User talk:Thelightsworker

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Prenatal development
I wanted you to know that i reverted your edits on Prenatal development because your changes, especially your removal of the mention that there exists controversy with some of the terminology, should be discussed on the talk page before being made. If you want to redo your edit, please start a new section on the article talk page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note on my talk page, below.

Thanks!

-- KNHaw  (talk)  21:25, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

The need to state something is "controversial"
I had an edit removed for this reason, "I wanted you to know that i reverted your edits on Prenatal development because your changes, especially your removal of the mention that there exists controversy with some of the terminology". The section of that page is dealing with well-known facts about prenatal development. The medical and widely accepted terminology is not controversial except to a small minority of people who have extreme bias against the facts due to their philosophical position on abortion.

1. Who gets to decide that something is "controversial" and how exactly is that process objectively completed? Should we, for example, label the entire page of "Jesus Christ" as controversial since some people don't believe a historical Jesus of Nazareth existed? 2. Where are your facts to validate the claim that, "The term conception" is controversial?

If you cannot answer those questions clearly, then labeling a widely accepted term as "controversial" serves no factual purpose, but rather is serving a philosophically biased perspective, which Wiki should not do.

Furthermore, the use of the phrase "a new organism" in the context of the following sentence is both inaccurate and most like caused by bias: "The first sperm cell to successfully penetrate the egg cell donates its genetic material (DNA) to combine with the DNA of the egg cell resulting in a new organism called the zygote."

1. What kind of organism is it? Do you have a biological classification stating what kind of an organism a "zygote" is? Is it a new species of mammal or reptile or bird? The term "organism" is synonymous with "species", or at least a single organism will be of one species, so what species is the "zygote"? Homo Sapiens, not a new organism or species. 2. The existing language confuses type (human being) with newness or duration of existence (new).

To avoid this error and confusion, the sentence should say, "...resulting in the first stage of germinal human development". Thelightsworker (talk) 01:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Help me! I responded on my talk page to an edit to an article that was removed, but have had no response.
Please help me with...I had an edit removed for this reason, "I wanted you to know that i reverted your edits on Prenatal development because your changes, especially your removal of the mention that there exists controversy with some of the terminology". The section of that page is dealing with well-known facts about prenatal development. The medical and widely accepted terminology is not controversial except to a small minority of people who have extreme bias against the facts due to their philosophical position on abortion.

1. Who gets to decide that something is "controversial" and how exactly is that process objectively completed? Should we, for example, label the entire page of "Jesus Christ" as controversial since some people don't believe a historical Jesus of Nazareth existed? 2. Where are your facts to validate the claim that, "The term conception" is controversial?

If you cannot answer those questions clearly, then labeling a widely accepted term as "controversial" serves no factual purpose, but rather is serving a philosophically biased perspective, which Wiki should not do.

Furthermore, the use of the phrase "a new organism" in the context of the following sentence is both inaccurate and most like caused by bias: "The first sperm cell to successfully penetrate the egg cell donates its genetic material (DNA) to combine with the DNA of the egg cell resulting in a new organism called the zygote."

1. What kind of organism is it? Do you have a biological classification stating what kind of an organism a "zygote" is? Is it a new species of mammal or reptile or bird? The term "organism" is synonymous with "species", or at least a single organism will be of one species, so what species is the "zygote"? Homo Sapiens, not a new organism or species. 2. The existing language confuses type (human being) with newness or duration of existence (new).

To avoid this error and confusion, the sentence should say, "...resulting in the first stage of germinal human development". Thelightsworker (talk) 01:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Thelightsworker (talk) 19:22, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry but this is not an appropriate use of the help template. You are confronting a content dispute, that is, there is disagreement about what the page should say, not a question of how to edit Wikipedia. There is no higher authority you can appeal to, the content of the page is determined by consensus and if you don't feel like you are getting enough attention on the talk page of the article, you can start a request for comment or post on the talk page of one of the WikiProjects that is interested in the page.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 20:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)