User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 95

September 2023 at Women in Red
--Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Removal of Teahouse section
Hi - I saw you reverted this question at the Teahouse and warned the user. While I don't speak Portuguese, a machine translation suggests that they want to know how to contribute to pages protected from vandalism because they are not a vandal. If you interpreted it differently, could you explain what you think they meant - or if you agree, would you mind self-reverting your warning of that user? Tollens (talk) 15:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok....I removed my caution. Theroadislong (talk) 15:16, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
Hey! Theroadislong, could you please review my draft Draft:Mufti Raza Ali Khan. BrownCanary61 (talk) 07:05, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Editing issues
we wish to update his correct designation. name of his projects, his education, background and career, but every time we make an edit it says that its promotional content. could you please help us by letting us know where we are going wrong. Anamikadas05 (talk) 07:48, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Who is "we"? Wikipedia accounts are strictly single person use, your edit here added ridiculous promotional content and spam links. Theroadislong (talk) 08:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Robert Dylan or Bob Dylan?
Hi Theroadislong, A discussion is taking place here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bob_Dylan#Listing_legal_name_first

Mick gold (talk) 11:32, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

BOZZA
Dear Theroadislong I've been working on my first Wikipedia Page creation for months. The page is Salvatore Ruocco. I chose him, because I think he thinks it's possible to have a page. I have attached many funds, including American ones. I think you deserve to be accepted. It's my first page. I am also a supporter of Wikipdia, I love wikipedia. I congratulate you on your page. And I hope you can accept my page.

Thank you so much

--Cinefilm (talk) 08:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC) https://filmdaily.co/craft/salvatore-ruocco/?fbclid=IwAR01Ty9XY4NagP3ZbiXAPXj0DKMz2KXydmz0M5ChZKwYzjJ219vqZ3H0Fb8

Ps Looking at pages on wikipedia, there are truly unsourced pages, yet they created a page. Cinefilm (talk) 08:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It would help reviewers if you placed the sources directly after the content that they support. Theroadislong (talk) 08:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * those are usually old and probably wouldn't survive an afd
 * their existence doesn't mean any other article should get away with having nothing in the reliable source department, which is why drafts on up-and-coming people, businesses and pay-to-grind mobile games tend to get declined, rejected or deleted, regardless of how many popular they actually are cogsan  •  (give me attention)  •  (see my deeds)  12:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Best Wikipedia Editor

 * I never get kudos like this accepting an article much less rejecting one. I'm jealous! :) S0091 (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * then next time when i make an article and it is not real, then leave a message on my talk page and i'll probably do the same to you :D AstrowszechwiatWKG (talk) 14:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

i am having reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8277246/

https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2023/5/1/23707105/his-only-son-angel-studios

https://g.co/kgs/EyWQEm

this is reference sir Hisonlysoneditor (talk) 10:24, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

i have work for this film sir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hisonlysoneditor (talk • contribs) 10:25, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * IMDb is not a reliable source, it is user edited, Google search is not a reliable source and the other one doesn't mention Ashish Rawde/ Theroadislong (talk) 11:15, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Comment on Draft: Ido Kanter
Hello Theroadislong, Thank you for your comment on my draft article. I have made some changes to clarify the follow your dreams comment - its what Phil Anderson told Ido Kanter when he was studying under him. I added a reference to support this. I hope this is sufficient to remedy the issue. Thanks again, OffekM OffekM (talk) 12:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Tea House - Show me the way
@Theroadislong Thanks. As Turnbull commented, really speaking, actually I want to update my Article:Ramakrishna Mission Brahmananda College of Education. But I have some doubts and so I ask him few questions at the Teahouse Platform. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 16:57, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Your editing is disruptive, creating multiple drafts and main space articles all of which are promotional and very poorly sourced. Ramakrishna Mission Brahmananda College of Education should probably be deleted as it is not a notable establishment. Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

'do not edit further until you answer this message'
Hello, The first thing I want to say you that I'm doing Service of my FATHER(GOD). There is no chance to earn anything by any means because I'm a monk whose motive is to rendering Seva or Service. Regard. Thank you. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 17:56, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

My opinion
It's a notable establishment. As a novice I declared all my faults. I know that I made few mistakes and for that I already wrote at Tea House platform to forgive me. I want to know the way. Regards. Thank you. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 18:06, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Note
Thank you for your constant look. Just now @Josh send me the message that the article has been reviewed but I don't know what is there decision. What to do now please tell. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 13:29, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The review notice you received was from new page patrol, the deletion review has not reached a conclusion yet, but seems pretty clear it will be deleted as poorly sourced promotion, your recent additions have not improved it's chances. Theroadislong (talk) 13:41, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Request
Follow your instructions. If possible please add wikimini atlas. I added but atlas is blank only. In the infobox if you think more things are added then please delete the extra one. Thank you. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 14:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Engineering and Science Hall of Fame|Engineering and Science Hall of Fame
Theroadislong In reference to Articles for creation: Engineering and Science Hall of Fame

This is my first attempt at starting a Wikipedia article. I'm trying to understand which of these citations you find objectionable.Empowermentresource (talk) 03:25, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Computational Intelligence: Key Advances and Perspectives on Emerging Topics. (2022). Switzerland: Springer International Publishing. (Page 17)

Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound. (2004). United Kingdom: Taylor & Francis.

Yount, L. (2007). A to Z of Women in Science and Math. United States: Facts On File, Incorporated. (Page 84)

Home Front Heroes: A Biographical Dictionary of Americans During Wartime. (n.d.). United States: Greenwood Press. (Page 480)

University Bulletin: A Weekly Bulletin for the Staff of the University of California. (1983). United States: Office of Official Publications, University of California. (Page 75)

Huber, W. R. (2022). George Westinghouse: Powering the World. United States: McFarland, Incorporated, Publishers. Empowermentresource (talk) 03:25, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I previously declined a version of this because it was entirely promotional in content, you have not submitted this version for review but it appears to be the same. Theroadislong (talk) 05:42, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks note
Thank you very much. updated by Deor. Thank you again. Can I add "See Also". Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 13:22, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Is the article ready
Good day, @Theroadislongtheroadislong! Could you please help me better understand what specific changes are needed in the article? I've already rewritten the article, added sources, etc., and removed sections on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Martynenko_Ivan_Ivanovych_(1924) Would you kindly review the article to see if these changes are sufficient for publication? Thank you in advance! Inna Ogiievska (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to submit it for review though I try not to review twice in a row, your draft is poorly sourced see WP:REFB for help and please remove all the external links from the body of the article we don't use them. Theroadislong (talk) 16:50, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll try to figure it out. Inna Ogiievska (talk) 06:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong Thank you for your time! The Wix website has been deleted, leaving links to Wikipedia articles or websites of well-known Ukrainian institutions. I think removing all the links would also be incorrect... There doesn't seem to be anything superfluous in the text itself. I hope this option is possible for publication. Inna Ogiievska (talk) 13:25, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

any chance?
Do I have any chance to publish my article on Paestum Museum? Golfodisalerno (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes certainly, maybe you could use some of the references in the "List of reliable, independent, published sources about the National Archaeological Museum of Paestum" Theroadislong (talk) 17:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you please check if now it's good? Thank you. Golfodisalerno (talk) 14:48, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:پیش‌نویس:Mohsen Bahrami has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:پیش‌نویس:Mohsen Bahrami. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Martynenko_Ivan_Ivanovych_(1924)
@Theroadislong Thank you, I'll try to figure it out. Inna Ogiievska (talk) 06:42, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Theroadislong Thank you for your assistance with correcting the article. I hope the added corrections will be sufficient to publish the article. Inna Ogiievska (talk) 18:03, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

*I'm Back!!!!*
First off, your "Vile Comments" quote is misleading when all I did was put you in your place. Which "Real Men"/"Real Women". Can handle rather than get your feelings hurt and upset by "truth" And having to go "cry" to an Admin when we could've handled it between us but Ohhhh...No that was too much for you!,...you know you're at fault you misunderstood the situation And didn't even try to resolve it correctly. You just threw around your 260,000 edits and authority thinking I was gonna cower down to you...Plz

All I ask is this: "Be Better" And try to understand the situation in a better clarity, rather than acting with haste with misguided "Judgement" and don't abuse your authority and think your above everyone else, when you started out just like the rest of us. P.S Damn straight! I made that threat because if nothing else you need to be held accountable for abusing your power. Just as much as I have to be. Good Day!Hulk576 (talk) 17:59, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I have absolutely no authority here I am an editor just like you, you might consider that calling someone an "areshole" is fine, but I don't and I consider your comments above a further personal attack. Theroadislong (talk) 18:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Multiple Code Theory question
Hi Theroadislong,

Thanks for reviewing the article I put up on Multiple Code Theory. I wanted to ask if you had recs re: notability, given that the theory and the researcher are fairly well-known within clinical psychology/cognitive science. Would more independent sources help?

Thank you! PetersonHC (talk) 21:56, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, independent sources are exactly what are required, good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 22:14, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Requesting inputs
@Theroadislong Requesting your inputs @ WP:RSN#Anirudh Devgan to review notability @ Talk:Anirudh Devgan#Adding awards.

This request is made to you since previously (relatively recent times) you seem to have looked into the article Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

Thanks &#32;Bookku   (talk) 08:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Image wiki
Hello, i have seen your message about my photos being removed from my drafts. I was wondering how i could put them free sharing on wikimedia commons? I asked the owners of the photos if i could share them and they gave me permission, so im not sure why it is under copyright issues Veganpurplefox (talk) 19:53, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The actual photographer would need to upload them with the appropriate license, this isn't something they can give you permission to do! Theroadislong (talk) 19:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * can I ask how they can't give me the rights? Veganpurplefox (talk) 20:01, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * They just can't! See WP:IUPC. Theroadislong (talk) 20:04, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Interviews not being reliable sources.
Hi, thanks for the message. I see interviews with other artists on their pages and Lyon has been written about in a recent special edition of Rolling Stone. I'm missing something as to why these interviews and articles cannot or would not be considered a valid source, again seeing very similar articles on other pages. Many thanks Engblu (talk) 21:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * See other stuff exists articles CAN have interviews as sources, but they do NOT contribute to any notability in drafts. Theroadislong (talk) 21:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Article request rejected
Hello, Thank you for taking the time to review the article: Draft:Mohsen Bahrami. For the source, official, reliable and independent sources are mentioned in almost every section of the article. If you check, according to his activities, you cannot rely on the factor of not being notability.

In addition to those sources, if you search Mohsen Bahrami or the actor Mohsen Bahrami in Farsi, even Google has dedicated the knowledge panel to him. Link

If you search in Persian, there are more information about him in more sources, and even general encyclopedia like Abadis mentions this person. Link Keep in mind that this site has only added well-known Iranian people in the encyclopedia section.

Similar articles are from lesser-known people in English who have only 1 non-independent source. I do not understand the reason for the sensitivity on this article, because according to the rules, independent Persian sources can also be cited. Even you can tell by the person's photos which proves a large part of his activities that he is a remarkable person.

I would be grateful if you could check again and help me to register this article. TheRealRainbowFlick (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive
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Draft:American-Algerian War (1785-1795)
Hi, I'm the creator of this draft,now i'm verified but i don't want to transform this page into a real page since i think it's not permitted,so i improved the draft sooo much.I hope u can check it fast ! :)Berber.Enjoyer2 (talk) 15:35, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Request for draft(s) to be accepted
Draft:Chicago and North Western 7009

Reason: Afterall, if you accepted Southern Pacific 7457, then you should do it with a drafted article I created, along with another additional article here:

Draft:Grand Trunk Western 5632 (that article was created by the same person who created the Southern Pacific 7457 article) 60.241.84.63 (talk) 08:05, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Frank B Holmes
Hi Theroadislong,

I am getting ready to move another artists article from my sandbox however, I am unclear of my options because of my previous editing. Might that qualify me to be able to create an article myself? If so, I’m not seeing the path. Is there an article that might shed light on that process?

~

Jjcoste2 (talk) 22:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Trying to save the draft I managed to move it out with some hairballs, which are now resolved. How does it look? Jjcoste2 (talk) 18:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * After some research I opted for the longer path ... submitted for review
 * Thanks again Jjcoste2 (talk) 01:06, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

user-generated content site
Hi Theroadislong,

Concerning draft Frank B Homes (now changed to Frank Baker Holmes?)

1. Can a user-generated content site be used as a source if there is no other source available?

2. Can a user-generated content site be used as an external link if there is no other source available?

Thank you Jjcoste2 (talk) 14:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Ian Medina
Hi there -

I noticed you denied my client’s page. I’m a Wikipedia writer for GhostWiki, LLC in Orlando, Florida. I would really appreciate it if you approved this Wikipedia page because I guaranteed to my client that he would get his Wikipedia page. Ian is super notable and prominent in society. He has a lot of success and deserves this Wikipedia page. Please accept it!

Best,

GhostWiki, LLC Stellacorrales (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * He is NOT notable unless he is elected and it is disruptive to keep re-submitting multiple drafts without disclosing your paid status. Theroadislong (talk) 08:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Aww c’mon, please be nice and cut me some slack. You have plenty of politicians that haven’t been elected yet that are notable, like Jessica Cisneros for example. She’s an attorney that ran for Congress and she lost. She has a Wikipedia. Stellacorrales (talk) 08:26, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * See other poor articles exist for that argument. Theroadislong (talk) 08:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You bet haha I hope you’re editing it to approve it for me. If not, no worries. Take care! But we are WikiFam! :) Stellacorrales (talk) 08:40, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you want to propose Jessica Cisneros for deletion and argue she's not notable, you can. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That you promised your client something that you cannot deliver is not our problem. 331dot (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * and I have no idea who "GhostWiki, LLC" are, or what "WikiFam" is but there is no connection to Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 08:49, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Lol true. Ok, then. I’ll figure it out :( have a good night Stellacorrales (talk) 08:54, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong @331dot FYI this user re-submitted this draft while also removing the previous decline notices. I have declined it again as the sources is completely wrong and the tone is just an advert.  Qcne  (talk)  10:49, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

The creator of Ryde is worth monitoring
Their edit pattern seems to me to be typical of a UPE editor with potential hosiery connotations 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:03, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Reg Draft:Suresh Selvarajan
Hey Theroadislong, I would like to request you to take another look at refs 2, 3, 8 and 10 on the draft. Those are the refs for Notability. Also mentioning here for easy lookup. . Thanks <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 08:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ref number 2 and 3 are interviews so contribute nothing to notability. Theroadislong (talk) 08:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for highlighting it. I just went through Notability again and you are right. I still feel it would pass point #3 and maybe #4 too, on WP:CREATIVE. Also, Is it possible to get a source analysis? Jeraxmoira (talk) 08:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Re Truss
Thanks. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 16:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Trying again, it appears. This is getting ridiculous. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 16:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Removing the unreliable sources tag
Hi Theroadislong - a kind editor helped me get back on the rails with links about user generated content for biographies. I have removed all the inappropriate sources and replaced them. Hopefully, this will be enough to have the tag removed. The editor suggested that I should not do it myself, but wait for another editor. Could you possibly take a look at my Frank Baker Holmes draft? Jjcoste2 (talk) 14:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That will be removed if appropriate once the draft is accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 14:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * As it stands now does it meet the requirements? Jjcoste2 (talk) 15:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I already copy edited and accepted it. Theroadislong (talk) 15:10, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Jjcoste2 (talk) 17:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

About Draft:Tyrone Munro
My apologies if I've disrupted the usual WP:AFC process with my edits. And to HiAariv: this a what is called in Wikipedia jargon, a "biography a living person" - things like his nickname or where he grew up must not what you or me might know about him, they need to have been written about in "reliable sources". (Tiny COI: in my Sydney days, I lived in Redfern. My Bunnies for lyf. ) Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries. it looks like it's all back on track and has been re-submitted. Theroadislong (talk) 11:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

AGF re. notability
See User talk:Jimfbleak. and my last edit before yours. RudolfoMD (talk) 10:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Not clear what you are saying here, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 10:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Did you click and read? Please do. You just notability-tagged the page in question. Then couldn't limited it to that so did a bunch more including deleting one of my edits .   How about a freaking conversation?  --RudolfoMD (talk) 10:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I read the link, I moved the article to draft here Draft:Penn Foster Group because as it didn't have any evidence of notability, it was at risk of being deleted. I have not deleted any of your edits? Theroadislong (talk) 11:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * "Yes I read the link,"
 * I asked if you read what was linked to.
 * Penn Foster Group owns
 * Penn Foster Career School
 * Penn Foster College
 * Penn Foster High School
 * Ashworth College
 * James Madison High School
 * New York Institute of Photographyall of which have their own articles. Doesn't that knock notability out of the ball park? (And I'd cited the Oregonian.  And I have added a bit more.)  It had just been deleted and restored.   And I'm asking you to respond, now for the third time :If you think there's a better place for the info, I'm all ears. But it seems like we should keep track of this slimey octopus' tentacles somewhere. https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2015/05/penn_foster_college_must_pay_m.html.
 * RudolfoMD (talk) 11:44, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The draft Draft:Penn Foster Group has three sources one is a press release the other is a primary source, and the Oregonian article doesn't mention the group, the topic may well be notable but you have NOT shown that in the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 12:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * What? First point true, but Wow. I've never seen such ... wow.  My main point completely ignored. My question asked 3x...ignored.
 * I give up. Bye. RudolfoMD (talk) 12:20, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Spelling mistake in title
So has my draft sumbission title been changed to Draft:Tyrone Munro? HiAariv (talk) 04:00, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I moved it yesterday morning to here Draft:Tyrone Munro. Theroadislong (talk) 06:44, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Reg Draft:Suresh Selvarajan
Hey Theroadislong, Can you please give this a read again? Draft:Suresh Selvarajan. I found some new sources and have expanded it further. Let me know what you think. Thanks <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅... accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 19:01, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 04:54, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you so much for all your help and support creating my first article :)

AudraNoble1990 (talk) 08:09, 22 September 2023 (UTC) 

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Maltese strongman articles
Hi, I write articles about well known Maltese strongmen who are famous in Malta, so far I have had 4 articles accepted but having a few problems with my current article which is the final one in the series. I cannot understand why it has not been accepted as it has far more references than my previous articles. I also have some magazine references which I can add and some articles from The Times Of Malta. What would you suggest to do to get my article published. Thank you for your help. Antfarmalta (talk) 20:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I suggest you add more sources and submit it for review. Theroadislong (talk) 20:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Request for draft(s) to be accepted
Draft:Chicago and North Western 7009

Reason: Afterall, if you accepted Southern Pacific 7457, then you should do it with the draft for Chicago and North Western 7009, along with another additional article here:

Draft:Grand Trunk Western 5632 (that article was created by the same person who created the Southern Pacific 7457 article)

I am also requesting that you can accept this draft here on Southern Pacific 7551 (Only when your ready for me to submit the draft on Southern Pacific 7551 for pending drafts) 203.219.245.156 (talk) 09:01, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Impolite demands for reviews are likely to be ignored. Theroadislong (talk) 09:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Chicago and North Western 7009 and Grand Trunk Western 5632 have already been accepted btw. 121.45.248.72 (talk) 20:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for accepting the EMD SD45R article. 121.45.248.72 (talk) 20:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Charles Mashahary
Hi, @Theroadislong can u please help me out with my article wt should I add or remove it. XERI MUSIC (talk) 22:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2023
--Lajmmoore (talk) 10:54, 29 September 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

zero
zilch. nada. ganz nicht. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:23, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm puzzled as to which nothingness you are referring to? Theroadislong (talk) 16:34, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Articles for creation: Songs Dedicated to Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi II of Buganda
Greetings, I see you reviewed my draft called, Songs Dedicated to Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi II of Buganda, you mentioned the reason for the decline as being Youtube not being a valid reference. But its not used as the reference, its the list of songs. The references can be found in the reference section of the draft. I am planning on doing another edit, but would like to know, whether youtube content cannot be used as part of the article. Thanks a lot. BatakaBU BatakaBU (talk) 22:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Your draft has 260+ links to YouTube and 6 poor quality references including Wikipedia, none of which helps to support any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit request
edit request is deprecated (replaced by edit COI a few months ago). Just a thought for when you leave notes like Special:Diff/1178285631. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 12:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, not sure how I missed that, cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 14:21, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Heh, you're not the only one, I'm still finding people who are using it for edit requests (and completely/somehow missing that it just gives an error message instead of an edit request box), which is how I stumbled across your recent use. Primefac (talk) 17:15, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Article: Adel Mardini Declined
Hi Reviewer! Hope all is well. Thank you for your promptness in reviewing my draft: Adel Mardini. I thought I would have to wait 4 months or so haha. Just to clarify, the reason the article was declined is because the resources are NOT independent of the subject, correct? Therefore the subject Mr. Adel Mardini cannot be considered notable enough to be on Wiki. Jooyoorin (talk) 07:14, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Some of the sources are based on interviews which are not considered independent, others are just a passing mention. Theroadislong (talk) 07:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Hagiography
I always need to look that up. 😜 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:44, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Me too! Whenever I use it, I double check the meaning ;) I'm still wondering what your comment above referred to "zilch. nada. ganz nicht"? Theroadislong (talk) 16:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I do not remember.
 * Our Nada, who art in Nada
 * Nada be thy name
 * Thy kingdom nada
 * Thy will be nada in nada as it is in nada.
 * Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada
 * As we nada our nadas and
 * Nada us not into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada.
 * Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee. --A Clean, Well-Lighted Place, Ernest Hemingway --  Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ha haaa I'll have a glass of whatever you are drinking Cheers! Theroadislong (talk) 18:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Saeb Sabry al-Safi
hello would you check it out again ,Thanks you Jyix2944884 (talk) 14:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Removing a “needs additional citations” tag
Hi Theroadislong, a number of different citations, links and book references have been added to Dan Snyder(artist) would that be enough to qualify for the removal of the “needs cations tag? Jjcoste2 (talk) 00:03, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure you can. it's looking good, thanks for adding more sources. cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 06:53, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Jjcoste2 (talk) 01:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

source for weetech/mealzo
this is the source: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=778278414298611&set=a.536832058443249 Tod888 (talk) 15:14, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Facebook is not a reliable source for anything. Theroadislong (talk) 16:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * thanks for your update paid reviewer. Tod888 (talk) 16:30, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Troll. Theroadislong (talk) 17:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:X3M Ideas
hello please check it out again, Thanks you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LobitoSnr (talk • contribs) 08:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Draft: Panchmukhi Hanuman
Panchmukhi Hanuman Regarding this topic, yes, I have good and true references for it, still I do not want to bring in the mistakes made in my previous article, this time I want to create a good article suitable for a topic which is according to Wikipedia's article creation policy guidelines which Meets the standards. @GoingBatty you have helped me a lot, I am very grateful to all of you. Cancersign9 (talk) 11:40, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I want to add other relevant information to it.Then add references to it. Thank you @Theroadislong Cancersign9 (talk) 11:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:BACKWARDS, you need to start with the reliable independent sources NOT add them afterwards. Theroadislong (talk) 12:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Nicole Havrda
Draft:Nicole Havrda I have removed the external links as requested. 

Please move the page to Nicole Havrda.

Thanks, Pocket Noodle (talk) 07:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No you haven't and it will need to be reviewed first. Theroadislong (talk) 07:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Please tell me which external links I have failed to remove. Thanks. ¬¬¬¬
 * Pocket Noodle (talk) 07:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Two in the lead section and another in the next section. Theroadislong (talk) 07:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Noting per that article creator may be COI. Or just not "own work". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Joseph Boyse
In this edit, you claim that Joseph Boyse was born on 14 January 1660. Please provide a reference, or remove your edit - and perhaps apologise. Pocket Noodle (talk) 07:30, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * here is the reference no apology required. Theroadislong (talk) 07:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Cite your sources when you edit. Otherwise, it's not verifiable. Please add your citation.
 * Plagiarism?
 * The article (after your revert) says, "He would have settled in England but for the penal laws against dissent.".
 * The reference says, "He would have settled in England but for the penal laws against dissent.".
 * Pocket Noodle (talk) 07:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The source is already in the article. If content has been copied and pasted that is a separate issue.The Dictionary of National Biography is licensed Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. so can be used with atribution. Theroadislong (talk) 08:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you show me where they state that licence please? Pocket Noodle (talk) 08:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * At the bottom of the page here https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900/Boyse,_Joseph Theroadislong (talk) 08:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Your edit says, "He was admitted to the Rathmell Academy". What is the source of that claim? Pocket Noodle (talk) 08:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * You could have this discussion at the article talkpage, you know. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorted, I am now out for the rest of the day so will not be able to reply further, if you are not blocked by then I will catch up later. Theroadislong (talk) 08:30, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Would discussion on the talk page make it less valid?
 * Sure, OK, let's discuss it there. Pocket Noodle (talk) 08:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Discussion on the article talk makes it easier for other editors to follow. Definitely doesn't make it "less valid" in any way. Valereee (talk) 12:17, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that I've blocked Pocket Noodle as a checkuser confirmed sock.-- Ponyo bons mots 19:18, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:List of tourist attractions in Salerno Paestum Amalfi
I thank you for your suggestion. I believe that this passage highlights the enduring appeal and historical significance of these cities. When crafting encyclopedia entries, it's important to provide a balanced mix of historical context, factual information, and descriptive language to engage readers and provide a comprehensive understanding of the subject. The passage I provided can help convey the unique charm and historical richness of these destinations to readers. Anyway I respect your opinion. Golfodisalerno (talk) 22:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I’m new to wikipedia. I by mistakenly submitted same two pages Draft:Rehgars / Regar / Draft:Regar Raghuvanshi Kshatriya
 * The information mentioned on the article Regar is not correct about the community.
 * For which I have already given the proof / reliable sources on the talk page of  Regar but nothing happened.
 * On the article Regar, the community has been categorised under different community which is wrong information.
 * “Raigar caste is not related to Chamar/Jatav Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197. Whereas Chamar is a separate caste belongs to Class VII. Leather Workers and the Lower Village Menials ( page 199) Reliable sources Page 196, Class V Artisans, GROUP 11. Salt and Lime Workers(Page 197), Rehgars, General Report on the Census of India, 1891” https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ 2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891 https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/
 * The only reason I have created a new article, which is getting rejected again and again
 * please guide me. It would be really helpful

Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 12:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The place to discuss this is Talk:Regar, it's NOT a good idea to create a new draft. Theroadislong (talk) 12:32, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Mettekoe
Hi Theroadislong,

I recently created a draft article on Mettekoe, the Belgian processional giant. Could you please explain why this draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for an article ? The reason why I created an article about this giant is because it got selected to represent Belgium at the 2024 Art Biennale in Venice, which is one of the world's largest and most important art exhibitions. There are no English references at the moment but they will be added to the article as soon as they become available. Could you please take a look again? Thank you. Johngusse (talk) 16:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Tone is not appropriate for an encyclopaedia. Mascots are not born or baptised, and inanimate objects cannot be socially conscious. Theroadislong (talk) 16:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You are right. Fixed.  Thank you. Johngusse (talk) 17:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Nicole Havrda
Hi Theroadislong;

I was wondering if, after the changes you suggested/made, concerning the Nicol Havrda page, it was appropriate to submit it for review. Also, I am wondering about the COI tag. My only affiliation with the subject is that I became acquainted with her and her parents at the race track a couple of years ago, when she was karting. I put her in contact with some teams racing in F4 at the time. They reached out to me recently, knowing that I was involved in IT (nothing to do with Wikipedia), and they asked if I could do a Wikipedia entry for her. I told them I would give it a try. There's no real COI that I can see, and I'm definitely not being paid for it.

Regards,

Gman2000b Gman2000b (talk) 04:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That is absolutely a conflict of interest and you will need to disclose this on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 07:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thank you for the prompt reply. Gman2000b (talk) 18:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Maximiliano Rodríguez Vecino
Thanks for the suggestion. I solved the problem.

I send you greetings. Jose.mendibaleta (talk) 07:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

My first article Police Seva declined
Hi Theroadislong,

Thank you for reviewing my article. My article is declined due to the reason which is missing the neutral point of view and seems like a promotion. But my article is subject of public service application which is helping citizens. This is a worthy application which needs entry in Wikipedia it's a prestigious application of a State in India. The information I sourced from various news papers which I attached as references. Pls help me in publishing my article NadellaMou (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Biplab Halder
Hi Theroadislong,

I have edited the article and added another sources also now can you kindly review once and let me know. ChoudharySamrat (talk) 07:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft article about Medicover Fertility
Today I created an draft article about Medicover Fertility in India. The article is not meant to advertise or promote services, it just informs users that such an organization exists, and by virtue of its development we at Medicover thought it worthwhile to gather this information in one place, like Wikipedia. I would appreciate information on what I could do to get my article accepted. Thank you sincerely.

Regards,

Katarzyna Makarewicz Makarevka12 (talk) 10:06, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Nick Kyrgios entry. Paragraph Two.
Hi, I have tried to edit this entry by eliminating a very old opinion piece written for The New Yorker in 2015. It has been 'reverted' automatically via Rollback or Huggle without the reverter actually reading the piece. This is the extract: "Although Kyrgios has received praise for his perceived entertaining style of play, he is a controversial player whose matches have featured "epic displays of ranting, racquet-wrecking, and trash-talking". The opinion piece is called "NK, The Reluctant Rising Star". He is no longer 22 or a rising star. He is nearly 29 and his career is mostly over due to extensive sports injury. The first sentence (received praise for his perceived entertaining style of play) does not mention WHO has praised him (it was Roger Federer's coach saying Kyrgios was the most outstanding player to emerge since Federer himself) and 'perceived' indicated that Roger Federer's coach does not know what he is talking about. The 'epic displays of ranting' are a personal opinion of the writer who is not a tennis expert but is writing on behalf of a high society magazine that specialises in cartoon caricature. SO on many counts this entry gives a very poor impression of Wikipedia's ability to describe a player. You would be better to leave it out. Or to clarify who praised him, why, and indicate that he is no longer 22 but is an established and highly respected player on the tour. The 'epic rants and racquet smashes' apply to all players at a high level - they have been in evidence this entire year when Kyrgios has been absent - he is not exceptional. Would you please advise the reverter (Materials Scientist) that this section should be reviewed, replaced with a much more updated summary of Kyrgios's achievements, or eliminated. As it is, the sentence just looks ignorant and biased. A lot of the material further down is also supported only by online tabloids but I have given up trying to change them as they are reverted automatically now. This is a pity. SueoftheAntipodes (talk) 11:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to gain consensus on the article talk page, not forum shop everyone, but content like "splits opinion like no other sportsman. Since he smashed his way to stardom in 2014 he has been making headlines for both his cocky brilliance and his bad behaviour" when in Wikipedia's voice is definitely not appropriate. Theroadislong (talk) 11:53, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I understand that now. All of those phrases are quotes from a number of opinion pieces written this year by established sports writers. I didn't make them up as I am not a writer or public speaker. The opinion piece writer in The New Yorker who wrote 'epic displays of ranting, racquet-wrecking and trash-talking' was also writing for dramatic effect and caricature in line with The New Yorker. I have tried to get some sort of reply from the article talk page but the only action I have got is from Material Scientist who reverts my changes through Rollback or Huggle without reading them. The talk page people say, 'I am not a Kyrgios lover but...' which indicates that they will not support any positive improvements. The old quotes which relate to his early development as a player are no longer relevant. So Wikipedia appears irrelevant and out of touch.SueoftheAntipodes (talk) 12:05, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

DRAFT_ PAchakuti Mesa Tradition
Thank you for your reply, but I still don't understand what is not neutral about the language I've used? The resources are all verifiable, third party, legitimate sources. Please, please, please, I need some specific examples of how my language is not neutral and some specific examples of how to make it so. Please give me details and specifics. BrendaBerry13 (talk) 18:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * One example of totally inappropriate tone " It is a container of spirit, a soul-infused artifact of the material world, a living and dynamic pattern upon and with which practitioners can consciously do personal and planetary energy healing work" it is laughably non encyclopaedic. Theroadislong (talk) 18:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @BrendaBerry13: I wouldn't call the sources "legitimate", quite the opposite, in fact. And the language is absolutely impenetrable jargon. Whatever this is, it isn't a viable draft for an encyclopaedia article. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

E-mail?
Hello Theroadislong, I wanted to write e-mail to you, but it appears you haven't enabled it. If you're interested, please write to me. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 12:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I prefer to keep communication on Wikipedia thanks. Theroadislong (talk) 12:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Satish ray
hello,@Theroadislong create a new article of this draft:satish ray and add some reliable sources Creation07 (talk) 12:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You appear to be a paid editor, why should I assist you? Theroadislong (talk) 12:47, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * sorry, bymistakely i choosen as paid editor Creation07 (talk) 12:50, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * can you please help me Creation07 (talk) 12:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I have no knowledge or interest in Satish Ray, so can't help you. Theroadislong (talk) 13:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I will provide you some articles about Satish Ray, and he is bollywood actor maybe that will helpful for you. But please help me to create article Creation07 (talk) 13:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You state here that you are a paid editor, I will NOT be helping you. Theroadislong (talk) 13:29, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * yes, but that was for Draft: Mukesh Chhabra not for Draft: Satish Ray Creation07 (talk) 13:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Request on 17:30:45, 24 October 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Thebastidge
This article is modeled on and in line with other AVA pages in the state. There are sufficient references and resources to verify it.

There have been placeholders and notes about this proposed AVA for some time independently mentioned and updated in other AVA pages- specifically the Puget Sound AVA page comes to mind.

Thebastidge (talk) 17:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It is extremely poorly sourced, I'm not sure which article you modelled it on but see other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 17:36, 24 October 2023 (UTC)