User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 96

WUDS-LP
Hi, I'm unclear on what you are meaning when you say "NOT any sort of source" regarding the sources you removed. They are documents filed by the General Manager of WUDS-LP with the Federal Communications Commission, a US Government agency. US Government sources are some of the most reliable we use, so I'm also unclear on how it's not "a reliable independent one". Could you elaborate? Thanks... Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 19:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It was a downloadable document which merely said "Silent Status Due to staffing difficulties the Station has been taken silent. We respectfully request 180 days in which to remain silent." It is a primary source and not acceptable. Theroadislong (talk) 19:37, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was the second source, the first source showed the Request for Silent Authority of a Low Power FM Station Application completed form from the FCC. You will note the downloadable document link at the very bottom.  If you would have looked a little further, you would see the secondary source was removed by an anon user.  I have contacted that user, but they have yet to respond. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 19:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * But Facebook is not a reliable source? Theroadislong (talk) 19:47, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I am aware of that, but Facebook can be used as a secondary or confirming source. There is some conflicting information, I believe, between the official Facebook page of the station and the FCC documents.  Via a just completed Google search, I can actually toss the Facebook post and add a local newspaper source for the secondary.  Which gives the first a LOT more weight. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 19:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok go ahead... I'm in the European Union so cannot see that source. Theroadislong (talk) 20:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Awesome, glad we worked that out. :) I'll be honest, I don't completely understand the EU thing with websites, but the Northern Virginia Daily is the newspaper.  Take Care.... Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 20:05, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:SwitchBot
Thanks for your review! Could you please provide more specific details about the reasons for the disapproval? The added content in the first paragraph already indicates that the brand has a significant presence in the Japanese region. Is my wording not appropriate, or is there something else at issue? I would appreciate your guidance and assistance. I would like to understand the exact reasons. Thank you once again for your review. Your efforts are greatly appreciated!Draft:SwitchBot Ejajsheik23 (talk) 01:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Since the previous decline you appear to have added a press release, which is not independent and "obtaining certification for top sales in four product categories" (whatever that might be) is not a criteria for notability. See WP:NCORP. Theroadislong (talk) 06:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red - November 2023
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hide.me VPN page
Qcne said that I can add more citations and that the article will be reviewed again although it is rejected. Can you please review it again because now it is full compliant with everything you asked me to do. VPNMage (talk) 07:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid it is just blatant advertising and totally unacceptable also see WP:SOLUTIONS. Theroadislong (talk) 08:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah right. VPNMage (talk) 09:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft that hasn't been reviewed yet
Draft in question: Draft:ACE 3000 110.175.62.4 (talk) 10:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)


 * As stated on the draft, "This may take 4 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,395 pending submissions waiting for review." 331dot (talk) 10:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

BookishReader
The BookishReader user reverted your edit on that Abdul Karim Solangi article saying it passes WP:SIGCOV, I don't know if I am the one who is confused, or the subject just doesn't pass. They probably have a COI, but I don't want to be the one to tell them that. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Theroadislong, I appreciate your work as well. Thank you. Vanderwaalforces, there is no COI. I just contribute to Wikipedia on missing arts and culture topics related to my country of birth, like you. BookishReader (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Mukesh Chhabra
Hi Mukesh Chhabra's Wikipedia page was earlier in the article space, he is one of the renowned name in Indian Film Industry, what verification do you need to look for to shift this page from draft to Article please let me know. Please look at these links for verification:

https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/mukesh-chhabra-on-welcoming-new-talent-in-bollywood-it-will-strengthen-our-work-culture-cinema/

https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/casting-director-mukesh-chhabra-aspiring-actors-advice-6342106/

https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/mukesh-chhabra-on-83-it-took-me-more-than-a-year-to-cast/

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2535507/

https://timesofindia-indiatimes-com.translate.goog/topic/Mukesh-Chhabra/news?from=mdr&_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=hi&_x_tr_hl=hi&_x_tr_pto=tc

https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/mukesh-chhabra-says-there-were-fights-between-him-and-atlee-for-the-first-two-months-over-casting-for-jawan-it-was-very-difficult-8992434/ Iamrohj (talk) 08:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a WP:SPA, possibly a sock. Problematic paid editing disclosure is still an issue. The editor appears to have ignored all the comments on the draft about reliable sources too. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:07, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Regarding article Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Jalpaiguri
@Theroadislong,

Guide me regarding WP:NSCHOOL, what should be the reliable source for JNVs of NVS. There are 661 JNVs are there and only some of the article have been created. So, that I can contribute something about this. As per my knowledge, official website of NVS can be consider as reliable source. Thank you Mr. Rasel Hasan (talk) 09:20, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Not remotely clear what makes them notable?
Hello Theroadislong, i appreciate your comment, you asked what makes them notable?? well the person in subject is highly notable. I am developing the page gradually..but kindly understand the person is notable. all citations are independent sources and secondarily reliable. You declined the article without checking the citations. I commend you for that! Brogonee (talk) 16:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I DID check the sources, the first one for instance makes no mention of the topic. Theroadislong (talk) 16:13, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong, my article got rejected...i have updated the article with proper citations...kindly check the article Bala Sanusi Turaki. Thanks! Brogonee (talk) 16:51, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Rejection means it won't be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 17:41, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

The Recent Changes Barnstar

 * Thank you but it's not clear why this has been awarded, I am not a particularly active recent changes patroller? Theroadislong (talk) 17:42, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive
 Hello Theroadislong:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!

The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft: William John Titus Bishop
Hi Theroadislong,

Thanks for reviewing my draft! With all due respect to yourself, I think that the article fulfils a number of the criteria that you mention for NSINGER including having released a number of albums on a major label. This would not have been in a previous article as it has occurred, along with more general career progression, since the previous one was written. Would it perhaps be better to make this more explicit in the article itself before re-submitting?

All good things Topg1985 (talk) 13:48, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Theroadislong,
 * I have improved the article by expanding it and adding further references as per your advice! Thanks again for reviewing the draft! Topg1985 (talk) 15:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Deborah Shaffer has been accepted
 Deborah Shaffer, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. It is commonplace for new articles to start out as stubs and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Deborah_Shaffer help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

Thanks again, and happy editing! Theroadislong (talk) 22:02, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

How I can add an article
Hi dear;

I just finished the translation of an Article the The Arabic to English, But I dont know how to publish.

Can you Help me, Please مصطفى ملو (talk) 11:17, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There is no content in your sandbox here User:مصطفى ملو/sandbox? Theroadislong (talk) 11:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Your comment on draft of Simon Rosenthal bio...
is absolutely fair. I'm editing the piece to address the issue. Thank you! Emily Brewton (talk) 14:28, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

WLC Revert
Thanks for catching that, my eye didn't notice the cropping. I thought it was just the name change to the German. Squatch347 (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I think it was improved by the cropping, but poor naming of the file. Theroadislong (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding a Quary
@Theroadislong, Hope all are good. I would like to know something about Orphan page. What does it means in context of a article? Thank you in anticipation. Mr. Rasel Hasan (talk) 14:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It means that no other Wikipedia article contains a link to it. Theroadislong (talk) 14:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for guidance, if you free can you check Maheshwar, Cooch Behar is now orphan or not? Again thanks a lot for guiding. Mr. Rasel Hasan (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I need an infobox
Dear friend;

I need an infobox for a geological site to add to my article.

Please, can you help me?!! مصطفى ملو (talk) 14:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Info boxes aren't really needed and I generally avoid them but you could use one from here maybe []? Theroadislong (talk) 14:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks مصطفى ملو (talk) 15:22, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Mak Hubjer Draft Page
Hi,

I just got your message regarding the drafted article Mak Hubjer. As mentioned in refusal, it says that article does not represent or stands for a notable person, as dough I have referenced number of independent reliable sources for this person.

If that does not stand, could you please tell me what are the next steps and how can I improve this? 185.38.145.19 (talk) 17:18, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to show how he passes the criteria at WP:NARTIST and it needs to be re-written in a dry neutral encyclopaedic tone. Theroadislong (talk) 17:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Ellis Ehijator Abraham
Submission rejected on 1 November 2023 by Theroadislong (talk).

This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Please what do I need to do to make it accepted. ReneOliver23 (talk) 13:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There is nothing you can do it has been rejected and won’t be considered further, the topic is not notable.Theroadislong (talk) 13:16, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Page Changes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gakon_Netafim Hallo, this was to commercial - however added new citations, and unique accomplishments. What other changes to do you recommend? Internetsleuth (talk) 14:15, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Moritake Kimura
For other reliable sources you can see here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.89.71 (talk) 08:07, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * They are of no use to your draft there? Theroadislong (talk) 08:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Some of them are about Moritake and his career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.89.71 (talk) 08:49, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Then please add them to the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 08:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have time, then can you help me reading them and adding them to the draft? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.89.71 (talk) 08:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for Moritake Kimura, but don't forget to edit his ja.wikipedia. Can you do also Draft:Yellow Fangs, Draft:Heikichi Yamamoto, Draft:Mika Muramatsu? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.89.71 (talk) 08:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I don't read Japanese. Theroadislong (talk) 09:21, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thank you for Yellow Fangs. Can you do also the last two? Other reliable sources for Yamamoto are in the same for Moritake Kimura in the talk page of that incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.89.71 (talk) 09:31, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft:Mika Muramatsu has not been submitted and doesn't appear to be notable and same with Draft:Heikichi Yamamoto. Theroadislong (talk) 09:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Mika Muramatsu is a famous Japanese actress, and Heikichi Yamamoto the most famous matagi in that period. The first can wait (maybe you can search other reliable sources), but the last I think it's sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.89.71 (talk) 09:38, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Being "famous" is not one of the criteria at WP:NACTOR. Theroadislong (talk) 09:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * But Yamamoto's voice seems good just like those of Moritake Kimura and Haruyoshi Okawa. 87.13.89.71 (talk) 10:57, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you do Yamamoto? 87.13.89.71 (talk) 12:28, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I declined Draft:Heikichi Yamamoto you re-submitted with zero changes, which is pointless and diesruptive. Theroadislong (talk) 12:49, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've added External links for Yamamoto, then can you do it? 87.13.89.71 (talk) 13:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * External links do not contribute towardsnotability, please slow down and perhaps read WP:YFA. Theroadislong (talk) 13:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * He is notabily just like Haruyoshi Okawa, then... 87.13.89.71 (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've added those sources for Yamamoto. 95.234.110.185 (talk) 10:08, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * With those reliable sources, can you do it? 193.207.146.130 (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm waiting. Can you do it? 95.239.125.208 (talk) 10:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I am NOT your servant, I will leave the draft for another reviewer, please stop harassing me. Theroadislong (talk) 10:46, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, sorry. 95.239.125.208 (talk) 10:48, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Holymoorside Boundary Stones
Hi, My submission has been rejected due to a lack of notable citations. I can understand this to an extent as the subject matter may be considered 'local' - it is a series of stones. I have submitted references but they are, in turn, also local. I am not sure what else I can add to this without referring my own work, which I realise is not acceptable. Without any further suggestions to make this possible I was wondering if - as the stones already have a mention on another wikipedia page - it would be possible for a shorter version would be acceptable as a section edited in on that other page? many thanks. Bardofel1 (talk) 22:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good plan until such time as more sources become available. Theroadislong (talk) 22:59, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I will try that. Bardofel1 (talk) 23:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Helpful to learn
I was going to hold on my draft of Georgios Dritsakos and wait to get an update. I mistakenly thought to have it redirect. Forgive me. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 16:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

An apology
I just want to offer my sincere apology. Because I thought it will be upgrading the draft article of the Governor of the Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority Georgios Dritsakos and be update to a new articles with reference. I'm sorry. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 16:01, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I fail to understand what you are apologising for? Your draft Draft:Georgios Dritsakos is waiting to be submitted by you, I added the code to allow you to do this. Theroadislong (talk) 16:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your commentary. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Jay and Joss
Good morning. Thank you for finalising the review of Jay and Joss. Would it be possible to rename the page to Jay & Joss? The ampersand is used in their stage name. Thanks again. - Dave Crosby (talk) 08:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * That was fast, thank you. We have a comma on the end though... - Dave Crosby (talk) 08:55, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

The Violent (Draft Page)
This is a new band, so not much information on them... what do you suggest I do to get it published? ParanoidAndroid420 (talk) 22:13, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the chances of Draft:The Violent being published are zero, Wikipedia only reports on topics that are already notable, you will need to show how they pass the criteria at WP:BAND first. See WP:TOOSOON. Theroadislong (talk) 22:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

All for ads page
You told me that my draft is ”blatant„ advertising, but my article is about a company. You also said that my article has too few references. Well, how about this one Ziarul Financiar. Can you tell me the difference between this one (which is already a wikipedia page) and my draft article? Fraredemptor (talk) 13:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * See other poor quality articles exist for that argument. Theroadislong (talk) 13:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

When to nominate drafts for deletion?
Hi,

When I am reviewing for AFC is there any particular threshold for when a draft should be sent to MfD? (I think Draft:DECT-2020 is an obvious one.)

Thanks, Seawolf35 (talk - email) 15:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think this is subjective, some admins are happy to delete drafts like this, others prefer for them to sit there for 6 months and then be deleted, I now tend not to bother with nominating drafts once they are rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 16:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Resubmission of Draft:Lu Hsiao-Fen
Hi User:Theroadislong, I just wanted to let you know that I edited and resumbitted Draft:Lu Hsiao-Fen, despite not being the original draft creator. I was about to create a stub for her, but saw a draft had been created. She's certainly notable: lots of attention in Taiwanese cinema history, and probably meets WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG just off the English sources. That said, I didn't want to move the article to mainspace myself, because it contains a lot of details I didn't attempt to immediately verify and an un-encyclopedic tone in several places. Suriname0 (talk) 01:42, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

For submit an article on leaving person
my article is fully researched. Imrankhansb (talk) 08:20, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Leah Gotti Biography shows zero indication of passing WP:GNG and has no sources, so was rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 08:36, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

APN Swami
Hey, my article about Sri APN Swami (Vachaspathy Mukundagiri Vankeepuram) has valid external reference citing about his activities and how he has been a director, author etc. Please advise what specific information you require to be approved Apnswami (talk) 08:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well for example the "early life" and "education" sections have zero sources as do much of the content. Theroadislong (talk) 08:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, i have now updated. In terms of education, since this is a traditional way of learning in India, what source do you expect. Generally it is like a gurukul system. Apnswami (talk) 09:01, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You have made zero improvements and have re-submitted, the draft needs WP:TNT and starting again using ONLY what reliable independent sources have reported about him, see WP:BACKWARDS. Theroadislong (talk) 09:20, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Inappropriate
It appears you are now accusing User:StarryGrandma of a COI for Laurence D. Marks. That is inappropriate. To my knowledge she just cleaned up the page, there is no COI. Beyond reverting egregious edits such as calling me "staff" and reverting someone who changed my name, I have not edited that page. Please remove your addition. We had a runin before, do you still hold a grudge? Ldm1954 (talk) 18:21, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It is YOU that have the conflict of interest, I have zero recollection of any run in with you, I edit many many thousands of pages. Theroadislong (talk) 18:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Your inference that I am a "major contributor" is incorrect, so please remove it. Which article to include was decided by User:StarryGrandma, not me. She chose the highest cited, I would have been more diverse. She validated the awards, and more recent ones have been added via the standard request process. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:38, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting the GE U25BE article
I have another article waiting as its pending: Draft:EMD SD45T-2R 220.235.238.29 (talk) 09:45, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Jane-finch.com deletion review
Hello, Theroadislong. I was trying to restore Jane-finch.com with the proper references to note the website's notability. I followed the instructions as per User talk:Jimfbleak, improved the article and moved it to article space after he restored it. Please advise. Thanks. Venom 200 (talk) 12:45, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I moved your article to draft space here Draft:Jane-finch.com when you have a conflict of interest it is better to use the WP:AFC process. Theroadislong (talk) 12:49, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, Theroadislong. I have followed your steps and updated the article with additional reliable references. Please review. Thank you. Venom 200 (talk) 07:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You have not submitted the draft for review and you still haven't responded or taken action to the inquiry regarding your appearance as an undisclosed paid editor. Theroadislong (talk) 07:50, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, Theroadislong. I added COI to my page. I also noticed a tag that says inappropriate external links and promotional language, but there are no external links, only reference sources from news outlet or journals. Can you please point out where the promotional language is so it may be fixed? Thank you. Venom 200 (talk) 18:29, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I have removed the promotional content, because of your conflict of interest and lack of response to the paid editing question I suggest you restrict your editing to edit requests on the article talk page see Edit requests for more details. Theroadislong (talk) 18:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I am not getting paid to make edits. Is there another tag I should add to my page? Venom 200 (talk) 19:10, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That would depend on what your conflict of interest was. Theroadislong (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the edits and improving the article. It is greatly appreciated. Venom 200 (talk) 19:11, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Patrick Rampelotto
Thanks for your comment! I meant "he gives more importance to" these materials compared to others. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/privilege I am no native English speaker, but I think it makes sense. Would you suggest another expression? I'm open for anything better. Thanks again Catherine Lemieux (talk) 17:34, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry but it makes no sense at all! Theroadislong (talk) 17:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * According to the Cambridge dictionary it does. In any case, what would you suggest instead? Rampelotto works mainly with materials such as... would be clearer? Catherine Lemieux (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "works with" or "utilises" would be preferable to "privileges". Theroadislong (talk) 17:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Good, I made the correction. Thanks! Catherine Lemieux (talk) 17:48, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I just found another award which I added to the article. Theroadislong (talk) 18:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work in wikipedia. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 18:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

The person I'm writing about is a notable religious person
I just needs to do proper / citing and need your assistance, and I will really appreciate it.

The notable person Pir ihsanallah Rashdi is 19th century religious leader who also participated in the Sind Khilafat movement with his father Pir Rushdullah Pir of Jhando. Pir Allamah sayyid Ihsanullah rashdi is dear to millions of followers in sind. He's quite nobel personality who sacrificed everything for his religion. You can check sources i have mentioned. Im trying to publish couple articles on wikipedia to save historicalrecord's any help will be appreciated dear182.190.213.219 (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * ++ SaneFlint (talk) 21:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

hey. now I can expect your help.?
help me setup my article. I think I'm still failing with citation and referencing lines. :( SaneFlint (talk) 21:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Javed Haider Zaidi
Approve my biography and move to main Article. Thank You. BootNet (talk) 12:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red December 2023
--Lajmmoore (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

wish you were fair to me :)
I don't know after giving all references now you nominated for deletation:( SaneFlint (talk) 18:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It's nothing personal, the acceptance was borderline, the community will decide whether to keep the article or not, you are free to continue editing, adding content and sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I wasn't expecting this especially from you:)
 * completely unexpected. having all information but getting this in return Is a what I can get only) my bad. things in urdu and Sindhi aren't easier for editor's to understand:) thank you I appreciate this one. World is not enough kind SaneFlint (talk) 19:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @SaneFlint Please do not take this personally. The hardest thing in Wikipedia is to create an article that meets every single requirement. I confirm that it was a borderline acceptance. I feel it is on the correct side of the border. Theroadislong has a different view. That they and I disagree is fine. That you and they disagree is fine. Disagreement makes us better when we handle it well.
 * What happens now is that the discussion will run and a consensus will be formed from the policy based arguments presented in the discussion. In the meantime, please find excellent references to show that the subject passes WP:BIO. Do not do it im desperation. Do it simply and with accuracy. Take your time together it right, but do not take too much time.
 * Remember, please, that we are all colleagues, perhaps especially when we disagree. How we handle disagreement shows the people we are inside. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Timtrent Question number 1
 * where I will need to show those references? in a discussion form?
 * question number 2.
 * it should be short answer or I should also tell them the reason of submitting it for over 12 times or 10. as I was new here and I thought after submitting it I can calmly make edits while it will be under review thats why I wasted time to submit for over 10 times or even more dozens in a day. my English is second language that's why I had difficulty with changing its praising type tone. and every source I gave were legit which contains real information SaneFlint (talk) 20:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @SaneFlint I wil reply im your talk page. We should not hijack this one by accident. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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The author of Sayyid Ihsanullah Shah Rashdi
I feel really sorry for them. I agree with your AFD nomination. I think it will help decide once and for all, but the editor is suffering stresses, probably of their own making, by misunderstanding Wikipedia. If appropriate, I wonder if you would also offer them kind guidance. While I can always be mistaken, I see them as a genuine hearted soul, in a language which is not their first tongue, in an environment which, like so many before them, they thought was pleasant and kind. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft: POWER FOR ALL ALLIANCE sources
Hi, is it fine to use german sources for the english entry as there are sadly nearly no second sources available in english. Thank you very much and best regards! Stuttgarter 23 (talk) 09:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes German sources are absolutely fine. Theroadislong (talk) 09:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

FYI
These couple of Bangla topics are getting a bit out of control. I've opened an SPI, but even without it they look to be heading for a block fairly soon. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

hi I have removed unnecessary stuffs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid?wprov=sfla1

it has huge long lists which made it very opposite to wikipedia page as it should be SaneFlint (talk) 15:46, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I have removed them* SaneFlint (talk) 15:47, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Declined Draft
Hey! I think my draft has been rejected 3 times 😬 I don’t mind though

Everyone just quotes the wikipedia criteria for an article, though I actually might need some help on what to edit.

I’m still a newbie here so it my second try at creating a totally random article. It would help to get some more feedback on what to change, Thanks! Turtlepro22 (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You need to find reliable, independent sources that discuss the college Draft:Lighthouse Christian College Cranbourne in significant detail. Theroadislong (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Theroadislong I’ve found some sources, if you happen to review it, let me know if I need to work on it more, thanks in advance! Turtlepro22 (talk) 03:32, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

I have a question
can I publish an historical picture of a letter which I have obtained from some press members. which has significant value and importance historically. I don't know if it will be acceptable for wk commons? SaneFlint (talk) 10:16, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably not but you can ask at the commons help desk here . Theroadislong (talk) 10:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * where I can see commons help desk means the tea house ? SaneFlint (talk) 10:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you got it SaneFlint (talk) 10:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Bruce Ryan
Hello - I have removed the links to which you objected. Thank you, Sylvan1971 (talk) 16:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Bruce Ryan (production designer) was rejected, so no point in editing it further as it won't be reviewed again. Theroadislong (talk) 16:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Rejection of Afc Submission for David Catalon
Hello,

Hope you are doing great. You just reviewed an article, David Catalon, in Afc category. I reviewed all the links and almost every link is as per the Wikipedia guidelines. The sources are independent, reliable, and secondary. Also, they do not simply mention the subject once or twice but discuss his work in detail independently.

Could you please specify which thing is missing from here? Could you specify any source here as an example? I think I might be missing something. Since, not all 12 sources can be unreliable, unworthy, and primary. As per your comment I have removed two awards, and changed the line to "The collection, named "Ushuaïa by Mercedes-Benz Fashion Talent David Catalán," integrates practical elements maintaining a focus on sustainability" Is it fine now? Please guide. Gettingreal2023 (talk) 11:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Annamalai(s)
Hi, saw your comment on Talk:K. Annamalai (politician), and just wanted to mention that there are two different people, one is an MP and passes NPOL, the other is this "former IPS officer and an Indian politician" who seems to be desperate to get a Wikipedia article published, but hasn't so far been shown to be notable: see eg. Sockpuppet investigations/RAJAGOPALAN SRINIVASAN/Archive and Sockpuppet investigations/PavanKishoreG/Archive. It's got to a point where if I see 'Annamalai', I assume there's something dodgy going on! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:14, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

hi the reference is from Urdu Wikipedia
it's from 1960s, a news paper or book page reference Monthly Sharia Sukkur :biography number, page : 414) I was able to get this reference as its in urdu and it was posted 7 to 8 years ago on a urdu Wikipedia page SaneFlint (talk) 21:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Merely copying the incomplete reference from The Urdu Wikipedia simply won't suffice, either find and verify the correct reference or remove the content. Theroadislong (talk) 21:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * can you see this screenshot just pointing out same reference
 * https://ibb.co/5jdBLhX
 * https://usvah.org/2013/12/15/sindh-men-rashdi-khandan-ka-khandani-o-tareekhi-pas-manzar-or-un-ki-deeni-khidmat-ka-jaiza/ SaneFlint (talk) 21:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * https://ibb.co/rbKqgcX
 * translated here🙂 SaneFlint (talk) 21:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have verified same reference, thats why I said this :) unfortunately many things can't be found in English this is very bad but what I can do 🙂 I'm trying my best to explain :) SaneFlint (talk) 21:28, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * if you're not satisfied with it let me know I will delete the quote it least I tried my best to explain 🙂 ill wait for your approval or disapproval. please let me know SaneFlint (talk) 21:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I can see you are trying but it all seems such desperately poor quality, the sources shouldn't be this hard to find or access if the subject is actually notable. Theroadislong (talk) 21:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * subject is notable but things aren't easily found in English here everything was mostly done in urdu and Sindhi that's a huge issue but now we are getting better with it as more and more are getting closer to English than to other languages, in old times they were also relying on Islamic hijri calender not like as we do now 🙂 SaneFlint (talk) 21:43, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * our media things and news papers things can't compete with western news papers and outlets, that's a huge gape hopefully in the coming future we will be able to follow same way, that's why I joined English Wikipedia only to expand the community over English as we people Sindh aren't really relying much on Sindhi or Urdu languages but English which seems clear path as well for people to be open minded SaneFlint (talk) 21:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sayyid Nidawi quote was found easily with a best quality in yad e Raftagan, while Sanaullah Amritsari quote was printed in 1960s, imagine finding references of 1960 in English language isn't easy but all other information are here available to us only in Sindhi and Urdu. I have couple books with me as well they mention every thing about the subject. you know Capricorns never give up and I feel it's my first subject after it's success ill be able to expend more better with various topics :) without you and other guys I wouldn't really get better thanks to you and other fellow mates I'm on this position. I have learnt alot 🤗 SaneFlint (talk) 21:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * now tell me last thing I don't wanna disturb you much. are you satisfied with the quote or I can go ahead to remove it I would love to follow what our fellow mates says! SaneFlint (talk) 21:50, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have added new link[ next to the quote]where quote with Urdu ref is mentioned
 * https://usvah.org/2013/12/15/sindh-men-rashdi-khandan-ka-khandani-o-tareekhi-pas-manzar-or-un-ki-deeni-khidmat-ka-jaiza/
 * https://ibb.co/5jdBLhX ss
 * also on last in page there are literally 10 reference this website is genuine/ reliable
 * hope I did correct 🙂 SaneFlint (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Grae Cleugh
Hi I just finished my tea and cjhecked a page I was working on draft:Grae Cleugh which seems to have attracted a bit of unwanted attention.

It has been nominated for speedy deletion, contested by myself and other users.

Can you please remove the speedy delete template as no evidence to support the deletion was provided. 86.135.202.183 (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That can only be removed by an admin and I see no reason why they would do that, the speedy deletion tag was appropriately applied. Theroadislong (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest on page for Jeffrey B. Perry
Hello. You just moments ago flagged this draft I have been working on as a 'conflict of interest' claiming I have a 'close connection' with the subject... Very curious how you came to this conclusion and what grounds you have to even claim this without any sources at all. I have no connection with the subject please remove this spurious claim. 2601:86:103:7410:8CA:A7EA:7A28:E48D (talk) 18:30, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Please log in when you post. Theroadislong (talk) 18:52, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Apologies for that I am now logged in. That was me above. Pushingrocks (talk) 20:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

need a guidance for my biography
hi, Theroadislong, we are having many many articles sources and press releases for the support of this biography and i have provide Times of India as it is a biggest news paper in India and this press releases are connect to biography i am a bit confuse please guide me

if you put Iqbal Memon Officer in google you will get all the press releases and many articles sources and blog written by many bloggers and editors so its please guide me Aimjfindia786 (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * many of the articles sources and press releases are in urdu and gujrati language will it be consider by Wikipedia Aimjfindia786 (talk) 15:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Mr Iqbal Memon Officer has same reputation, same work similar story in India as Abdul Sattar Edhi use to have in Pakistan Aimjfindia786 (talk) 15:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As before press releases are NOT independent sources and The Times of India is NOT a reliable source, neither are blogs. Theroadislong (talk) 17:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Bernadette Giacomazzo
Sorry, Theroadislong, but I'm not sure why you accepted this; I know you as a diligent reviewer. Have a look at the history, if only to see which material was removed by three or four different editors, and why--the sourcing is just particularly bad. For instance, a self-published book had an Amazon link to the book, an Amazon link to the co-author, and a review in a fanzine; and another self-published book was "verified" by an Kirkus Indie link--which are paid reviews. Please consider whether the editor's latest edit, which restored poorly sourced promotional material and removed a COI template (for the third time, I believe), should be reverted and the editor warned or partially blocked for promotional editing. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * To be accepted at WP:AFC it only needs to have a 50 50 chance of survival at WP:AFD, feel free to take it there, it is not a well sourced article and we all have errors of judgement sometimes. Theroadislong (talk) 17:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Miguel and the Living Dead
Hi,

i removed discogs as biographical sources. In some places in the text, Discogs was used only as a source of records and bands in which the musicians played and play, and as a source of labels MKutera74 (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

E/C on AFC review
Never seen this happen before, have you? So weird. Fine with yours overriding mine, just amused. Star  Mississippi  19:38, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I've had it happen a few times, it was a toss up between reject or decline, happy with reject next time. Theroadislong (talk) 19:47, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I lean reject when it's "there's no way this will be notable within six months so please spend your time elsewhere" but yeah, agree that it's a toss up. Star   Mississippi  19:54, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Changes
Hi, I changed Ivan Melendez page based on a request he made. Hispanic Titanic is a nickname that was made up for him in college not his actual name. He is no longer in college and would like that removed. He would also like to update his photo. Please let me know how we can do that. Thank you. Carahtx (talk) 21:42, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You can request edits with the template edit COI on the article talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 22:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

why was Gravity management rejected? it is similar to Wefunder page? are they advertising?
why was Gravity management rejected? it is similar to Wefunder page? are they advertising? Annhad999 (talk) 22:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Quite possibly yes, see other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 22:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * there are MANY asset mangers that are defined through an article on your platform Annhad999 (talk) 22:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding the draft:Mohamed Aarab
Hello Theroadislong I added reliable Arabic sources because there are no sources in English. You can try to translate the sources. I also worked on improving the article several times, as your colleague pointed out before, to add sources to paragraphs and I added them, but you always refuse.As I see, there are several pages that do not have sufficient and inconsistent sources that have been approved. I hope to reconsider or try to accept them to help other users improve them. Thank you. Chamosuhdod (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sources do not have to be in English but you do need to show how they pass the notability criteria. Theroadislong (talk) 19:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I tried my best to explain that. I added some of his musical collaborations, and I added a discography that is not complete, but I added some of his productions, and I tried to format the text in a way that meets Wikipedia’s requirements. You can read the article again and reconsider.Thank you for your response and explanation, have a good day Chamosuhdod (talk) 19:24, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I reformatted the article and deleted the IMDb source and changed it with a new source. Can you take a look because I did everything in this article and added all the required things? Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience. Chamosuhdod (talk) 16:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Uman Response
Hi She is notable for being a prolific artist from Somalia, representing a country not known for its contemporary art, Also being one of the few successful queer and trans black artist. hence her being supported by a Blue Chip Gallery Hauser & Wirth The gallery represents over 80 artists and artists’ estates, including Frank Bowling, Mark Bradford, Stefan Brüggemann, George Condo, Roni Horn, Rashid Johnson, Paul McCarthy, Christina Quarles, Pipilotti Rist, Lorna Simpson and Avery Singer, and is responsible for artist estates and foundations including the Estate of Philip Guston, Louise Bourgeois, and the Jack Whitten Estate. Nabil vega (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Did you read the criteria at WP:NARTIST? Notability cannot be inherited from being associated with a "blue chip gallery". Theroadislong (talk) 17:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Submission for Ivor Davis, author listing on Wikipedia
Hello: I think you sent me a note saying that there were not enough reference listing to qualify for a page on Wiki so I added nine more for a total now of 17. Please advise if you can what else I need do to gain approval.

Thanks, David DavidinVentura (talk) 17:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I just commented on your draft. Theroadislong (talk) 17:56, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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Request to review a draft article
Hello, can you review the draft:Mohamed Aarab I added everything you asked of me and I also rephrased the article again. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience Chamosuhdod (talk) 01:38, 21 December 2023 (UTC)