User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 97

Foremost Dairy Products Article Edit
Thank you for editing links. I wasn't sure if every mention of something should be linked or just maybe the first mention. In the future I will limit them. On another note, was it you that flagged it for COI? If so, could you please explain why and discuss with me. FYI, I am new at this. Thanks. Thomas Dutchman (talk) 21:37, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Because you say here that you “have permission from JCPenney Collection. DeGolyer Library, Southern Methodist University to use materials they have provided me specifically for use in creating a Wikipedia article”.  Theroadislong (talk) 21:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * In researching this, I came across reference to the JC Penney collection there. I emailed them and asked about access to the collection. They replied that the material was not digitized and asked specifically what I was interested in. I told them about the Wikipedia article I was writing using newspaper articles as source and provided a link to the article for them to see. They then scanned and sent me what they had relating to Foremost Dairy. They provided this in specific response to request to use material in the article. This why I say I have permission. If I am doing something wrong, please advise. Thomas Dutchman (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. See Image use policy they would have to agree to release the photographs under an acceptable free license. Note that images that are licensed for use only on Wikipedia, or only for non-commercial or educational use, or under a license that doesn't allow for the creation of modified/derived works, are unsuitable. Theroadislong (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, Thanks. Adding those images is not important. Do you see any other issue with the article? I've tried to be meticulous in citing sources and double checking everything. Thomas Dutchman (talk) 22:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You could read WP:REFB for help with formatting sources correctly and WP:MOS for more general formatting help. Theroadislong (talk) 22:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will read more on the formatting and editing of articles. Thomas Dutchman (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Need your help on Redcliffe labs wiki page
Hi Theroadislong, I was caught up with work therefore, I was not able to revert to your message. I am new to the Wikipedia system and went through the long content of Conflict of Interest, which was well written, and I am completely aligned with it. In regards to my edits, I am not connected to Redcliffe, so there is no option of a paid connection. I would like to positively contribute to Wikipedia and will definitely read all the terms and policies first. Later, I will make a constructive contribution. If I have any doubts, there is a Live Help Chat option, which I discovered recently. I hope to continue with more edits by waiting for your revert. Aman Prabhakar (talk) 05:05, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting the Manning Wardle L Class article
Thanks for accepting the Manning Wardle L Class article. You're a legend. 203.221.17.174 (talk) 04:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


 * FYI, this is a community banned editor, and their drafts should be deleted on sight, per . Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Feel free to take it to WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * So you're just going to ignore that they are CBANNed? That's quite disappointing, I had expected better of you than that. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Theroadislong,
 * This morning I deleted a lot of redirects to articles in main space about steam locomotives that were deleted for CSD G5 reasons and the commonality among them is that you accepted them all through AFC and moved them out of Draft space. But they were all deleted by Ponyo for being the work of a sockpuppet that is located in Australia. We have an ongoing problem with an active sockpuppet who works on these types of articles and now that you've been informed about this, I hope you will be a little more skeptical when you see a sudden influx of newly created articles on this subject. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 18:52, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What reason for declining would you advise? Some have been created by other users but edited by the sock. Theroadislong (talk) 18:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If they have significant edits by editors in good standing, they don't need to be deleted, just reverted to the state they were in before the banned editor started editing them. I appreciate that it isn't easy to recognize if the editor in question is legitimate or not if you aren't familiar with them, and that AfC reviewers are not omniscient, but apart from the geolocation to Sydney or Melbourne there are some behavioral and writing style tells that allow for identification. If in doubt, myself and User:Pi.1415926535 are very familiar with this editor. WT:TRAINS is also available as a resource if needed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

About Jidosodanjo
I don't intend to make advertisement. Jidosodanjo is official institution in Japan and sometime have serious effect to foreign residents who have children, because Jidosodanjo have strong power to pick up their children to child asylum. Once the detension started, no parents can communicate for long time. So we need to descrive and introduce it toward many people. I think I need your help to brush up the article. Balmysky (talk) 22:01, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry I haven't the faintest idea what you are referring to, but you might need to read WP:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. Theroadislong (talk) 23:54, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy holidays!


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Thank you for participating in AfC November 2023 Backlog Drive

 * Sorry I was slacking this year, Merry Xmas! Theroadislong (talk) 10:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Teresa Wennberg
Hello and thank you for helping! Has this been declined because the sources are listed at the end without in-line citations added to the text? All those sources are fully independent and reliable. Nifsiin (talk) 14:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I declined it because it wasn't clear how they pass WP:NARTIST, but it would help if sources were placed directly after the content that they support. Theroadislong (talk) 14:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Theroadislong: Enjoy the holiday season&#32;and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Seeking review of VP Choice Awards Wikipedia entry
Hi @Theroadislong,

Hope you're having a great day! I am seeking another review for my wikipedia entry for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:VP_Choice_Awards

Looking forward your kind assistance on passible making this approved.

Thank you Inyiyruma (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red January 2024
--Lajmmoore (talk) 20:19, 28 December 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Kindly check now
I re write dry natural way please check now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Harishankar_Narayanan Aravindkumararjunan1986 (talk) 09:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Promotional tone
Hi, you put a comment saying that my article was written in a promotional tone. Could you explain to me what that is/why that is seen as incorrect. I don't believe my article breaches any wiki TOS but this is for a degree project so would prefer it to be as correct as can be CattJohn (talk) 21:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * For example this "Access to this programme has allowed Frontex to get up-to-date satellite images of the Mediterranean; as such, vessels in distress are able to be rescued much quicker. However, as Frontex's vessels and much of its operating systems are provided by the European Commission they are subject to EU inclination. As evidenced by the transition in recent years from humanitarian effort, to border control effort, to law enforcement effort. The securitization of migrants crossing this border has become ever present in European politics and now evident in its humanitarian obligations." is entirely unsourced and promotional. You have used primary sources and press releases elsewhere which are NOT independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 22:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I am still unsure what the meaning of 'promotional' is but I can easily site the sources for these statements.
 * Securitization is a massive threat to humanitarian organisations and is a very real thing that scholars have discussed, I will be sure to add the sources for that.
 * What do you mean by primary sources being not independent? My primary sources are from ECJ, EU Commissions and press statements that describe the events as happened; in all of my historical research primary sources are a standard and used as the most important form of citation. While they can be subject to bias when there are other supporting statements and events, like in this article, I don't understand why they should not be used CattJohn (talk) 17:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Editing Wikipedia is not like "historical research" we use secondary sources here, sources that are unconnected with the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 17:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Is this to say that I cannot use any primary sources? Or may I use primary sources to dictate events as that is often the only type of source available.
 * Would a paper that is commissioned by EU Parliament but written by scholars not directly working within the EU still too primary?
 * I am open for constructive advice CattJohn (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Writing a Wikipedia article from scratch is the hardest task there is here, see WP:YFA for more advice, primary sources can be used to confirm basic facts but secondary sources are what we need to confirm notability of the topic. Theroadislong (talk) 18:12, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Lucy Letby
Hi there and happy New Year! I'm just messaging as, recently, you suggested (rightly, imo) the blocked advocacy-pushing editor Richard D. Gill had his talk page access revoked after he came back on his talk and continued his advocacy:. As you might have already been aware, he had originally been reported on ANI and then blocked for advocacy in trying to portray Lucy Letby as wrongfully convicted:.

But now some editors suspiciously want to replace the first line on Lucy Letby that says "British serial killer and former neonatal nurse" to "is a British former neonatal nurse, convicted of the serial murder of seven infants and attempted murder of six others". So basically, they want to get rid of her being called a serial killer, on various grounds including "I don't think we can assert in Wiki's voice that she is a murderer". But surely, the place we decide where someone is guilty of a crime is in court, and having been convicted it is perfectly reasonable to describe her as a murderer in Wikivoice? I might understand it more if there were massive and consistent doubts about her conviction, but there isn't any any such wider doubts.

What I think is particularly improper is that the whole debate was started after the already-blocked Richard Gill apparently appeared again(!) to evade his block and suggest the whole intro be changed to claim she is just an "alleged" killer: - EXACTLY the same wording he'd suspiciously been posting and asking for on his own Twitter account!:. So basically a blocked advocacy editor has got some people persuaded that we shouldn't call her a killer... 86.187.168.125 (talk) 11:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The IP who has canvassed you here is a sockpuppet who is misrepresenting this to you. They have already been blocked once on this RfC for canvassing and now they have canvassed you. I know you are a good faith editor of good repute, but this canvassing by the IP is egregious. please note. MeltingDistrict is at it again. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

2024!
Our clocks are different but 2024 is either within hours or already here. Wish you a great one! Cheers! S0091 (talk) 22:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A couple of hours to go happy new year to you too. Theroadislong (talk) 22:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Clara Millicent Taylor
Thanks for your comments on my submission for a new page on CMT. To explain the purpose: for several decades two women scientists (Dr Millicent Taylor (1871-1960) and Clara Millicent Taylor (1885-1940) have been conflated on Wiki and this mix up has got everywhere on the web and in publications e.g. The Biographical Dictionary of Women in Science by Ogilvie M et al (2014), Routledge.  By coincidence both were notable organic chemists, both were notable educators, and both at one stage lived in Bristol.  The wiki page for Dr Millicent Taylor has now been corrected with information relating to CMT removed.  I am now trying to write a page for CMT to acknowledge her contribution to science and education and also to clear up the mess /conflation.  Aside from the desire to clear up the mess, I feel her contribution is notable. During her research career she worked and published with two of the foremost chemists for her period, Thomas Hill Easterfield in New Zealand and (later Sir) William Jackson Pope, in Cambridge. Her research career then probably hit a glass-ceiling and, to earn a living as a single woman, moved into teaching at which she also excelled. I hope this helps. Many thanks. Nyilima (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Tag on MetroPlusHealth Draft Submission
@Theroadislong Hello, there. I noticed that you added an "undisclosed paid" tag to the MetroPlusHealth article submission. Is there a way for me to appeal this? I am not affiliated with MetroPlusHealth. Thinkingcreatively (talk) 20:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have removed the tag, I added it because Draft:MetroPlusHealth is so blatantly promotional that it looks like somebody being paid to promote them. Theroadislong (talk) 21:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Thinkingcreatively not to mention during the two years or so you have been an editor here, MetroPlus is the only topic in which you have shown any great interest. If you do not have a COI, then you are at least an advocate even if it is simply personal interest.  Either way, the draft violates Wikipedia's Neutral point of view policy and does not demonstrate it meets WP:NCORP.  S0091 (talk) 21:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Theroadislong Hi there, thanks for removing the tag. I wanted to take a moment to write back to make sure that I have a thoughtful response that explains where I'm coming from but doesn't come off as defensive. This is a long reply, but hopefully it will help clear some things up:
 * In hindsight, looking at how the article started, I see where you're coming from on this. I originally modeled what I wrote off of what I saw from Wikipedia articles about other health insurance organizations, since those were approved for publication. Now, I'm realizing that I should have been looking at articles that are not about a specific organization and more about a topic related to public health. Public health articles, not ones about companies and organizations, probably tend to be more neutral from the start.
 * Here's why I wrote the article: MetroPlusHealth is something that is unique within the world of American healthcare. Almost no cities, except for Los Angeles and San Fransisco, have a prominent public health insurance option that operates as a safety net for uninsured populations. Other larger U.S. cities rely on state, not city, insurance options to form a non-Medicaid/care public health safety net. There are also few insurance organizations, whether for-profit or not-for-profit, that have been around as long as MetroPlusHealth and directly address Social Determinants of Health (SDHs). Despite decades of peer reviewed research saying that focusing on the social causes of poor health outcomes can lead to healthier and longer lives, few insurance companies use research-based initiatives to address SDHs. These three things—its age, its position as a large, municipally-led, universal healthcare option, and its SDH initiatives—made me think MetroPlusHealth is a good article topic.
 * When I was first writing this article, I was thinking about what things I could cite that would "prove" that it's worthy of publication. Awards and its connections to existing Wikipedia entries (NYFD, NYC neighborhoods, etc.) seemed like they would add helpful context about why MetroPlusHealth is important. Background information on the topics related to MetroPlusHealth's SDH initiatives was meant to show why what they were doing is connected to the outside world. Specific information about MetroPlusHealth, like the plans they offer, was meant to show that their insurance impacts many different people. All of these choices were supposed to demonstrate why MetroPlusHealth is meant to be on Wikipedia. They had the opposite effect. My approach was wrong.
 * Also, just to note: Although this is the only article I've written, I have put in edits related to other health topics (smoking, public health programs, etc.) since healthcare and public health are topics that I'm interested in and have knowledge of. I do not contribute to Wikipedia every day (or even every month, admittedly), but I do contribute. I didn't realize that my lack of consistent contributions would negatively color how article approvers view the piece I wrote. I will contribute more to help Wikipedia stay more up to date on what's happening in the world and better integrate myself into the Wikipedia community.
 * Thanks for taking the time to read this long response. I'll work on hunting down better sources for the MetroPlusHealth draft now. Thinkingcreatively (talk) 18:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Rheinhotel Dreesen
hi Theroadislong, Thank you for having a look at my article. I fixed my references. I turned my Wikipedia links into references by mistake, but now that I understand the syntax I was able to fix it. I think this article would be very valuable for an English audience, so I would greatly appreciate it if you could have another look. Thank you Yustyn Kokor (talk) 02:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft: Paul G. Hayes
Hello, Theroadislong, I believe I have properly disclosed my relationship with the subject, and have met concerns by previous editors. I'm wondering if you can advance best next steps to move towards acceptance of this article. Ndhayes1 (talk) 15:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You have two entirely unsourced sections, these must be cited per WP:BLP. Theroadislong (talk) 15:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:International Union of Marine Insurance
Thank you for your comment. Yes, sources 1-4 are from their own website and not independent, but therefore I had added sources 5-7 which are not from their own website and independent. Should I just delete sources 1-4 and resubmit again? Woiakl (talk) 16:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That wouldn't really help with getting it accepted, your draft describes what the organisation does fairly well, but Wikipedia is more interested in what independent sources have reported about them in depth, with significant coverage. See WP:NORG for the relevant criteria. Theroadislong (talk) 16:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edits on Talk page of user Diannaa
Hi bro. I got notification that you reverted my edits on talk page of admin user....Why you reverted my edts?...I just want to sorting out and asked her a question...why you so strict to me and remove my comments... On my opinion admin Diannaa just was lazy even to check my article and removed it because it was deleted earlier a few years ago? I not violated anything. Can you take a look on Draft:Spacebit (I restarted the article after she deleted my first draft)? Andy Salvatore (talk) 21:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I did apologise in my subsequent edit, it was a mistake. Sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 21:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Re: Cycling in England
Regarding my draft, what would you change to make it sound less like an essay? Cycleengland2 (talk) 16:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The question is now moot as you have been blocked. Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Re: Speedy Deletion of article: Electronic Theater Controls
Hello. I am messaging you about the speedy deletion notice on my article, Electronic Theater Controls. First, I would like to apologize for the confusion. I must admit I was a bit jumpy when it came to writing my first articles. Secondly, I ask if there is any way to revert my article back to a draft. I did not intend to publish my article yet; I was under the impression that I was creating a draft of an article because I had done the same thing last night and it had functioned correctly.

What is the best course of action at this time. Should I copy and paste the data into a new draft, or is there another way? I intend to write a comprehensive article on this subject, and would love to continue contributing to wikipedia.

Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Hugo B Hugtrain (talk) 15:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * P.S. Also, I accidentally spelt the name incorrectly. I assumed that since it was founded in the US that it would be spelt "Theater," however it is actually spelt using the British "Theatre." Hugtrain (talk) 15:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Draft:Electronic Theatre Controls was declined 7 times and then rejected, you would have to persuade the reviewer that your content was sufficiently different to warrant creating it. Theroadislong (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi again.
 * I didn't see that draft this morning because I had spelt it wrong, and was only looking at live pages. Looking at the decline history, it seems that the guy who made it was not using good sources. I think that the company is still notable enough for a page, similar to Clay Paky, another reputable lighting company. Do you think if I find good sources that there would be a chance for it to be approved? I also don't know if some of the reviewers were declining it because of the niche topic. Hugtrain (talk) 22:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

debate about Kins Ferna's (article)
Hello to all editors and wikipedia administrators, i moved the artist's page to the main page and now the page has been sent for deletion. i would like to contribute to this page with some editors who have available, I contributed this article, I think an article in the encyclopedia is more likely to be improved every day than an article in draft. So I came to appeal to all Wikipedia administrators and editors and other members of Wikipedia to come and contribute and debate about this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmilsonreis2321 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Draft is the best place to improve the article, it clearly wasn't ready for main space, having been rejected at AFC. Theroadislong (talk) 08:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How can I improve the article? What is wrong with the article for it not to be approved? Edmilsonreis2321 (talk) 18:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You need to show how they pass the criteria at WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 18:58, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * But can I continue working on the article? Edmilsonreis2321 (talk) 09:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course you can, if it is not improved it is likely to be deleted as failing WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 10:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! and now, will the article be deleted or will it remain? Edmilsonreis2321 (talk) 12:26, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! and now, will the article be deleted or will it remain? Edmilsonreis2321 (talk) 10:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * An admin will decide in due course, you need to improve it for it to stand a chance. Theroadislong (talk) 11:31, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for support! Edmilsonreis2321 (talk) 11:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

AFC message
Hello, Theroadislong,

You left a user talk page message for User:Jožo Nižnánsky but there is no editor with this username. It looks like it was a review of Draft:Jožo Nižnánsky and I guess you put the name of the draft as the name of the submitter so the draft creator has not received a notification. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you Hmm not sure how that happened, but I moved Draft:Wikipcontributor800 to Draft:Jožo Nižnánsky so something occurred then! Theroadislong (talk) 08:20, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Wikipcontributor800 to Draft:Jožo Nižnánsky
Hi Iam Wikipcontributor800.

Mistake had taken place. I wanted to start article "Jožo Nižnánsky", however by my fault it started as draft Draft:Wikipcontributor800. It has been fixed with help of user:94rain. Wikipcontributor800 (talk) 10:15, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It was actually me that fixed it here . Theroadislong (talk) 10:20, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * So thanks be to yours :)
 * I am new contributor and unexperienced. I would apologize for messing up. Wikipcontributor800 (talk) 10:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment: Goodreads and IMDb are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 23:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Im Wikipcontributor800, thank you for your comment.

Im aware goodreads and Imdb are not reliable sources. However I am confronted with lack of resources in English language as to theme concerned. Draft:Jožo Nižnánsky would like to be article on Jožo Nižnánsky, a long ago deceased Slovak language writer, generally unknown in English language environment. So general question I propose to deal with is how to deal with such cases. As to my knowledge English language wikipedia should be underpinned with English language sources primarily, but there is nothing as to this theme concerned. Thats why I have made use of goodreads and Imdb. I would be glad to know your opinion and advice. Wikipcontributor800 (talk) 10:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sources do NOT have to be in English, foreign language sources are fine. Theroadislong (talk) 10:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okey, however they are not easy to check then.
 * You now, it is possible cite many non-credible sites in foreign language, e.g in my language, and they shall be treated as reliable, only due unintelligibility.
 * I cite goodreads and IMDb only to reassure of existence of writer about whom I write article, as far as in english-language based part of internet. It should only be supporting source.
 * Main source for credibility of information as to birthdate, death and life etc, books written etc. in this case should be website of parastatal agency https://www.litcentrum.sk/en/institution/slovenske-literarne-centrum-slovak-literary-centre.
 * However as to writer concerned info is only in Slovak language. Wikipcontributor800 (talk) 10:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft: General Collective Intelligence
I saw that you identified me as having a conflict of interest with the article. However, though I consider the topic important, and though I consider myself an expert on the topic, the article isn't about me, does not promote me, and therefore by definition I don't have a conflict of interest. Unless you can identify a specific conflict of interest, I'm hoping you can remove this label as it is unfair to brand someone with a label and not give them an opportunity to defend themselves against it. CognitiveMMA (talk) 11:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * See Expert editors. Theroadislong (talk) 12:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Aïssa Aggoune article
Hi Theroadislong,

How are you doing today ? I received your message wherein you asked me : 'It's not at all clear how they are notable? They are just someone doing their job. Theroadislong (talk) 19:33, 26 December 2023'

I responded to you and clarified what seemed to be a simple misunderstanding or a miscommunication on my part. I hope the response and evidence I provided you will suffice to move this article into the wiki space! Please let me know if you have any additional questions I would be happy to help,

Happy new year 2024, i hope you and your family had a great start of the year!

Henry Prêcheur Henry.precheur (talk) 19:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

User:Keyserzozie
Hello, If you have time perhaps you could look at this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#c-Keyserzozie-20240114173900-NoorStores-20240114142400 I'm supposed to have left Wikipedia. I'm also supposed to be at work! But this is really upsetting and it just seems wrong to me. I can see you are very very senior here and might know what to do. NoorStores (talk) 11:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Arnold H. Glasow - Draft
Hi! I am still relatively new at writing Wikipedia entries. This one came about for two reasons. First, I watched a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSWTwB-_bk that had a quote at the beginning from Glasow. That sent me down the rabbit hole to learn more about him. I quickly realized that he has dozens of notable quotes on dozens of sites...but there is very little information out there about his personal life. I started researching his books...and came across a review of his book "Gloombusters" on Amazon. The reviewer felt that it was an oversight that Wikipedia did not have any entry on Glasow. I learned that he shunned the spotlight but yet he has so many incredible timeless quotes that I believe make him worthy of an entry. I am sure that I can find some more information (I believe I found his gravesite which may be helpful in validating some personal information. I guess I am looking at why you think he is not valuable enough for a Wikipedia entry? Thanks in advance for your assistance! Prairie7 (talk) 03:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * He may well be notable which is why I declined rather than reject your draft, however qa.answers.com, inspiration.rightattitudes.com and FixQuotes are not reliable sources as far as Wikipedia is concerned because they are user edited. Theroadislong (talk) 08:13, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you
I was going to leave Wikipedia. But now I will continue. Thank you for your wise and tactful interventions on Joanne Harris. NoorStores (talk) 14:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

About Draft: Amnesiac Flooding
Hi Theroadislong,

Thank you for going over the article. You have rejected the draft for lacking independent sources. I think that should not hold here. The article is about a particular algorithm and particular results in Computer Science. The article summarises the key results from peer-reviewed highly respected sources (scientific publications) which are cited. These are the best sources possible. I am indeed involved with the discovery of the results (which I tagged myself) but the results are not about me or promoting myself but bringing peer-reviewed results of general importance to the community. Please reconsider the tag or suggest how this can be addressed.

Regards. AmitabhCS (talk) 13:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Amnesiac Flooding was declined not rejected. Your draft appears to be original research with your own self written sources. You are free to re-submit and I will leave it for another reviewer, but I won't be accepting the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Appreciate that. I suppose I could also request a third party to write the wiki. Can they create a draft with the same title, or would I need to delete mine for them to use this same title? AmitabhCS (talk) 15:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Getting a third party to write it, would achieve nothing, it would still be inappropriate content. Theroadislong (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am sorry but that is a bit incomprehensible - how can peer reviewed research re-written for wikipedia be inappropriate content?(e.g. Flooding algorithm or Flooding (computer networking)). If you don't want the authors to write it (who themselves are university professors), then it has to be a third party, isnt' it? I didn't say the third party has to copy this content - they can write whatever they think they comprehend about it. AmitabhCS (talk) 16:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I suggest you ask for help at WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Flooding algorithm has zero sources and should be deleted, Flooding (computer networking) has been tagged for 9 years for being poorly sourced, see other crap exists. Theroadislong (talk) 17:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Please could you help? COI User:OwenBlacker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard Please could you look at this. I'm finding the bullying very hard to live with. NoorStores (talk) 11:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin, I'm not sure how I can help sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 11:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * thank you. It might be time for me to leave. NoorStores (talk) 11:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmm. It might be worth you having a peep and also at the Belbury talk page. NoorStores (talk) 12:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid your accusations look absurd and border on personal attacks. Please, you MUST assume good faith when editing. Theroadislong (talk) 13:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree they are absurd. It is absurd that OB would use an alt account. But, neither he nor B have denied the identification. NoorStores (talk) 15:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Can you help me learn if academia.edu is a Notable source?
Hi there, thank you for your recent review in my 1st article of the Draft:BikroyShohoj.com. I am having a really bad time figuring out what links are counted as Notable, and credible. I have some references to Journels, and rese=arch papers, referencing about my topic. For example: https://www.academia.edu/113798729/How_BikroyShohoj_s_Unorthodox_Approach_Elevates_Classified_Ads_Experience_in_Bangladesh

Is this type of reasearch and journal papers good for notability? Thanks you for much for your guidance! Yeasir Ali (talk) 04:28, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

T. Aliba Imti article
Hi There, I've just started using Wikepedia editing seriously recently and am still figuring things out. Please suggest improvement and the process for this article please. thanks Wallpattern (talk) 04:15, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded this photo and several others to the article but they disappeared and were registered in another location with no attachment to the original. Please help.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Pawsey%27s_visit_to_Nagaland_in_1960s.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallpattern (talk • contribs) 04:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Photographs do not help with notability and are not considered in any draft review, I should concentrate on improving your sources, for instance Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. Theroadislong (talk) 08:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Bruce Ryan (production designer)
Hello. I see you moved my page from mainspace and suggested I put it up for review before moving to mainspace, It was subsequently deleted before I could do so. Please advise, thank you. Sylvan1971 (talk) 05:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Your draft Draft:Bruce Ryan (production designer) was declined multiple times and finally rejected, there is nothing further you can do. Theroadislong (talk) 08:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Liz Fenwick
Hi there. Many thanks for your comments on this draft article (have responded in page talk). I've taken them onboard and made several changes to a) improve the objectivity, b) expand the bio and create a separate Awards section, and c) improve the source citations, esp. with new secondary sources. I've also taken a look at many other novelist wiki pages and I think the style and content is now comparable to those already published. Hope these changes are for the better! Thx Chris3570 (talk) 16:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Some good learnings I can use for other articles, thanks for the input. Yr latest suggestions now incorporated. Chris3570 (talk) 10:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

To User:Theroadislong
I have redone the article please check it again 🙏🏻 Dishant Valmiki (talk) 13:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Josei Tennō images
Hiya! I am wondering what images would you recommend removing off Draft:Josei Tennō and do you think it's important? Thanks for you feedback on the page to! Camillz (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The images are so large they are hiding the text, images do NOT help with getting drafts accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 19:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * what size should they be? Camillz (talk) 20:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft Page Resubmission
Hey Theroadislong,

I finally resubmitted that draft you told me to resubmit. While you had indicated you were going to approve it immediately, I've since added a few more references and expanded the public opinion section, so you might want to scan over it if that's important to you.

Cheers, jasavina Jasavina (talk) 04:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

references need to be independent of the subject
Thank you. Please can you explain further? For example, how do I "prove" the subject spoke many languages, apart from giving examples of published articles in other languages, or references in published articles? I have given details of press cuttings that I have with name of newspaper, date etc. I am able to refer to a published article that itself contains factual inaccuracies because clearly the journal that published the article did not ask for evidence (i.e. date of death). So I am not clear what "independent of subject" means and I am struggling to meet requirements, when I own a lot of evidence (e.g. letters, photographs etc) but cannot refer to it. Thank you for your help. IonaFyne (talk) 16:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You don't need to "prove"anything. You are working backwards, Wikipedia articles merely summarise what independent sources have already reported, if the sources don't mention that he "spoke many languages" then we simply don't mention it. Theroadislong (talk) 17:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Helpful; thank you. I continue working on my draft article. IonaFyne (talk) 15:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Jožo Nižnánsky
Hi - the source I added was published by the Slovak Ministry of Culture, it is substantial and reliable. It's no longer poorly sourced, even with only one source. I was in the process of adding more sourcing. WP would be better with this brief info rather than without it. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 09:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Then submit it for review and let reviewers decide, but be advised one "official" source will not be enough, there is zero evidence of passing WP:NWRITER. Theroadislong (talk) 09:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * An entry on the website of the Slovak Literary Centre is a claim of notability itself. I've expanded the article and added another relaible and substantial source. Thanks for your patience and friendly collaborative attitude. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 09:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I am curious to know why my contributions were totally deleted, after being supported with sources. I do my best to add that and to provide with sources. E.g. "Legacy" section - It is clear true, that there is a street named after Jožo Nižnánsky in municipality of Brestovany and memorial plate, you can see ti clearly on google maps even.

Secondly, I could provide every fact and figure with due citing, though in Slovak language. But everything is deleted and article not submitted.

Please duly see another articles, e.g. that one of Johannes Maximilian, who reviewed Jožo Nižnánsky article and rejected it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Magg

For it is unreliable as to dates, Literature and refernces only in German language.

Please excuse my forwardness, I would not like to be rude, anyway. Looking forward to discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipcontributor800 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I have little idea what you asking here? Sources do not have to be in English, I merely commented that Goodreads and IMDb were not reliable sources on your draft Draft:Jožo Nižnánsky, I don't read Slovak so cannot comment on the suitability of your other sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * My apologies.
 * I have thought you are the reviewer of the draft, and acquainted with entire editing history, which is apparently not so. Probably thats why my reply seems to be uncomprehensible for you.
 * I have taken a notice on general unreliability of Goodreads and IMDb
 * and am thankful for that.
 * Thank you for your time, best regards. Wikipcontributor800 (talk) 09:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red February 2024
--Lajmmoore (talk 20:11, 28 January 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Draft on General Collective Intelligence
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. CognitiveMMA (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Reveald, Inc Draft
you made an interesting comment that this article was "blatant advertising" - but it reads with the same neutral voice as most examples from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Computer_security_software_companies care to expand on your thoughts? Rockpool (talk) 15:38, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * because it just tells us what the company does, whereas it should report on what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to discuss. Theroadislong (talk) 16:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You can get other opinions here WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Theroadislong (talk) 16:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * thankyou! Rockpool (talk) 17:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

deletion
Hi. I wanted to know why you want to delelte my article. Please help me on how to update that? Aira28 (talk) 19:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Citing references
Hi @Theroadislong, if I want to cite the same reference more than once, do I give it the same ref number or enter it as a new ref? If it's the same number, how do I do that. I tried copy paste but that didn't work. thanks Dinky13 (talk) 09:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Minneapolis Public Housing Authority
Theroadislong, please take another look at the sources in Draft:Minneapolis Public Housing Authority, and my comments on the article talk page. With one exception the sources are independent of the subject, and include reputable news organizations and governmental and other third-party entities.

Regards, Kablammo (talk) 13:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Added citations to entry on "Jerzy Kubina"
Thank you for reviewing my entry for Jerzy Kubina. I have added more citations, which now include the New York Times and such important journals as Artforum.

I hope this is sufficient. יאַנקל (talk) 18:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I will leave it for another reviewer to be fair, I still not clear how they pass the criteria at WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

help
hi. Will this work if I add more links in references without citing or do I also need to cite. Please tell me which part of article need more citations. Humaira28 (talk) 11:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You have virtually no independent reliable sources, which is what we base articles on, please remove Amazon and Linkedin.com they are useless. Theroadislong (talk) 11:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi. I have added a reference and cite it in introduction that is of her interview in which she they talk about her book and general diversity. Will it be fine? Humaira28 (talk) 11:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Interviews are NOT independent sources and confer zero notability.Theroadislong (talk) 11:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I request you check my article again before submitting it, because I am doing work on it. When I am done, I will request you here. Please tell me, will you see it? Humaira28 (talk) 12:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You have not edited Draft:Rachele Focardi since my decline, if you re-submit I will leave it for another reviewer. Theroadislong (talk) 12:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi. I have make edits and publish it, but didnot submitt it. Will you please review and I have removed previous linked in reference but add a new reference because it an article. Not the subject profile. Humaira28 (talk) 12:45, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * xyzatwork.com, cheerspublishing.com, speakerideas.com and mhprofessional.com, Amazon and Linkedin.com are not reliable, independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 13:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have make lot more edits and hope this time it is according to Wikipedia. Will you please review it again? Thanks. Humaira28 (talk) 15:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You still have poor sources, you need to submit for a review. Theroadislong (talk) 15:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Will online magzine will be fine???
 * https://issuu.com/hrmasia/docs/hrm_feb_mar_2023 Humaira28 (talk) 15:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * And are podcats reliable? Humaira28 (talk) 15:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi. I am not a paid editor, how can I be? I am not even experienced if I am one, I won't make such silly mistakes, I just wanted to write an article on Wikipdia, but after my disapproval, I was just amazed by wikipedia standards and I worked on it continously because I am free and have nothing else to do, but as I see, I am not getting succesful I have decided to omit it. I t will be my last try; if I am successful, the article will be published; else wise I won't write again. I have choosed this subjct on someone suggestion and I thought it will be the most easy thing ever as I see she has lots of fame and has lots data on internet. But it is the difficult thing ever. Please allow me to submit for last time as I have made more edits previously. Thanks.  Humaira28 (talk) 16:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you have a connection with Rachele Focardi? You seem very personally invested in this topic. 331dot (talk) 15:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I worked on it so much that now I want to succeed. And I am actually amazed by Wikipedia standards and wanted to know when will my written article is according to its standard. Humaira28 (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * So that's a no? You have no connection? 331dot (talk) 15:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Page mover granted
Hello, Theroadislong. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

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 * Requested moves
 * Category:Requested moves, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you VERY much, that will be useful sometimes. Theroadislong (talk) 13:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

On Bianca Censori
Good evening.

Earlier today, you nominated a redirect that I had created for Bianca Censori for WP:SPEEDYDELETION under the WP:G6 criteria. I'm not entirely familiar with the process, but although it does outline that you can delete pages to prep for page moves, I'm not sure this is permitted for drafts that are currently in this state, and will likely not see the light of the mainspace for a while.

Pinging, who deleted the page. — Knightof  theswords  04:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Knightoftheswords281: The redirect was holding up a page move and it had no meaningful history to it. While I do think the notability is questionable, it's possibly notable, and it's not so over the line that it's CSD worthy. I don't have a particular reason to decline the request. Hey man im josh (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the move, Bianca Censori easily passes WP:GNG with multiple reliable sources discussing her in depth. Theroadislong (talk) 07:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah okay. I just wanted a clarification. — Knightof  theswords  15:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Seldon_Charles_Forrester_Farmer
Thank you for reviewing this article and providing your feedback. S C F Farmer was awarded an OBE for his service, wrote peer reviewed articles that are still being cited 70 years later and was internationally respected in his field. I am puzzled as to why he does not qualify? There are many examples of music personalities (for example) who get a category to themselves in the metadata (e.g. Taylor Swift), where as entire categories of social sciences are missing (e.g. Probation). I appreciate that some references are offline chapters in books or paywalled, but this is the case with many professions. I would be grateful for advice as to why this is still declined... and how I can improve the chances of acceptance. 27 years leading probation in this country and advising around the world is fairly significant, enough to be recognised by his own profession in their centenary celebrations in 2007. However persistent online references are challenging to identify due to multiple reorganisations and privatisation of probation, wikis could redress some of that balance, for people whose lives were largely pre-digital era and/or limited about what could be spoken about during their lifetimes. This can help people towards their research and highlight the contribution of public servants from a time when personal notoriety was not sought and references to them were often by role rather than name. Thanks once again for helping to improve Wikipedia. Zaccwm (talk) 10:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC) Zaccwm (talk) 00:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Would appear to meet WP:ANYBIO notability requirements on basis of Order_of_the_British_Empire Zaccwm (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! That's all for scrolling! — Preceding unsigned comment added by OHWHAT29! (talk • contribs) 01:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Henry A Duffy page
Thank you for your comments. I have added additional citations and references to the draft page, including an appointment by Ronald Reagan, and additional information on various positions Mr Duffy held during his tenure. I have resubmitted the draft for review, and look forward to any other suggestions you might have to improve the page’s viability for Wikipedia. Jnorman34 (talk) 21:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)