psychiatric nursing for participated in a departmental affiliation program for psychiatric nursing which provided instruction in psychiatric nursing to students from general hospital nursing schools. Jacksonville's Psychiatric Nursing Affiliation Program, which was headed by the State Alienist, The Psychiatric Nursing Affiliation Program offered two-, three,- and four-month terms of classroom instruction and practical training at the hospital.

I believe the articles are sufficiently different. I also suspect that the Manteno website copied it from a state website. Racepacket (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have addressed your two sentences. You see that I added two more sources which I have found, and that you have checked those as well. I think this is sufficiently different to withstand any copyright infringement suit from the Manteno website, which appears to have derived from the Illinois archives website. A court would look at the order in which ideas are presented (the organization of the work) as well as the individual sentences. Every sentence and their sequence are different. Racepacket (talk) 16:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your consideration. You are probably wondering why should English Wikipedia see new articles on these subjects only after so many years. Although these Illinois institutions were historic pioneers in the fields of mental health and developmental disability, and did much to improve the care of hundreds of thousands of patients, there is a certain stigma attached to mental illness and people don't want to spend their time reading and writing about it. It is still an important part of society and cultural heritage. Racepacket (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:Split
Hello. While looking over your edits I noticed that yesterday you found and corrected two instances where WP:Split wasn't executed properly. Adair (name) and Postal codes in Israel were the split articles for which you fixed the attribution. I'm curious - how did you learn that those articles needed attribution links? Did you randomly happen across them or is there a search that helped you locate them? If there is a search procedure to find improperly split articles then I would appreciate it if you could explain how to perform that search. That's something I would be interested in helping with. If you just happened to stumble across those articles, then kudos to you for your diligence and your attention to detail. 152.16.59.102 (talk) 22:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Jackson Warner
Hi. I appreciate that you made some efforts to paraphrase the text on Andrew Jackson Warner so it would no longer be a copyright infringement. Unfortunately, adding synonyms and minor alterations in the sentences won't relieve the plagiarism issue. As it is currently written, the text will need to be deleted as a copyright violation. You are welcome to rewrite the text using original language. The page on WP:Close paraphrasing can provide you with some explanations and help. In the long run, it is always better to simply write the text from scratch using your own words. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Regards.  The left orium  20:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * rewrote article to address your concerns--Pubdog (talk) 20:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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Feedback request
Hi. I know you're not currently signed on with WP:COPYCLEAN, but I consider you a pretty important part of the copyright cleanup team given your current activities. :) There is some conversation at WT:COPYCLEAN at the moment that may interest you, and particularly this thread as MLauba is discussing something that will impact the workload at WP:SCV. If you feel like it, please drop by. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and a request
You may not know that Corensearchbot is not at this point able to warn individuals if they do not already have article talk pages. If you clean an article where the contributor was not warned (I see this happened at Yokohama Country & Athletic Club), could you please explain the copyright policies to them? This is important, obviously, to keep them from doing it again, when Corensearchbot might not notice. :) I'll let this one know. This is jut a request for future. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:54, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. I found another one of these (not yours) and have created a form letter for the situation. It's at User:Moonriddengirl/form_letters. Feel free to use it. If you copy the material from ==, the only thing you need to include is the article title. :) (Again, if you see any mistakes, please let me know!) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * shamelessly stolen remixed and attributed. MLauba (talk) 15:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't know that. I'll use your form letter in the future. :-)  The left orium  15:56, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm about to test MLauba's template on you. :D Don't worry. It'll be swiftly removed. If it works, you can save some time and just use ARTICLE and get a handy notice. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

new proyects
hey left, i saw your to-do list and if you do noit mind i could help in the MJ song Smooth criminal, so wachta say. -- Pedro J. the rookie 20:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Left i want to nominate the pilot of FG but i do not know is i did it right ctj83 daid that you may now.-- Pedro J. the rookie 23:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * In reference to listing general Show related cast info for an episode page. C T J F 8 3  chat 23:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

can you tell me if the producction isright, i mean i put a lot of the FG page it self and dont now if it's right.-- Pedro J. the rookie 23:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * For Death Has a Shadow he put in cast and production information from the series as a whole, not specifically related to the episode. I said to ask you if that is how he should do it or not. I didn't think so. C T J F 8 3  chat 23:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that section should be shortened down (like a small summary) since it's already on the main Family Guy article. This article doesn't seem ready for GAN, though. The reception section needs to be expanded.  The left orium  23:22, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown

 * Thank you! :)  The left orium  09:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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No, I haven't forgotten. I'll get to it. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna wait a while until I create it. There's a huge backlog at GAN and I don't want to add more to the section. When it slows down, I guess, I'll create the article. Also, thank you for the barnstar, I appreciate a whole lot. :) -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  15:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Homer the Whopper/GA1
Hey, Left. A user has opened up the review for the article - I've adhered to a few issues, but there's still some more.  The Flash  {talk} 23:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

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Illinois State Archives website
Hi, TL. For your information, I left the following message on Moonriddengirl's page to see what she says.

I saw your discussion with Theleftorium concerning text copied from from the Illinois State Archives website on those mental hospital pages. That text is a description taken directly from the Illinois Secretary of State's website (which hosts the archival info). According to their disclaimer notice here, Information presented on the Secretary of State’s web site is considered public information and may be distributed or copied. The question is whether that that simple of a notice conforms with WP. — Cactus Writer |   needles  07:01, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Copy editing for Lisa the Vegetarian?
Hello! I was just noticing in the list of WikiProject Articles Needing Copy Edit that this article is listed. You said in April 2009 that, "the article needs a copyedit before I nominate it for FA." It's now a FA (congratulations!), so do you still need the article on that list? JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Archive
I was doing in manually with the help of the tool. I hope you don't mind. I didn't change any of the actual content, all I did was fix a few disambiguations and links. The actual content is the same and every link goes to the same target page (i.e. the link to Superintendent Chalmers goes to the page that Superintendent Chalmers redirects to (List of recurring characters in The Simpsons#Superintendent Chalmers). I would never change what others are saying.  TJ   Spyke   14:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Re:The Great Wife Hope
Thanks, Theleftorium! Consider it my first act as a member of WP:DOH, lol :)  The Flash  {talk} 20:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And do you need any help with "Homer the Whopper" or do you have it already planned out?  The Flash  {talk} 20:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll see what I can add to it :)  The Flash  {talk} 20:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you able to collaborate with me on articles again now? 03 md  20:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I might have some time over this weekend to work on the production section for The Otto Show. Could you expand the reception section and clean up the rest of the article a bit?  The left orium  20:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Left, scorpion, flash and me finished Homer the whopper and it is now a GAN, good job lefty.=D-- Pedro J.  the rookie 04:10, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

hry left, can you tell me some hallmarks that lisa has, i am working to get her to a fa.-- Pedro J. the rookie 18:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

is that better left or i=did i just make it worst.-- Pedro J. the rookie 19:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

can you connect to wpsimpsons.-- Pedro J. the rookie 19:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

darn, well lisa is a bit more cmplicated than bart, so we well see what happens tell me when you can conect to disscus unless you wish to discuss now.-- Pedro J. the rookie 19:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC) tell me what can i do so that we can agree on lisa.-- Pedro J. the rookie 23:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

better yet i have a peer review on lisa can you review it.-- Pedro J.  the rookie 20:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

congrats, homer the whopper isa a ga.-- Pedro J. the rookie 19:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Would you like to help me?
Hi, I'm Music2611, we have met a few times I believe. I'm currently working on Seinfeld season two episode articles, but I'm having difficulties finding sources for reception. Could you help me out, as you have access to LexisNexis. Most urgent are reviews for "The Revenge", which is currently at FAC. Additionally, if it's no problem, I need some reviews to expand the reception sections in "The Baby Shower", "The Apartment" and, perhaps, "The Chinese Restaurant". Thanks.-- Music 26/  11  10:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Great! You can e-mail them to me, my adress is "pietjepuk93@live.nl".-- Music 26/  11  16:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, don't mean to push you or anything, but I haven't received anything yet, and those Revenge reviews are a little bit urgent-- Music 26/  11  20:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, no prob.-- Music 26/  11  15:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's very nice of you. Thanks, a lot. Really.-- Music 26/  11  15:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia
Hi. I was browsing through Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, and I noticed that you credited me in this edit summary. To clarify things, I started the page as an outline, but Moonriddengirl has contributed the majority of the text. Flatscan (talk) 03:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, you both did a good job. :)  The left orium  09:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Lilly_Truscott_(character)
Hey. You seem to know a little bit about the copyright policy on Wikipedia so can you help me? The editor who created this page copy-pasted from List_of_Hannah_Montana_main_characters. I read somewhere that copy paste moves/splits are bad because they do not bring over the history of the text and attribute the work properly. I reported it Copyright_problems/2009_October_26. Is there anything else I should do or have I dont the right thing? Is it actually a problem or am I misremembering? Thanks.--TParis00ap (talk) 19:13, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi TParis00ap! :) This is indeed a problem so thank you bringing it up. As Split sets out, when material is split, we have to provide a direct link to the source article. Instructions on how to do this are located in the Hyperlink section at Copying_within_Wikipedia. I will fix this one for you and leave a message at the user's talk page.  The left orium  19:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Figured you'd know what to do, copyright seems to be your area.--TParis00ap (talk) 19:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * After doing some investigation, I decided to redirect the article because of the discussion at Talk:Lilly_Truscott.  The left orium  19:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Understood, makes sense. I never thought to look at the talk page of the redirect, assumed it was always that way.  Good to know.--TParis00ap (talk) 19:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

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You're eventually going to run out of space for these, but hey...
And to think I'm hard-pressed to find a way to get my one pet article from C-class to B-class... MLauba (talk) 14:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, thank you very much MLauba! I really, really, appreciate it. That just made my day. :)  The left orium  14:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar!!

 * Thanks a lot! You're a great editor yourself! :)  The cremat orium  Happy Halloween! 10:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Shamelessly borrowing stuff back from you :)
I heavily borrowed from the way you put your user page together to revamp mine. MLauba (talk) 11:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You did? I don't see any similarities but it certainly looks good! :)  The cremat orium  Happy Halloween! 11:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Spooky sig, BTW. MLauba (talk) 12:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Scared you, eh? Muahahaha!  The cremat orium  Happy Halloween! 12:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

rawr
hey sexy, just logged in for the first time in years and re-read your great page you made for me. swede :) User:IvanP91 11:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Happy Halloween
Those of us who seem to live and breathe copyright are very fortunate that you have decided to pitch in on this cleanup. I appreciate your diligence and persistence. Whatever brought you to us was most definitely to our benefit. :) Thanks. (It will not hurt my feelings if you want to get rid of the shiny Halloween image, though I love it. :D I hope it renders well on your page, because I don't usually make these things for myself.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What a lovely image! Thank you very much for the message. Happy Halloween to you too! :)  The cremat orium  Happy Halloween! 13:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops. I didn't make the image. I just compiled the box. :) Hmm. Misleading text. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh.. Well the box is nice too! ;-)  The cremat orium  Happy Halloween! 13:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL! Thanks. Truly, that's about the extent of my ability. I'm content to be proud even of that meager talent. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thank you Durova!  The left orium  09:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

RE: Barnstar
Thanks very much mate - although you as a competitor made the contest really something special. Best of luck for the future. GARDEN 21:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

William T. Miller
Hello,

I am a bit confused at your blanking of William T. Miller. The article did indeed have paraphrasing problems when first created, but I have been working with its creator for the past couple of days to fix those issues, and I believe the article is substantially improved compared to its original state. In my opinion, it no longer is a potential copyright violation, though we have still continued to improve it and bring in a much greater variety of sources. I am unsure what information you were using when you decided to blank the article, so if you could provide a specific rationale for your blanking of the article, I would be grateful.

Best, &mdash;Notyourbroom ( talk ) 23:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Notyourbroom. If you compare the third paragraph with this then you'll see what I mean. Adding synonyms and minor alterations in the sentences won't relieve the plagiarism issue. If you haven't already, take a look at Close paraphrasing for some advice.  The left orium  10:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think I fixed the concern with the third paragraph, but Notyourbroom has moved the fix to the talk subpage. Could you please review it, so that we can get this resolved? Thanks. Racepacket (talk) 03:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * By copying the content you rewrote into the subpage, Notyourbroom violated CWW. I therefore restored your edits on the main article. And since your rewrite looks good, I have removed the template. An admin will need the delete the subpage, though.  The left orium  16:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I apologize if I violated any policies, but I was under the impression that Racepacket had not been following the instructions on the Possible Copyright Infringement template, which specifically instructed us not to edit the main page but rather to put any revisions on the subpage. I thought Racepacket had misread the instructions and was making edits improperly to the original page instead of on the special-purpose subpage sandbox prescribed by the template. All that I did was revert to your original tagged version of the article and then move the revised prose onto the subpage, which, again, I thought was required in order to follow the process of clearing up the Possible Copyright Infringement. Please let me know what I misunderstood and did incorrectly here, because I do not want to mishandle similar situations in the future. &mdash;Notyourbroom ( talk ) 18:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In addition, I would propose modifying that template to give more explicit directions to clear up any such misunderstandings in the future (though I'm still unclear on what the misunderstanding was!). &mdash;Notyourbroom ( talk ) 18:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right that the text should have been rewritten on the temp page. However, Racepacket should have moved the text there instead of you, because otherwise it will look like as if you wrote that content and not him when the temp page is moved to the actual article by an administrator. Wikipedia's licensing requires that attribution be given to the original author.  The left orium  18:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

lisa
can you help me in the last concern that is in lisa simpsons pr.-- Pedro J. the rookie 18:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Done.  The left orium  18:53, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thamks and have a late but happy haloween:).-- Pedro J. the rookie 18:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hope you have great holiday too. :)  The left orium  18:57, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Left are you good at reviewing articals.-- Pedro J. the rookie 20:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I don't have time to review any articles right now. Sorry. :/  The left orium  20:42, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * NO worrys, hey which do you perfer for the TFA of the simpsosn.-- Pedro J. the rookie 20:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Homer. I already replied there. :)  The left orium  20:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering
Hey, Lefty. Just wondering, about two months ago, you intoned that you would try to get around to reviewing one of my GANs when you had the time - have you gotten some time to be able to do this? Sorry if it's imposing, just want to check in, as a lot of them are getting swept up in the whole backlog at GAN. Cheers,  The Flash  {talk} 02:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll review one this weekend.  The left orium  15:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks :)  The Flash  {talk} 20:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup Awards
Congratulations! Hope to see you sign up for the 2010 WikiCup, here, if you haven't already!  iMatthew  talk   at 23:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oooh, shiny! Thanks. :)  The left orium  14:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Article split
Thank you for the advice, for future reference. Before doing the split, I read the relevant procedure [note the tag, for example]. This talks about (a) putting a tag on it to ask an administrator to do it or (b) be bold and just do it. I didn't see the 'copied from' tag that you mention, but I know about it now. No need to reply. --Red King (talk) 11:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Feel Better
Feel better soon Left! :) C T J F 8 3  chat 21:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Hopefully it won't affect my editing too much (although I'm trying to stay away from the computer). :)  The left orium  21:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL, I try to stay away from Wikipedia too...doesn't work. C T J F 8 3  chat 10:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:GA review
No problem. I hope you feel better! :)  The Flash  {talk} 16:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that's good.  The Flash  {talk} 16:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations!!!
You've been selected as a chairperson for the Donut Days 2009 event, an international collaboration to improve Wikipedia's Doughnut coverage. According to the list of doughnut varieties article we are in need of something on klenater. Feel free to merge, redirect, or create this article as you see fit, and to add other Swedish varietals as necessary. I know we can work Homer Simpson into most of the new articles being created as part of this exciting endeavor. ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Mmm... klenäter *drools*. Thank you very much for electing me, I've signed up on the project page! :-)  The left orium  15:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What is "munk"? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I found some very nice Fattingman photos, but I don't know if they're "bakkels" and they aren't licensed for Wikipedia use, but I could ask. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Munk is the Swedish term for "doughnut". Those images are definitely Fattigmann (I renamed the article "Fattigmann" by the way. It's more common).  The left orium  15:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sideshow Bob
What source? Sources 63-66 all link back to the page. If souring is a problem, I can provide the episode transcript if you want. The Clawed One (talk) 17:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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I strengthened the image rationale for that article — should be ready now.  The Flash  {talk} 19:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

The Art of Negative Thinking
It's very dark humor, but thought this was a very funny movie. Elling was great also.ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never seen The Art of Negative Thinking actually. I'm not usually a fan of Scandinavian films, although I do love Elling (both the film and the books). You should see the prequel, Mors Elling. It's almost as good. :) (the article for that film needs to be created, btw.)  The left orium  15:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That's nothing to be ashamed of, really. I'm not sure I've even heard of it. But based on its merits, I'd say Kunsten å tenke negativt does warrant an article on enwp. And Mors Elling too :) decltype (talk) 15:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I'll write a DYK then. Feel free to help out. :)  The left orium  15:59, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Anna Bågenholm FAC
I have revised the opening sentences to meet the objection raised at FAC. Of course, if you don't like what I've done feel free to change it. Brianboulton (talk) 14:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that. Thank you very much! :)  The left orium  14:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Lisa FAC
Lisa is nominated could you review it.-- Pedro J. the rookie 02:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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hey left your kind of an expert on ga on episode articals(in tiger woods level of golf and beckams football) so how can i find production for episodes.-- Pedro J. the rookie 23:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Pedro. DVD commentaries are usually the best sources for production info.  The left orium  14:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Darn i got no dvds of nmothing, is there any way to get them without the dvds.-- Pedro J. the rookie 18:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, sorry.  The left orium  19:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

No prob just many proyects need production a well keep it up your work-- Pedro J. the rookie 19:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC) Could you help me out as i am trying to get lisa simpson to FA i need some help at cultural influences, my work is in here here-- Pedro J. the rookie 18:16, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

"image is unnecessary"
Care to elaborate why the image is "unnecessary". I think it's kind of relevant to the article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Reinfeldts_and_Obamas.jpg Should we remove the other image as well, with FR and Bush, or is that more "necessary"? --Winterus (talk) 16:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Most of the section is about his relationship with Bush. Also, sandwiching text between two images should be avoided per WP:MOSIMAGES.  The left orium  16:31, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Devil NADA
hey what do you think the artica\l needs-- Pedro J. the rookie 20:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Copyediting. I'll work on that this weekend or on Monday.  The left orium  20:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Tell me idf you need somw help on it-- Pedro J. the rookie 20:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Charlie Bit My Finger
Since it's a short video, shouldn't the title be in quotes ("Charlie Bit My Finger") rather than italics, throughout the article? I noticed that the Sydney Morning Herald italicizes all of the videos they covered, but per WP:MOSTITLE, you probably oughtta do quotes. Such a cute video, it would be a great DYK subject (I saw that you nommed it). :) Jamie  S93  01:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right, I've changed it to quotes now. Thanks! :)  The left orium  10:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Charlie Bit My Finger
Charlie Bit My Finger -- LOL!!! Nice work!!! Cirt (talk) 08:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks! I can't believe we didn't have this article before! ;-)  The left orium  10:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Bågenholm FAC återigen
Please see Featured article candidates/Anna Bågenholm/archive1. Nice article but needs some more adjustment and better references IMO. Tip: Search http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed with search term "Hypothermia"[Mesh] AND ("Drowning"[Mesh] OR "Near Drowning"[Mesh]). A short review about the preclinical aspects is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC286328/pdf/bmj32701336.pdf, and the case itself and the original article are mentioned there. A more detailed review is for example: Giesbrecht GG: Cold stress, near drowning and accidental hypothermia: a review. Aviat Space Environ Med. 2000 Jul;71(7):733-52, though that may be not freely available online. Thanks and good luck. Kosebamse (talk) 10:48, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your comments. I will do my best to address them. :)  The left orium  12:06, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work! I'm going offline now but will look at this again, tomorrow perhaps. I do think that the factual questions can all be adressed, but that leaves stylistic matters, such as the over-referencing, the linguistic style, which for my taste is a little bit too reality TV-like, and the quality of the references. I'm not saying the article should not be promoted once these are adressed, but these matters might need another look. Some more input from other medicine men might also be warranted, perhaps one might ask at some medical collaborations noticeboard. Sorry that I can't be more specific but I am so disengaged from Wikipedia these days that I can't give better advice. Kosebamse (talk)
 * Hiya. Didn't find the time earlier. It seems that the FAC has been closed, citing mostly my points - stylistic problems and quality of references. I do think that this can be helped. If you wish to give the article another attempt at FAC, why not take some time out and consider these matters more thoroughly. I can absolutely not promis that I'll find enough time for this, but please ask if help is needed. Best, Kosebamse (talk) 01:20, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll try to fix the issues that were brought up at the FAC and then give it another go.  The left orium  10:20, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions
hey i am working on lisaa but i need some suggestions here-- Pedro J. the rookie 11:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for cleaning that up any sugestionns.-- Pedro J. the rookie 11:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The stuff you've found looks pretty good. You may want to ask Scorpion, he was the one who wrote the article from the beginning.  The left orium  11:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Your little brother next door
I was at a Moods of Norway store yesterday. Interesting. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Never heard of it. Did they sell Anti-Sweden jeans?  The left orium  10:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. They still seem upset about getting a Dala horse instead of a real one in Kitchen Stories? Sven and Ole jokes are popular in the Midwest. I think they may have something to do with the rivalry, but maybe not. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:40, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * According this book, they do. Sven and Ole jokes are not very common here though. We have Norgehistorier instead, a type of Bellman joke that make fun of the Norwegians. :)  The left orium  15:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Charlie Bit My Finger

 * Probably the best article at DYK for a very long time. And it's still hurting :)  GARDEN  14:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, thanks! It's also the cutest article at DYK for a very long time. :)  The left orium  14:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Weight Gain 4000 FAC
Thanks! —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  15:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of weight gain, did you tell me what Hjorte Bakkels and Futimonbuckles are? The second is just an alternate transliteration of Fattingmanm bakkels? Is it legitimate? Can we redirect. And the hjorte ones sound tasty. Can we add a bit about them (or even a section) to the main fattingman article and redirect? I know this seems trivial, but compared to the "Johnny bit my finger gag" this is Nobel worthy. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Futimonbuckles appears to be a misspelling of Fattingmanm bakkels (see ) so that is probably not worth redirecting. I have no idea what Hjorte Bakkels is though, and there are no results for it on Google (except for Wikipedia mirrors). Perhaps you could ask User:Decltype, he's Norwegian. :)  The left orium  16:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The mystery of the Hjortebakkels has only grown. On the one hand I have established that they are a real thing, that they can look like this and be made like this, and yet I'm still not entirely clear on how best to include them. They seem to be sometimes treated as a synonym or variant of smultringer, but they are not actually torus shapes. This is a very knotty problem. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I know one thing for sure, they seem delicious! Your addition to the Smultring article looks good to me.  The left orium  15:07, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that I couldn't be of more help. I don't think hjortebakkels are quite the same thing as a smultring. I only say this because I do not associate the foul stench of hornsalt with regular smultrings being made. And clearly, hornsalt is a required ingredient for hjortebakkels. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">decltype (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I haven't seen horn salt mentioned as an ingredient. I think the "horn" part of the name refers to the shape, which seems to be the key difference with smultring, and can perhaps be seen as being horn shaped (two horns overlapping?). Or maybe I'm just engaging in wishful thinking. Some mysteries aren't meant to be solved. Thanks to you both for your assistance on this important puzzle! :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

List of Pixar films
Greetings. I've had to revert this addition a number of times, and I admit I'm puzzled as to why it keeps getting added back. The provided source does not even mention Monsters, Inc. 2 in any way, shape or form. If you have a verifiable and reliable source to indicate that this movie is in active production, please be sure to add it instead of this improperly used citation. Thank you. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Crap, I accidentally clicked "rollback" on my watchlist. Sorry! :/  The left orium  16:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted gracefully ... I just got Rollback this week, and have been afraid about what would happen if I did that by accident. No worries, and thanks. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:07, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Minor Adjustment
Thanks for that. I didn't realise that I had The Leftorium. anyway, if you have created anything for the challenge, you can report it right now on that page and if you are quick enough, you will be the first to score points. ;)--<b style="font-family:Rockwell; color:blue;">Sky Attacker</b>   the legend reborn...  18:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

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Unable to resist bacon's temptations, rogue editors have kicked off the Bacon Challenge 2010 before the New Year even starts! This is a fun and collegial event and all are welcome. There are many non-pork articles for editors who enjoy some sizzle, but object to or don't like messing with pig products. This year's event also includes a Bacon WikiCup 2010 for those who may want to keep score and enjoy engaging in friendly competition. Given the critical importance of this subject matter, I know you will want to participate, so remember to sign up today and get started A.S.A.P. ALL ARE WELCOME!!! The more the merrier. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Good work!
You Swedish Meats article may not be about bacon specifically, but it mentions pigs so it is approved. It doesn't quite score you enough to earn the "substantial contributions" points but you have created it which means you are now on the board with your first 5 points. Good job.--<b style="font-family:Rockwell; color:blue;">Sky Attacker</b>   the legend reborn...  00:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :)  The left orium  09:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

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FAC
hey left can you tell me if Family Guy looks good for an FAC i looked at the simpsons history and it kind of looks the same-- Pedro J. the rookie 21:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It probably needs a copyedit. "performences", for example, is a spelling error.  The left orium  21:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And in general how is it-- Pedro J. the rookie 21:48, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The content looks good, although I haven't had time to read it all.  The left orium  21:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks just cleand up the spelling-- Pedro J. the rookie 22:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry sometimes i get out of my head i took of Peter's got woods but let the perfect castaway hope it dose not bother-- Pedro J. the rookie 15:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Deletion notice
Curious why you removed the deletion notice, at Bacon ? Cirt (talk) 15:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Simple mistake. Sorry!  The left orium  15:10, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, Cirt (talk) 15:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Swedish forums
Hi there Henrik, quick question if you don't mind: Which are the best forums to get answers to everyday questions related to Sweden (kind of like our Reference Desks)? I know of flashback, but I found the registration process to be rather tedious. Thanks, <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">decltype (talk) 09:31, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi! Webforum.nu is probably the best (after Flashback). You may find some useful links here as well.  The left orium  16:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Neat, thank you. Webforum looks promising. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">decltype (talk) 16:20, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

<S>DYK Questions
Since I've never done a DYK, would something like "Architectural journals poked fun at Davenport, Iowa city leaders for only spending $100,000 for the construction of the Davenport City Hall" be good? C T J F 8 3 chat 22:19, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that sounds good. The hook may require some copyediting though.  The left orium  22:22, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The article is too small though. It needs to be 1500 bytes of prose (the current version is 800 bytes).  The left orium  22:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll see what I can add, thanks. C T J F 8 3  chat 22:33, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I always have a problem understanding IN-U, even after reading it a few times. Are we not suppose to write pages in a historical context? Like everything kinda happens at the same time? For List of CSI: Miami characters, shouldn't status be removed? Also, Tim Speedle, shouldn't the "was" be changed to "is" and his date of death removed? Can you try and explain IN-U to me better? C T J F 8 3  chat 09:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's better if you ask this at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (writing about fiction).  The left orium  11:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Quest
Do you now any good copy editors who are available.-- Pedro J. the rookie 22:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors (scroll down to "Members").  The left orium  22:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, another quest on a scale from 1 to 10 how far would you say Family Guy is from FAC matirial.-- Pedro J. the rookie 22:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Um.. 5, maybe? I don't know. :P  The left orium  22:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well atleast i'm on half, LOL, you think it needs CE, or expantion?-- Pedro J. the rookie 22:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Mostly copyediting, I think.  The left orium  22:59, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks try to dowhat i can, final quest how do i close an FAC i think i should work more on it without presure-- Pedro J. the rookie 23:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll ask one of the FAC directors for you.  The left orium  23:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Charlie Bit Me Auto-Tune
Charlie Bit Me Auto-Tune, omg omg lol. Cirt (talk) 16:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * lol indeed! Enertainment Weekly mentioned the video so it might be worth adding to the article. ;)  The  left orium  18:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

New form letter
Hi. :) Based on a recent fiasco, I have a new form letter that you might find useful, here. I've created it for article talk pages. It works for contributor talk pages, too, but said recent fiasco convinces me that the article talk page is better. :) See it in action at Talk:Sea rescue (in conjunction with nothanks template to the article's creator, including (see talk) after the URL of the infringement.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
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FAC
Hey, for an FAC, do I strike out the comments when I fix someone's suggestion, or do they do it, after they see I've fixed it? C T J F 8 3 chat 20:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the reviewer should strike them. If you want to mark something as done, just use done or Done-t. Good luck with the FAC! :)  The left orium  20:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! C T J F 8 3  chat 20:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No sense in starting a new section....When you source to an episode, how do you format the reference? C T J F 8 3  chat 20:47, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Template:Cite episode? :)  The left orium  20:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL, so easy, how did I miss it ;) C T J F 8 3  chat 21:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * While I'm bugging you...how do I archive this discussion so it gets that purple background? C T J F 8 3  chat 21:10, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Template:Polltop, maybe?  The left orium  21:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That works....also, how do I get that pink section (your edit note) to appear on my page? C T J F 8 3  chat 21:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Just edit User talk:Ctjf83/Editnotice.  The left orium  21:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thanks! C T J F 8 3  chat 21:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, can you edit my talk, and see if it has your name at top, and if the talkback template works correctly on my talk. Thanks.  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thank you C T J F 8 3  chat 21:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you make the bottom of the table on List of Glee episodes? C T J F 8 3  chat 03:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea why you deleted my addition on Dan Castellaneta page. I am a resident of the community, my two sons go to Oak Park and River Forest High School, and I'd be happy to show you a picture of the Wall of Fame with his photo near Earnest Hemmingway's! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.10.188 (talk) 01:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you fix the Barnstar issue? Thanks, C T J F 8 3  chat 21:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. :)  The left orium  21:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you think you could do a ce of this section according to the concerns of the 2nd comment by the last commenter on the fac? You know my transitions aren't the best. C T J F 8 3  chat 22:53, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think a copyedit is necessary there. The opposer wants you to add more general information about the history of Davenport.  The left orium  18:57, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok C T J F 8 3  chat 20:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Ohhh....
What about all the other images featured in the articles? THEY don't do very much. Rory Re  loaded  23:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Darn. Rory  Re  loaded  00:09, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What is the problem with my image? I don't get it. Rory  Re  loaded  21:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

No bot?
Do we need one to do this? Or do we have one that is malfunctioning? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Zorglbot was supposed to transclude the pages, but I've never seen it actually do it.  The left orium  14:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sigh. I'll toss it in at my existing bot requests. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! It's not the end of the world, though. It's just one little edit for me. :)  The left orium  14:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, but someday you may not be there. :) Not that I'm wishing you ill or anything. But if automated behaviors like this can be, well, automated, then it's all to the best. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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Re:Happy New Years!
I haven't been too bad. I've been busy, but I have missed working on articles (though I have had time, it's been tough getting back into my old editing patterns). As for Flaming Moes, I had been planning on working on it next week. I am also in the WikiCup and though I won't make it as far as you, I had planned on trying to get in some token offense and making the second round before withdrawing. If you're looking for articles to work on, why not the season pages? Seasons 10-14 have books, so they should be easy enough. You could also work on season 10-12 episodes, though that may be harder because the commentaries suck and the complete guide doesn't cover them. If you're looking for FAs, why not some bios? The one on Harry Shearer is particularily close and I've always meant to whip it to FA shape but never gotten around to it. I'd like to try and get our topic drives done soon, we've been close for a while now and interest in them has waned. I'll most likely retire from working on episode pages (well, aside from maintainance, updating the new ones, etc.) once we finish seasons 2 & 3, my goal was to get all the classic season episodes to GA (or higher) and amazingly, we are very close. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  00:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)