User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 86

Question about my Article Senegalese people in Germany
Can you please help me find more reliable resources about Senegalese people in Germany?
 * You have misunderstood how Wikipedia works. we don't write a draft and then look for sources.

Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable topic. Theroadislong (talk) 14:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * What I mean by that is help me look for more resourceful information. Can you please help me do that? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 14:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I don't have the first idea how to find sources for Draft:Senegalese people in Germany it does not appear to be a notable topic I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 14:49, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Baljinder Kaur (singer)
You and I have both declined this draft. The first submitter was blocked for spamming, and then the second submitter popped up, which looks like sockpuppetry. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
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In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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Hamdard Public College
You previously edited Hamdard Public College and please take a look again. I don't think these are necessary. Thank you. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:20, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Problem with article Jeff Bourns
Hey mate, I am a new editor trying to keep neutral fact based positions on a new form of tennis for persons with disabilities. Adaptive Standing Tennis. Recently, there was a user who left a message, which was later deleted by her, about the article Jeff Bourns being a paid article, which is false. Can you please offer me some guidance or support? This came out of left field so I am trying to figure it out. ZnYddRoll (talk) 00:11, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Joseph Pyrz
Hello, The Joseph Pyrz Wikipedia page in English is a direct translation of the French and Polish versions, which has been published for many years: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pyrz

Please can you review your rejection of the publication?

Kind regards MWATTO Mwatto (talk) 16:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft was declined NOT rejected, the English Wikipedia has stricter guidelines on inclusion, it is irrelevant that they have a French article, they will need to pass WP:NARTIST to warrant an article here. Theroadislong (talk) 16:30, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Information panels as source
Hi, Where does it say that information panels are not a valid source? Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:36, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You will have to give me more context, which article/draft are you referring to? Theroadislong (talk) 21:52, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I suspect it's about this. I was curious so I went digging. PRAXIDICAE🌈 21:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes just found it, sources need to be published, we can't rely on the fact that you have seen an information panel in the church! Theroadislong (talk) 21:59, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Joseph Pyrz - justifications for inclusion
Some of Joseph Pyrz works are significant monuments, for example: - Monument to Olivier Messiaen is at the centre of the town Vouzeron in France; (Olivier Messiaen: French composer, organist, and ornithologist who was one of the major composers of the 20th century (source: Wikipedia)) - The stone sculpture of St Rita, in the St Rita chapel of the Basilica de Sacre Coeur in Paris was sculpted by Joseph Pyrz and is the main and permanent feature of the chapel since the 1980s. - Wikipedia (english) pages of Durham and Chester cathedrals make reference to Joseph Pyrz works, where his works are predominantly exposed in dedicated chapels. The sculpture in Durham cathedral being a major focal point of the Galilee chapel within the cathedral. The Durham Cathedral and Chester Cathedral Wikipedia pages should include links to a dedicated Joseph Pyrz Wikipedia page.

Joseph Pyrz has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition: The centre d'arts in Schorbach was created specifically to house the works of Joseph Pyrz. A path near the centre has been named after Joseph Pyrz https://www.outdooractive.com/fr/route/randonnee/lorraine/balade-autour-de-schorbach/231615581/

Joseph Pyrz is represented by permanent exhibitions at the Centre d'art Schorbach, notable cathedrals, the Cultural centre of the Pomarede: http://la-pomarede.net/sculptures.html, and a significant number of churches in Europe have Joseph Pyrz works as the focal point of the church altar, or in dedicated chapels.

Links to articles written about Joseph Pyrz have been added to the draft Wikipedia page, demonstrating the citation of peers.

The Cultural centre of the Pomerade includes articles about the permanent works on display: http://la-pomarede.net/documents/sculptures.pdf

Joseph Pyrz is a notable artist in France and Poland, and was commissioned to produce art works for notable Cathedrals in the UK.

Wikipedia pages in French and Polish already exist, so this draft is to produce an English Wikipedia page, to be linked to the French and Polish versions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwatto (talk • contribs) 09:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Please review
Additional references has been added to the Draft:Rasheq Rahman for the notability of the subject. The references are independent of the subject and has detailed coverage. Please review the page again. Thank you in advance. অদৃশ্য মানব (talk) 19:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi অদৃশ্য মানব, you have resubmitted the draft so another reviewer will review it. It is generally best to get a different perspective but what I can tell you is commercial sites like Rokomari and general profiles, which are often written by the subject or their public relations people, are not reliable sources so should not be used.  S0091 (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @অদৃশ্য মানব add ping. S0091 (talk) 19:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

thank you for your guidance. I will change those. I sincerely hope that you will help me again in the future. অদৃশ্য মানব (talk) 20:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Ian Maksin Article
Hi!

All of the information written about the subject of the article came from me sitting next to and speaking to them in a conversation. How do I cite primary source information?
 * You cannot. A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. We have zero interest in what they say about themselves. Theroadislong (talk) 14:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in July 2022
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Emma Lovewell
Hi,

You recently commented to me: Comment: Not clear what actually makes her notable? Theroadislong (talk) 15:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

So I look up what qualifies as notable and she has several articles written about her in reliable secondary sources (TIME, Conde Nast, People, Health Digest, etc.) about her as a Peloton Instructor, Dancer, and business owner.

What makes her any less notable than these Peloton instructors that have published articles? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jess_King https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_D%27Ercole

When you look at the Peloton Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peloton_Interactive), there are several instructors that have linked articles. I just don't understand what makes my article less relevant/notable than others that were approved.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you so much!

Emily — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilyBertagnolli (talk • contribs) 17:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Many articles were created before the AFC process was introduced, so poor quality articles exist but that is not an excuse to add more per other articles exist. You say "there are several instructors that have linked articles" but the vast majority do not have articles. You can get other opinions at WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk I might be wrong. Theroadislong (talk) 18:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

New message from Stifle
Stifle (talk) 08:25, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Question about my Article Sierra Leoneans in Sweden
Can you please help me find some resourceful information on Sierra Leoneans in Sweden? Like books, websites, etc.?

AmericanEditor350 (talk) 14:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I sincerely doubt that they exist. Theroadislong (talk) 14:45, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * But you do understand I try my best to find resourceful information, right? And I am not here to violate any guidelines whatsoever. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 14:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, but to be clear if I create an article I gather ALL the sources first, before I start writing, I don't write and then look for sources! Theroadislong (talk) 14:51, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

no ads
Where are the ads in the vagonsoft content that I have published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.171.23.144 (talk) 08:11, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:VagonSoft is all advertising. Wikipedia is NOT for merely providing information. A Wikipedia article about an organisation must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about them, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company do you have a conflict of interest by any chance?. Theroadislong (talk) 08:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I never accept this. and I do not have any conflict of interest or negotiation with that company. Wikipedia is for informational purposes only and is free. Even if I am not a member, I have edited thousands of content so far. This is slander without proof. Please change your path, this is not correct behavior. 78.171.23.144 (talk) 11:52, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

press releases and blogs confer zero notability.
"Content from websites whose content is largely user-generated is generally unacceptable. Sites with user-generated content include personal websites, personal and group blogs (excluding newspaper and magazine blogs), content farms, Internet forums, social media sites, fansites, video and image hosting services, most wikis and other collaboratively created websites." Jdtw2022 (talk) 10:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Theroadislong I for the page took megazine sites to do some referencing Jdtw2022 (talk) 10:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Brett Coulter Draft
Totally Agreed ! Thank you for spotting that, silly mistake. I will remove it I think I just wanted to make sure I provided links to some old shows I will replace them without imbd

Thank you Professor Benjamin Caldwell P.H.D. (talk) 16:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

ani thread
might be of interest to you PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Question
Have you met any people born in Africa who live in the United Kingdom? If so, which countries were they born in? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That is entirely irrelevant, the people I have met have no bearing on anything to do with Wikipedia, please read the mountain of advice you have received on your talk page and stop creating disruptive articles. Theroadislong (talk) 17:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you believe there is any way to make any of my articles less distruptive? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * no, none of the articles are suitable for Wikipedia, all have been sent to WP:AFD, you continue to ignore ALL advice, please note competence is required and you are close to being blocked for disruption. Theroadislong (talk) 18:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Zowey Rens
Hello, Theroadislong! I appreciate all the feedbacks. But I just want to ask questions about the article I am making for one of the Filipino authors I look up to. It was stated that there is no indication that the person is notable. I just followed the WP:ANYBIO guidelines and saw that a person becomes notable if they received awards. The person stated in the article is also being talked by readers and my peers. What other things should I improve? Do I need to put more references?

Thank you. Kaizen the Great (talk) 06:23, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The awards need to be notable ones, ie. they have their own Wikipedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 06:36, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I already added references to the International Awards section. They are conducted by notable publishers and community organizations in India. Draft:Zowey Rens - Wikipedia Is that already okay? Kaizen the Great (talk) 07:53, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You may have added references BUT the awards are not notable (no Wikipedia articles) so do not help establish the subjects notability. Theroadislong (talk) 07:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, so awards are only notable if they have Wikipedia articles, which means that Wikipedia articles are the only things that make an award notable, then? Not other reliable sources? And they don't become notable if they are conducted by notable publishers and community organizations? Kaizen the Great (talk) 08:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * And I've also read that using Wikipedia articles as sources are not allowed WP:CIRC, so even if these awards have Wikipedia articles, I still couldn't use them as a reference, that's why I used other reliable sources. Kaizen the Great (talk) 08:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Kate Cowle
hi - I think i've removed all the peacock words you mentioned. But those "Tug on her heart as the silent outreach of the soul toward eternal beauty" words are a quote, directly from Kate Cowle's presentation speech to the Naturalist Club, as per the citation. Bethcarey (talk) 09:49, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Something is missing from my draft page
Hello, I am trying to draft an article yet I am being told a tag of some sort is missing. Where do I put said tag or whatever it is I am missing from my article to complete the request?

Thank you, Joeyiannino (talk) 22:38, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

mpam FC
i just want to know why did you reject my page for mpam FC like what do i have to add or remove and what did i do wrong Demetrissss (talk) 18:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC) The topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Not everything warrants an article I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 19:02, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Piotr Witkowski
Hi, I've changed all the draft cause it was still not good enough, I've translated it from polish Wiki and added more reliable source so if its still not as good as should maybe you will help me fix it

Thx for message Krkkc (talk) 19:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Flipper's Roller Boogie Palace
Hi: I reworked this submission several weeks ago in response to your assessment, deleting several sentences that could be interpreted as promotional. But there's been no feedback since then. What else do I need to do to get this published? Thanks for your time and help. --Kevin Kevinaitch (talk) 20:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Piotr Witkowski


A tag has been placed on Piotr Witkowski requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Curbon7 (talk) 21:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Manual move to draftspace
Don't forget to R2 tag when you manually move an article to draftspace. Curbon7 (talk) 21:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 21:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to request you review my Draft before I resubmit
Good afternoon! A year ago my Draft article was Declined. Draft:Bill McCloud I've been working on it off and on since then. Could you please find the time to look it over. I've made efforts to better establish notability, provide better references, and include more sources from across the nation. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Neojin9 (talk) 21:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:X=Prem
I believe I have addressed your concern about notability in this AfC. Please have a look. Thanks!--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I will leave it for other uninvolved reviewers thanks, I don't take kindly to being accused of Systemic bias. Theroadislong (talk) 20:06, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure. Sorry that you felt that way. I did not know someone can be accused of Systemic Bias, honestly. Because it is systemic, and pretty much every one suffers from systemic bias, in one way or the other. That is why I mentioned that it is okay to have systemic bias, because the whole system has that bias. That I accused you/others of systemic bias is perhaps one of my own systemic biases :) Regards, --Dwaipayan (talk) 03:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Highfield Boat
Hi, thanks for your comments last night. You say that Avon Inflatables and Zodiac Nautic pages have the same issues as my HIghfield Boats pages, nevertheless theirs have been published and I have been tracking them for around 4 months and they are still up there. Does this mean that Highfield Boats can be published and then improved? I am still editing other stories to try to earn my credibility to try to get Highfield Boats published. Many thanks. Marina MarinaGraceJohnson (talk) 07:54, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Alfred Cowles & Retroactive Notability
Hi there,

I was looking at the Alfred Cowles entry and found a stub indicating a need for secondary sources to support notability. I'm new to Wikipedia and there's alot to get my head around, so please give me some slack. In Economics Alfred Cowles and greater yet, the foundation that bares his name are foundational in the history of Economics so I was intially surprised to see so little written about him, and further still, questions regarding Cowles's notability. However, in my search for secondary sources on Alfred Cowles himself, I found the area lacking to some extent. Some books dedicate a section discussing his life and his contribution to Economics, but his fame seems to derive as a result of the impact of the Cowles foundation.

The problem in short, how to separate individual notability from notability arising due to academics working within an institution that bares his name. As an individual, he wrote some solid papers which were published in good journals, but from WP guidelines this is not enough. So given his notability is largely the product of instition which he funded and, in its early years, guided, should this in some retroactive way make Alfred Cowles as person notable?

An example would be William Deloitte. The firm that bares his name is amongst the largest accounting firms currently in operation. However, as an individual he lacks in notability. Who knew at that time Deloitte would transform into a global behemoth?

Apologies for the lack of brevity here, it's a bit of an ambiguous question and as someone new to wikipedia I thought you could either address the issue, or point me in the right direction.

Met vriendelijke groet, Sadke4 (talk) 09:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The article as written has more content about his relations than it does about him and notability cannot be inherited from them. Perhaps a brief paragraph at Cowles Foundation would be better than a stand alone article? Theroadislong (talk) 12:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

What do I need to add to get the article KLTR (Musician) Approved?
KLTR did the theme song for Need For Speed by EA Sports and has gathered a cult following on youtube. see here https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kltr+levantate Davidmontesi (talk) 21:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

religious arbitration
I'll revise the article with sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bezwenalife (talk • contribs) 16:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

WiTricity
Hello! I've submitted an edit request with a few suggested updates for the WiTricity article here. I've struggled to get editor feedback despite using Template:Request edit and I noticed you've edited the entry a few times. Do you have any interest in taking a look at the proposed updates? For what it's worth, I don't think reviewing will take long since the additions are single sentences.

Thanks either way! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:28, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Operation Mincemeat
Hi! Thank you for your feedback in Operation Mincemeat (musical). I've made some updates since you last reviewed, could you please take another look? Happy to make any further changes that you suggest. Thanks! Vero.i.am (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

edubudgie linux page
Thanks for checking the edubudgie linux page. This is my first submission and I have no idea how to get a wikipedia page about this linux distribution. Yes, I created the distro myself - but how would one get a wikipedia page about it if it is not written by me? If someone else can write one then that would be fantastic. There is a webpage and another article that I have written for it in a magazine along with a few reviews that other people have done as videos or articles. Can someone help point me in the right direction? The comment was that it looks like an advertisement which I can understand except for the fact that the project is not in any way monetized. What should i do here? Teacheradamodix (talk) 18:01, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something, Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. I suggest you wait until somebody entirely unconnected with your business decides to write an article. Theroadislong (talk) 18:20, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Request on 20:14:11, 13 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 184.153.57.225
184.153.57.225 (talk) 20:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You are are editing whilst logged out and you are a paid editor who has not made the required disclosure, I will not be offering you any assistance. Theroadislong (talk) 21:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Talk page
Hi. I think your mistaken. I did the edit as I thought nessesairy. Pleas revert it back to my edits. Thanks. Your Captain Kathryn Janeway (talk) 13:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not mistaken, your edit here Joe Nanini added Wikipedia as a reference, Wikipedia cannot reference itself. Theroadislong (talk) 13:18, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah sorry about that. Other than that can you revert it back? Just not the Wiki reference? Captain Kathryn Janeway (talk) 13:26, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No, you added nothing else of use. Theroadislong (talk) 13:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok😔 Captain Kathryn Janeway (talk) 13:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Rebecca Downs
You say none of the sources is reliable or independent, those are the ONLY sources with the BEST information. I want some help, could YOU find reliable sources for that article? If not, I am abandoning it. WhiplashLock2000 (talk) 13:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If those are the only sources then we cannot have an article, the draft has now been deleted, I suggest you find a notable topic. Theroadislong (talk) 14:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm out
You have multiple people on here with the same problem and you offer zero advice. Feedback matters - as an ACTUAL TEACHER I am telling you that. So I'm done. This website isn't worth the time it takes to try to create objective topics only to have them rejected because some admin drunk with power decides anything written by the person who made the thing must be an advertisement. If he/she had actually READ the material they would have seen that's not actually the case, but that didnt happen. Furthermore if I had been trying to make an ad it would have sounded really damn good rather than simply being facts about the thing, but that concept seems to be above and beyond whoever this person is. Literally I am looking at the SAME exact complaint directly above. I would have LOVED to work with someone who actually explains what it is that is NOT objective, removed or modified it, how to improve the topic, how to do this process well, etc., but nope. Not worth my time when we just receive shitty conceited feedback without any direction whatsoever. I'll put my efforts back into my software rather than contributing to this mess. If you were an ACTUAL editor youd know how this process works - and mind-reading isn't a part of it. Teacheradamodix (talk) 15:32, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * well, as a teacher, I'd expect you to know better, specifically that you are not the be-all-end-all of knowledge, particularly in areas (as in, editing Wikipedia) you have no experience in. TRL is not the problem here, they are a very helpful, well respected editor. PRAXIDICAE🌈 15:35, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You have misunderstood how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable topic. It is not a venue for telling the world about something you have created. Theroadislong (talk) 15:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

re: The Raw Society
I removed the two remaining external links. You said youtube is not a source but I'm not linking to Youtube, simply rewriting info from an article about The Raw Society. I also deleted the Membership section. Can you please approve the article now? Meistravels (talk) 18:35, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Need some help
Hi. I recently created this article Draft:Religion in Madagascar because Madagascar perhaps is one of only a few countries that don't have a Religion related page of their own on Wikipedia. But I don't know what to do now. Who is going to review it and make it a mainstream article. Do I need to submit it somewhere, or it will be assessed on its own? Regards Neplota (talk) 12:13, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I've add the submit template for you, the draft could do with more content and sourcing to be accepted.Theroadislong (talk) 12:18, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Playmaker Capital
Hello - can you please inform me of what needs to change in order to have the Playmaker Capital page approved? Playmaker fans (talk) 15:31, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It would need to be re-written in a neutral tone, referring to reliable independent sources with no spam links. 18:30, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Playmaker Capital
I have now updated the article and removed the external links as you suggested. Please advise of anything else that needs to change in order to have this page published. Playmaker fans (talk) 18:53, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia summarizes information that appears in independent reliable sources with significant coverage showing how a topic meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Your draft has no such sources, the external links that you correctly removed were primary sources so of no use as references. See WP:YFA and WP:REFB for further help and understand that creating a new article is the most difficult thing you can attempt here. You need to learn more about how Wikipedia works first and gain experience by editing other articles. 18:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Playmaker Capital
This is a page about a company though, so I am unsure what you mean by an independent reliable source that shows how this topic meets notability. Can you please provide an explanation of what needs to change more specifically. We want to create a page for this company as one does not already exist.

What do you consider to be a reliable source for this article to reference? Any tips or direction would be greatly appreciated. Playmaker fans (talk) 19:55, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Who's we? Accounts are to be handled by one person only per Wikipedia's username policy. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See WP:NCORP for the criteria you need to pass for a company to be notable, you will need reliable published sources from newspapers, magazines etc that cover them in significant depth and detail. Theroadislong (talk) 20:45, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Ahmed Dikko Biography Approval
Please I am creating WIKI Biography for Ahmed Dikko, a recognized personality in Port Harcourt Refinery Community, Rivers State Nigeria. What is the requirement to get approval for hosting on Wikipedia or Wikipedia Simple English. Shehudataplus (talk) 09:51, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You will need multiple independent reliable sources which cover him in depth, not his own website nnpcgroup.com or interviews or press releases. Theroadislong (talk) 10:11, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

individual contributor
The references are from linkedin and indeed. They aren't the new york times, but seem reliable to me. And as these are job role titles, these seem like appropriate sources. The articles are not mentioning the subject in passing. They are actually titled with the term. This is a real thing. It's big in the industry. I'm not making it up. And, it should be in wikipedia.

What in particular do you think is not up to snuff?

I've run into this on wikipedia before. Someone drops a pre-made blob of text on something as a critique. It may have lots of words, but it's not actionable. Stevebroshar (talk) 03:45, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry but Linkedin.com is NEVER a reliable source for anything, it is user edited. You will need at least three reliable sources that cover the term in depth. Theroadislong (talk) 07:15, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Revision
thank you for your speedy revision,

the subject of the article Draft: Joel Platt is notable due to their curation of the largest sports collection which contains some of the world's most historical sports artifacts, not just for meeting notable individuals. see Draft: Sports Immortals Collection

any additional assistance in constructing the article is appreciated.

best,

R6830 (talk) 13:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The Sports Immortals Collection is not notable either so that isn't going to help. Theroadislong (talk) 13:43, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Forres Sandle Manor Artical
Hi, thank you so much for reviewing the article about the school Forres Sandle Manor. I have made some new amendments to it. Can you help regarding why it is not quite there yet as a fully approved article? A huge thank you in advance, David David Woollatt (talk) 13:56, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See WP:NSCHOOL, not all schools are considered notable for inclusion especially private ones. You also need to address your conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 13:59, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Playmaker Capital
Hello,

I have now updated my disclosure on user page 'Playmaker fans" to clearly state that I am writing the article for Playmaker Capital.

Please advise whether this is sufficient disclosure per Wikipedia's policy. If so, may I have permission to edit the Playmaker Capital article further before resubmitting it for publication approval? Playmaker fans (talk) 15:23, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You are free to edit the draft Draft:Playmaker Capital and re-submit, but it doesn't appear to be notable. Theroadislong (talk) 15:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Forres Sandle Manor - Notable School
Hi, thank you so much for your comments. Forres Sandle Manor is as notable if not more so than existing UK independent schools who have articles such as Moyles Court, Ballard School, Sherborne School, and Canford School.

If you need further evidence, can you let me know so I can equip you with the details. Thank you again for your support in guiding me through the process, it really is appreciated. All the very best, David David Woollatt (talk) 14:56, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See other poor quality articles exist for that argument. Theroadislong (talk) 15:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Nothing serious
I saw that you approved William Davis Mackey, which includes a number of typical grammatical errors. Please have a look at such pages in the future. As of right now, I've corrected it. I was just curious about auto-patrol, really.  D IVINE  13:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * User:FloridaArmy is notorious for creating poor quality, BUT notable drafts, I accept them but am not prepared to clean them up. Theroadislong (talk) 13:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Haha, as I said before, it's nothing serious, I can understand that. Cheers  D IVINE  13:43, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you please tell me? is it Florida or your auto patrol is being automatically working after the draft got accepted?  D IVINE  15:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry  but I don't understand the question. Theroadislong (talk) 15:43, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have fixed those words again. Sometimes my laptop starts dancing unnaturally.  D IVINE  15:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I am still not clear what you are asking me though, sorry to be so dense! Theroadislong (talk) 15:51, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I thought FloridaArmy had autopatrolled, but when you accept a draft, you auto-mark the article as reviewed as autopatrolled. So, I was confused if this is you or Florida who has autopatrolled rights cause I didn't think or checked about it before and filed a complaint against him.  D IVINE  16:13, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ahh I see now, yes I assume when I accept an article it gets marked as auto patrolled. I will try to remember to untag their articles as patrolled in future. Theroadislong (talk) 16:51, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Request on 19:26:23, 22 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Xavier Serif
I need assistance with creation of wikipedia page for Nelly Sfeir Gonzalez.. I am perplexed that the founding editor of a peer reviewed academic journal (Bolivian Studies Journal), past president of SALALM an association of professional librarians with international membership, and the author of several prize winning books does not qualify. Note the article includes the website of the Bolivian. Studies Journal, a book review from Hispania journal, an official list of past Toribio Medina prize winners from the SALALM website. Please have a professional librarian review the article. It appears the initial reviewer has very little knowledge regarding the administration of academic libraries. Kindly escalate this matter to someone with more expertise and knowledge of yhe field.

Appreciatively,

Xavier Serif (talk) 19:26, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like the draft was deleted as a copyright infringement. Theroadislong (talk) 19:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft for HealthySure
Hey@Theroadislong, thanks for the super quick review. Have removed external links from the page and tried to have a more neutral view. Can you please check this again and suggest any changes that can be made?

Thanks again! Yashdama (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Still reads just like marketing and is poorly sourced. Theroadislong (talk) 15:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Will try to get it edited from some neutral party as well
 * Any suggestions from you that I can implement here? Yashdama (talk) 16:36, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Remove all unsourced content. Theroadislong (talk) 16:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey @Theroadislong removed unsourced content, also this article has no paid contributions.
 * Can you have a look now? Thanks in advance! Yashdama (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Replying to your last comment on the draft.
 * Updated the draft. Removed details about company's product. Just the name remains. Has proper citation.
 * - Writing that the company allowed same-sex partners promotional ? I think mentioning this is informative.
 * - the sentence in growth section shows how awareness about healthcare because of the pandemic helped the company/insurance industry in the country grow, how is this not relevant for company's growth section? Yashdama (talk) 19:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, I disagree and stand by my comments, but will not be reviewing the draft Draft:HealthySure again. Theroadislong (talk) 19:41, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:John R. Stuelpnagel
Hello, Theroadislong. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:John R. Stuelpnagel, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:02, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Navarik
Thank you for reviewing the Navarik wikipedia page. Navarik is important to many people in Vancouver and has a lot of employee's with Navarik on their LinkedIn employment history. Having a wikipedia page describe the company will help past, current and future employees with their career. Rhalldearn (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That has absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia's goals of building an encyclopaedia. Theroadislong (talk) 06:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Alan Barnard Draft
Hi @Theroadislong. Thank you for the speedy feedback. Any tips on what I should remove to make it sound less like a CV? Thanks in advance. Also, the article has no paid for contributions. Kind regards Karini.goosen (talk) 08:42, 22 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Theroadislong. Which 5 links is still external links? Please give some guidance regarding that? Kind regards @Karini.goosen 196.15.187.35 (talk) 07:16, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Here’s the first two it’s pretty obvious..., . Theroadislong (talk) 07:30, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Makayla Malaka Draft.
Hello Theroadislong,

Trust this meets you well.

I appreciate your gesture of taking out time to comment on my draft, severally, I have taken out time to get independent sources for this subject, I was glad when I recently saw an independent source of the subject which is the last two references on my draft, there are three other references which pass for WP:GNG and I got approval for it by a Wikipedia editor.

Most importantly, these sources are from reliable Newspaper in West Africa. My major concern is why you keep saying it doesn't pass for a Wikipedia article, you've declined the article once and even before I resubmit the new one I have just drafted, I get to see your comment.

Please kindly explain how it doesn't pass for a Wikipedia article after getting independent sources to verify the authenticity of the subject. Thank you. Karissa 247 (talk) 10:43, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not a question of " verifying the authenticity of the subject" you need to suggest how they pass WP:GNG or WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Greeny
Explain why you rejected my Greeny Phatom article Pddevlin041 (talk) 12:35, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I declined your draft I did not reject it, the reason is given in the large pink box and IMDb and YouTube are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Greenytoons
Greeny Phatom is a fairly obscure web cartoon despite its cult following so the most reliable source you can is tv tropes and the official sources are all inaccurate Pddevlin041 (talk) 13:21, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless there are multiple reliable independent sources, we can't have an article about it. Theroadislong (talk) 13:23, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:EasyPeasy Method
Good afternoon. May I ask why I failed to meet the source requirements for this page? Shlyst (talk) 19:17, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure... easypeasymethod.org is a primary source, Unddit, YouTube and goodreads.com are not reliable sources, www.allencarr.com  and en.prnasia.com don’t mention the topic. Theroadislong (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

hi dear
Draft:Hubdar Brohi accept please thank you Hubdarbrohii (talk) 12:54, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected like most us, you are not notable enough for an article, see Wikipedia is not about YOU. Theroadislong (talk) 12:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

AfC draft Draft:BUUNT
Hi @Theroadislong, I noticed you also reviewed Draft:BUUNT. I nominated it for speedy deletion, per CSD G11. I wanted to get a second opinion on the article: do you think it could be saved? Or do you think the article should be deleted? Thanks, Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk / contribs) 21:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like it was deleted! Theroadislong (talk) 21:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

How to deal with Draft:Hubdar Brohi
Hello, it looks like to me that you rejected a submission of Draft:Hubdar_Brohi and the author resubmitted this and got only declined. The author is also repeatedly commenting on the AFC help desk. How to deal with this situation? QiuLiming1 (talk) 04:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like it has been deleted again, whilst I was sleeping. Theroadislong (talk) 07:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The author and the rest of their puppet farm now indeffed. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:12, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Seeds Corp. page
Hello Thero, Thank you for the helpful information you provided. I edited the article as per your instructions, now references can be found at the footer and I avoided to use any marketing expressions. Thanks again for your care! Assem Bahader (talk) 13:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Tony Mitton
Hello. Many thanks for such a speedy review. Ive now added independent reviews of his work and some more prizes that he won. But it is always a judgement call about how much is needed. I'll try and find some more then resubmit. best wishes davidz Dz3 (talk) 14:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Playmaker Capital Submission
Hello,

I have now added a number of reliable sources to the Playmaker Capital article. Can you please inform me of anything else that needs to be added or changed in order to have the article approved?

I am happy to make the changes that you suggest, but would just really appreciate as much guidance as you can provide.

Thank you. Playmaker fans (talk) 20:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Tony Mitton
Hello Ive added external reviews inc. a nice quote from the guardian. Hope this is sufficient. david Dz3 (talk) 09:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ad65718 (talk) 02:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:KURU_Footwear
Hi, you just declined Draft:KURU Footwear. Could you please elaborate on the issue and how to improve it? Which parts sound like advertising so I can remove or fix? Downinit9 (talk) 08:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The "Products" section seems to be sourced to a number of commercial adverts for the shoes. Do you have a conflict of interest by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 08:28, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Clare Snider Smith
So for the paper I am using for the Clare Snider Smith simply lists the countries and not the places or collections. It was written by either an Archivist or the Office of Advancement at Knox College. I wished to add where her work was found to have the article be accepted for her to be considered notable, but I do not have access to the information on where her works would be found outside of the country names. Helene Wiki User (talk) 15:39, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

The source I am citing is a lecture from an art history professor given at an event that I have a transcript from from the archives. How is that not considered a reliable/published source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helene Wiki User (talk • contribs) 15:47, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Is the archived copy accessible via the internet or is just something that you possess? Theroadislong (talk) 15:50, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have a digital copy that's not connected to the archives, but the transcript is not on the digital archives. Helene Wiki User (talk) 15:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have fixed everything you asked. Can my article please be approved now? Helene Wiki User (talk) 16:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I changed the line. Is that good enough to get the article approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helene Wiki User (talk • contribs) 16:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

About your last comment, that's a very short piece written by someone in the library. It only has 3 sentences. That is not the source I am using to say she helped develop the technique. Helene Wiki User (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Kinetic exclusion assay page, history
Hi Theroadislong, It looks like you removed the history paragraph from the end of the page I created describing kinetic exclusion assay on 9/27/21 and also added a note that this page may be edited or created by an undisclosed paid contributer. I was paid to create the page but I disclosed that as soon as I understood I needed to, shortly after the page was created. The history section you removed is accurate and neutral, why did you delete it? Would you please put it back? Besides providing a more complete understanding of kinetic exclusion assay it also provides a direction for readers interested in learning more.

Also I would appreciate it if you would remove the note since I have disclosed that I was paid.

Tom

the section you deleted

History

Kinetic exclusion assay was pioneered in 1995 by the founders of Sapidyne Instruments Inc., a scientific instrument manufacturer located in Boise, Idaho, USA. Tomofidabio (talk) 19:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No that was correctly removed as unsourced. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Quad Studio
Dear Theroadislong,

I have added many references to show Quad Studio and the projects are well published, many of these design websites have a long history and have many followers. Please can you review again to see if it is fine. If there is anything still missing, please let me know.

thanks Kelvin Chu QUAD (talk) 06:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Creation of Wikipedia Account
Hello dear Sir/Madam,

How are you doing?

Receive my greetings and best wishes!

I am requesting you to have my account created on Wikipedia. I believe that I am worthy and that my account should be activated. I have written so many articles and poem to educate people of the world.

Hoping to hear you kind response concerning my requisition.

Thanks,

Yours sincerely,

Emmanuel Nigel

Email: Emmanuel Nigel (talk) 01:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Your post above betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 01:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2022
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