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The Psychology Wiki
Hey there, I noticed that you are interesting in Psychology and thought this might interest you...

We are working hard on the Psychology Wiki and are trying to raise awareness about it by indiscriminately spamming telling as many interested people about it as we can. We have an enormous amount of articles already, mainly copied from Wikipedia at the moment:( but the eventual aim is that it will be edited by professional and student contributors, as well as including personal experiences of users of psychology services. As such it will eventaully be a very different beast to the kind of content that Wikipedia has. Have a look at my nicely new designed Main Page, or leave a message on the talk page or on my Psychology Wiki talk page.  Hope to hear from you :) Mostly Zen 02:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Bypass WikiProject Psychology userbox redirect
I forgot to update the WP:AWB edit note when I bypassed the WikiProject Psychology userbox redirect. Sorry for any confusion. Rfrisbietalk 22:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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OrphanBot is broke!
It's no worky =(

-therearenospoons 00:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Update

 * Correction & Update, all screenshots I have uploaded thus far to List_of_The_Pretender_episodes today, it has tagged. I'm having to waste my time now to remove those tags. Thanks -therearenospoons 02:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

OrphanBot Defective
Your bot flagged my license tagged upload as without a license...twice so far! -therearenospoons 00:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The bot is working just fine. If you read the tag, you'll see that it was tagged for not having source information -- that is, a statement saying where you got the image from and who the copyright holder is. --Carnildo 02:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Fair use debate regarding television screencaps
Currently, there is a debate on Talk:List of Lost episodes regarding whether or not use of a 1/30th stillframe visual excerpt next to a list of audiovisual works (such as List of Lost episodes or List of Stargate Atlantis episodes) is in accordance with WP:Fair use, and has even resulted in the protection of the page.

If you have any opinions regarding fair use on the List of Lost episodes page, please feel free to express them as I believe these two pages are sister projects.

Cws125 05:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Future reference
A screenshot from the science fiction television series Stargate Atlantis.

Rationale for fair use in List of Stargate Atlantis episodes
This picture is being used in Wikipedia's episode listing for the television show Stargate Atlantis (MGM). Although it is subject to copyright, the editors of Wikipedia, among them myself in particular, feel that it is covered by US fair use laws because: Further, we believe our use of the image is fair because it is not being used merely to decorate the related article, but rather: Particularly because:
 * It is a low resolution still image;
 * It does not limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the related product in any way
 * Aids commentary on the plot outline;
 * Poignantly illustrates the related episode
 * It illustrates the significant moment which characterises the episode in question.

"Change the last line ('...significant moment which...') as appropriate for the episode, and why you've chosen that image."

REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Stargate_SG-1_episodes#style_guide REF2: Updated Licensing to Style Guide Featured List standards. therearenospoons 05:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Correct Naming?
Just a question (thanks for the template for the images btw), what do you mean with correct naming? I name the screenshots like they were named the last seasons and as I think it's far easier to keep track if they are named with season and episode number. Or is there a concensus on the naming of screenshots which I am not aware of? --SoWhy Talk 12:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: Correct naming
Welcome :) If you look back at last season and also all the way up to the first pilot episode all the images are named with the 'Episode Title' followed by (Stargate Atlantis) and the file extension.  I uploaded all of the second half of Season 2 (which before then I checked to make sure I was following what seemed to have been established), and I also checked every single one of them yesterday because I was updating the licenses to follow suit with the SG-1 Featured List style guide :)  To my knowledge it's not written anywhere (no that I have thoroughly investigated it as far as to look for any fine print, since I was satisfied with seeing how all the others were named such and I did not notice any inconsistencies). Just a thought :)

Also in the template code where it has (SoWhy) you can use instead and it will put your name in there ;) -therearenospoons 22:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Stargate Atlantis 3x04
RE: "rp - prev. has no source & author info + cap already at Sateda article." Just for the record, there is a source and author, if you would read the Rationale. Furthermore, my screenshot was there first with a post tag of 00:56, 5 August 2006 and yours was 07:08, 5 August 2006. On top of that, you broke the established Licensing Standard convention. Your also not supposed to insert screenshots on the individual episode pages. Insertion into the main article, automatically causes the image to be inserted into the individual episode template. This page clearly shows that my image was there before yours, so your reasoning is not justified by saying that it was "already at Sateda article." I'm reverting the change. -therearenospoons 19:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image
I recognise no policy + Your image had no source. Matthew  Fenton ( contribs ) 19:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * PS: Mine is superior to yours in that it is smaller and shows a key moment in the episode. (PSS: Please do not be offended i changed your image ;-)) Matthew  Fenton  ( contribs ) 19:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * PSSS: It still does not establish a source. Matthew  Fenton  ( contribs ) 19:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

RTA: Rationale. If you read it, you would have seen it. -therearenospoons 19:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: PS: If you think so then why didn't you state it instead of stating some blatant lie about it not being there. Say what you mean, and not do what you do not say. Lies have no basis. RE: PSSS:  I disagree. It couldn't be anymore clearer. If you look at all the Stargate SG-1 screenshots, you will see that none go out and state that. The fact that SG-1 is a Featured List article proves that it is necessary and sufficient. All Stargate Atlantis episodes as well as Stargate SG-1 episode screenshots have the same exact licensing except with appropriate references to their article. For you to go out and change it, you are changing the established convention, therefore making the entire article inconsistent. -therearenospoons 20:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at Satedas history, there was no image there when i edited. Matthew  Fenton  ( contribs ) 20:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sateda_%28Stargate_Atlantis%29&diff=67816618&oldid=67771733 What is this then? ] and this: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5026/proofll9.jpg -therearenospoons 20:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That is the SGA intro image, you must not have much idea on how wiki works. When you edit "List of.." etc, the image doesnt automaticly get placed in the episode article. Matthew <b style="color:#3366ff;"> Fenton  (</b> contribs <b style="color:#3366ff;">)</b> 20:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Meh, my bad there about the proof. I've been editing articles for several years now. I did the last half of Season 2, and never once did I have to go into the individual article to change the image. Do the next episode, but do it from the List of Stargate Atlantis episodes and you will see. Ask anyone of the other editors who have uploaded Stargate screenshots and you will see their response. It does not make sense to have to edit in two places, and that is why there is an episode template.

If you wish to change it for that reason, change it, but state that you believe it "shows a key moment in the episode" and not some for "has no source & author info + cap already at Sateda article." I'm fine with that as long as it's truthful :) but don't go trying to give others a bad name by not checking the histories :( -therearenospoons 20:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Also look here as an example. You do not see my name in the edit history anywhere, but you do see the screenshot. How did it appear? It can only appear from pulling from the List of Stargate Atlantis episodes. I rest my case. -therearenospoons 20:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That page was started after the episode aired, the screenshot was already here. It was created with the screenshot. Matthew <b style="color:#3366ff;"> Fenton  (</b> contribs <b style="color:#3366ff;">)</b> 20:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * PS: Look at edits as well, notice how image names are hardcoded? Matthew <b style="color:#3366ff;"> Fenton  (</b> contribs <b style="color:#3366ff;">)</b> 20:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I still stand by the episode template pulling from the List of...The only reason why it did not do it now, is because it already has the episode title in there. I'm not going to waste your time or my time any longer trying to find that it pulls from the List of...automatically. If you want to test it, remove the image from a future episode. Just leave it blank. Then go to the List of...and add your new image (replacing the title). Then go back to the episode, and it would have appeared. I have seen this many times already, so I'm not going to have to try and prove it. So with that in mind, have a good weekend :) -therearenospoons 20:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

The Descent Group Photo
In this photo you uploaded http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Descent_group_photo.jpg

it seems as if the photo was taken from a pirated version (telesync, cam) of the movie. I'm wondering if this is allowed on Wikipedia, especially since it breaches copyrights. Thanks.--John Cho 00:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Try: 2.35 Anamorphic Wide Screen:1 -therearenospoons 02:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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