User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 42

Draft: Mac Sleyney
Thanks for your comments. I feel the page, while is relates to a historical family, it is not genealogical in mapping out the relationship between individuals. But rather the relationship between historical groupings.

On the issue of primary and secondary sources. I should clarify that the sources are published but not published on the Internet. So the sources I refer to are rare secondary sources.

I hope that helps. Thanks again,

Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fslyne (talk • contribs) 14:34, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Review of my draft Malt the Brewery page for Wikipedia
Thank you for the swift turnaround of the review of my first solo effort of a new article on Wikipedia. Given the notification that this could take up to 8 weeks, I was pleasantly surprised to get the notification message this morning. I didn’t have any expectation that my first draft effort would be accepted. I have been editing other pages that I have recently visited namely Prestwood, where passing reference is made to the brewery and The ORSociety pages. This however, has been a learning experience for me.

I had done some research on similar Articles written for Breweries, both in the UK and overseas, to understand the sort of content on pages that have already been accepted. A good example is the other local Micro Brewery Rebellion Beer Company, based in Marlow. They seem to reference back to their own website on a couple of citations, is this acceptable?

I am perplexed regarding your concerns regarding the cited references. They are all published content from either independent Award organisations (Great Taste Awards) or local newspapers, (The Source & the Bucks Free Press). I will of course endeavour to source additional evidence of the brewery, its activity, production, products and its contribution to the community in which it resides. I will then review the tone of the piece, update my draft and resubmit. I would however welcome some guidance from yourself or other similarly more experienced contributors to Wikipedia on how to successfully conclude with a published page.

Look forward to hearing from you.

BobScott63 (talk) 12:08, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Cross Sword Limited
Dear Theroadislong I think I have made some improvements to the page regarding the references. could i have some feedback please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielbush (talk • contribs) 15:33, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong

Thank you for reviewing the draft "Instituto Geográfico e Cartográfico", now I introduced new references to confirm the reliability of the institution.

--Rafademais (talk) 17:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Very old "Living people"
In [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edith_Hudson&diff=885992965&oldid=885992960] you added both Category:1872 births and Category:Living people with AFCH. I don't use AFCH and don't know how much it does. Did AFCH add living people automatically? If it did then it should get a bug report. Category:Living people says to use Category:Year of death missing for births before CURRENTYEAR-115. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess that the default is "living" and I neglected to change it when accepting. I will look closer at the next example of this age and report back. Theroadislong (talk) 18:56, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Article Review
Hi, i have a draft that needs review..Draft: Tripp Scott help me in any way to make it right but hope it won't get declined. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvinwebster (talk • contribs) 20:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HITHESH_POOJARI/sandbox/Shri_Annappa_Panjurli
Sir please accept this article. I have got only this much information about my god. This is the respect i am giving to the god. Many wants to know about this. Please accept the article. ( HITHESH POOJARI (talk) 12:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC))
 * I have deleted the draft as a copyvio. -- Hoary (talk) 13:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia unfriendly to small users
Just responding to your removal of my links. I understand from your removal that you're only interested in links from big websites even if the published articles are out of date. Adding some useful information from an up-to-date article about Pinterest isn't of interest to you. Personally I can't see the difference between a correctly referenced link to an in-depth well researched article on Simply Hatch compared with a link to poorly researched out of date article on Time or Forbes or CNET.

I am Alison Wright, the person who ran from Everest Base Camp to Kathmandu with Helene Diamantides. If you'd rather link to an out of date old article on Sportsister then it says a lot about Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alison J Wright (talk • contribs) 13:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You are wrong. What we need are independent sources. Not Alison J Wright writing about herself. See Reliable sources. The Banner  talk 13:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Please see what constitutes a reliable source here WP:RS blogs are not considered reliable I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 13:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , see this edit of mine to that (very poor) article, and this question of mine about the Sportsister piece. -- Hoary (talk) 14:04, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Blogs are not reliable sources! Wikipedia is a blog! Forbes is a blog! Plus the whole Helene Diamantides article is really dated. Just like most of Wikipedia. I shall not waste my time any further. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alison J Wright (talk • contribs) 15:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That's correct blogs are not reliable sources. Wikipedia is NOT a blog but it also cannot be used as a source either. The article may be dated, it was also hagiographic in tone, but adding your own blog links to it is not very helpful. Theroadislong (talk) 15:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That's right: blogs are not reliable sources. I understand it's both surprising and discouraging, however, there are reasons for this: Wikipedia in general is not interested in what people want to say about themselves (or their relatives, friends, employers, organizations, etc.) but only what others say about them. Hence any first-hand relations (blogs among them) are not accepted. Even if they are full of details and absolutely true, they do not count. Similary eye-witnesses reports do not count as a source of information about any event or fact. Please see the policy on No original research, esp. the section on Primary, secondary and tertiary sources, and further guidelines linked there. -- CiaPan (talk) 16:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Unclear rejection
Please give me reasons for the rejection or leave the article open for me to keep editing it while publishing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helen regn (talk • contribs) 19:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I gave the reason in the decline, namely "This topic is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia" Wikipedia is not the place to advertise anything. Theroadislong (talk) 19:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Milan Cirkovic Wikipedia draft page
Since you quickly declined the 1st draft, can you please review the edited draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Milan_M._Ćirković ?

Four “independent, reliable sources” have been added since 5 February 2019 and the draft now objectively meets Wikipedia standards.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.51.32.62 (talk) 20:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll leave it for another reviewer to take a look, two book reviews are not really sufficient to establish notability. Theroadislong (talk) 20:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

References for Mastery Transcript Corporation (MTC)
Thank you so much for your feedback. I am clearly missing something as I thought the references I had provided meet the necessary criteria. Will try and figure this out.

Pvajpeyi (talk) 22:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Praveen

Kensaku Shinohara footnotes help.
Hello and thanks for reviewing the piece I posted on Kensaku Shinohara. I would like to do it correctly, but I am a hands-on learner, and reading the instructions on how to create footnotes is not helping me, only confusing me. Do you have any advice how to proceed or find someone to who can do the proper coding? All the information is there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.36.67.188 (talk) 04:02, 5 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, talk page stalker here. Consider this:


 * Shinohara began his career as a performer as a member of the Tokyo-based dance company Nomade~s [reference] in 2004-2005


 * Reference:


 * This implies that "nomade~s - ノマド's" states that Shinohara began his career as a performer as a member. I see no such statement there. (And yes I can read Japanese.) It's a Flash-based horror of a website, preventing you from providing a link to the specific pseudo-page within. This of course is not your fault. I may have missed something. Have I? Where does the site talk about Shinohara?


 * Additionally, what's the source for his date of birth? -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Request on 14:49:41, 6 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by ProfessorCui
Hi, thanks for the review. I am wondering if you could help elaborate on why the sources that are cited cannot be considered as reliable, secondary, and independent sources. 3dprint.com and 3dprintingindustry are two largest news websites on 3D printing, and they are reporting based on the primary sources from published journal articles or theses. Thanks a lot.

ProfessorCui (talk) 14:49, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The "Goals"and "advantages" sections are completely unsourced and promotional in content though. Theroadislong (talk) 15:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Request on 20:43:36, 5 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Simon7673
I am having a problem posting an article. I have been told the subject is not important enough, however he has a German wiki page and this is just to have an English posting. Simon7673 (talk) 20:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello Simon7673, talk page stalker here. Having an article in the Wikipedia in one language does not justify having an article in the Wikipedia of another language. Is this fellow notable for his position in Siemens Healthineers, or as a basketball player (or as both)? Whichever it is, the writer of an article about him is going to have demonstrate his notability in this role.


 * That writer should not be you. I notice two things: first, your user page says ; secondly, this page says


 * Please read, digest, and act on Conflict of interest. -- Hoary (talk) 23:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Cellemetry article
Sorry - I have not written many articles on Wikipedia. When you said it needed more references were you referring to the existence of Cellemetry or some other aspect? It has been out of service for quite some time, however, I am sure I can dig up SEC filings and such. I did reference the Atlanta Business Journal later in the article. Does more along that line work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSYguy (talk • contribs) 01:08, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I changed the Cellemetry article to add more references and removed any Wikipedia references. Please let me know if this works. If there is a problem any help in defining what is expected would be appreciated. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSYguy (talk • contribs) 19:22, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Hanns-Dietrich Schmidt
Hello. I am working on an article about Hanns-Dietrich Schmidt. You declined it due to its doubtful relevance. I am looking for more references to support why he should have an article in English but most of the sources are also in German. He has already an article in Wikipedia in German and maybe I´m taking the wrong path to do this. I´ve read the article about "Notability (People)" but could find anything helpful, could you give me some direct advice. Here is the article in German: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns-Dietrich_Schmidt Thank you. Rigel le (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Having an article in German doesn't necessarily mean we have to have one in English, the german one is VERY poorly sourced and would probably be deleted on English Wikipedia, your draft is also very poorly sourced, you can use german sources if you wish, they don't have to be in English. Theroadislong (talk) 10:43, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Buyagift
Hey! I saw that you reviewed draft:buyagift. I didn't meant to submit the page as I'm still working on it, bit embarrassing. Is there any way to see the date I submitted it? I don't think that I submitted it recently, so I may have done it a while ago.

Thanks for your time!MLKinsella (talk) 11:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * All your edits are viewable in the edit history. You re-submitted here after making no changes since the previous decline. Theroadislong (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Regarding YOU Broadband India Ltd (March 5) Reply
Tell me how do i get this page ( YOU Broadband India Ltd ) accepted, what else should i put ?
 * should i put in more content ?
 * should i put in more citation ?

This is Vodafone India company

Wikidushyant &#124; talk 05:31, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Help for a noob
Sorry to bug you, but you corrected some cases of vandalism on the Dodgson page, so I'm hoping you care. I don't understand why my change was reverted. Doesn't everyone know Dodgson referred to himself as the Dodo (for whatever reason) in AiW? Did I do something wrong? I tried to leave a reason but my PCs were busy rendering so I did this on a Mac and hit the wrong ctl/cmd key. I could not find a way to edit it. I know, if I don't know what I'm doing I should stay away - but I DO know Dodgson, so seeing "Aryaman" instead of Dodo kinda pissed me off. I'm sorry that I don't know what I'm doing here well enough to succeed, but someone should change it back. Thanks, Pixel8tryx the noob who should go back to work and not care if Charles Lutwidge Dodgson's Wiki page is wrong. ;> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pixel8tryx (talk • contribs) 02:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

In your edit, you changed
 * it is said that he caricatured himself as the Aryaman in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, referring to his difficulty in pronouncing his last name, but this is one of the many "facts" often repeated for which no first-hand evidence remains. He did indeed refer to himself as the Aryaman, but whether or not this reference was to his stammer is simply speculation.
 * (an unclear amount of which is "sourced" to chap 2 of Leach, In the Shadow of the Dreamchild: A New Understanding of Lewis Carroll) to
 * it is said that he caricatured himself as the Dodo in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, referring to his difficulty in pronouncing his last name, but this is one of the many "facts" often repeated for which no first-hand evidence remains. He did indeed refer to himself as the Dodo, but whether or not this reference was to his stammer is simply speculation.
 * (an unclear amount of which is "sourced" to chap 2 of Leach, In the Shadow of the Dreamchild: A New Understanding of Lewis Carroll). So at least one editor says that Leach says one thing (though what she's claimed to say isn't entirely clear), and another (you) says that she says something else (ditto). I don't have Leach's book. Just what does she say about this in chapter 2 of her book? -- Hoary (talk) 03:09, 9 March 2019 (UTC) deleted Hoary (talk) 03:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hang on: That comment of mine immediately above was stupid. There is no "Aryaman" in this novel; and even if there were, the name would be unrelated to stammering. "Dodo" does appear, and of course could be related to stammering. So almost certainly you're right. -- Hoary (talk) 03:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Hoary & Theroadislong: It's my fault for being new and not realizing the correct thing to do was a revert. Sorry about that. I did also wrongly assume people would realize it was vandalism as it's always been "dodo" as far as I can remember and one can easily search the AiW text and find the reference. I would think the person who changed it would have to provide some sort of reference to why they added a word not in the text. Perhaps it is in their own native language.

I honestly had no idea how much that page gets vandalized. And I only wanted the word "Dodo" back -- I know the issue of it's reference to his stammer is a can of worms. All reliable recorded comments I've read regarding his speech dysfluency (and I have the whole 10 volume diary collection) relate to a hesitation (similar to the movie 'The King's Speech'), not a repeating stutter. But as I am not truly (or at least solely) a professional Carrollian research scholar, I'd never add my personal comments to a wiki. And even with such a dysfluency there's no reason why he couldn't have accidentally said, "Do- Dodgson" at some point.

Thanks so much for your assistance in this matter, Pixel8tryx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pixel8tryx (talk • contribs) 05:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Pixel8tryx, you can sign and timestamp your comments by hitting "~" four times in a row. Dodgson/Carroll is a name that young people encounter at school. Perhaps they have to read something by him, and doing so is far less interesting to most kids than is playing computer games in which they blow up cyborgs that attempt to blow them up (etc). So bored children will vandalize the article. (Be grateful that they don't attempt to provide evidence: what's far more worrisome than kind of the silliness you spotted is the careful insertion of fake evidence.) The amount of vandalism and miscellaneous stupidity hereabouts is enormous; this means that some people put a lot of effort reverting it; this in turn means that they are sometimes too hasty. (Certainly I have been, at times.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:01, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Venus_Jewel
Hi

You have rejected Venus_Jewel draft twice. I can see two reason for rejection one is "Content looks like Marketing" and second "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article".

For first issue, after first rejection, I have added good number of publicly available references. All previous references to company were removed. Site which refer to Venus Jewel categorized as follow General New Site https://www.reuters.com/article/us-anglo-debeers-blockchain/de-beers-tracks-diamonds-through-supply-chain-using-blockchain-idUSKBN1IB1CY https://www.businesstoday.in/magazine/features/why-indias-diamond-industry-is-facing-its-worst-crisis-ever/story/226005.html https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/surat/maha-cm-felicitates-surat-diamantaire/articleshow/57739634.cms

Academic References http://vslir.iima.ac.in:8080/xmlui/handle/11718/10460 http://www.academia.edu/13198097/Surviving_the_Recession_Venus_Jewel_-A_Case_Study_from_Indian_Diamond_Industry

General Reference http://gss.debeersgroup.com/customer-directory/venus-jewel

Wikipedia Reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sightholder

News Site & Online Magazines For Diamond Industry https://www.rough-polished.com/en/analytics/85364.html http://www.cijintl.com/In_The_Press-8073-Venus%20Jewel.html http://www.idexonline.com/FullArticle?Id=35123 https://www.rough-polished.com/en/news/49279.html http://www.idexonline.com/FullArticle?id=32787 https://www.nationaljeweler.com/majors/market-developments/5525-venus-jewel-launches-an-app http://sales.alrosa.info/rough-diamonds/long-term-contacts/our-customers-2/ https://www.ddmines.com/sorting-and-selling/ http://www.diamondworld.net/Content/Shri-Sevantilal-Premchand-Shah-awarded-Lifetime-Achievement-Award-at-India-Gem-Jewellery-Awards-/15018

Hope categorization will help you decide.

Coming to second issue "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article". Venus Jewel does yearly business of more than 100 MN USD (revenue) every year, I think that makes it eligible. Figure is publicly provided in 2008. Check following article. Current figure must be higher than this. https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/economy/story/20081208-jewel-chief-738403-2008-11-28

If any specific link or line which seem improper or lacks reference I can correct it.

Other news site that I can add if required https://www.outlookbusiness.com/specials/state-of-the-economy_2016/roughing-it-out-2652 https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/Banks-must-support-nextgen-of-diamond-firms-AWDC-chief/article20929647.ece

If needed can provide more information.

Priyankshah81 (talk) 11:53, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Firstly you need to address your conflict of interest and your undisclosed paid editing. Theroadislong (talk) 12:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi

I have checked following pages to understand what could be COI & undisclosed paid editing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest

I am currently working with Venus Jewel. I am not going to be paid specially for this task. I was not fully aware of COI and I should have given this concern in communications. Let me know whether I am being an employee of the organization will be eligible to create article or not.

Priyankshah81 (talk) 06:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Dear Editor

Any update on this?

Priyankshah81 (talk) 12:00, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Coxwold Pottery article - follow up
Dear Theroadislong

Hope you don't mind me getting back in touch with you. First of all, again thank you so much for getting involved with this article. I had a good look at your User Page and found that you had actually contributed 23 or 24 articles on potters! I see as well that you started the W A Ismay article. What an achievement! The Coxwold article has now been up a for a few weeks and I see you have done one or two more edits! Anyway, thanks again. Some points. Would it be OK now do you think to alter the ‘List of UK Studio Potters’ to link Peter and Jill Dick to the ‘Coxwold Pottery’ article? Also, I saw that in your Michael Cardew article there is actually mention of Peter Dick. Again, could we link that back to the Coxwold article? The next thing is that since the article was on Mainspace, Jill Dick has been in touch with me and is very pleased that Coxwold pottery now has an article. (NB I deliberately did not attempt to get in touch with her when I was drafting the article to avoid any conflict of interest.) She’s made one or two small points on the content, so I hope is will be alright to edit these. And last, I'm hoping to put some further examples of Coxwold pots up on Wikimedia Commons and I think it might be quite good to change the two pot illustration for a more interesting example? Many thanks if you have a minute to respond  ArchaicW (talk) 17:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Coxwold - thanks
Thanks very much for putting in these two links - very grateful. I would have been quite happy to do it myself, but I rather think you must have been quicker! Many thanks ArchaicW (talk) 11:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Riccardo Crespi Gallery
Dear Theroadislong. Thank you for your comment.

"Please don't create more than one draft of the same subject, this was also declined here Draft:Riccardo Crespi Gallery Theroadislong (talk) 16:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)"

As I did not intend to create more than one draft, I have no idea how that could happened. It's my first article.

Do you think I can publish the article already or is going to be declined again?

I'm happy about any advice.

Best AnniRes — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnniRes (talk • contribs) 16:54, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * YouTube and Wikieventi are not reliable sources and the exibart references are just listings, so no, it isn't suitable for accepting yet, we need multiple in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:02, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Rejected article
Dear Theroadislong,

I was just wondering what further proof I should submit for the article you rejected earlier here. Part of the issue is a significant portion of her fanbase is completely offline, in a very low income country where most people don't even have access to the internet. She is one of the most famous people in her industry, so I was wondering what else I can do to submit said proof. I have hundreds of caps of newspaper articles and magazine covers, including for some of bangladesh's biggest fashion magazines like Ice Today here. Sadly, many of these institutions don't post their content online directly, but I do have copies of it all for verification. I don't think its fair to rule someone out just because they aren't famous in a country where most of the popular media is internet based like the States. I 'm a pretty new wikier, so not sure how this process works.

Thank you for your help :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calveym (talk • contribs) 21:04, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sources do not need to be online, newspapers and magazines are absolutely fine, just cite the details, name, date,

publisher etc. Theroadislong (talk) 21:19, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Kisure Sports
Hello, Theroadislong

You recently rejected my article and left a message (This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.) Yet their is an article about Ghafla! which is short (one line) and approved with Wikipedia kindly advice on how i can update and be approved... kindly — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreaBunks (talk • contribs) 15:42, 12 March 2019 (UTC) --AndreaBunks (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that other poor quality articles exists is not a good reason to create more, see Other stuff exists. Theroadislong (talk) 16:06, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Kisure Sports
Ok i understand Theroadislong, Kindly help me create (Kisure Sports) article that will be approved by wikipedia--AndreaBunks (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The subject doesn't appear to be notable so we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 16:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok delete the article for me i will submit it when its notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreaBunks (talk • contribs) 16:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Delete Draft Kisure Sports
Ok delete the article for me i will submit it when its notable--AndreaBunks (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Nope you have submitted this to draft and mainspace too many times. SALT requested. Legacypac (talk) 16:26, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin so cannot delete articles, but I see that it has already been deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 16:27, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Greatful
thank you so much for upadating me regarding source. i have given the other reliable sources too but what do you suggest,should i remove wikipedia sources. so kind of you. --Citylightson (talk) 15:32, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Assigned Clothing
Hi,

Are you able to inform me of what I need to change on my recent wikipedia page please?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Churchill (talk • contribs) 18:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Your business is not notable so we cannot have an article on Wikipedia about it, we require multiple in-depth coverage in reliable independent sources Wikipedia is not a venue for promoting your company. Theroadislong (talk) 18:50, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft - Venus Jewel - Re-iteration
Hi

Sorry for creating another thread. As guided by you I have done necessary declaration in talk page as well as while resubmitting Wiki Article about my COI.

You may check it at end of the conversation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong#Draft:Venus_Jewel

Also you guided to suggest it on helpdesk, I have done that yesterday. But it seems my post was deleted. I cannot see my post.

Can you please guide me what should be next step?

Priyankshah81 (talk) 06:54, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Approval criteria
Which criteria is being used to approve an article or page on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amandlaxoki (talk • contribs) 07:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

wikipedia ariticle help
Hello Good morning.

Could you please help review my article so it can be approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royalty12 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It is blatant advertising and stands no chance whatsoever of being accepted without a complete re-write in neutral tone. Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery. All article topics must be verifiable with independent, third-party sources. Theroadislong (talk) 14:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Edits to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Stuart_Knight
Thanks for your suggestions on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Stuart_Knight. I have implemented them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by S.C.Somborac (talk • contribs) 19:54, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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The Astor Colored Tragedy Company
Hi, thank you for the edits on my draft. I would love to expand my research on this subject, I know the resaources are limited, but if you find anymore information please feel free to add more. I would like to see what you find out.Arri37263 (talk) 16:36, 16 March 2019 (UTC) Arri37263

Request on 20:19:06, 17 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Trevsdad1
The references you ask for re: article on Elliott Francis...can they be internet archived television, or film appearances? Some broadcast journalists typically have more electronic based media sources rather than articles, or books, Mr. Francis appears to be one. Also, should I place the reference after the text to be cited, or at the bottom of the page? Thanks!

Trevsdad1 (talk) 20:19, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The sources need to discuss him in-depth and can be electronic media based, magazines, newspapers etc. Each fact requires a citation directly after it. See WP:REFB for help with formatting references. Theroadislong (talk) 20:33, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Independent Source for Award You Commented Was Needed
Would any of these work for a secondary source for Marquis Lifetime Award:

http://thebookendsreview.com/news-2/

https://writingitreal.com/2019/tornado-watch-by-carol-smallwood#comment-75044

http://momeggreview.com/2019/01/14/currents-announcement-award-for-smallwood/

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/4122617 Carol Smallwood (talk) 18:50, 8 March 2019 (UTC) Carol Smallwood (talk) 08:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * No none of these are independent and the real problem is that the award itself isn't notable. Theroadislong (talk) 08:36, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Rejected article for being "too promotional"
Hello.

The page I created is rejected because it was too promotional. When it was in draft, user who reviewed it said that I need to touch on one more thing, which I did and to submit it then. I did that and it's still rejected (I know that it didn't mean I the article would the automatically accepted). Do you care to say which part is promotional? I left the bare minimum - about the bussines, a bit of history and the core of the business (placing a hotel into a specific category). I can't see anything promotional left there. I am also a bit frustrated as I keep reading similar Wikipedia pages and they are really promotional yet, I leave the bare minimum and still getting rejected. I don't see how a bit of history and about the company is being promotional.

We would like to be a part of the Wikipedia and I hope you'll help me get it there.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talk • contribs) 11:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well the first sentence says "a global collection of independent mid and upper hotels around the world" which isn't exactly neutral tone. Wikipedia is NOT a venue for promoting your business and I won't be helping you to do that. Theroadislong (talk) 11:23, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

I meant help in pointing me in the right direction. Thank you, I will try to write it better before I submit it for AFC. Appreciate the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talk • contribs) 11:38, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Questions and Thank you for reviewing the Draft The Complete Lyrics to The Messiah by Georg Friedrich Händel
Hello! My name is Winny by the way. It is very good to hear back from your. I just want to thank you very much for having so quickly reviewed my draft submission. Yes, I know.... it is declined. How do I go about finding out the reason for declining? Also if I failed to do this right...can YOU do this project and make a submission so the complete lyric is more accessible? I don't care who post it....as long as it is there. You see...The reason why I did this was because I recently listened to The Messiah by Georg Friedrich Handel and I wanted to look up the entire lyric in Wikipedia. It ended up not being there. And I ended up having to google each individual movement (songs...and there are 53 of them) to find the lyrics. It was very frustrating. So I compiled all of these from various lyric websites. I am not sure why I can fine Enriqu Iglesias Lyric here but not Handel's Messiah here. It is true there are plenty of information on Wikipedia about Georg Friedrich Handel....including description of each movement for The Messiah. But I wish there is a list of all the lyrics on one page. And I really hope someone could do this....and have it up by Easter this year.

So Help! Thank you for reading this long message! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinnyHuangatEcontact (talk • contribs) 13:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:INDISCRIMINATE Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. It might be appropriate here though, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikisource Theroadislong (talk) 14:05, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Umlaut draft
Hello, I am trying to get my article draft fit for approval since it was initially declined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UMLAUT_(band) I realize that there isn't a huge amount of material to support the subject. The musical group exists on many music streaming websites, has been promoted in podcasts, and is tied to other subjects that do have their own wikipedia pages. Like associated acts of Mr. Bungle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Bungle And the Umlaut band leader, who was a member of Mr. Bungle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_McKinnon_(musician) Should I go to one of those pages, click the link and "create page" from there instead to prove validity?

Or is it just that my draft is lacking a decent amount of supporting sources and should be trimmed, at which point it's more likely to be approved? Thank you. Catoco (talk) 22:15, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Your draft is lacking enough independent reliable sources about them. Wikipedia requires multiple in-depth coverage in it's sources. Theroadislong (talk) 22:29, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

De-commercializing this page
We are doing our best to clean up the Williamsburg Christian Academy Wikipedia entry. We are stripping positive descriptors from sections and just trying to present factual information regarding the school. Unfortunately, the bulk of information available about the school can only be obtained from the school's website in terms of their philosophy, programs, and personnel. There really is no public information that has covered what people really need to know about the institution. What would you recommend that we do regarding the warnings placed on the page to make it inline with guidelines? We want the most factual detail we can get on the page, but don't want to be viewed as advertising, just providing data.

As an aside, one problem that exists here is that Google for Business draws upon the Wikipedia description of the institution. This yields temptation to improve or polish the appearance of the Wikipedia description to garner more appeal....just an observation. In my opinion, Wikipedia has no place in a commercial listing, unless it's a purely governmental or monument type location. Sullymaan (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC) The Maan
 * If the content has not been discussed in independent sources then it can't be on Wikipedia. Articles on Wikipedia must be adequately supported by reliable sources so that information can be verified

and we only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot include the content and who is "we" Wikipedia accounts are strictly for single person use only. Theroadislong (talk) 17:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

time travel episode
I wanted it to go in the category, but I cannot put the series in the category because it is not an episode. - Oranginger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oranginger (talk • contribs) 19:03, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Individual episodes of Stella and Sam are not notable enough for stand alone articles. Theroadislong (talk) 19:07, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

It was a SPECIAL episode, shouldn't the title bring people to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_and_Sam#Episode_list ? How do I do that? -Oranginger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oranginger (talk • contribs) 17:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry can't help you. Seems like you have been blocked for sockpuppetry. Theroadislong (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

April 2019
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

(Please excuse this post if it is a duplicate!)

Question, if you have time
Thank you for reviewing my page. Was it declined simply due to a lack of references? If so, how do I go about rectifying so that it can be published. Page was 94.1 WIP Midday Show. It was my first attempt, and I was pretty certain that I did at least 1900 things incorrectly. Thanks for your time. Kenny Spaulding — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennyfrombethlehem (talk • contribs) 20:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes articles need to refer to a range of sources. In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide references to articles written about the show in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books, etc. Theroadislong (talk) 20:17, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

AFC
Hello.

You rejected my article and I re-submitted it. Now I am not sure did I submit it or not again since there still a button to submit it and I didn't get a response. Can you just confirm to me if I did or did not submit it so I can proceed? Thank you. (Kristijanwh (talk) 10:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC))
 * I can confirm your draft has not been re-submitted. Theroadislong (talk) 11:03, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Adam
I've Just Removed the Conceptual Image or Portrait of Prophet Adam.. Because The Portrait or Image of A Prophet or A Messenger is not Allowed in Islam.. I'm A Muslim So I did so.
 * It would be best to start a discussion here first Talk:Adam, as Wikipedia is not censored. Theroadislong (talk) 15:25, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Universe
Hello. You have reverted my edit on Universe on the basis that it doesn't belong in the lead section. However, the current definition of a universe contradicts many multiverse articles at once - for example, the article multiverse, which states that a multiverse is a "group of multiple universes". Of course, if a single universe encompasses all time and space, that would be impossible. Furthermore, the article Universe itself has a dedicated and relatively detailed sub-section about the multiverse hypothesis, which directly contradicts the lead. I would like to hear your arguments as to why you don't think the definition of a universe in the multiverse context does not belong in the lead section.

As for it not being clear, please explain in what way it is not clear, and possibly suggest an improved version. O l J a 20:18, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not clear because it contradicts what the first paragraph says and you seem to have stated as fact what a multiverse is, whilst it is only a hypothesis and it is already noted as such a few paragraphs down. Theroadislong (talk) 23:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have italicised the articles 'the' and 'a' for distinction, and also note how the Universe is capitalised, unlike a universe. Furthermore, at the end of the sentence, it is stated that this definition only applies to "many multiverse hypotheses". Don't see any contradiction. Please read the edit clearly before reverting. To make it clearer, however, I can put this adverbial clause at the front of the sentence. O l J a 23:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Rabbi Dovid Tugendhaft
I added references relating to the subject after the first review. the references have a wealth of information relating to the subject on them. I am unaware of why my article falls short of standards. please can you help me on this matter?

Danny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winston16 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Since when is Billboard not a reliable source?
I do not understand your comments. Since when is Billboard not a reliable source? It says right in the reference that this artist co-wrote a song recorded by Dionne Warwick for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Her music has also been played on the BBC in addition to other things. I have seen musicians on Wikipedia with almost no references.Are you sure you're seeing the revised article? Every reference listed is either a review, radio play on a national station or a major publication like Billboard.

Mark Shiwolich — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mshiwolich (talk • contribs) 19:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Ellen Woloshin was declined by User:SamHolt6 I can't see any mention of Billboard in the draft? Theroadislong (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Ursula Holden Gill's Wikipedia Page
Hello there,

I attempted to update my Wikipedia page on Saturday evening because it has concerned me for a while that I am currently being misrepresented there. It seems the page was set up for me by someone when I was a television actress (over ten years ago). However, for the last decade I have worked as a Storyteller and Educator. As much of the information on my page is either incorrect or out of date I took pains to correct it myself but I received notification from you yesterday morning that you had changed it back again! I totally respect that Wikipedia isn't about self promotion and I assure you that is not what I'm trying to do but PLEASE could you ensure that I'm represented accurately? I've included a version of how I'd like the page to read below. Doesn't need much. Just some things taking out and updates adding in. Any problems, please contact me via ursulaholdengill@gmail.com.Thanks.

Ursula Holden-Gill (born 21 March 1974) is a storyteller and educator known initially for her acting work including her roles as school secretary Carol on Channel 4's comedy drama Teachers (2001–04) and cancer sufferer Alice Dingle on ITV's Emmerdale (2004–06).

Ursula Holden-Gill graduated from St Martin's College, Lancaster in 1996 with a BA Honours in Drama and Music before attaining an MA in Intercultural Storytelling at University of Lancaster and a PG Dip in Acting from the Drama Studio London. Her screen credits include The Bill, Sex, Chips & Rock n' Roll, Mrs Merton and Malcolm, Trial and Retribution, Doctor Willoughby, The Wyvern Mystery, People Like Us, Teachers,[1] Emmerdale, The Syndicate, Vera and Wolfblood. In 2007, Holden-Gill underwent teacher training at Unity College, Burnley where she attained full status as a qualified teacher and went on to establish herself as a professional Storyteller and Educator. She is currently an associate artist of Opera North and Settle Stories, an associate teacher of The London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art, Storyteller in Residence at Leeds General Infirmary for the charity Henry Dancer Days and works within the community, education, entertainment and health sectors alike, both in the UK and abroad.[2] In 2012 Holden-Gill was voted Best Newcomer at the British Awards for Storytelling Excellence[3] and in May 2013 released her first collection of songs ‘The Handless Maiden’s Daughter’.

(In the Occupation Section please could take out the word Performer. Thank you). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.30.117.12 (talk) 12:58, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that, like many others, you have misunderstood what Wikipedia is about. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent sources say about a subject. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in what you or I have to say about anything. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear Theroadislong, thank you for reviewing the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Florian_Graf. I improved the referencing in the section life and work and hope you will be able to re-review the page and let me know if there is anything else that can be improved. Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aniblab7 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

The Australian and Oceanian Continent
Matthew Flinders from Our Union(The UK), if you didn't happen to know, circumnavigated The continent of Australia-Oceania back in the day.

Neill Patterson (talk) 11:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Manish Ranjan article.
Hello!

Hope you are doing well.

I have made all the references inline as suggested by you. Kindly check and revert if anything else needs to be done here.

Mahishranjanias (talk) 11:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)BR

Request on 12:38:07, 4 April 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Gedgmoss
Hello, thank you for your feedback but I'd like further clarification: 1) which reference is not "significant" 2) at least one reference is a published Book - is this not significant enough? 3) do I simply need to refer some references leaving only (2) ?

I understand your principles, but just more specifics on the execution. Thank you

Gedgmoss (talk) 12:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)G.MossGedgmoss (talk) 12:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Gedgmoss (talk) 12:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Article submission
Hi, you recently left a comment on my page that I am trying to publish - I've done a couple of edits, would you be able to take another look?

Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hcs2019/sandbox

Hcs2019 (talk) 14:40, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It would need a complete re-write, it is just blatant advertising, entirely inappropriate in tone.Theroadislong (talk) 14:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

John Webb Singer
I am awaiting for comments/corrections from a local expert, Sue Bucklow, who is publishing a book on Singer before July and who is curator of Singer events within the Frome Festival this year. I am also seeking permission to use an image of Singer from the local museum, the image to be placed in Wiki Commons. I will probably publish within a few pages. Many thanks for your support of the article. Philgryce (talk) 18:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing draft of Samiran Chhetri Priyadarshi
Hi, Thank you for taking out your time to review the draft of Samiran Chhetri Priyadarshi. The only reason we have made his information available is because his stories are used in school syllabus and one his work Balibedi is used as a textbook by the University of North Bengal, India. So, having his information on Wikipedia will help the fellow students to gather information about him. The information on the draft is complete to as what we can cover on his literary life. Still I request you kind help to help me to update the draft so that it can be approved. Thank you once again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poemsforsoul (talk • contribs) 13:31, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Masochistic Beauty
I give thanks to you (and anyone else) who was involved in reviewing and accepting the article, especially considering the fact that it is about one of Marvin Gaye's more obscure/bizarre records.

A barnstar for you!
Viki-BSU (talk) 06:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Hello. I tried to make the page better. But each has its own taste. Maybe someone did not like it - that's fine, I think so. I am going to add here my teacher’s scientific articles so that students and other specialists can use them for free. Despite the fact that he is a young specialist, but he is the first person who put forward the concept of "Document and Information Sciences" - showed their structure. He is also the author of the monograph of The Fund for Periodical Press of the Azerbaijan National Library. I am very thankfull you - for your editing my Draft.Viki-BSU (talk) 06:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Farshid pakzat
Why was Farshid Pakzat article being removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farid m19022 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 8 April 2019 (UTC)