User talk:Thesevenseas/Archive 3

It's been a pleasure...
To start running into you all over the place again. Good to see your words of wisdom around :) sonia ♫  04:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's good to be back. I'm not sure about the words of wisdom though! :)  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   311° 10' 59" NET   20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Arbitrarily changing the behavior of widely-used templates
Please don't arbitrarily change the behavior of widely-used templates, as you did to at in having it automatically generate a signature, as this causes problems for everyone who is used to the old way it worked; see WP:VPT for example. I have reverted those edits. If you have done the same to any other templates, please go back and revert yourself.

FYI, when you updated the documentation you had the last case wrong. It should have been like this: See how the sig is completely out of place there? Anomie⚔ 10:52, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, I understand that the edit was a mistake, but it was a good faith edit, not an attempt to mess up the template. I was not around with the template, but attempting to improve its functionality. I am not here to screw up templates, so try to assume good faith. Thanks.   Set Sail For The Seven Seas   300° 53' 0" NET   20:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:Prod blp
I've reverted your change to Template:Prod blp, it seemed to be producing garbage code. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 02:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It should be fixed now.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   192° 5' 0" NET   12:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Registered Editor / Signator not working
Please see Wikipedia talk:Service awards, 21 Registered Editor / Signator not working.

doesn't work at the Signator level, only at Burba and above. Skibden (talk)

Never mind, it was fixed by another guy. Skibden (talk) 19:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Never mind again.. Another guy is apparently you.... Perhaps I should go to bed...? Skibden (talk) 19:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Template talk:Cfd
 * Replied at talk page.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   260° 32' 45" NET   17:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Here you go

 * Yay, another barnstar! My collection's getting bigger!  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   325° 13' 15" NET   21:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) Thanks for noticing it was half a beat fast :) — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм •  Champagne?  •  9:19am  • 23:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem :)  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   352° 52' 0" NET   23:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Template PERs
I've just turned down several week-old PER requests you've made for protected templates. I'm not a "templatey" admin, so I'd prefer to see evidence of sandbox testing to ensure they work before making changes, particularly if the change is merely to simplify code rather than for any tangible benefit. Once you've proved the code, feel free to re-instate the tags. —  Tivedshambo   (t/c) 22:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, explaining the purpose of a change is definitely necessary. And please continue to use /sandbox rather than placing lots of code on the talk page! Cheers &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Cymru.lass
 * Replied.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   14° 38' 15" NET   00:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * And another! cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 01:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * A third cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 01:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fourth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 01:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fifth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 01:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sixth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 02:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Seventh? --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 02:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Eighth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 18:10, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ninth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 20:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ninth-and-three-quarters --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 03:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Tenth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 16:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Eleventh --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 17:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Twelfth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 05:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thirteenth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 22:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fourteenth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 13:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * New, completely unrelated talkback --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 22:39, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Second --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 22:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Third --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 23:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Fourth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 00:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Fifth --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 00:15, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Another new talkback --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 23:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Second --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 00:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Smile!
Thank you! LoveActresses (talk) 16:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

CHU stuff
Thanks again for your work clerking the CHU pages. In general, usurps are only processed in a speedy manner when it is to merge with a pre-existing SUL. There are a limited number of other reasons that come rarely (e.g. indef blocked targets blocked for vandalism), but "vanilla" usurps will usually still be held for 7 days - just FYI. Keep up the good work, – xeno talk 17:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC) I realize I probably created this belief with my edit summaries, but the "main" and contingent reason was always the SUL


 * On an unrelated note, I'm going to try to install a "move target talk page" into the usurp templates that will give a button to move (without redirect) the talk page (or user page +talk page, if it exists) since 23819 is taking longer than I'd hoped to be fulfilled. Feel free to give this a shot before I get a round tuit. Cheers, – xeno talk  17:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. I'll remember that in future. I'll have a look into that, however I believe moving a page without redirect is an admin privilege, so I wouldn't be able to get the full advantage of it. Thanks.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   263° 22' 14" NET   17:33, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yea, it will be hard for you to test it. – xeno talk 17:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * [ Unless... ] ;)  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   265° 42' 0" NET   17:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * 'Spose I could make you a bot for a day, but some buttons can't be unpressed! ;> – xeno talk 20:50, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Ha, I was wondering why he 'edited' his comment. I liked it before he edited it though! Haha, just kidding. Keep up the excellent work! Thanks! Jmanfffreak (talk) 20:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You would do, now you gotta wait! :P Hmm... the bot flag's only good for though. You know what I actually meant! Guess it's high time for you to become a Steward!   Set Sail For The Seven Seas   317° 3' 0" NET   21:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I managed to hack it together =] – xeno talk 14:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It works quite nicely. You may want another link after the usurp and before the rename in order to move the old userpages to the new userspace.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   220° 51' 0" NET   14:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * That gets done automagically upon the move (and in that case, we want the redirects, so there is no need for a hacky workaround to 23819). Thanks for fixing usurp4 =) – xeno talk 14:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Next project: Detect (using parser & str functions) failure to remove "CURRENT" and "NEW" from start of parameters, and strip in subst process. – xeno talk 16:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - as seen in the link you gave.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   256° 41' 0" NET   17:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Gettin' there, but I envisioned us using str right to automagically strip the chars. – xeno talk 17:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Nice! Though, I would probably move the stripping into Template:renameuser so the header can be proper too, and renameuser2 can use less live parserfunctions. Thanks =] – xeno talk 17:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - as an extra, it will detect if there is one space before the name and strip it accordingly. This is so that some of the logs work properly.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   280° 9' 30" NET   18:40, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Some weird encoding going on with the spaces: . I remember I had this exact problem with xsign, I had to outsource to fix it. – xeno talk 18:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks like it's something do to with the str right template. How did you get round the problem with the xsign template?  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   323° 25' 45" NET   21:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Oops - I forgot all about this. And then remembered when I saw xsign seems to have regressed ... =\ – xeno talk 22:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * If you can't get it sorted, maybe ask or  to take a look, both of whom helped fix up xsign. – xeno talk  20:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I found the problem. It's at this template. However, it is physically impossible to fix due to the stripping of whitespace by the software.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   330° 51' 45" NET   22:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I tried my best to fix it, but even using Template:Chr fails since it needs to be substituted, giving a standard space, which is then stripped out in the templates above it.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   298° 59' 45" NET   19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hm... Well at least it works fine when in-template. If the headers still have CURRENT and NEW still, that's an insignificant & acceptable annoyance. Thanks for your efforts on this. – xeno talk 12:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

&larr; One thing that we really don't have any hard-and-fast guiderules on are SUL conflicts for other-project accounts. In general, if an account has been inactive for over a year, and has less than about 25 edits per year of inactivity, I wouldn't consider it a blocker for SUL-claim purposes (e.g.). So I wouldn't really worry about talking about best claim in situations where the other-project accounts are lightly used and quite dormant (though it may be worthwhile to point them out so the user knows they may have to usurp them on other projects to fully unify - especially for "core" projects like commons or meta. [Though, If the SUL already exists, that's another story (e.g.)]. – xeno talk 12:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll remember that in future. Also, the code that strips out CURRENT and NEW would indeed work best transcluded rather than substituted. I'll have another look at that at some point.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   348° 3' 45" NET   23:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * This just kinda bloats the template for a one-off mistake that won't re-occur after is fulfilled. I think a better way to go about it would be to replace user14 with a template that has a link to the "target logs". Not sure if a suitable one already exists. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk  13:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Now uses user23. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 13:18, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Good job! It's much better now! At least now we clerks can check to see if you 'crats actually performed the usurp or rename! :) I won't be around for a while so when I return I'll see the results.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   257° 59' 0" NET   17:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I know you're on wikibreak, but...
Hey, I know you're on wikibreak, so this is a message for when you get back. I just created a template that can be found at User:Cymru.lass/archive notice. It's sort of a notice for people who post messages in talkpages' archives. When you get back, would you look it over? Thanks! --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 01:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   189° 38' 0" NET   12:38, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Template changes
Hi, re your recent changes to Template:Str index/getchar. Do they serve some purpose? I'm pretty sure they've broken other templates which were being used to italicize titles in infoboxes. Do you mind if I revert to the previous version, or are your changes needed for something?--Kotniski (talk) 13:57, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The changes are actually used in other templates. However, I'm still not sure as to why you would need this template for infobox ship begin and waht the result you are trying to achieve is. I'll take another look. Thanks.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   283° 23' 59" NET   18:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks, everything seems to be working again now.--Kotniski (talk) 12:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks so much for adjusting my userpage! The birthday thing you did was so cool. I really appreciate it. Have a wonderful day! Sabrina Magers   talk  17:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! I used parser functions to achieve that. It seems like you might be quite interested in magic words and parser functions. If you want, I can explain how they work and how you can use them.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   261° 52' 30" NET   17:27, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely interested! Thank you! Sabrina  Magers   talk  19:54, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly, how familiar are you with magic words and parser functions and which ones do you already understand?  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   203° 47' 30" NET   13:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not at all, but I'll read those pages you linked to. ^^ Sabrina  Magers   talk  16:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, if you have trouble understanding how any of it works, let me know and I'll explain it in more detail for you.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   282° 30' 30" NET   18:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! *hugs* I'll read about it today and tomorrow...I've already found some interesting things. I'll definitely have some questions for you, but I want to see if I can solve them first. Thank you again! Sabrina  Magers   talk  18:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! That's usually the best way to learn these thing. Good luck!  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   284° 49' 15" NET   18:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar
Yay! Another barnstar!  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   288° 29' 0" NET   19:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Help again?
Sorry to keep bothering you, but I was wondering if you knew how to add a link to your guestbook in your signature? If you do, I'd really owe you. Thanks so much! Sabrina Magers   talk  15:44, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I figured it out ^^ Thanks anyway! (You should come sign it now) Sabrina  Magers   TALK  Sign Here!  15:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Datamonitor/Informa
I work for Datamonitor which is a subsidiary of Informa and I personally feel that this company deserves its own article on here. I say this because several other subsidiaries are allowed their own articles but they're generally smaller in size and importance than Datamonitor. e.g. Ovum Ltd.. I would like to start the Datamonitor page but it is protected from being started and I assume that there must be some kind of history here. Should there not be some sort of consistency as to what is allowed to be created and what is not? Ovum Ltd. is actually a subsidiary of Datamonitor and gets its own article? This may all seem a bit petty but as Datamonitor has over 1,000 staff and massive revenues I think it would make sense to have a short entry for it. What do you think? Wikipediatastic (talk) 13:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest you start creating the article here in your userspace and then ask an administrator to move the page there when it is ready. You may also need to watch for a possible conflict of interest. I'd recommend asking another editor to review the article before requesting the move. I'd also recommend asking Chase me ladies for an opinion since they create protected the page. Hope this helps.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   237° 6' 45" NET   15:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * OK I'll do all of that. I don't intend to write anything more than the bare facts I'll leave it to others to expand upon it. I'll have a word with Chase me ladies too. Wikipediatastic (talk) 16:20, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Sound good. Good luck!  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   309° 24' 30" NET   20:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Signature
Hi, I'm curious how you get your signatures to change colors every time, do you do it manually or is it some cool wiki code thing? Derild 49  21  ☼  20:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! My chameleonic signature. I use the switch parser function to change the colour each time I sign. It's quite crafty. It's based on various colour changers I've seen on userpages. Come to think of it, you could use in just about anything that uses colour. I can show you how to use it if you want.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   312° 53' 0" NET   20:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah...yes the coding tricks I just can't understand! No need to try and teach me, I just felt curious! Derild  49  21  ☼  22:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough!  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   340° 59' 0" NET   22:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * iv got to get you to teach me that :P S ophie  ( Talk ) 23:11, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem! :D  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   11° 52' 0" NET   00:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Reply @ 13:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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13:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:Renameuser2...
...isn't stripping CURRENT or NEW from the most important part - the rename button =] Might be best to do the stripping once and pass it to a nested template, but I'll leave that to you to decide. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 15:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)