User talk:Thethirdslayer

Lang. in the Blackpool article
I deleted this statement -- as I did not know what the intention was - perhaps a little rewording so there is not misunderstanding? Removed - 'Members of the gay community welcomed the plans but warned that there were immediate safety concerns that needed addressing in the area which is one of the most deprived in the country.' - I am not sure of the correlation - there might be one and perhaps clarifying this is worth the effort - as is, it could be misinterpreted. BeingObjective (talk) 22:57, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem. It was intended to show the reaction of the community which is outlined in the article cited.
 * "Claremont is one of the most deprived areas of the country and its town centre streets have a high concentration of bars and clubs. In August the ward had 344 reported crimes, compared to 269 in the neighbouring Talbot Ward and 72 in neighbouring Warbreck. Of these 143 were violent and sexual offences and 87 were anti-social behaviour. Some 182 of them were concentrated in the area earmarked for a village quarter."
 * Perhaps to say : '' Members of the gay community welcomed the plans but warned that there were immediate safety concerns that needed addressing in the area where 182 crimes were reported in August 2023." Thethirdslayer (talk) 23:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ermm - I just think someone is going to state poor areas are hostile to the gay community - perhaps not - the sentence just implies this - BeingObjective (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * my suggestion, to reword it as below doesn't imply a correlation between deprivation and the treatment of the gay community. It's not necessarily homophobic crime either. But leave it out if you prefer.
 * '' Members of the gay community welcomed the plans but warned that there were immediate safety concerns that needed addressing in the area where 182 crimes were reported in August 2023." Thethirdslayer (talk) 23:12, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Your call - it links to the article anyhow -- I was more interested in making the whole article leaner and more concise - the sentence just caught my eye - many thanks. BeingObjective (talk) 23:15, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It's fine. I'll leave it out. Although the LGBTQ+ section it's actually quite brief considering its importance in Blackpool. I wonder if you'd like to collaborate on the Blackpool project currently underway on this page? There are a few areas that need work. Thethirdslayer (talk) 23:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Absolutely - I noted the edits ongoing. Cheers... BeingObjective (talk) 23:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There's more about the project here: https://www.blackpoolsocial.club/40362-blackpool-social-club-hosts-two-month-wikithon/ Thanks for the interest. Thethirdslayer (talk) 23:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Love the bold Blackpool edits.
It is good to see another taking efforts to cull out sections of this ramble.

I took a lot of heat from one user as I deleted out a lot of the noise - but I think the article is much improved.

I know there is guidance on how such articles should be structured, but I'd rather see less text dedicated to all of the 'nuggets of history' and more to the living town - I know the place has problems, my father lived there and I often visited as a younger adult. As a kid I have pleasant memories of the place - hence my vague interests.

Regards. Dr. BeingObjective (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The ongoing Connected Heritage project on this page has been bold and the page has changed so much in the past 2 months or so. I appreciate your input however there are a few areas that our wikimdians have worked on that have been lost to deep cuts – in demographics, governance, economy, regeneration and art.
 * It's been incredibly disheartening for a community who are new to wiki and attempting to improve this page to see work that took a lot of thought, effort and energy thrown in the bin. With this music section I completely rewrote it, as we have done with many sections, rather than just cut it. I think large edits like this need very careful consideration and it's one that was first suggested on the talk page on 13th October - so ample time given to allow other wikimedians to comment.
 * I feel the structure of the page is nearly there now and when the new Culture of Blackpool page is made (currently in progress) we'll be able to reduce what's on this main page. The other sections I mentioned need a careful look however. Would you consider restoring some of your cuts and improving them instead? Thethirdslayer (talk) 14:45, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Understood - in my bold deletes, I did consider this - and broadly hope I did not cull too much - I do understand your point.
 * I tended to target the intro areas, not sure that I deleted anything from the area of your concern - apologies of I did.
 * BeingObjective (talk) 15:01, 22 November 2023 (UTC)