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AN/I
I aghree with your close, FWIW.  DGG ( talk ) 21:44, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you - hopefully this one element of the dispute between ST and others can be left alone -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 08:49, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * So they'll be delivered here? Thank you :) I admit I didn't really think about all that when I renamed -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 08:50, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * When I was renamed last year, I still received mass messages, but it was because my old username's talk page redirected to my new one. Some of those newsletter lists just had a typo in your name and the other ones didn't work because User talk:Samtar contains Category:Opted-out of message delivery and is not a redirect. — MRD 20  14  12:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #268
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Upcoming: Africa Open Data Conference in Accra, including a Wikidata editathon on July 17th
 * Past: Celtic Knot Conference, Edinburgh, including several presentations related to Wikidata (tweets about Wikidata during the conference)
 * Past: WikiWomenCamp (including a Wikidata presentation by Harmonia Amanda)
 * A visual exploration of musical bands on Wikidata, by RAW Graphs team


 * WikidataCon
 * Last days of the scholarship process! If you need to be funded for the WikidataCon, please fill the form before July 16th
 * Which discussions, workshops, demos should be covered during the WikidataCon?


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * We have some real Meta data!
 * The StrepHit team has submitted an official uplift proposal for the primary sources tool
 * Migration of constraint definitions to property statements around July 12th
 * Sitelinks for the new Atikamekw Wikipedia (atjwiki) can be added
 * Citation management tool Zotero can now read data from Wikidata, and can write data from other sources to Wikidata via QuickStatements. See Wikidata:Zotero for details.
 * New step towards structured data for Commons is now available
 * One week after Q31000000 we have Q32000000


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: PalDat plant ID, openAIP ID, Ontario Heritage Act Register ID, NLS Geographic Names Place ID, NLS-FI Geographic Name ID, National Record of the Historic Environment ID, JewAge person ID, INSPIRE ID, ADK member ID, FRED time-series ID, danskfilmogtv person, danskefilm TV Christmas calendar, Crunchyroll ID, URN-NBN, Gedbas genealogy person ID, Framalibre ID, Finnish archaeological heritage ID, EGF rating, Carnegie Hall agent ID, assets under management, Atlas of Hillforts ID, dissertation submitted to


 * Query examples:
 * Scientific articles from PubMed that mention what version of STATA was used (source)
 * 1000 places in UK that have no label in Welsh (source)
 * Wikivoyage banners for French municipalities (source)
 * Paintings with musical instruments from Spain or related to Spain (source)
 * Images of things or persons in Wikidata with a Github account (source)
 * [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fperson%20%3FpersonLabel%20%0A%28SAMPLE%28%3Fbirth_date%29%20as%20%3Fbirth_date%29%20%0A%28SAMPLE%28%3Fdeath_date%20%29%20as%20%3Fdeath_date%20%29%20%0A%28SAMPLE%28%3Fbirth_place_label%20%29%20as%20%3Fbirth_place_label%20%29%20%0A%28SAMPLE%28%3Fbirth_place_coords%20%29%20as%20%3Fbirth_place_coords%20%29%20%0A%28SAMPLE%28%3Fimage%20%29%20as%20%3Fimage%20%29%20%0A%28SAMPLE%28%3Fcountry%20%29%20as%20%3Fcountry%29%20%0A%28COUNT%28%3Farticle%29%20as%20%3Frank%29%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%09%20%0A%20%20%09%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP69%20wd%3AQ160302%20.%0A%09%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%20%20%09%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ6581072%20.%0A%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fimage%20%7D%0A%20%20%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fimage%20%7D%0A%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP569%20%3Fbirth_date%20%7D%0A%20%20%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP27%20%3FcountryItem%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FcountryItem%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3Fcountry%20filter%20%28lang%28%3Fcountry%29%20%3D%20%22en%22%29%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP19%20%3Fbirth_place%20.%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fbirth_place%20wdt%3AP625%20%3Fbirth_place_coords%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fbirth_place%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3Fbirth_place_label%20filter%20%28%20lang%28%3Fbirth_place_label%29%20%3D%20%22en%22%20%29%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Fperson%20wdt%3AP570%20%3Fdeath_date%20%7D%20%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Farticle%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fperson%7D%20%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%0A%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7Bbd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%0A%7D%0A%0A%20%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fperson%20%3FpersonLabel%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Frank%29 Map of birthplaces of women who were educated in Edinburgh university] (source)
 * Newest database reports: reports with items that only have a P641-statement (sport)


 * Development
 * Search results will not only show labels but also descriptions with language fallbacks (362215). Thanks to Matěj Suchánek!
 * Fixed link to the file description page in the Image Header gadget (T169558)
 * Forms of the Lexeme are multi-variant (T165575)
 * Preparing a demonstration of referencing Forms and Sense of a Lexeme in statements (T169716)
 * Property constraint definitions will be migrated to statements (T169647, Project chat)
 * Implemented “Format” constraint (T102752, help page)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Suggested and open tasks!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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This Month in GLAM: June 2017
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! That means a lot Out of interest, are you on IRC at the moment as SophSwampert?  -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 20:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's me. Couldn't fit my whole username in so I had to shorten it. SophisticatedSwampert let's talk about that 20:48, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Nick Crompton
I think the page is ready to go back to protection. I've been noticing an increase in vandalism and hoax information since I initially sent the request to WP:RPP. I did not send a request now, but since I remember you have the page on your Watchlist, I thought I'd let you now what's going on. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 16:49, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Popped 1 week semi-protection on there, thanks for the prod  -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 18:02, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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Beginings of incivlity
Sorry to come to you again. I do not like doing this but I also do not want this to escalate or for others to think it is acceptable. It may seem minor, but it is uncivil and is not in the tone of good faith editing, it is an attempt to attack the user (myself here) to shut me down from commenting further, and if I respond directly on the page i look petty and childish. Where as this is a bully tactic to shut the discussion down, as it would be favourable to that user. The diff in question is here.

I am coming to you as I have learned not to rise to the bait but instead call it out with someone who can shut it down, without engaging in activities that could lead to one both or multiple editors being in hot water. I also come to you as you and I have been in this sphere before and you are even handed and highly competent in this matters. Sport and politics (talk) 13:45, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; but I think it's a hyperbole of a high water- or at least somewhat of an exageration- to describe that comment as any of the things you did :)  &mdash;  fortuna  velut luna  13:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * This is not really hyperbole, if you read the comment, it is designed to simply say stop now you are being a petty idiot, do it my way you are just a winger. Not really civil or conducive to inclusive good faith editing, as it is nothing more than an attempt to shut the conversation down in a way which is favourable to that user. The definition of not building a consensus. Sport and politics (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * It is also a classic tactic of WP:Own to prevent change is to a page which they dislike. This is a real issue on the pages in discussion, due to the limited number of editors, and the vested interest of being a club supporter, or football follower. It seems difficult to pull up the Three editors and the specific editors in question as owners, without being accused of being uncivil and making accusations. I do not think any of them are behaving in an owning manner overtly or actively but are doing so passively, and are preventing all edits which they dislike, this needs to be tackled, but any reporting of it made, is difficult. Sport and politics (talk) 13:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Well. To be fair to TNT- who, as we know, has very little Time :)  -if an issue covers multiple pages, multiple issues, and multiple editors, wouldn't you be better off at a noticeboard? -> more eyes on the issues form those who aren't football fans, for example, who can maintain distance between themselves and the subject. Just UMHO of course. Well, perhaps more in the way of suggestion really. &mdash;  fortuna  velut luna  14:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Goodness me, this whole thing is becoming a real nightmare! Regarding that diff, it was unkind but something which is just the product of emotions getting a little high and editors not keeping cool. I can see the discussion is continuing, so I'd ask that you currently keep discussing the issue in a civil way, and see if it can come to a natural conclusion without any administrative input. Just bear in mind that consensus may be against you on this point, and if it is you will need to accept it -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 07:08, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

NSEL Case Page
There’sNoTime This is to do with NSEL case page you had previously blocked because of edit wars. I’m trying to make the page as neutral as possible to the best of my abilities. I feel there is a lot of distortion on the page and had raised an edit request for the same. With every edit I have given a valid reason and kept in line with Wikipedia protocols. Going forward I do not want to be part of edit wars, please suggest best way out as my edits are being reverted. Anrdshr (talk) 10:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

There’sNoTime The page has been blocked again. Please suggest what do I do. Thank you Anrdshr (talk) 11:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I've locked the page so everyone has a chance of making edit requests and gaining consensus. Have a look at these pages -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 12:15, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #269
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 
 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Past: talk about Wikidata at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing by Lydia
 * Past: Wikidata hackathon during Africa Open Data Conference in Accra
 * Upcoming: Café OpenStreetMap e Wikidata, July 22nd, in São Paulo, Brazil
 * Report of the workshop about election data (in German)
 * Integrating Wikidata and other linked data sources – Federated SPARQL queries, on The SuLab


 * WikidataCon
 * The scholarship process is now closed. Recipients will be informed around July 25th.
 * You can still suggest ideas for the program, or submit a project until July 31st. The program of the conference is made by the attendees, only what you bring will be in there :)


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * We now have a page describing our use of RDF
 * We now have Q33000000
 * The database reports about items without statements are updated again. English Wikipedia is up at 4.8% (from 4.6%). Dutch Wikipedia remains low at 0.8%.
 * Check out some improvements to the Query Service, and a new prototype for the Query Helper
 * New Wikidata maps with a comparison between October 2016 and July 2017
 * Help improving Wikidata documentation during the Wikimania hackathon


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: NPSN Indonesian school ID, EmbassyPages.com ID, ESEC person ID, Titan ID, Who's Who in France biography ID, French National Assembly ID


 * Query examples:
 * Graph of operating systems (source)
 * Couples of Members of Parliament in UK (source)
 * People who have the same person listed as both their parent and their child (source)
 * [https://query.wikidata.org/#%23defaultView%3AMap%0A%0APREFIX%20lgdo%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Flinkedgeodata.org%2Fontology%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20geo%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.opengis.net%2Font%2Fgeosparql%23%3E%0APREFIX%20geom%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fgeovocab.org%2Fgeometry%23%3E%0APREFIX%20bif%3A%20%3Cbif%3A%3E%0A%0ASELECT%20%3FrailwayThing%20%3Fgeometry%20%28SAMPLE%28%3Flabel%29%20AS%20%3Flabel%29%20%3Flayer%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20SERVICE%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Flinkedgeodata.org%2Fsparql%3E%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3ARailwayThing%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20geom%3Ageometry%20%5B%20geo%3AasWKT%20%3Fgeometry%20%5D.%0A%20%20%20%20FILTER%28bif%3Ast_intersects%28%3Fgeometry%2C%20bif%3Ast_point%2813.383333%2C%2052.516667%29%2C%200.1%29%29%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3Flabel.%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3ASubway.%20BIND%28%22subway%22%40en%20AS%20%3Fsubway%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3ARail.%20BIND%28%22rail%22%40en%20AS%20%3Frail%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3ALightRail.%20BIND%28%22light%20rail%22%40en%20AS%20%3Flightrail%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3ATramway.%20BIND%28%22tramway%22%40en%20AS%20%3Ftramway%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3APlatform.%20BIND%28%22platform%22%40en%20AS%20%3Fplatform%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3AAbandonedRailway.%20BIND%28%22abandoned%20railway%22%40en%20AS%20%3Fabandoned%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FrailwayThing%20a%20lgdo%3AHistoricThing.%20BIND%28%22historic%22%40en%20AS%20%3Fhistoric%29%20%7D%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20BIND%28COALESCE%28%3Fsubway%2C%20%3Flightrail%2C%20%3Frail%2C%20%3Ftramway%2C%20%3Fplatform%2C%20%3Fabandoned%2C%20%3Fhistoric%2C%20%22other%22%40en%29%20AS%20%3Flayer%29%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3FrailwayThing%20%3Fgeometry%20%3Flayer Map of “railway things” in Berlin, as classified by LinkedGeoData.org] (source)
 * Map of discovery locations of the objects stored in the Musée Saint-Raymond (source)
 * [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fstation%20%3FstationLabel%20%3Fpicture%20%28SAMPLE%28%3FpictureCategory%29%20AS%20%3FpictureCategory%29%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20hint%3AQuery%20hint%3Aoptimizer%20%22None%22.%0A%0A%20%20%23%20get%20metro%20stations%20in%20germany%0A%20%20%3Fstation%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ928830%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP17%20wd%3AQ183%20.%0A%0A%20%20%23%20and%20pictures%20of%20them%0A%20%20%3Fstation%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fpicture%20.%0A%0A%20%20%23%20build%20commons%20urls%0A%20%20BIND%28STRAFTER%28str%28%3Fpicture%29%2C%20%22Special%3AFilePath%2F%22%29%20AS%20%3Ffilename%29%0A%20%20BIND%28wikibase%3AdecodeUri%28CONCAT%28%22File%3A%22%2C%20%3Ffilename%29%29%20AS%20%3Ffile%29%0A%0A%20%20%23%20and%20ask%20commons%20for%20the%20categories%20the%20pictures%20are%20in%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Amwapi%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Aapi%20%22Categories%22.%0A%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Aendpoint%20%22commons.wikipedia.org%22.%0A%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20mwapi%3Atitles%20%3Ffile.%0A%20%20%20%20%3FpictureCategory%20wikibase%3AapiOutput%20mwapi%3Acategory.%0A%20%20%7D%0A%0A%20%20%23%20and%20only%20get%20those%20with%20a%20Public%20Domain%20category%0A%20%20FILTER%28STRSTARTS%28%3FpictureCategory%2C%20%22Category%3APD-%22%29%29%0A%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22de%2C%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fstation%20%3FstationLabel%20%3Fpicture%0ALIMIT%20100 metro stations in Germany with public domain images on Commons] (source)
 * UK Members of Parliament who are born out of the UK (source)


 * Development
 * Preparing Lexemes demo for Wikimania
 * Fixing links to non-entity namespaces (T169221) (thanks to Matěj Suchánek!)
 * Tracking labels of quantity units in parser and Lua functions (T170167) (thanks to Matěj Suchánek!)
 * Fixing checking of constraints on deprecated statements (T170391)
 * Improving the Query Service UI (T170279)
 * Improving wbsearchentities (T103875)
 * Removing links from printable version (T87108)
 * Adding customizable fallback to Special:GoToLinkedPage (T166473)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Suggested and open tasks!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 13:34, 17 July 2017 (UTC)