User talk:Themarkofkane

T. Dan Smith article
There are a number of issues that I have had with your repeated edits to the article.

Firstly, I don't see why there is a need to state more than once that Poulson didn't design buildings in Newcastle. Especially if we don't have a source for that statement. In my revision of the article it states "Poulson did not design any buildings in Newcastle."

Secondly and more importantly, there's the wording you propose to say the later Tory-controlled council was to blame for the loss of the Royal Arcade. Such a politically-charged statement needs a reliable source to support it. Even if it's true. Anywikiuser (talk) 12:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Smith
Re Poulson How can I prove what Poulson didn't do? I can't provide evidence for something that never occurred! The nearest one of his building came to Newcastle was Peterlee. If you biwve he built anything in Newcastle, YOU provide the evidence. The claim he was responsible for "demolishing" the arcade is complety untrue. it was carefully dismantled which is it totally different kettle of fish. The succeeding council chose not to rebuild, so its loss can't be blamed on Smith. Your mention of smith's early links is extremely suggestive. There is no evidence of corruption during his time as head of Newcastle council, in fact no evidence of corruption involving Newcastle whatsoever. Themarkofkane (talk) 16:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It would be possible, if someone can find a list of buildings Poulson designed. I'm sure there is one somewhere. I'm assuming he didn't build anything in Newcastle because I can't find anything to say he did.
 * The wording about how he formed "links" to Poulson, which I did not write, implies that he became involved with Poulson gradually. I don't think it's implying that it happened while he was still council leader.
 * Also there's the issue of tone. "There is no evidence whatsoever of any corruption during his time as head of Newcastle council..." sounds like the article is going out of its way to let Smith off the hook. Anywikiuser (talk) 08:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * For now, let's deal with the wording you particularly dislike: "Smith's legacy became associated with the destruction of historic buildings in favour of unpopular concrete structures." Whether he should be or not, a lot of people have this image of him. Whether this reputation is unfair or not is debateable. I am okay with wording that points out that many of these developments involved previous and later councils too. Anywikiuser (talk) 21:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Why the royal arcade was not rebuilt
A clipping from the journal unfortunately I don't have the date but I could email you a copy should you wish "By Journal Reporter THE MINISTRY of Housing has relented over the vexed question of Newcastle's Royal Arcade. The Arcade, which would have cost the city £200,000 to rebuild, is now to be "forgotten," and the thousands of num- bered stones which were taken from it during demolition in 1966 can finally be thrown away. This news is contained in a letter from Lord Kennet, Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry to the City Council's work ing party today In place of the rebuilding of the Royal Arcade the Ministry is asking the Council to preserve three other ancient buildings in the City These are the Holy Jesus Hospital, the Keelmen's Hospital and Blackfriars. Coun. Arthur Grey, leader of the City Council, said last night that he was in favour of all three projects, and was glad that the Ministry was no longer insisting of the rebuilding of the arcade" Themarkofkane (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Please email it to me. It can be deduced that this would have been at some point in 1968-70. Anywikiuser (talk) 08:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Royal arcade numbered
Furthermore I am more than happy to provide you with a photograph of the royal Arcade covered in numbers to enable it to be rebuilt. It was not demolished by Smith. It was dismantled. Themarkofkane (talk) 16:15, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it would fit on any existing articles, but feel free to upload it. The John Dobson (architect) article could do with a picture of the building when it was still standing. Anywikiuser (talk) 08:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Smith
What's you're email? Themarkofkane (talk) 15:46, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Go to my user page. On the left-hand navigation menu, there should be an 'Email this user' link. This saves me from having to disclose my email address. See Emailing users for instructions. Anywikiuser (talk) 21:33, 22 October 2019 (UTC)