User talk:ThirdWardHou

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March 2021
Your recent editing history at Third Ward, Houston shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.''Your additions are hard to understand, as you have already added this content to the article. Trying to add duplicate material is not helpful, so I hope you will cease your attempts and move to more constructive endeavors. Thanks, &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk)'' 19:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought these pages were an open forum. My apologies. I initially put the reference to the article up high. It was removed.
 * Then I put it lower, and it was removed. Some I'm unclear in your saying that I've "already" added the info. I don't see any reference to this article. So how can the article, "At Home in Third Ward: An Appreciation of the 'Tre and its People," which appeared in the Houston Chronicle in December 27, 2020 and written by a Third Ward native, be added to this page? It gives a wonderful insight into the area, some history and people who are instrumental in Third Ward's fabric. That's all I was trying to do. People who search for Third Ward will want know this info as well. It is the Chronicle's most recent big feature on Third Ward and it should be included. Thank you. ThirdWardHou (talk) 03:41, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, no, it's not an open forum; it's an encyclopedia. The information you have tried to add 4 times now is there at the end of the Arts and culture section. It's written in the form appropriate to Wikipedia, without an inline external link, but with the link to your article in the reference citation.
 * Incidentally, in case this applies, adding links to one's own work (say, as an author or a reporter) is quite problematic, as it would lead to questions about the adding editor's judgment and constitutes an apparent conflict of interest. I'm hoping that's not the case here, but I thought I might point out a possible difficulty.
 * You can rest assured, though, that the information you described as important above is included in the article, and has been available to interested readers since December 28. Regards,&mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. In the future, how do we submit information for consideration for the Third Ward page, or any page? It's a bit confusing since it seems anyone can make changes on Wikipedia. ThirdWardHou (talk) 21:16, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, how do we make additions to Riverside Terrace page, as well? There were a number of noted African Americans who lived in the area that should be on the Riverside Terrace page, as well, including Beyonce and Solange Knowles, who grew up in the Parkwood area of Riverside Terrace. Beyonce's company, Parkwood Entertainment, is named for the park. We had links to verify their residency. Who makes the call on what goes on the pages and how can we get factual additions. ThirdWardHou (talk) 01:25, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * For most pages, we don't have to submit information; on those pages without exceptional protection we simply edit the article with our desired changes. If others object, they may revert the changes (see, for example, WP:BRD) or simply start a discussion on the article's talk page or the contributing user's Talk (as I have done here). With a few special exceptions, anyone can make changes on Wikipedia. The challenge is that we are all different people, with different backgrounds, abilities, viewpoints, etc., and not everything that can get added to Wikipedia should be. We decide together, per consensus, what Wikipedia should be.
 * The Riverside Terrace page is no different. As with Third Ward, Houston, all editions should be verifiable via reliable third-party sources, which have been cited as references (not as in-line links, the way you were doing). The sources you added for the Knowles sisters, for example, did not say Beyoncé ever lived in Riverside Terrace (and I don't remember seeing that it mentioned Solange at all), so their addition seemed unverifiable, and I removed them (and others, some for the same reason). If you have good sources that make their residency clear, however, please do add them.
 * Have you read about Wikipedia? That "Contributing" section might be helpful, and at the top also links to a more detailed section about the basics of contributing, which may help you as you try to find your place in the project. I hope you like it here, despite the multitude of policies and guidelines. Just try to remain calm when someone corrects you or points you to some unknown rule. Happy editing, &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I will read that page. So links have to refer back to a Wikipedia page? Here are links to support that Beyonce and Solange's childhood home was in Riverside Terrace in Third Ward including the Parkwood Entertainment Wikipedia page says she grew up on Parkwood, which is in Riverside Terrace:

http://swamplot.com/beyonces-early-childhood-home-could-be-yours-for-500k/2018-08-01/

https://www.khou.com/gallery/features/photos-beyonces-childhood-home-for-sale-in-houston/285-579795504

https://www.chron.com/local/history/culture-scene/article/A-homegrown-superstar-Beyonc-has-Houston-in-10421385.php

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/inside-beyonces-childhood-home-in-the-third-ward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkwood_Entertainment ThirdWardHou (talk) 20:28, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

We are trying to make sure the history and story of this community is accurate. Thank you. ThirdWardHou (talk) 20:28, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you mean by, as reference citations certainly should not point to a Wikipedia page.
 * In any case, I have added Beyoncé and Solange to both the Third Ward and Riverside Terrace articles, as some of the references you provide above were quite suitable for use. Thanks! &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 01:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)