User talk:TheoatCPMESecretariat

August 2014
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Standing Committee of European Doctors has been reverted. Your edit here to Standing Committee of European Doctors was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (https://twitter.com/CPME_EUROPA) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, fansite, or similar site (see 'Links to avoid', #11), then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest). If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 13:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

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September 2017
Your addition to Standing Committee of European Doctors has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 13:10, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Standing Committee of European Doctors. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 13:11, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * Based upon your username, it seems likely you are not just some random editor attempting to improve the article although I haven't worked out the exact meaning of your username.


 * It is not uncommon for an editor to coordinate with the copyright holder of some material and arrange for permission to use the text. I don't know if that's the situation here. However, it is not enough to get permission to use the text, a formal permission statement from the copyright holder must be filed with OTRS. Let me know if this is what's going on and we can talk further on what's needed. If that isn't the situation, please be aware that Wikipedia respects copyright, and you cannot simply include copyrighted material.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  13:39, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello, this is the account of the organisation so I do not think there is an issue with copyrighted material. As for the changes that I made, they are updates because the info that is on that page currently is outdated, plus I believe it needs some general improvements because it seems neglected.
 * Well Wikipedia is not copyrighted. Below the edit box it says By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 Licence and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons licence. Therefore you agree to release copyrighted material under a licence that is copyleft. My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 14:39, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * What about the rest of the changes that were made? I do not understand why they were reverted because the ones that are on the wiki page now are not valid anymore? CPMESecretariat (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2017 (UTC)CPMESecretariat
 * I'm not sure what other changes you are speaking of. I'm talking of the changes that removed. Nonetheless, there are two issues here. I've reported your name to usernames for administrator attention, because it violates WP:ISU, a policy which states that usernames must not represent a group of people (even if one person is only editing) and also you have a conflict of interest. Conflict of interest editors must not edit pages that they have a relation with directly. They must request edits on the talk page of the article. Since you are happy to engage in a dialogue, I'm happy to show you the way to renaming your account -- preferably something like XXXXXatCPMESecretariat, so it identifies your conflict of interest. Only one person may edit on this account. So, anyway, the link to do it is here. My name is not dave  (talk/contribs) 14:56, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:UAA report removed, as long as you swiftly file a rename request. My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 15:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks, i submitted a rename request. As for the other changes, they were updates to the page since old info wasn't accurate so I dont understand why that was the case. Thanks for your quick replies btw.
 * Right, that's you out of the way from getting blocked. You need to go onto the talk page, create a new section, enter and show what changes you want to make. They must be reliably sourced with none of the copyright problems as before. Someone should get to you, might be a wait, if it takes longer than a few days I'll do it. My name is <small style="color:#4000FF">not <sup style="color:#093">dave  (talk/contribs) 15:27, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Also I want to make sure that you are not getting WP:PAID for your edits. Can you confirm that? <sup style="color:#093">My name is <small style="color:#4000FF">not <sup style="color:#093">dave (talk/contribs) 15:30, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

When you say "this is the account to the organization" you raise a couple issues. First, we have no such concept as accounts been associated with organizations. All accounts are intended to be personal while it is not uncommon for an organization to misunderstand this and set up a general account to be used by multiple people, that is not permitted. If you, the person, using this account are associated with the organization then you have a conflict of interest and you should not be directly editing the article. There is a way to propose changes in such situations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_COI_request

I disagree with the statement made by. Wikipedia most definitely is copyrighted. It is copyrighted under a very free license under which anyone can use it as long as they provide attribution but it is still copyrighted; it is not public domain. There is a problem with copyright, even if you are associated with the organization. As I mentioned earlier, you shouldn't be directly editing the article, but independent editors are not permitted to use copyrighted material even with the permission of the organization, unless that permission is filed appropriately with OTRS.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:58, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, technically speaking then. <sup style="color:#093">My name is <small style="color:#4000FF">not <sup style="color:#093">dave (talk/contribs) 19:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Fair enough however the information that I want to update is not subjective. If you can see the first changes that I had made, they were updates to the members list because the ones that appear on the page now are from over 5 years ago. Maybe I should have provided better information onto why these changes were made and reference them to show that. Generally the entire page is in need of an update with purely objective information and I do not think that if I do it, or tell my brother to do it (who is unrelated to this organization) it would make difference.
 * If i make the changes again and reference them properly to show that they are true, is that okay with you? Thank you for your responses.