User talk:Thirdaccount

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Your contributed article, Basics of Ozone Science
Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Basics of Ozone Science. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - ozone layer. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will to continue helping improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at ozone layer - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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Image tagging for File:CFCeffectOzone.png
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Copyright problems with Approaches to Capacity Building
Hello. Concerning your contribution, Approaches to Capacity Building, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.unep.fr/ozonaction/topics/capacity.htm. As a copyright violation, Approaches to Capacity Building appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Approaches to Capacity Building has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:


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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. Syrthiss (talk) 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Editing this page
I have taken the text from the UNEP website, I work for UNEP and am setting up a wikipedia information page. The text that I have used is going to be edited shortly. Please do not delete the page until this is done. This is just a template at the moment and I am working on it.(Thirdaccount (talk) 11:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC))

Copyright problems with OzonAction: CFCs effect on Stratoshperic Ozone
Hello. Concerning your contribution, OzonAction: CFCs effect on Stratoshperic Ozone, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.worldtradereview.com/news.asp?pType=N&iType=A&iID=115&siD=20&nID=22954. As a copyright violation, OzonAction: CFCs effect on Stratoshperic Ozone appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. OzonAction: CFCs effect on Stratoshperic Ozone has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:


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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. Syrthiss (talk) 11:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Contact now
Do you have an email address or phone number where I can get in touch with you regarding these last two changes? This is an urgent matter, please get back to me asap! (Thirdaccount (talk) 11:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC))


 * You can discuss whatever you wish to discuss by editing here. While you technically *can* contact me through the 'email this user' link in the toolbox on my User:Syrthiss page, I'd prefer to keep content discussions in visible areas on Wikipedia.  What is the urgency?  If either of the above pages is deleted by another administrator, and you can prove that you are the owner of the text, they are easily restored. Syrthiss (talk) 11:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The urgency is that we are trying to have this page ready as a part of the Ozone day Celebration Presentations, which is on the 16th, day after tomorrow. I am currently editting the text for the Approaches to Capacity Building Page, so if you can remove the deletion tag while I edit that would be much appreciated. I know the pages can be recovered, but as I am working under a deadline, I do not want to have to contact an admin to get it restored just in case the page is removed before Ozone Day. Moreover, I checked the link you provided for the second article, which talks about Pakistan and the WTO. I can provide you the document from which this text was taken in .pdf format. The article you quoted seems to have violated the copyright by using United Nations Materials and not vice versa. Please get back to me as soon as possible.(Thirdaccount (talk) 12:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC))


 * I have asked one of the other administrators who handles copyright issues to take a look here. Please feel free to continue working on the pages in the meantime, but please be advised that duplicating topics that already exist and are well-covered on wikipedia and using wikipedia for promotion are both reasons by which the pages could be deleted as well.  Regards, Syrthiss (talk) 12:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Could you also ask the admin to contact me before taking any actions. As I have mentioned, this is a very strict deadline we are trying to meet. any help would be much appreciated! Thanks for your time and understanding. I understand the case for duplication on the Ozone layer page, worse case I will just link it to the existing Ozone Layer page on wiki. As for the other page, I am editting it as we speak, so please bear with me.(Thirdaccount (talk) 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC))
 * There is absolutely no urgency. Why must these pages be ready for some event? They are on your website - that is quite sufficient. Your request smacks of attempting to use Wikipedia as a free host. In any case we would greatly prefer it if you would wait until someone with no COI thinks the organisation is notable and writes about it. &mdash; RHaworth 17:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

How to verify copyright permission for articles
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If you decide you don't wish to release the material into public domain or under the terms of CC-BY-SA and GFDL, you are welcome to rewrite the text from scratch. Each article that has been blanked now links to a "temporary" page where this can be done. As long as the material is otherwise compliant with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, it will be used to replace the previous contents. Please leave a note at the article's talk page, or here, saying you have done so.

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Since time is of the essence here, I am watching your talk page. If you have any questions, you may leave them here. If I can explain any of this further or assist you in this matter, please let me know.

Thank you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your quick reply. Since the matter is just textual content, which I had intially used to create a template for this page, this is easily solved, I am in the process of rewording the text as we speak. Given this if you could remove the notice on the page that would be great. If you can see, the first section has already been reworded. please get back to me as soon as possible. Regards (Thirdaccount (talk) 12:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC))


 * Please put your rewrites in the temporary spaces linked from the article's face. For example, OzonAction: CFCs effect on Stratoshperic Ozone links to . As soon as you have rewritten them completely, I can replace the existing articles with them. I'm afraid that we cannot even temporarily publish copyrighted content without verification of permission. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:35, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * As you can see I have already re-linked the CFCs effect page to the Ozone layer page that already exists on wiki. So for that page there should be no further issues. for the Approaches to capacity building page I am re writing it at the moment. I do not fully understand where to put this text (the article face?) could you please explain and confirm the resolution of the other page?(Thirdaccount (talk) 12:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC))

I will look at that immediately. Meanwhile, I'm afraid that OzonAction Programme is also unusable, though I gather that content was added by a colleague and not you. It has been blanked pending verification of permission or rewrite. If it is rewritten, it should be rewritten here. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:46, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Please immediately stop creating new articles. I have blanked your most recent creation as it has the same problems the others have. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * This is getting ridiculous! DO you have a phone number where our offices can contact you?(Thirdaccount (talk) 12:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC))


 * You cannot verify permission by phone, but must do it either at the site or through e-mail or mail. I have given you the instructions above for doing so. That said, if you wish to contact the Wikimedia Foundation, see Contact us. Your organization has chosen to copyright its content: © UNEP DTIE 2007. I'm afraid there's nothing we can do about that; unless you do something about it, we cannot host this content. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * OzonAction on HCFC's is also blanked pending a complete rewrite or permission, as it is taken from . --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Update regarding copyright concern
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Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Image tagging for File:Organisationalchart.png
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