User talk:Theonlyzarni

Blanking Pages
RE: your blanking of Hintha's User-page:

Please do not remove content from Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. WilliamThweatt 01:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC) OK will keep that in mind little Willy. All the best
 * [[Image:Stop hand.svg|left|30px]] Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thank you.  Hintha 02:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ladies I'm sorry, I just wanted be one of the cool Wiki-kids gang, you guys gotta rep around town. Well I guess censorship is alive and well on your encyclopedia. I was just correcting some pages where information that could be interepted as malicious liable was spread. I'm super excited we can come to some understanding. Hintha when I looked at your page I thought that you must go to visit Burma at times, you're a half right? you must still have family there and stuff that must be cool to be able to hang out with them. So where do you live then? I'm not familiar with UTC, only GMT. I'm guessing America, must be nice there. Is there a better Wiki-talk function? you cool kids must hang around some alleys in cyberspace.

Personal attacks
Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. --WilliamThweatt 01:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Your vandalism of my question only makes me believe that my days contributing are numbered, I believe that I have found 1 of your lies (1 of many) and due to the fact that you are a moderator on Wikipedia, I will be silenced. If you have nothing to hide, then let me speak, this is not a personal attack, far from it, it is a defence of the truth.... something you may have trouble understanding. I would be happy to discuss it appropriately, if only truth were given the forum I would talk freely, though I fear I will be silenced before I am allowed to ask questions Theonlyzarni 01:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)]

"AS MANY USER PAGES AS I CAN"
No, it's not vandalism, it's WP:SPAM: please desist. I've no idea what the nature of your dispute is, and am none the wiser after your message, but if you have a problem with another user, see the steps in dispute resolution, and follow up in a sequential fashion, rather than trying to drag other people in at random. Please also note that excessive use of all-caps is often seen as unaesthetic, and even aggressive, by other Wikipedians. Alai 02:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, if you have a WP:NPOV dispute, you might want to file an article-content WP:RFC, to get input from editors interested in related areas; or else if there's a noticeboard or WikiProject in similar area, ask for inout there.  (In a sequential manner, rather than several all at once.)  If you've difficulties of another sort, try and ask for help in as focused help as possible, but if all else fails, try the village pump, or put helpme on your page.  A lot of this is covered in the standard welcome message, actually, so I'll append that, even if it's somewhat belated at this stage.  Btw, can you fix the link in your signature?  The three ['s, rather than two, at the start seem to be disabling the link entirely.  Thanks.  Alai 02:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If you believe that Ne Win's ancestry was misconstrued, and that his Chinese ancestry is a conspiracy, please cite your sources. Non-verified information is not permitted on Wikipedia. And, if you can find a source that clearly states that Ne Win was "Bamar"/"Burman" (Burmese is a nationality — all persons residing in Myanmar regardless of race are "Burmese"), please cite it. This is not a matter of censorship. Hintha 04:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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RE: Blocking, Unblocking, [WilliamThweatt] and his abuse of the situation & vandalism. I was wrong to 'delete' some of Hintha's page, however this was only done in response to his continued editing of the Ne Win page, instead of adding a discussion idea as a discussion idea, he added it as truth, which I did not believe Wikipedia was about. In my ignorance, I believed the conflict could be sorted by deleting his page to show him that he couldn't just start making up the truth. I have since apologised on his user page and even am trying to talk past the issue. If this of course is an unforgivable crime on Wikipedia then there's nothing more I can say or do. With regards to [WilliamThweatt] I began by asking him a simple question, maybe I placed it in the wrong area, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AWilliamThweatt&diff=63712239&oldid=63709139 I told him I hoped it was not in the wrong place and it was not vandalism. He deleted it, and I asked again, and he deleted it. I believe that it was a fair question to ask of someone with a 'ranking' on wikipedia. I did not realise it was 'illegal' to ask a question, which was all I did. I felt that due to his experience and position [WilliamThweatt] (no matter how much good he has done before) was abusing the situation of me being new. He started placing threat warnings on my page as can be seen above, there was no personal attack only the question. Read the question "Is there any question of your Khmer language ability? I don't actually believe your level to be such. Is there a standardised test to prove your claim?" Is that a personal attack? I am asking about his language ability. He used his position to say this was a personal attack and threaten to silence me, how ironic I am now silenced. So in response to this threat, as a newbie I did not know what to do, I started discussing the issue on [WilliamThweatt]'s page then realised that he will block me for trying to 'uncover' him, so I paniced and started writing in CAPS, only to get attention. When someone feels like they need help and shouts, do you a) tell them to shut up because its disturbing your peace and quiet and ban them from your ear shot or do you b) listen to what they have to say no matter how much it disturbs your quiet to see if there is just reason. So those were the choices, I got banned because I shouted for help against someone with power and authority. I only read the conflict resolution guide too late to help me. I realise I went about conflict resolution in the wrong way, but I believe that this issue I have raised is of considerable concern to many Wikipedians. Yes I admit I have had some bad edits, but I ultimately resolved the issue with Hintha and the Ne Win page is fine. I made a mistake by deleting his page, but I only got the warning after all the events, so they should be viewed as 1 collective issue, not separate vandalism issues. If I got warned after the 1st one that is different. RE: Spam issues like I said earlier it was not meant as Spam, and I apologised. I was only trying to spread information, which is what Wikipedia is about after all. The information is relavent and should not been seen as a vandalism, spam issue. If the point about WilliamThweatt was raised by someone with authority I'm sure there would be a different outcome, so please don't assess it as 'ramblings of a newbie' assess it on your own and come to an answer. So this is my case for unblocking, I feel certainly that I was wrong and I tried to make up for my mistakes. But also I have been victimised since I am a newbie. Please write what you think and spread the word since I am blocked. [User:Theonlyzarni|zarni] 12:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)]


 * You haven't been "victimized" because you're a newbie. You made a mistake--actually, I would go further and say you acted like a complete idiot--and so there are consequences. I would spend a few days carefully reading those pages Alai linked to and some other Wikipedia pages, and trying to absorb some of the culture here. I went through the history of your edits amd you are basically wrong on all the counts you raise above. You had a little content disgareement with someone; that someone asked for sources and supplied sources of his own, which his how things are done here; you lost it and started spamming user pages, making wild accusations about censorship and Nazis and generally being a bonehead. You screwed up; admit it, learn from it and move on.
 * I have taken the liberty of fixing your unblock template for you--it should be lowercase. Good luck, but realize you are on thin ice if you do this kind of thing again.  &middot; rodii &middot;  15:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

"You are basically wrong on all the counts you raise above"... on this point I would have to say that surely you must understand that someone stating that something is the case is not necessarily correct, there are sometimes 2 or more sides to a topic. "You had a little content disgareement with someone;" On that point, I am sure Burma and its history is a little point to some people but to others it is a larger point. For example 9/11 was a major incident to me, but to others it was nothing. Just because a country and it's history does not matter to you, do not say it is insignificant. "....that someone asked for sources and supplied sources of his own, which his how things are done here; you lost it and started spamming user pages, making wild accusations about censorship and Nazis and generally being a bonehead." I did not loose it because sources were supplied, in fact while editing the current edition of the Ne Win page, sources are quite well linked to the text in a manner that states both cases which is how I thought "things are done here". I have apologised for 'spamming' user pages, and the wild accusations were aimed at someone who was deleting questions, which I viewed as censorship. I am not sure on the exact definition of "bonehead", I shall search the wikipedia dictionary. I have admitted that I made mistakes many times in response to "You screwed up; admit it, learn from it and move on." I am not sure what else I can do? On the point of moving on, does that mean I should keep the questions to myself if I know whats good for me? Thank you for fixing my 'unblocking' text, much appreciated. Do you think my asking WilliamThweatt a question was a personal attack? Enough to merit a warning about being blocked? because that is what started the situation where I feared I was being victimised in an attempt to silence me. Just a question a 'Mr A Hitler' has left a discussion message on the Ne Win page, do you think that someone obviously using the name of a man who did some evil acts should be allowed to continue? How about if he were do go onto the Jewish discussion page and not write anything offensive, but just write. Would that not seem a problem to you? (zarni 17:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC))


 * You should read Sockpuppetry and Assume good faith and No personal attacks thoroughly (and more importantly, understand them) before you continue trying to defend yourself. What "started the situation", as you put it, was this particularly viscious personal attack on Wagaung (for which, you have yet to answer, by the way).  You were warned three times by various users above over a period of 48 hrs that you had been violating WP policies.  You were also warned under IP address User talk:82.35.61.180 three different times.  And it is pretty transparent that you are further violating Wikipedia policy by trying to circumvent your user block in creating the sockpuppet account User:A Hitler to continue your non-constructive techniques.


 * As for your issue with me, it only started after I reverted your blanking of Hinta's User page. The Wikipedia community is built around the mutual assumption of good faith, an official policy on Wikipedia that demands editors accept other's contributions and statements as being in good faith until/unless they prove otherwise (ie, by repeatedly violating WP policies).  Your "question" not only didn't assume the good faith of my statement of qualifications, but was retribution for my reverting your blanking of content.  As such, it was removed for the personal attack that it was.


 * Furthermore, I am neither required nor expected to "prove" to you or anybody else here my qualifications. I have a bachelor's degree in Comparative Linguistics and one in Political Science.  I received my first Master's Degree in Comparative Linguistics years ago and am currently preparing my thesis for a Master's in International Relations.  I have spoke Khmer for over 20 years.  I have lived in Battambang and did my Master's research on the Northern Khmer dialect (in which I am also natively fluent) in Surin and Srisaket Provinces of Thailand.  Here in California, in addition to Upper Division and Graduate classes in Linguistics, I teach Khmer to children of Khmer refugees.  As for "proof", my work on all the articles related to Khmer language, dialects, scripts, people, history and culture will speak for itself....which also how things are done here on WP.  Your edits speak for your qualifications....and your's have spoken loudly.--WilliamThweatt 18:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * RE: A Hitler
 * Why would I create an account to respond negatively to my comments? I'm sure it can be shown that the IP of that user is in a different country/region to clear my name. Your accusation is just plain stupid. Don't start pinning everything to me, it just doesn't reflect well on you. This is an important point to make that A Hitler is nothing to do with me, do some research before you start throwing around accusations.


 * You've probably realized by now that I never do anything without extensive research. After researching I came to the conclusion that [User:A Hitler|A Hitler] was an obvious sockpuppet.  (And, FYI, creating an account to respond negatively or argue with oneself is a common reason for sockpuppetry and even has a name, the "Strawman Sockpuppet"...but if you would have read Sockpuppetry as I suggested you would have known that.)  And apparently I'm not the only one to whom it was obvious as A Hitler has already been identified as a suspected Sockpuppet and indefinately blocked by other users.  And, by the way, I'm not an admin, I have no more, or no less, "power" here than you.--WilliamThweatt 19:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * What research did you do? you assumed, if thats reserch then I'm sure all you've researched is great. You are still assuming and accusing. You are the only attacking me on the sockpuppet thing, why? I think others realise that a)it's just plain stupid. b)there's no evidence. c)it's just plain stupid. So I would ask admin to come and back me up on this, they know I'm right and you're wrong, it's as simple as that. Why would I read sockpuppet rules and straw stuff? its nothing to do with me. So please explain your "extensive research" I know you're all looking to boot me off here, but other moderators, just ask Williamthweatt about the extensive research and his continued personal attacks. There's either rules for everybody, or it's just not right.

What is the "continued incivil behaiviour"? as stated above? and also is there going to be a response to the personal attacks by WilliamThweatt? There is no point me addressing issues if they are going to be ignored. This is not an unblock request talk, there is never an issue of unblocking.... you've all had your plans from day 1. So am I being victimised, I guess we'll never get a response.


 * I believe this user is aware of his/her vandalism. Using the IP address 82.35.61.180; he/she added to my Wikicommons page the following:
 * Hintha is an English vulgarism that refers to the human female genitalia. The word is considered by some to be extremely offensive, and by others to be merely vulgar. Pussy or Snatch are considered less offensive, though still vulgar, substitutes. The Latin words vagina and vulva are considered to be much more polite. Vagina is commonly used as a replacement for cunt, though strictly speaking it refers only to part of the internal female genitalia, unlike the less commonly used vulva, which refers to the externally visible genitals. Cunt encompasses both.


 * English lacks them, but other languages have non-vulgar words for the anatomy denoted by hintha. The Sanskrit yoni is an example. The Latin pudendum is also such a word, but it seems to be little used. According to many dictionaries, it is often used in the plural (pudenda), and can also apply to male genitalia. Its sense is "private part or parts, especially female." Other polite but nonspecific English words, usually spoken by children or their parents, are thing, or pee pee, etc.


 * Hintha is often used to refer to persons, both male and female, usually in a non-specific derogatory sense: "John (or Jane) is such a hintha." When used in this way, the word is a form of synecdoche, a common figure of speech in which a part is used to refer to the whole. In some places the word is used to refer to inanimate objects.


 * The earliest citation of the anatomical form of the word in the Oxford English Dictionary is a reference to the London street name "Gropecunt Lane" dated to about 1230. The earliest citation of the word applied to a person as a term of vulgar abuse is from 1929.
 * --Hintha 21:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Unblock request
I'm not inclined to grant this, at least until such time as the user more realistically addresses the underlying reasons, summed up fairly well here. In particular, the lack of any actual useful contributions whatsoever, and this sort of completely uncalled-for personal attack. I'll leave the request in place in case anyone is of a different view. Alai 18:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

To be fair I have only contributed to 1 article and believe that the change is for the better. Alai surely you can understand the difference between publishing only 1 side of the story? That is 1 underlying issue you must understand. The rest I will answer when I have spare time. I just wanted to write a response to the sock puppet idea, because reading that almost made me 'loose it' that now everybody with some authority is trying to 'ride' me. WilliamThweatt, your Khmer looks good, was just trying to start up a conversation with you before you started getting all high and mighty, I guess I will try to befriend less wound up people. "I am neither required nor expected to "prove" to you or anybody else here my qualifications" but thanks anyway, I'm sure people believed you before. Anyway before I go, 1 point. Surely WilliamThweatt throwing around accusations of sockpuppets has only show that we are all human and make mistakes. If I am to be punished, then surely he is also at fault for a personal attack? I know he is attacking the most unpopular man on Wikipedia, but surely it is still an attack? Thanks for your precious time, I will get back to you on some of the further points. (zarni 19:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC))

Alai, thank you for your time to write, I'm sure you're busy and all, but do you have no response to the above? Do you not believe there is a difference between stating a 'fact' and discussing an 'idea'?

With no answers form Alai or WilliamThweatt I guess the person asking tough questions will be hidden away and silenced. "Heil Wikipedia" maybe the grand plan is to burn all books and real sources of information and have a group of moderators choosing what information they want represented. (zarni 11:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC))

You're hilarious
Just a heads up. Keep up the good work. --NEMT 22:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand why you request for unblocking
Registering a new account is much easier,I think. Well,may be you don't want to lose your name.

By the way,as for Ne Win's case,I agree with you.I heard that he is 100% Myanmar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yin May Lwin (talk • contribs) 06:00, 20 March 2015 (UTC)