User talk:ThinkStraighter

MGTOW Biased towards the Left
Hello there,

I'm concerned that the article offers one side of criticism of the movement. For example, nowhere are the opinions of people who constructively criticize the movement, such as Jordan Peterson, among others such as 4Chan, NoFap, and other web-based communities. That doesn't mean they have to completely agree with the movement, but I find an air of condescending motifs, especially from the female commentator (that I forget the name of but starts with an L) which is problematic in offering an unbiased, complete picture of the movement. I'm a little appalled by it too, since there are certainly merits to the movement, and including such elements that have been praised and are continued to be honored by communities around the world such as Stoicism, independency and celibacy.

To be honest, it is hard for men to find themselves in the world when their roles are reversed and they are forced to sit in an office all day, pleasing their bosses. In the twentieth century, men live in a world that largely emasculates them and men trying to figure out their life purpose without "airing grievances" is hard. These are not grievances, as MGTOW opposes big government — they do not accept an authority to issue their grievances too — these are opinions of the movement and express the deep-felt sorrow of many men that find themselves lost and without a purpose in the world. It can be equated, though in different extents, to women's struggle to be recognized as equal to men — they too were largely devoid of freedom where they could find their true purpose. The same thing is occurring to modern men, and nobody is guiding them or holding their hand. If you really think about it, from Kindergarten, men are restrained physically and emotionally and thus emasculated.

These are some of the merits of MGTOW that neutral thinkers such as Jordan Peterson (and he is neutral, if you really see that he does not discriminate against people based on race, gender, or other metrics that white supremacists or Nazis, absolutely did and do). I understand that no article is perfect, but we can certainly make Wikipedia less left-intellectual and more of a fact-holding database that captures both halves of the spectrum, not just one.

Thank you.


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