User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 59

Questions about revisions made to Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Rando
Hello! Thank you for your recent edits made to the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Rando ! I have a few questions in regards to some of the edits that were made on the page. I notice some things in the research section were removed (specifically in the cellular aging & rejuvenation and muscular dystrophy sections. Can you help me to understand why there was so much removed from those areas and not the first? If you could also help me to understand what I need to do in order for that information to be added back without being deleted? There were also some awards that were removed from the awards section, I went through the ones that were removed but couldn't see why some were removed and others were note (at first I thought it was the citation issue, but I saw that in fact there was one that was cited and removed). If you could clarify if they just need citations, that would be so helpful, thank you! Lastly, I wanted to ask about the areas that say "citation needed". I am unsure how to cite certain areas that have this noted, for example the sentence that reads, "Rando was born in Brooklyn, New York, and spent most of his childhood in the Lewiston/Auburn area and the rural area of Casco, Maine.". How can this be cited? Thank you so much in advance for reviewing this. Jessica Washington (talk) 05:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not prepared to help you, you appear to be an undeclared paid editor. Theroadislong (talk) 07:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

New page
hi, Many thanks for your message. I've now added references and publications from external websites. I hope this is OK! many thanks for your help! kind regards D. MezziFrance (talk) 12:54, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The sources of your draft Draft:Michel Loreau all appear to be written by him, NOT about him which is what we require. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything said or published by him. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with him have chosen to publish about him: the article should be limited to a summary of what such independent sources have said about him. Theroadislong (talk) 13:04, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Mike Peden Wiki Page
Hi Theroadislong, thanks for giving me the information required. I hope this is sufficient. I'm trying to update this Wiki page about myself but I don't know how to do this. I've tried a few times but I seem to keep getting it wrong. I have attached reliable independent sources for your information. I hope I have attached them correctly? Thanks for all your help. Kind regards Mike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edinburgh360 (talk • contribs) — Edinburgh360 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Mike Peden

Mike Peden (born 8 March 1960) is a British Music Producer/Remixer/Composer best-known for his work with the Lighthouse Family. He has been behind some of the most successful and inventive dance pop music throughout the 1990s.

BOIGRAPHY Born in Edinburgh, Scotland, Peden began his career in 1986 as a bass player and member of The Chimes. With over 25 years experience in the entertainment business, Mike went on to become one of Europe’s foremost and in demand music producers. Between 1989 and 1997, he produced the debut album for The Chimes (The Chimes) and ex Massive Attack vocalist Shara Nelson’s debut album (What Silence Knows) which was Brit Award and Mercury Prize nominated. He produced the Lighthouse Family’s debut album (Ocean Drive). In 1998 Mike’s career took him to Jive Records UK and then to Warner Records as a Senior A&R Executive Director. Peden continued to work steadily as a music producer and A&R executive into the 2000's. His other work includes producing for Daryl Hall’s solo studio album (Soul Alone) released on Epic Records, The Lighthouse Family second studio album (Postcards from Heaven) released on Polydor Records and Lucie Silvas debut studio album (Breath In) on Mercury Records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Drive_(album) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcards_from_Heaven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breathe_In_(Lucie_Silvas_album) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chimes_(Scottish_band) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Silence_Knows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shara_Nelson https://books.google.com/books?id=LA8EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA43&dq=Mike+Peden+A%26R+director&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj1nq_2xPPqAhVyTd8KHcoPBqEQ6AEwAHoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=Mike%20Peden%20A%26R%20director&f=false https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-UK/Music/Archive-Music-Media-IDX/IDX/90s/99/MM-1999-12-04-OCR-Page-0004.pdf
 * I'm afraid that Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 06:50, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

mike Peden Wiki Page
Does this help you? If Wiki ins't I reliable source which now makes sense, you can see why I'm asking for help. It's not great having a page written about myself that I can't correct and update. https://www.allmusic.com/album/ocean-drive-mw0000025688/credits

https://www.allmusic.com/album/postcards-from-heaven-mw0000042394/credits

https://www.allmusic.com/album/what-silence-knows-mw0000110607/credits

https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/90s/1993/MM-1993-10-02.pdf

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r221347572

http://uk-charts.com/showperson.asp?name=Mike+Peden

https://www.whosampled.com/Michael-Peden/

https://genius.com/artists/Mike-peden

https://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/musicnews/Lucie+Silvas-649.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edinburgh360 (talk • contribs)
 * This all belongs on the article talk page not here, the links you have posted all mention you, but articles require sources which contain in depth coverage of you. You can ask for changes on the articles talk page, in the form of change x to y with a source to support it, or suggest content with a specific source but you can't just re-write it. Content like you suggest "Mike went on to become one of Europe’s foremost and in demand music producers" is entirely inappropriate for an encyclopeida article which need to be neutral in tone. Theroadislong (talk) 16:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Andreas Sundén
Thanks for giving advices! I have edit the article and added more references. /Andreas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreassunden (talk • contribs) 07:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Recent declined article
Hello,

I am the editor for the page on Robert Chodo Campbell and Koshin Paley Ellison that was recently declined submission.

I was hoping that you would expand on the feedback you gave. The site states "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject."

Can you please specify which aspect of these requirements were not met in the submission?

Thank you for your time!


 * I guess I just wasn't sure what exactly made them notable. Feel free to re-submit and let another reviewer take a look. Interviews are not reliable sources and two of your sources seem to come from the same press release. Theroadislong (talk) 16:06, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

ANI Discussion
There’s a discussion at WP:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents that may involve you. Gleeanon409 (talk) 02:07, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Review of Yasmeen Williams Page
Hello! Thank you so much for your advice on the page I've been working on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yasmeen_(Betty_J.)_Williams

I'd like to resubmit it for consideration, but was hoping you might be able to review it first. I tried to implement the advice you and the other reviewer gave to "hack it back" and I also changed the way I was citing references. Instead of just linking to a Washington Post article, for example, I added the complete citation information for the article.

What do you think?

Thank you! and P.S. I hope I am using this Talk page correctly!?

Toadalicious (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Help add my first article please
Look Draft:Ali Mansour, a notable actor: - yes, his role in the series Napoleon wal Mahroussa, his role in the series Saraya Abdeen , and in IMDb and elcinema.com, and Marefa – Ali Mansour's biography. - yes, An actor and influencer with more than 200,000 followers on Facebook verified page. - yes, promoting to Egypt, Tour guide and influencer here. and Ali Mansour On the largest Egyptian news sites. a notable person independent reliable sources 1 2 3, radio interview On the official channel , television interview.
 * 1. Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.
 * 2. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
 * 3. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
 * all i have write in the Draft have a source.
 * and You can use Google Translate to translate the titles and content of the sources in Arabic.
 * click [g.co/kgs/kWY6ii here] to see ali mansour on google. or write ”ali mansour actor” on google. or write ”علي منصور مبادرة” to see ali mansour in arabic on google.
 * Thank you. --41.35.85.111 (talk) 18:59, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Facebook, IMDb and interviews are not reliable sources for establishing any notability I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * hello Theroadislong, look at all sources.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.35.85.111 (talk) 19:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Blogs and YouTube are not reliable either. Theroadislong (talk) 19:29, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

News sites independent reliable sources: 1, 2  , 3 ,  4 , 5 41.35.85.111 (talk) 19:42, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have translated them and none of them show in depth coverage. Theroadislong (talk) 19:48, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

hi Theroadislong, I'm very sad, 3 Drafts are not accepting because i am ip and not editor, all have sources, And they refuse for the same reasons. Everyone rejects drafts, nobody helps, we try hours, and they easily refuse in seconds. 1-Draft:Sherif Salama, 2- Draft:Napoleon Wal Mahrousa, 3- Draft:Ali Mansour. -41.35.85.111 (talk) 22:21, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Diamond Rainwear
hi y my article was reject i was 100% made wikipedia guideline let me know y my article got rejected — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaakeef (talk • contribs) 11:22, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your subject is not notable. There is nothing you can do about this. Wikipedia only publishes articles for topics that have received significant coverage in reliable sources, your draft had none. Theroadislong (talk) 11:39, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

7X Energy page
Hi,

Thank you for your quick response. I was trying to create a company page. I was under the impression through articles online that I could create a company page. So it seems I need to put in my profile that I work for 7X, is that correct?

Thank you, Rfolk7X (talk) 16:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)rfolk7X
 * Yes you will need to declare your conflict of interest, please also be aware that Wikipedia doesn't have "company pages" Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything the company has to say about themselves. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with them have chosen to publish about them. The article should be limited to a summary of what such independent sources have said about them. Theroadislong (talk) 16:32, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Reliable source
Hi, hope you're doing well. I want to know about legacy(dot)com website. Is it a reliable source? Thank you TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I would think not, Legacy.com is just an aggregator that's collecting information from various places that publish obituary information with no fact-checking . Theroadislong (talk) 18:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Diamond Rainwear
article should be verify in wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaakeef (talk • contribs) 06:24, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Diamond Rainwear has zero sources and no indication how they might pass WP:NCORP which is why it was rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 06:42, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Waystocap
Hi Theroadislong

Please it's the 9th time that I am changing the article and I still don't understand why it didn't get published. What did you mean by "Nothing here suggests they pass WP:NCORP", and in order to solve it what should I do exactly. if it is something simple, could you please doing it for me? or just explain to me in details by showing what and where should I make a change so that my article get published.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelmounimbfs (talk • contribs) 12:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to show how they pass the criteria at WP:NCORP. Theroadislong (talk) 13:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

WP:NCORP
How can I show how they pass the criteria at WP:NCORP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelmounimbfs (talk • contribs) 13:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Err... by reading the criteria at WP:NCORP and suggesting which part of it they pass? Theroadislong (talk) 14:03, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing
Hello. Thank you for reviewing my article Draft:Centerstone. I am trying to understand what areas of the article of concern. It had been previously deleted by another user and I worked with him to get it "up to code." There are numerous external sources cited, so I am a bit unclear of how to proceed. Would you be willing to help?Rlambert327 (talk) 16:45, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Per Paid-contribution disclosure you must disclose who is paying you to edit, editors who are or expect to be compensated for their contributions must disclose their employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any paid contributions. I am not willing to help further as you are a paid editor. Theroadislong (talk) 16:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 23:01:52, 6 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Bisnar6665
Hey, that's alright. Are there any pages you need help with? I'm bored, lol.

Bisnar6665 (talk) 23:01, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Barry N. Haack
Let me hasten to add that an article on Haack would offer far more than a tribute to his career. The field he has helped build over the course of his career is one that will continue to grow and affect our daily lives. Those studying or seeking to do research in the field of remote sensing (satellite imagery) and photogrammetry (aerial photography) will benefit from the article and use it to pivot to publications, individual specialists, and trends in the scientific use of imagery and its applications in fields such as intelligence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilson088 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Barry N. Haack
I'm working on a resubmission of Barry Haack's proposed article and have a question for you. By insufficient "references" do you mean "publications"? Or do you mean references to his work? If the latter, I checked Google Scholar and found over 2,000, which I can mention in a preamble to the publications section, while also expanding that section.

I've known Haack for some time and have a lot of respect for his work. I thought it would be a fitting and well-deserved tribute to his substantial career at the time of his retirement to author a Wikipedia page for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilson088 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft has zero independent sources. Secondary sources that are independent of the subject are required to establish notabilty. You also need to declare your conflict of interest as you know him. Theroadislong (talk) 15:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Barry N. Haack
I believe you were kind enough to add a footnote to the introductory paragraph, so I added two more. So we now have three references to external sites that verify Prof. Haack's credentials. Those credentials seem to meet three or more of the criteria for academic qualification for Wikipedia, when only one is required. At this stage, I'm baffled as to what more can be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilson088 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * As I commented previously, for a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them. If it were accepted it would likely be deleted for lack of sources. Where did you get all the content? Surely you can just add the sources? Theroadislong (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hypertime
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 01:19:29, 8 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Jatt Clans
Hello Theroadislong, You reviewed my draft (Gondara Clan) a few days ago and declined it's publication into an article - for good reason, I failed to add my reliable sources. I have updated my article and added more information to it along with sources from reputable authors and publics along with census records. I hope you will be happy with my changes and view all records of this Clan title. Thank you for your time.

P.S. The following clans were granted articles but have little to no information and zero sources: Flora clan, Hans clan, Pediwal Clan. Could you explain why they received publication? That is the reason I did not provided references in my first go around. My apologies. Jatt Clans (talk) 01:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Jatt Clans (talk) 01:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for adding sources. I have accepted your draft, the other articles you mention have been tagged and could be deleted if no sources are found. Theroadislong (talk) 07:48, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Diamond Rainwear Pvt Ltd
i have make the the 100% with wikipedia guideline pls published it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaakeef (talk • contribs) 09:08, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

my wikipedia article should be published in wikipedia 100% — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaakeef (talk • contribs) 09:13, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You have repeatedly asked about this at many venues, the answer is always the same, but you have ignored it. Your draft Draft:Diamond Rainwear Pvt Ltd has been rejected it has no sources so no evidence that they are notable. Theroadislong (talk) 09:22, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

thanks for reviewing my article can you pls published in wikipedia my article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaakeef (talk • contribs) 09:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

can you pls help me to published in wikipedia thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfaakeef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The company is NOT notable, it will not be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 09:36, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , once the corporation passes WP:CORP then I suggest you await the creation of an article by someone unconnected with it. The onus is on you to prove it passes the strict criteria. Asking about this repeatedly gives me cause for concern about whether you are here to improve Wikipedia  Fiddle   Faddle  09:37, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Review Tone for Draft:Pascal Mouawad
please help me to re-review the tone for Draft:Pascal Mouawad. I have made some changes as advised prior. Thanx! The Omniscient (talk) 14:09, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The tone looks fine now, I don't know about notability though. Theroadislong (talk) 14:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanx for your advice. It was very helpful.The Omniscient (talk) 15:03, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Input on unsourced content
Greetings! You recently commented on the unsourced content in Draft: Caroline Rose (writer). Would you mind describing this in more detail so I can fix the problems? I would greatly appreciate your suggestions/help for making this article acceptable. Thank you! Postsingular (talk) 16:47, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how you want me to describe it further? There is a large amount of content with no sources at all. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is reliable. Theroadislong (talk) 17:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Move article
@ please move Draft:Hac'KP 2020 name to Hac'KP, and you will get the coverage of the article.
 * Thanks @ for moving. TintuArunav (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

WorksChannel Company Page Review
Hello,

Greetings for the day. I have written an article regarding WorksChannel LLP, and Information Technology and Services company. I request you to please review my article. This article is being written to remove confusion between two companies with similar name i.e - WORKSCHANNEL LLP and WORKCHANNEL. My kind request to accept my article.

Thank you ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eshady111 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected because it gives no indication that the company would pass WP:NCORP if I did accept it would be deleted very quickly. Theroadislong (talk) 08:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michel_Loreau#
hello Theroadislong, thanks for your feedback and the help! I've added more content linking to external websites, in particular french press articles regarding the subject. hope this is all good and Ok for review and approval. Thanks again! look forward to hearing from you! cheers! MezziFrance (talk) 09:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Reply
I am not affiliated with them nor am I a paid contributor. Tips for making it less promotional sounding? Kneecee (talk) 17:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Noted, thank you! Made adjustments. Kneecee (talk) 17:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Tagging of User:Cory H Jones
I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on User:Cory H Jones. I do not think that User:Cory H Jones fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because '''This is IMO within the "limited biographical information" permitted by User pages and so is not "unrelated to Wikipedia's purposes". It does not look like an article draft.''' I will however, be advising the user on proper uses for a user page. I respect your experience, and if you still think this should be deleted, ping me and we can discuss the matter.. If you wish, you may try using the simple proposed deletion (PROD) process, or the full articles for deletion (AfD) process, instead, if this was an article, or another proces such as MfD or XfD as appropriate. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok it's probably borderline, I tagged it after seeing his very promotional draft/CV here User:Cory H Jones/sandbox. Cheers Theroadislong (talk) 18:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I posted to his user talk page on the proper use of a user page. I am seeing a lot of U5s that I think should not have been made today. I don't know why. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 18:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ahmed Amin
Hi, many thanks for your comment needing edits for a more neutral tone.. hope you have another look as i made more edits and added more citations.. thanks in advance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ahmed_Amin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haidyyyyy55 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Review request
Hi, Hope you are doing well! Could you please review the page Mukul Saxena ? Nalbarian (talk) 16:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It has been made into a redirect to Havells, it wasn't notable enough for a stand alone article I guess? Theroadislong (talk) 16:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Response to email notice
Good Afternoon,

I apologize that I incorrectly made edits to the American Sleep Apnea Association page. We are a non-profit organization and I am an employee for the organization. Our goal is to help educate patients dealing with sleep apnea. I tried to do the edits correctly and read through the tutorials and I obviously didn't do something correctly. I will let my employer know my user id has been blocked. Our only goal was to get the information updated.

I apologize again! No disrespect meant and I was truly trying to do it correctly.

Kindest Regards,

SleepAdvocate (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

SleepAdvocate Alice Rolling

Jon Hawkins
What do I need to do to make this page acceptable? Is it simply to find sources for the facts in the article?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhawkins57 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to wait for someone else to write the article, Draft:Jon Hawkins writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged, particularly those with zero sources and a promotional tone. Theroadislong (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Nick Bailey, Garden Maker
ZaluzianskyaOvata (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I was not submitting the page, just drafting something out before submitting. I still have work to do on this and the links.

I do have a link to Nick Bailey, we would like a page on him, as there are already others of a similar standing from Gardener's World eg Adam Frost.

How else do you go about this?

Not finding this very easy to navigate! Many thanks.
 * Who is "we" Wikipedia accounts are very strictly for single person use. Also you need to comply with Wikipedia's terms if you are being paid to edit. Theroadislong (talk) 16:30, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Nick Bailey, Garden Maker
ZaluzianskyaOvata (talk) 16:35, 13 August 2020 (UTC) Thanks for your message. I am not being paid for this, just think there should be a page for Nick as he is well known in the UK - 50,000 followers between twitter and instagram. Thanks.
 * 50,000 followers doesn't mean he is notable in Wikipedia terms I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 16:36, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Declined
Hello, my page was declined as it was classed as blatant advertising but I don't understand how company pages like these can exist but mine be declined? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Extension_College

Any info or advice would be great.

Kind Regards,

Nat — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieP20 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have tagged National Extension College as advertising, please read other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 06:57:10, 14 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Hanne Dale
This is a really stupid question, but I can't seem to figure out how to move this to the Norwegian (bokmål) Wikipedia once the draft had been created.

Hanne Dale (talk) 06:57, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You will need to log into the Norwegian Wikipedia it is a completely separate entity. Theroadislong (talk) 07:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Question about comment
Hey, I do not understund what tour message means, can you explain? :) Best, May — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaySundAnd (talk • contribs) 11:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft uses Wikipedia articles as sources for example the first one is Norwegian National Opera and Ballet, you can Wikilink the articlelike I have done here but you can't use it as a source, Wikipedia is user edited so is not reliable to use as a reference. Theroadislong (talk) 11:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft Ahmed

 * User:Theroadislong Hi Theroadislong, i add 3 more sources about Ahmed and there were 3 sources so it's all 6 sources and it's from IT - Software Development websites because this acheivemnt is all about IT and like these staff i hope you give me an advise . thanks in advance.--Adamshahin (talk) 23:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Requesting for Relook
Hi Theroadislong! Hope you are doing good sir! Sir! I have seen just now that you have reviewed my article and that you have decided to decline it. I am actually sad to hear this but not hopeless. Can you please guide me what should I exactly do to get my article approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaki74080 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have commented on your draft. Theroadislong (talk) 13:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Nevin Tawfik Hassen

 * She born in Egypt,for studies and worked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.204.212.97 (talk) 11:39, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * and? Theroadislong (talk) 13:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Aakash Mehta
Hello theroadislong! Can you please help me with the submission of Aakash Mehta Page. He is a comedian and a YouTuber. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sushantvkulal (talk • contribs) 16:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Public Art Workshop
You recently declined an article I submitted on the Public Art Workshop - a London mural painting collective active in the 70s and 80s in London. Your reason for declining was given as notability, I believe. Please note that they were very significant during that period of British mural painting and were the first to use the Keim silicate process which was later used by other important mural artists in the 70s and 80s. I am new to editing and creating wiki articles but find these deletions very disheartening. This is a subject that interests me and I would like to continue to submit articles on the subject of British mural artists. Phenored (talk) 22:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:REFB for help with correctly formatting your sources, it will help you get articles accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 06:43, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Replying to Paid Editor question for #Draft:Francis Baraan IV
Hi, @Theroadislong!

No, I am not a paid editor. I am a volunteer contributor for pro-democracy Filipino public figures, who have and don't have articles here on Wikipedia Thank you for the clarification on the reference 1 and reference 8. Should I remove reference 8? Can I now edit Reference 1? I already also fixed the bold texts issue. Are there any other issues I need to address? And who do I talk to for adminship of my article about Mr. Baraan?

I have already addressed notability of Mr.Baraan IV on my talk page. So, I hope that clarifies it. My draft is meant to be a stub. So, it will need improvement. But his notability has been established through the multiple news headlines about him, and the external links I included proving his notability.

When can I remove the template about the issues about my draft regarding Mr. Baraan, then? Thank you. MediaManager1 (talk) 14:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You do then, have a clear conflict of interest which you need to declare on your user page, you also seem to be operating two accounts which is problematic. Theroadislong (talk) 14:18, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Unsourced Early Life and Education of #Draft:Francis Baraan IV
There are wiki sources I can use for Early Life section and Education. Will remove Sirom Beach House Part from Early Life. And copy on using a more neutral and dry tone. But please tell me specifically where I should improve and edit re:tone. Thank you. MediaManager1 (talk) 14:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

WorkTime
Hello) I`m just trying to make an article about the company but looks like everyone thinking I`m paid for it. But I am NOT getting money or any goods from it. Even "Thank You" — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackThompsonWork (talk • contribs) 16:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your user name suggests a connection though? Theroadislong (talk) 16:13, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Rod Melancon Review
Hello,

Thanks for reviewing Rod Melancon article draft. In response to your critique of not clear how it qualifies, I'd argue that he's been covered independently by Rolling Stone, No Depression, Chris Shiflett's Walk the Floor and NPR among others. In your view, why does that not qualify? What edits might be done to suffice?

Thank you Kwbeth (talk) 17:20, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You could be right! I think the ref bombing of poorer quality sources has maybe hidden the good ones, please remove the commercial Amazon link at least and re-submit. Theroadislong (talk) 18:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I'll definitely remove Amazon link. Would you mind clarifying "I think the ref bombing of poorer quality sources has maybe hidden the good ones", specifically defining "ref bombing". I know that's probably really dumb and ignorant on my part and I apologize, I'm just not as versed in lingo and want to be clear in my understanding to reduce # of edits and increase efficiency on my part. I definitely want to do this right. Thank you for your patience, look forward to your response. Kwbeth (talk) 00:30, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Freethought House G11
Hi. I declined your G11 at Draft:Freethought House. This might not be notable. However, that doesn't mean we can delete it as promotional, as I see no promotional language. You could consider going with g13 or mfd as alternative ways of deleting this. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I am disclosing paid contributorship for Draft:Francis Baraann IV.

wiki/Draft:Thomas_Fattorini_Ltd
Hello Theroadislong,

In the first of June you declined my submission for an article on Thomas Fattorini Ltd and made some every helpful suggestions in how I could improve it. I think I have done all that you have asked, though probably not to the standard that you may expect from someone a novice.

I was just wondering what the next steps are, and how I can get the article approved? I appreciate that there appears to be a very large queue that seems to be getting longer and longer ever time I look! Any handy hints and advice welcome.

With best wishes

Schnoebi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnoebi (talk • contribs) 14:39, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Copyedited for WP:MOS and accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 15:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help and support.--Schnoebi (talk) 08:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC) S — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnoebi (talk • contribs) 15:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Added References
Greetings Theroadislong, I have added reference for unemployment which we are working can you please go through it once and review it?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaik Jainmiah (talk • contribs) 08:06, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I need you help, i created a draf for a news agency called (A24 news agency) but it was declined can you help me out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:A24_News_Agency what should i edit/ remove — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hadel2020 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Rekha Krishnappa
Hi! How to improve this article? Eswnav (talk) 14:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You will need to demonstrate how they satisfy the requirements of WP:NACTOR. Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

jose Unda
Hi Theroadislong,

My name is Peter Weingarden, I created a Jose Unda page from a Jose unda email address as I wasn't sure how to do it from my own page. It kept saying in sandbox that the page I was creating was peter weingarden? How would I change the page from my peter weingarden wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jose Unda Artist (talk • contribs) 17:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I don't understand what you are telling me? Have you created an account using Jose Unda Artist by mistake? Theroadislong (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Find a grave not reliable?
Thank you for your comments on my Ethel Booty draft. There was a photograph of her headstone on findagrave (also including husband and daughter), with a very legible inscription, and accurate birth/death dates, burial location, etc. So in this case I believe it is reliable, though I accept that it could sometimes be inaccurate, depending on who is contributing. I'm trying to find more information - she was clearly an excellent photographer, for her work to be accepted by Historic England/English Heritage, a high status UK historical organisation. Really appreciate your input, thanks again! CourtauldGill (talk) 19:47, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not usually considered reliable because it is user edited, regardless it doesn't help with any possible notability.Theroadislong (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft: VVe Being Donna: The Light, the Dark
Dear Theroadislong, I appreciate your feedback so much for my submission, Draft:VVe_Being_Donna:_The_Light,_the_Dark :) I have a concern though, about it being declined/rejected. Can you please guide me through the steps? The movie also has an IMDb page and some notability. Would be so appreciated if you help me out.

Thank you so very much!

Warmly, PaulXR — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulXR (talk • contribs) 19:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Having an IMDb page is irrelevant, IMDb is user edited so cannot be used to establish any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 19:42, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Article
Can you publish my article because I’m not auto confirmed user and I can’t published it and I don’t know what is neutrality text — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djdjdjdj12345 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Ask about mistakes in Michał Krawczyk draft.
Hi,

Can i ask what i did wrong in draft?

All best,

MKGAPA — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKGAPA (talk • contribs) 10:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Michał Krawczyk has three sources, the first is a primary source which does not help establish any notability, the second doesn't load for me, the third doesn't mention him at all. Notability is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources, there are none as yet.  Theroadislong (talk) 10:51, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

help
you just rejected the article i submitted on the grounds it was contrary to the purpose of wikipedia. can you help me understand the specific issue as this article is all about saving people and planet. there must be some technical thing i do not understand as a very very infrequent contributor. my previous engagement has been to edit small things relating to my own work, also dedicated for over 40 years to saving people and planet. many thanks david — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbonbright (talk • contribs) 12:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Single Organizing Idea (SOI®) seems to be an advert for the topic with zero independent sources. Notability of a topic is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources, editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage. Theroadislong (talk) 12:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

You are not perfect
See you have declined my article but scandal and scams are both different thing you need to understand first my dear friend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Authorworldsmall (talk • contribs) 12:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You might want to check the spelling of your draft Draft:Internet Faurds in India. Theroadislong (talk) 12:31, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

thank you
I'm sorry for being unfamiliar with the style. I had assumed that since the idea was based on a best-selling business book that has tons of published rave reviews and was nominated for major awards was far far more independent sourcing than would be required. I also thought that the list of reputable organizations that had used SOI would be sufficient. Please guide me as to the specific types of "independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage" you had in mind? If you did any research on the Internet you would have found plenty of that. Do you mean one should refer to and link to those things in the article? Again, I apologize for my lack of understanding of the form here. I looked at a bunch of other similar articles and thought I had modeled to them accurately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbonbright (talk • contribs) 14:24, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes  you need to actually add the sources to the draft. Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic (see WP:42). Theroadislong (talk) 14:30, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Do you mean article subjects require significant coverage in reliable sources...? Do you agree that a successful book is in fact an independent and reliable source, albeit of a different type than scholarly articles about the subject? Would testimony of users of the method be an example of what you are looking for?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbonbright (talk • contribs) 14:36, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes the article's subject needs to have been the subject of in-depth coverage in independent, published reliable sources. I don't know what book you are referring to? Testimonies would only be of limited use if they were published in a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 14:44, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

COI
You raise a good point re COI. In reality, don't have a conflict of interest. I am independent. I am a subject expert and I like SOI a lot. I think it is a brilliant tool. The founder is using my measurement method, which is cool. We give our tool away on a creative commons license. Thousands of orgs use it. That in itself does not create a conflict or lack of independence. I can see how there is the appearance of a possible conflict. I would love to have someone entirely new and unrelated be the one to publish article. How does that happen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbonbright (talk • contribs) 14:51, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't happen, unless there are multiple sources where people unconnected with the topic have published about it in reliable places such as major newspapers and magazines etc. Theroadislong (talk) 15:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. so what I need to do is add some independent reliable sources to affirm the core proposition. I assume that the fact that a respected publisher of academic books (Routledge) published the first major book on the subject (see the second sentence of the article for the link to the published book) is one such source. Please confirm. I will chase down some more, but just want to be clear this is what I need to do. Many thanks. Davidbonbright

Mark Gordon Credit Section
Hi Threadsolong,

I have went ahead and reverted the changes you made on Mark Gordon's page. I will source and edit as need be. I am happy to have a discussion about this if you would like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickfeeney123 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Britain's Big Cat Mystery for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Britain's Big Cat Mystery is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Britain's Big Cat Mystery until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:50, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Notifying you since you draftified it and left a talk page message about it after it was moved to mainspace. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:50, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Mark Gordon
Hi Threadsolong,

Apologies on my end. Yes, I am a paid editor. I confused the idea of a connected contributor and a paid editor. I will disclose it from now on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickfeeney123 (talk • contribs) 22:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Mark Gordon
Sorry, threadslong. I just want to clarify. I am Mark's assistant would that make me a paid editor or connected contributor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickfeeney123 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Mark Gordon's Page
Hi Threadsolong,

With your permission, I would like to undo the revision that you made. I will disclose my paid editor status. This way we get rid of the IMBD sources which changed when they were marked as undesirable. I fixed several different grammatical errors and issues with links and I also cited his film and TV credits. In addition to adding an accurate, I am more than willing to work with you and declare my paid editor status to make sure that this page is accurate and up to date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickfeeney123 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You will need to post a disclosure on your user page at User:Patrickfeeney123. Theroadislong (talk) 07:04, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * All future edits should be on the article's talk page in the form of "change x to y" with a reason and a reliable independent reference for other editors to consider. Theroadislong (talk) 07:06, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 16:12:58, 21 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Wikiinfopedia2019
Fellow, I would like to know why the noncoverage topic was included as a refusal. Ther are over 10 pages on google search about the subject. Thanks!

Wikiinfopedia2019 (talk) 16:12, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft Draft:Anna Bey has only one reliable source, The Times and that is an interview so doesn't contribute to notability. Theroadislong (talk) 16:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

"Fellow" - I love that. :-) Deb (talk) 08:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Shanghai Duoyunxuan is as important as Beijing Rong Bao Zhai
Hi Theroadislong, Shanghai Duoyunxuan is as important as Beijing Rong Bao Zhai. Thank you.--Jujiang (talk) 13:24, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You have no sources that support that though? Theroadislong (talk) 13:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * See here. Thank you.--Jujiang (talk) 13:32, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That was just unsourced content, that you just added to the article? Theroadislong (talk) 13:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No. As you can see, I added Chinese only. Also see here, 1, 2.--Jujiang (talk) 13:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 17:00:55, 21 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Wikiinfopedia2019
Bro, you asked for sources, her you go sources! Sorry for the trouble. Great day ahead!

Wikiinfopedia2019 (talk) 17:00, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately The Sun, Daily Mail and Goodreads are not considered reliable sources by Wikipedia. See Reliable sources/Perennial sources Theroadislong (talk) 17:04, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Well, you also said that The Times isn’t a reliable source. The ‘The Times’.

“ When taking information from opinion content, the identity of the author may help determine reliability. The opinions of specialists and recognized experts are more likely to be reliable and to reflect a significant viewpoint.[notes 2] If the statement is not authoritative, attribute the opinion to the author in the text of the article and do not represent it as fact. Reviews for books, movies, art, etc. can be opinion, summary or scholarly pieces.[7][8]” Wikiinfopedia2019 (talk) 16:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't recall saying The Times wasn't a reliable source? The source you have used from The Times is an interview and interviews are not considered independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Andrew W. Timlin_ Rejection
Hi, It would be of immense help if you could kindly specify the reasons as to why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andrew_W._Timlin this page got rejected — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lj279 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Because it read like blatant promotion "Andrew is confident that through this app he can expand his expertise by providing people with something they didn’t know they needed, a pleasant surprise." etc Theroadislong (talk) 17:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Video Performance Limited
Not seeing any in-depth coverage in independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Really? Phonographic Performance Limited (Separate Legal Entity), Companies House, House of Lords, Bloomberg News, SCRIPTed - these are all independent. And if you read the Cites you see they offer significant coverage on Video Performance Limited including a Memorandum to the UK House of Lords in which they state on the record they are the "Worlds Largest Music Video Collection Society" — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ888kmg (talk • contribs) 20:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Being listed at Companies House confers no notability whatsoever. Theroadislong (talk) 21:17, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, but it is independent and verifies date of incorporation and legal name, so important to clarify, wouldn't you agree? Added additional important information and cites to verify Notability, pease take a look when you have a moment. Best wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ888kmg (talk • contribs) 21:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you have any further comment to make on the Video Performance Limited page in relation to either it’s notability or the significance and independence of the citations? DJ888kmg (talk) 17:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Be great to hear more input on the proposed page. And, please accept any apology for any accidental placement of comments as I’m still finding my feet in respect of Wikipedia etiquette and procedures. DJ888kmg (talk) 17:56, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I will leave to other reviewers to take a look to be fair. Theroadislong (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for input. Best wishes. And, any further advice or input warmly received. DJ888kmg (talk) 18:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)