User talk:ThenPandyan

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Hello, ThenPandyan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! - Sitush (talk) 00:10, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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Martial Races book
Thanks for your recent contributions. Unfortunately., the Martial Races book authored by Tyagi, and which you have used as a source at Paravar, is hopelessly unreliable. It is published by Gyan, who are a known WP:Mirror of English Wikipedia and appear also to generally publish plagiarised works, often repetitively under the names of various authors.

The general Gyan issue and the specific instance of Tyagi's book have been referred to on countless occasions. I do understand that you may be unaware of this but it is a clear failure to meet the standards expected by the reliable sources policy. For this reason I have reverted that particular edit. Feel free to respond if you disagree. - Sitush (talk) 00:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Original research/unsourced
Per the conversation at User_talk:115.184.49.207, I have had a think and still believe that we need to provide sources for the information regarding the various classifications - Forward class, OBC etc. For this reason I have removed your contributions.

The article is not wrong as it stands because it clearly states that the classification referred to is a consequence of the TN govt's position in 1979. What ever another government thought of it, or what ever applied at other times, is of course relevant but only if it can be verifiable. In particular, the forward class issue appears to be almost impossible to verify because a community is FC by default (ie: if it is not listed as MNC, OBC etc then it must be FC even though there is no list of FCs).

It is a tricky situation and I do encourage you to find something substantive to support your statements. The point you made is interesting but needs bolstering. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 11:26, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Sitush,

Its a known fact that can be checked through OBC list govt of india and definitely this is not original research.

This article has got very wrong references and incorrect facts about conversion hitting at the basic foundation of nuetral point of view of wikipedia

1.The AGREEMENT of conversion was between the Head of paravas and the king of portugal through the portugese governor in india which was mediated initially through a chitty merchant of quilon.The Paravas announced to be under the crown of portugal post conversion to christianity.The paravas happened to shell out 60,000 fanam as protectiom money to portugese.

2.Francis Xavier arrived in gulf of mannar almost after 8 to 10 years of conversion to make the conversion stronger so that this people should not fall back to hinduism

By the way there are some caste groups claiming to be descendants of chera,chola and pandya in wikipedia without any verifiable proof of any sort you seem to be so silent about these articles. ThanksThenPandyan (talk) 20:11, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:Other stuff exists; it is impossible for any one person to be held accountable for all of a class of poorly-written articles. If you see uncited claims, by all means mark them with, and should a few weeks pass with nobody providing cites, remove the material and explain it in the edit summary as "removing uncited and tagged material after X weeks". If you are not comfortable doing this yourself, you can also make a list of your concerns and present it at Noticeboard for India-related topics. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:56, 28 September 2011 (UTC)