User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 83

Please help to review
Hi Theroadislong, thanks for reviewing the page previously, I have re-edit the page again, do you mind to help me to review before I resubmit?

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Oakwood_(Hospitality) Appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyuppyworld (talk • contribs) 07:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Just blatant advertising still with zero independent sources. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia summarizes information that appears in independent reliable sources with significant coverage showing how an organisation n meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage. Theroadislong (talk) 08:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

RJM (Artist) Page
I am working as an editor to develop a Wikipedia page for an independent music artist. This artist has been covered in several publications in the past, so I thought he would meet the notability requirements. My first initial drafts were rejected due to not having proper citations. My client then got to have a meeting with someone working within Wiki for tips and suggestions on how to keep the article factual and citable, but after following the tips and suggestions advised, the article still got rejected. Is there anything else I can add or remove to make this article meet the criteria? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangolizer (talk • contribs) 17:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You are being paid to edit, I am a volunteer of many years standing, I suggest you spend a few months editing other articles to get a feel for how things work here, Draft:RJM (Artist) fails WP:NMUSICIAN, once they have received more in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources, they might become notable, in which case somebody with no conflict of interest would be best placed to create the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 17:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Please help to review
Hi Theroadislong, thanks for help, I have revise again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Oakwood_(Hospitality) appreciated!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyuppyworld (talk • contribs) 05:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

I removed all the unreliable sources from Draft:FoodBeeper
Hello, I've received your review regarding my article and made sure to edit it according to your remarks. I removed all unreliable sources (twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook) and added the translation tag to the sources in French and Arabic. I'd appreciate it if you review it again and approve it or else guide me on how to improve it. thank you. Rymknows23 (talk) 08:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks and peer-review request
Hi, thanks a lot for pointing out some issues on the "Dumitru Enescu" web page.

Citations: I have added references as requested.

COI: The page is written in a neutral way (basically it is a translation of the Romanian wiki page, created for a honorary member of the Romanian Academy). May I ask you please to peer-review the English article?

Thank you, Benescu (talk) 07:35, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Zaza Korinteli
Korinteli is a musician and that article is a BLP. Most of the BLP articles have Infoboxs, that's why added one there and the info written by me came from the lead of that article. I was not doing any test, I was trying to improve that article. If I did any error, please tell me here and ping me, otherwise I will revert your changes as per Silent. If here is any rule who say don't add infobox in living person's article, let me know, it'll increase my knowledge, happy editing.Success think (talk) 11:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You are free to revert, but please address the formatting issues as at this edit for example. Theroadislong (talk) 12:02, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

You have to ping wile answering. You didn't tell that my edits was ok or not? Success think (talk) 13:17, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I do NOT have to ping you, unless the article is given more sources, it is likely to be sent to WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 13:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

new edit
Hello again, a reputable Persian news source was added and please check. Thanks for your kindness. (Draft:Zahra_Meygoli) --Nazanin1376 (talk) 12:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Double Vision (band)
Hi there, How can Double Vision qualify for a wikipedia page and meet the standards needed to pass "WP:NBAND"? Thanks, Chrissy — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrissyR7204 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * They need to pass the criteria at WP:NBAND have you read it? Theroadislong (talk) 18:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

April Editathons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Regarding draft Article of RICS School, of Built Environment
Dear Sir,

I am formally creating this page on behalf of RICS School of Built Environment, and I am working on it again in terms of content. I sent this item to our content department, and our content writer will immediately change the material.

Please give us some time so that we can continue to have this repair and serve the best organic content available.

Thank You

An update : It has been re-edited please review https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RICS_School_of_Built_Environment,_Amity_University

can you help me please me with my article please (visaltes) thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Visaltis (talk • contribs) 13:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Fore School of Management
Dear, I've once draftified Fore School of Management (6 months ago). Later I guess it passed through an AfC review and now its in a AfD discussion. I would have liked to vote there, but I'm refraining because of my past involvement with that entity's page. Since, we both are working on university related AfC pages and you happen to be more experienced than me, I guess you can take a better decision on this. There is something a miss with the nominator; a very new ID on AfD tagging spree. As long as they are doing justice to Wikipedia, I see no big issue as such. But, still an oversight from a seasoned editor like you will add value to it. -Hatchens (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've edited for neutral tone and removed some promotional stuff, will keep an eye on it. Theroadislong (talk) 14:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

request for accepting draft submited by me.
Hello sir I've created a article on one of my ancestors Raja Maldev Panwar founder of Malpura city in state of Rajasthan,India. Because of lack of historical records on him I could not attach more links than already attached. It is very important for people of alpura to know about him so I request you to accept my article and let the people know about this forgotten king.

Yours sincerely, Mala Parmar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mala Parmar (talk • contribs) 17:34, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Revisiting draft of Flajolet Lecture Prize page
Theroadislong, I really appreciate your suggestions (one year ago) for this draft page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Flajolet_Lecture_Prize You made two notes, namely (1) "Blogs are not considered to be suitable reliable sources, references need to discuss the topic in-depth with significant coverage and be independent of the award itself." and also (2) "The sources added are primary not independent." I believe that I have addressed both of these concerns. I notice that a few other people edited this page too, during the last year. Would you be willing (please) to take a look and see if you think that it is suitable to submit the page for approval now? Thank you very much for considering, and thank you very much for your guidance! MDW333 (talk) 01:35, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Theroadislong, it is safe to ignore my post now. I worked with some other editors, and the page is now approved and published.  Thank you again for all of your advice last year!  I appreciate you!  MDW333 (talk) 11:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Help from the Draft: Pandascrow.io
Thank you, your feedback was helpful, after reading with your feedback in mind it made sense, to me, although I got most of those data from the website, however, thank you a lot, I've removed the product and service section and retouched a few word and submitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prezine (talk • contribs) 19:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 08:36:39, 27 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 74ox
Hello, Could anyone give his opinion about this article? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tariq_AlDulaimi

Mohamed Abbas (talk) 08:36, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Tariq AlDulaimi doesn't suggest why he is notable? Theroadislong (talk) 08:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 10:22:20, 27 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Khalid-hassan-aziz
Khalid-hassan-aziz (talk) 10:22, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * your draft has zero content, we cannot accept blank drafts. Theroadislong (talk) 10:24, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Sidney Wood: rejection of article
This is extremely disappointing. I have never met Wood but have the highest regard for his scientific work in my field. I could cite many Wikipedia articles on phonetics specialists which do not quote what independent sources say about the subject, but have nevertheless been accepted. I feel that demands are being made in the case of Wood that are not made for other speech scientists of comparable repute. RoachPeter (talk) 20:58, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The existence of other poor quality articles is not an excuse to create more, see WP:OSE. Theroadislong (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

The articles I am referring to are not "poor". They are competent and objective summaries of the achievements of scientists in my field, but the authors of the articles have not felt it necessary to include testimonials from other parties. Your implication that I have submitted a poor article is offensive. RoachPeter (talk) 06:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You can ask for other opinions here WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Please be advised that ALL content of WP:BLPs requires independent reliable sources, it is not negotiable. Theroadislong (talk) 08:10, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but I can't imagine that asking for more opinions would help. I can see there's no point in persisting. RoachPeter (talk) 14:29, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That's rather defeatist, the draft Draft:Sidney Wood (phonetician) was declined NOT rejected, which means with improvement it can be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 14:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Eric Michaels
What is consider reliable when Wikipedia doesn't accept any copyright websites newspapers records online stores that sell the product of this individual. What is acceptable and considered reliable. Only Wikipedia articles? If so how in the world does Wikipedia expand? Is there any way where I can add websites reference links that are copyrighted? I don't feel like I am violating any copyright infringement rules. I am not stealing somebody else's work and calling it my own. I merely linking their information as relevant and proof to my writing which is only fact and not of my opinion. Please help I am a new Wikipedia member and I just want to post my first article which is a biography. I'm speaking to the individual for accurate details and I'm struggling to find ways that are acceptable to Wikipedia to back up my statements for details. Again please be understanding and, helpful thank you. I have been looking everywhere for this question to be explained to me and so far all I've been reading is a reliable source is a reliable source, which is a ridiculous explanation that gives me no information as to what Wikipedia accepts. All I understand is what they don't accept. So what is an accepted source?
 * Reliable sources would include newspaper or magazine articles about him, online reviews etc, but not Wikipedia articles, Wikipedia cannot reference itself. Your draft has zero sources, where did you get the information from, just cite where you got it from. In order for an article’s subject to be considered notable by the Wikipedia community, we require that it receive significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject this is what you base an article on. WP:YFA has more help,but you have started with the most difficult task on Wikipedia. If you are speaking to the individual then also please read WP:COI.  Theroadislong (talk) 17:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Sir now there are sources too, now pass

Kishan Mahipal
Sir now there are sources too, now pass — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheManishPanwar (talk • contribs) 19:48, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no indication that they pass the criteria at WP:NSINGER so I will not be accepting the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 19:58, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Steve Zipperman block, speedy deletion
I have made appropriate changes. It should be suitable now. The other candidate in his party has a published page. Can you not have a bit of patience with a first submission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonflymagnet (talk • contribs) 20:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * ,No we can not. Its a blatant ad. Just read the first line and ask yourself honestly if it belongs in an encyclopedia. Also COI disclosure is not optional. And we truly do not care that their opponent has an article, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.Slywriter (talk) 20:40, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I saw nothing prompting a COI, and it doesn't apply to me in any case. I am a voter in the county, and a PC. I am not paid by any campaign. Dragonflymagnet (talk) 20:53, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Let's try this again, a campaign volunteer is a Conflict of Interest, so please make the necessary declaration or stop editing the draft Slywriter (talk) 21:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * , also no idea what PC stands for here.Slywriter (talk) 21:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It's nice to learn something new every day. A PC or Precinct Committeeman is the lowest level elected official in a political party. Dragonflymagnet (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Puffy Mattress - Thank you for reviewing
First of all, Thank you for reviewing my article. Your last comment on my article was "It is still blatant advertisement", I compare it to Casper Sleep, in my opinion it has the same tone. I guess the reference is the issue I can remove all the reference that is related to puffy that will sounds a advertisement. What do you think? --Liptapp (talk) 04:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Leadership Now Project Article
Dear Theroadislong,

I am a PR professional with McPherson Strategies firm that represents Leadership Now Project. We are helping to get their article approved. As you will see in the latest edits, we have scaled back the article significantly so that it includes only a highly sourced and simple stub. We look forward to working with you to approve Leadership Now's article based on Wikipedia's policies and best practices. We want to ensure the article is up to your editorial standards. Let us know if you have additional feedback we can help revise.

Thanks for your help! McP — Preceding unsigned comment added by McP2022 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You need to disclose your conflict of interest and paid editing status. Theroadislong (talk) 14:19, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong I was just about to put down the COI stuff but you did it before me. Do you mind if I remain involved in this? SkyeWolf369 (talk) 14:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do I am running on empty after an unpleasant chest infection. Theroadislong (talk) 14:23, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I would generally assume they would be being paid by their employer in this case possibly McPherson Strategies Firm? Also I am not extremely experienced in handling COI's but I will try my best. SkyeWolf369 (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong Then again we dont know that for sure. Your opinion? SkyeWolf369 (talk) 14:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @SkyeWolf369 and @Theroadislong Thank you for taking time to review. I am an employee of McPherson Strategies, a social impact communications firm. The firm is hired by Leadership Now Project. My team and I provide a variety of communications and PR services. We were asked to assist in working with Wikipedia editors to revise the submitted article according to your policies and best practices. We published the disclosure statement on our user page to indicate our relationship with Leadership Now. Do you have any feedback to the revised stub that was submitted on March 21 and how we can improve the draft? Thank you. McP2022 (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Since you are being paid to edit Draft:Leadership Now Project I would assume that you have the required experience and knowledge to do so, I will not be helping you promote the project, I am a volunteer here. Theroadislong (talk) 17:49, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

rejected submission (for an article on the Workshop on Algorithms in Bioinformatics WABI)
I sent a reply/rebuttal/questions through the general channel, but I am not sure who actually gets it, so I thought I'd send you a message directly.

This is about the (revised) submission for the Workshop on Algorithms in Bioinformatics (WABI), which you very promptly reviewed (thanks!) and rejected (not so happy, obviously ;-). You rejected it on grounds of (1) its looking more like advertising -- not being neutral, (ii) not containing references to independent, verifiable sources, and (iii) pointing instead to things I created. Each of these statements is in fact wrong: let me go through them in reverse order.

(iii) I did not create any of the sources referred to in the entry (references to proceedings and articles, Wikipedia entries, conference web sites, etc.), except for a single one, the WABI web page at wabi-conference.org. I have no association of any kind with any of the others, was not invited to review them, did not provide any information for them, etc.

(ii) All references (other than to the WABI web page at wabi-conference.org) are to conference proceedings, produced and published by academic publishers (Springer Verlag for Lecture Notes in Computer Science, Dagstuhl for the Leibnitz International Proceedings in Informatics), to journals from a professional society (ACM, the Association for Computing Machinery, the main professional association for computer scientists, publisher of a couple dozen journals, including Ubiquity, and of several dozen conferences) and from another commercial publisher (BioMed Central, publisher of the journal Algorithms in Molecular Biology), and, for each conference, to the web site set up by the conference organizers for that year (if still up) or the corresponding conference entry in researchr.org, a platform that collects information about publications (in journals and conferences) across most scientific disciplines and is a widely used tool in science. All of these are, as requested, independent, verifiable, and trusted (at least by everyone in science).

(i) The entry I submitted is not advertising: it simply states basic facts about the conference, such as history, motivation, goals, organization, procedures, past events); it makes no claims of excellence or influence or attendance size or uniqueness or any other perceived quality. In fact, I deliberately copied in structure and in choice of references the existing Wikipedia entries for our two sister conferences,  Research in Computational Biology (RECOMB) and Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology (ISMB) -- please look up those two entries, as the comparison is important.

The information provided in all three entries (WABI, RECOMB, ISMB) is identical in nature and is supported in exactly the same way -- if you check those two Wiki entries, you'll see that their references are, as for my submission, composed mostly of pointers to past meetings of the conference (proceedings and/or web sites), plus the next meeting, plus one or two references relating to their history (the ISCB society for ISMB, for instance). The only significant difference is in the formatting of the references: I simplified the text associated with each proceedings/website reference (writing just WABI 2xxx), whereas both ISMB and RECOMB opted to use the full academic style for each reference, taking a few lines for each. My rationale was that these references are just links (for RECOMB and ISMB as well as for WABI) and made to be followed by clicking, so that the full academic style significantly increases the size of the article without adding information. But I am happy to rewrite them in the full academic style if you prefer.

All three conferences are closely related, take place yearly, have been around for over 20 years each, share many of the same researchers in their governing structure, and share a large fraction of attendees each year. The wiki entries are nearly identical in construction and content across all three. Yet two are actual Wikipedia entries, but the third, the one I submitted, is rejected. Why? Have the standards changed since the ISMB and RECOMB entries were accepted?

Please reconsider your decision.

Thank you, Bernard Moret — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.151.219.183 (talk) 10:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft was declined not rejected. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something or someone Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Also see other stuff exists.Research in Computational Molecular Biology is tagged for notability and primary sources, so is NOT a good article to model yours on. Theroadislong (talk) 10:45, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply.  So the issue seems to be notability.  That does not explain why Wikipedia has entries for Research in Computational Biology and Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology even though they are basically identical in notability, but I do get the point about "other stuff exists", thanks!
 * I am trying to understand what notability means in a scholarly context.
 * The three conferences I mentioned are all "notable" in the sense that the papers published in the proceedings of these conferences get cited by many other researchers in other publication outlets (other conferences, other journals) and so collectively accumulate hundreds to thousands of verifiable references from reliable sources every year. It's not clear from the "notability" entry whether such references to individual papers within a journal or conference would count toward notability of the journal or conference itself.  (Although that is definitely the case within the scientific community, where journals and conferences that get more citations are ranked higher.)   There is also a question of how one would document this type of notability.
 * On the other hand, if the references must be to the conference or journal as a whole, then the whole category of scientific conferences and journals falls off Wikipedia almost entirely -- the nature of scientific research means that good conferences and journals do not attract attention from outside unless some unusual confluence of world events and particular scientific breakthrough arises. If that is indeed Wikipedia policy (and the many Wikipedia entries about scientific conferences and journals are all, in effect, historical accidents and now deletions in waiting ;-), then I will withdraw my submission. 98.151.219.183 (talk) 11:38, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Remitly AfC submission
Hey there! I'm a Remitly employee whose AfC request you recently declined. I wanted to follow up and thank you for reviewing the article draft. I tried to keep my submission short, use independent sources, and employ a neutral tone. Your decline note said that I fell short of Wikipedia's content guidelines, and I want to understand better in what way the draft wasn't appropriate. Could I ask if there's anything I could do to improve the copy and/or help my chances of getting a future draft approved? In particular, I'm wondering which parts of the draft you felt read more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia entry.

Again, thanks very much for your time. I look forward to hearing from you. JM at Remitly (talk) 21:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 16:02:56, 30 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Neeraj395
Hi, I'm very new to wikipedia , I would like to what went wrong in this article ?

Neeraj395 (talk) 16:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I want to discuss some important thing
Hello, I want to discuss some good and important projects with you is it possible that we could connect personally via email? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisafrag (talk • contribs) 18:12, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No, you can ask me anything here in public though. Theroadislong (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

hi i need your assistance in making this article publish
can you please help with this article I have cited every known reference which I got on the internet still it declined and the reason mentioned is this does not meet Wikipedia guidelines with reference Draft:Saurabh Vaibhav — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koundinyajayanth (talk • contribs) 08:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Chitiz Agarwal
Hello, thank you for reviewing my article on Chitiz Agarwal. Can you tell me what credible sources are you looking for for this particular article? All the sources added to the page are from high-quality leading publications in India and even abroad like the Forbes website. I'd love to know how I can improve on this article and my writing. Thank you for your time. Looking forward to your reply.
 * Forbes and press releases are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 06:08, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry I beg to differ. The draft has news articles, not only press releases, as sources too. And Forbes is a very credible source in the business world. The link you sent me clearly states that news organizations are credible sources for referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#News_organizations. Can you please take a fresh look at the draft? I will substitute the press releases for other references too. Many thanks! Alisha3107 (talk) 09:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * See FORBESCON you are using what looks like a profile hosted by Forbes which is not independent. Theroadislong (talk) 09:57, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, noted. I will replace the Forbes reference too. Will it be fine then? :) Alisha3107 (talk) 10:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I have removed all the objections you had and edited the draft. Please see now. Thank you! :) Alisha3107 (talk) 10:10, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * feel free to re-submit Draft:Chitiz Agarwal I will leave it for another reviewer to see. Theroadislong (talk) 10:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Alisha3107 (talk) 10:15, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

The source material for Flora Cheung has been modified
Hello, the source information of Flora Cheung has been modified. If you have any more questions, please check it out, thank you! 14.136.61.154 (talk) 19:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * hkmdb and huneyzworld.blogspot.com are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 20:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Nanoschool
Hello, I noticed that you have mentioned on my draft, "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nanoschool" that this is for advertising purpose. I want to tell you that this is not for promotion or advertising, all the information is taken from their websites as mentioned. Please note that I am new to wikipedia and have just started this. Can you please tell me why you thought that the article was advertising, so that I can work on delivering best articles as per wikipedia policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Nanoscience2 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Nanoschool has zero independent sources which is what we base articles on, we have no interest whatsoever in what their website says. Theroadislong (talk) 06:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, I have included their two websites i.e. https://nstc.in/ and https://nanoschool.in/. Can't we take content from organization's websites? 1Nanoscience2 (talk) 03:56, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes  you can include content from their websites but it doesn't contribute to any notability, articles should be based on independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 04:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Theroadislong for reviewing my Draft Article Khawaja Abdul Haye
Can you please let me know in detail about your reservations on the draft. Are the existing footnotes wrongly cited or you are referring to the material that doesn't include citation at all? Appreciate your feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaadShakeelKhan (talk • contribs) 17:02, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There are at least 6 sections of the draft with no sources whatsoever, each and every statement of fact in a WP:BLP requires and independent reliable source placed after the content that it supports. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I understand your concern, but I've one confusion here. It's a biography, how can I give sources of the life events. I researched a lot of biographies on Wikipedia before creating this draft.
 * Also, I must make your attention to one point that the biography is from 1910 - 1991 and the published work which can be challenged, for that I have made a lot of effort to find the sources for it. But how can I find the sources of life events? SaadShakeelKhan (talk) 19:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You will need to cite the source from where ever you got the information, articles are based on reliable sources, NOT what we personally know. If you cannot find sources then remove the content. Theroadislong (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I got your point Theroadislong, I'll update accordingly.
 * Also, I need your guidance regarding one point. For content related to the education of the person for whom I'm writing the biography. Can I upload the degrees (graduation, post graduate, doctorate, etc.), can they be accepted as a reliable source? SaadShakeelKhan (talk) 19:53, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No they are primary sources and cannot be used. Theroadislong (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thankyou Theroadislong. Appreciate your support and guidance. SaadShakeelKhan (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong I have removed major chunk of the data without sources, can you please review and update. Thank you. SaadShakeelKhan (talk) 07:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear @Theroadislong, can you please review the revise article. Thankyou 2001:16A2:CE9A:FA00:2C05:A422:BEE:EC94 (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

I removed all the unreliable sources from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Johnel_NG
Hello, I've received your review regarding my article and made sure to edit it according to your remarks. I removed all unreliable sources (medium, IMDb, AOTY and Wikidata). I'd appreciate it if you review it again and approve it or else guide me on how to improve it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnamani John (talk • contribs) 19:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There is nothing at Draft:Johnel NG] to suggest that they are notable or pass the criteria at WP:NSINGER, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 19:13, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * MusicBrainz is a reliable source. I added the musicbrainz cite. Nnamani John (talk) 19:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * MusicBrainz appears to be user edited, so not reliable or independent. Theroadislong (talk) 19:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Noble and Greenough School
Hey, I just went to Noble and Greenough School to clear out all the old unsourced promo crap and found you had already done it - Thanks. I had left it initially as I was not in a good mood due to real-life issues but had it on a list to go back too.... but no need as you happened to find the same decade old crap and dealt with it :) - Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * My pleasure it was a pleasant diversion from AFC. Theroadislong (talk) 19:54, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Bristol University Press
It reads like it was written by a marketing department because it was written by a marketing department. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * haa haa so it was! 19:55, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galerie_Chantal_Crousel
Hi there!

Thanks for coming by and leaving me a message about this page.

You've marked this as a speedy deletion but I've left you a contested message about why I believe it should stay.

Would you be able to help me out in understanding how we could continue and work on this article till submission? I've read through the guidelines before submitting the article and don't believe it significantly violates any of them!

Cheers, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lorposralem (talk • contribs) 08:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is NOT for merely providing information. A Wikipedia article about an organisation must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about them, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Your article has no independent sources and no indication of notability. Theroadislong (talk) 09:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

My article draft
Thank you for the response on my article draft, Draft:Deborah Gail Stone. In response to your rejection, I just wanted to note that while I can remove the sources linking to DeviantArt and YouTube, the Blogspot sources are actually uploads of a credible magazine that happens to have been stored on somebody's blog. I can remove the blogspot URLs and cite the actual magazine for a more solid independent secondary source, but I don't know whether to keep the blogspot URL as the source's location or not. PetSematary182 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182

Request on 13:55:38, 4 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Gregsheehan98
Gregsheehan98 (talk) 13:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am just wondering what parts in particular you believed read like an advertisement? So that I can make the appropriate changes.

Thank you
 * Your draft User:Gregsheehan98/sandbox reads like an advert from beginning to end. A Wikipedia article summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organisation. Theroadislong (talk) 15:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Help
Whats the best source to cite "Singer"? It's only one single out so far — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damerynjah (talk • contribs) 16:27, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Newspaper or magazine reviews would help, but if she doesn't pass the criteria at WP:NSINGER then it is pointless to continue. Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

AfC & CSD (EIEIO)
Hey Theroadislong! I appreciate you rejecting drafts that are clearly nonsense. I've always erred on the side of declining with the van reason, because that will automatically add a G3 template to the draft. Should we be using one method over another? Bkissin (talk) 17:40, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I sometimes add G3 after having rejected the draft, I don't know what is best practice though. Theroadislong (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Why doesn't Cecilia Butsi qualify as notable enough for a Wikipedia article?
She is a Catholic Beati which should be enough. Thank you Asitevershallbe (talk) 18:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Neither of your sources look to be reliable. Theroadislong (talk) 18:05, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * One of the sources was accepted as reliable on the Martyrs of Songkhon article. Asitevershallbe (talk) 19:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have tagged it as unreliable. See other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 19:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Storelocal
Hello, can you tell me why this submission is "blatant advertising" compared to any other company pages? I don't work for them, I use their services and learned about them and thought they would make a unique submission. I also sourced industry publications. Other company pages, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boar%27s_Head_Provision_Company, read in much the same manner. Appreciate any additional feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ParisBlue (talk • contribs) 17:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, content like " Storelocal uses the combined strength of its 1,300 member facilities to offer a variety of services to members, including customer acquisition, financial assistance, marketing support, and technology" certainly looks like blatant advertising to me. Also see other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 17:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tayebeh_Chayani
hello You rejected my article. I am a beginner in writing. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saeidchayani (talk • contribs) 09:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

soran ebrahim
hi recently I create a page for soran ebrahim an actor from Kurdistan I cant fix the issues that you want. I don't have any source for the page what should I do? i cant find any source about this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zanko namdari (talk • contribs) 08:51, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * See also Help_desk.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 09:15, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless you find reliable independent sources we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 09:24, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Nyasia Chane'l
Good Afternoon,

You recently approved my client Skerrit Bwoy's wiki page and I thank you for that. However you declined my other client Nyasia Chane'l page citing lack of enough notable references. I added more references of news stories and articles to go along with the two I referenced before (Jamaica Observer & SC Democrat). I added her songkick page that has a record of past performances and the announcement for her performance she did as part of the Soul Train tribute to Aretha Franklin. I also included links to her podcast information and links including an interview she did with with former Mayor of Peekskill New York. In addition I also listed her music releases which corresponds with her Disog page. I understand Wikipedia has standards however Nyasia Chane'l is a hardworking independent artist and entrepreneur and a wikipedia page would be extremely helpful to her career. Please reconsider. Thank you.

Draft page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nyasia_Chane%27l
 * You need to make the paid editing disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 18:40, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I understand — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizgirl1470 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I believe I have removed the text which was similar to the website please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizgirl1470 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I believe i have addressed the copyright concerns. I appreciate your assistance Wizgirl1470 (talk) 20:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You may be blocked from editing without further warning if you make any further edits without responding to the inquiry you received regarding undisclosed paid editing. Theroadislong (talk) 20:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I placed the disclosure on my talk page as requested I will not resubmit the article until I get more publication references that fit the criteria that is required. I hope I dis the paid disclosure correctly. Again thank you for your patience. Wizgirl1470 (talk) 21:16, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * A disclosure "on your talk page" has never been requested. A disclosure on the talk page of the draft, and a disclosure on your user page (red link in all of your messages) are available options. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Souman Bose
Hi @Theroadislong,

can you review the article for souman bose. changes has been done and add the reliable sources.

Thanks // Narendra Narendra.neeraj (talk) 05:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Souman Bose
Hi Theroadislong,

can you review the article for souman bose.

Narendra.neeraj (talk) 05:45, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Roaduvila
Hello, I noticed that you had accepted this draft. I am not entirely sure that this one was ready for mainspace though, as it is lacking sources, and was created by a likely undisclosed paid editor, User:Travancorecet. One source is actually a link to a non-existent Wikipedia page, and the Travancore Engineering college seems to get an strange amount of attention in the article. If you still think that it is ready for mainspace, I would like to know how, as it may help me to improve my own reviewing skills. Cheers. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 07:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: Editor indefinitely blocked for spam, Travancore engineering college is now at AfD, due to a total lack of notability. Now that the notability, or rather lack thereof, of the TEC has been established, I'm going to clean up that article. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 07:39, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the improvements whilst I slept, places are usually deemed notable, but the Travancore Engineering college is clearly not. Theroadislong (talk) 08:22, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries, there's not much left of the article now though after removing the promo stuff and removing some unsourced content. I noticed that they seemed to have slipped in "Thousands of students enhanced their careers successfully from this glorious and colorful campus." into the Roaduvila article. It was a rather sneaky bit of piggybacking their garbage onto an article about the local area. Anyway, I'll be watching them very closely if their unblock request is successful, though I doubt it will be. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 13:53, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:French the Kid
Hello there; while reading your rejection of Draft:French the Kid, I noted that you weren't clear of how he passed NSINGER. I note that several of his songs - alongside Never Been Ordinary - have charted in the UK, which would count towards meeting NSINGER. Apologies if I come off as rude here. Hwqaksd (talk) 22:10, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Feel free to re-submit. Theroadislong (talk) 08:20, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright. Hwqaksd (talk) 15:54, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft
This is a response to this comment, Wikipedia is not a "how to site" I was just giving a example of the code in action. This article for example, Java, has a example showing you how to display "hello world". My example is like that. So can you explain why on Java it is allowed, but not on mine? Thanks Green Echidna (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Zerdava
Hello, Theroadislong. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Zerdava, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Help with 360 Agency Berlin Draft
Hi, thank you for reviewing my article 360 Agency Berlin. Could you help me pick the references apart? I'd be happy to know which ones are less credible or need replacements. It would help make the necessary improvement to the article. Thank you. Iamnvna (talk) 17:18, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * and are press releases, so not independent,  doesn't mention 360 Agency,  appears to be an interview, so not independent, This  is a passing mention, this  is written by Andrea Henao so not independent, this  doesn't mention 360 Agency. Theroadislong (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the feedback! Iamnvna (talk) 12:29, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Help?
Hi, I don't think I fully understand why my Wikipedia article was declined last week. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.51.170 (talk) 18:25, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't say what it was, so I can't really help? Theroadislong (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

"Albumin Dialysis With The Molecular Adsorbents Recirculating System (MARS®)" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Albumin Dialysis With The Molecular Adsorbents Recirculating System (MARS®) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 15 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. BD2412 T 04:59, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

created Draft please help me to published it
Respected Theroadislong,

This is inform you that I have recently created Draft:Nk Dairy Equipments please help me to make it publish and also suggest me about to remove any content that violate Wikipedia guidelines as I am confused in that and i also don't want violate any guideline. Please help!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnysinghwiki (talk • contribs) 06:45, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Why not accepted?
I noticed Wikipedia didn't have an article about a billion-dollar company Worldcoin. So I wrote a short one, only to be rebuffed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Worldcoin Could someone please let me know what is wrong with my submission? You are saying the article does "not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject" I am using references to Technology Review, Bloomberg, BuzzFeed News and CNBC, all of them wrote articles specifically about this project. I am not connected to the project, but I feel that Wikipedia should have an article about company that has a billion+ dollar evaluation. Especially since there is a talk of the company doing shady stuff and people will be looking for information.109.183.207.18 (talk) 12:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It hasn't even launched yet? Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

independent sources
I try to edit the page of Prof. Dr. M. Levent Kurnaz. I added the external links for his books and his google scholar page. What else should be added? Could you please explain a bit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Prof._Dr._M._Levent_Kurnaz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maymooncuk (talk • contribs) 12:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless he passes the criteria at WP:NACADEMIC then you need to base the draft on what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about him showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Theroadislong (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Petra Richterova
hi...left you a revision with references...someone else responded...as before, it seemed like a bot response...please check, including my response to that other "person"

thanks! Phigeus (talk) 13:36, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * All biographies are required to have inline citations, please place your references directly after the content that they support, there is help here WP:REFB. Theroadislong (talk) 13:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have done that, but someone else moved it to draft with a very cursory explanation, has not responded to my response, and meanwhile someone else picked up and wrote the subject--not sure how s/he found her email--very frustrating Phigeus (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You have NOT done that, all your references are dumped at the end of the draft? Theroadislong (talk) 14:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Stephen J. Morewitz
Admittedly I was on a bit of a tangent with that one and I may get my hands slapped from someone but what I said is true. I started to trim it myself but that was going to take some significant time then thought why, as a volunteer, am I spending my free time for a paid editor? S0091 (talk) 21:17, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed even, with 150 less references it is still bloated and will require much work for it to be acceptable. Theroadislong (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I bailed on that one as well after trying to help in early stages. It's just too much.
 * This is the issue with COI, paid or not, they have no neutral barometer on what is necessary to include v. kitchen sink. Star   Mississippi  17:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Harvie P. Jones
no issue if you want to AfD. I think the Huntsville coverage pushes him over, but he's not 100% clear pass. It's one of those "I think so" gray areas where my love for history/museums nudges some closer to accept. Have a great day! Star  Mississippi  17:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries lots of Florida Army drafts are borderline. Theroadislong (talk) 18:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Request on 16:18:06, 19 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Biryani House
Sheru is one of the example for the society because he started his life as young entrepreneur and photographer as street child without any loos their career focus he is a one the the most followed younger Indian photographer.

Biryani House (talk) 16:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, folk I'm a new on Wikipedia and I have no advance knowledge regarding the create new page, and i am try to create a biography page on Indian photographer Sher photography knowing as sheru photography and say cheese and their are many reliable sources on Google and other independent website and book sources but I'm unable create it please, help me creating page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biryani House (talk • contribs) 16:22, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Sher photography has no independent, reliable sources and zero indication that the person is notable and why have you miss-spelt their name in the title? Theroadislong (talk) 16:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

My draft on Object Shows
Hello! Since you said my draft has no resources, I need to add more resources later on! Maybe you will ask User:Blubewwy because she knows a lot about object shows, go ask him. Lilkitty200 (talk) 17:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It is your draft and your responsibility to add reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Governors-general and Viceroys of Portuguese America
I appreciate your timely response and availability, thank you. I have now resubmitted the article for review.Wareno (talk) 15:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Sameer Wankhede
I added reputed independent secondary sources as reference like NDTV, Quint, Hindustan Times and more. Please check properly and consider the article. Since, Sameer Wankhede is an important figure, the article about him is a necessity of time. Please review my submission about Sameer Wankhede at the earliest possible. Thank you for giving your precious your time to my article. Integrityrules17 (talk) 14:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * See reply above, no need to start a second section. Another reviewer will look at it all in good time, it could be up to three months there is so rush. Theroadislong (talk) 14:16, 21 April 2022 (UTC)