User talk:This, that and the other/Archive 4

Template editor
Hi, I saw that you just received the protected template editor userright. Are there any full protected templates that you'd like to edit? Let me know and I'll downgrade the protection so you can do so. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 15:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment
As you previously  participated in  related discussions you  are invited to comment  at the discussion  at  WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC for AfC reviewer permission criteria. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:07, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Chalcogen
Color me confused, but what exactly happened here?--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:08, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry about that! I must have been editing an old revision without realising it. Thanks for catching and reverting. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:15, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh no worries. But I'm still interested in whether what you intended to actually do actually can still be done.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No need, it was an error in the old version that has long since been fixed. — This, that and the other (talk)  07:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

New RFC on draft namespace
Hello,

As one of the participants in the previous related discussion, you are requested to comment on the RFC on creating a new Draft namespace at the Village Pump.

Thank you, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 19:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Image page sandbox.png
Thank you for uploading File:Image page sandbox.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. &mdash; rybec   23:15, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

tw
can you check https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle/pull/190 to see if I'm about to fnuck things up again? → Aza Toth 23:59, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Request for change to Db-afc-notice
See Template talk:Db-afc-notice. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:03, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle bugs
Hello, |, I'm here to pester you with some more bugs about Twinkle.

First, I'd like to add some text to A1 and A3, perhaps as small text or part of the tooltip over the question mark; the text would suggest, according to CSD for A1 and A3, to leave at least 10 minutes after article creation (e.g. "Please wait 10 minutes after creation before tagging.")

Second is that Twinkle breaks templates whenever it places Tfm, Tfm/dated, or similar, as seen.

If you have the time can you fix these? Thanks, TeleComNasSprVen (talk &bull; contribs) 20:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Normally TFD/TFM templates shouldn't be noincluded. This should only be done for substituted templates, or very common templates where the TFD/TFM notice on articles would be disruptive. As I think you just found out for yourself, Twinkle does offer the option to add noinclude tags if needed.
 * As for the other one, I don't see why that couldn't be done. — This, that and the other (talk) 02:11, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Stardust Promotion
 Reply  - TTATO, I will take your comments about "Template:Stardust Promotion" under advisement. I relisted the TfD, because it seemed that the discussion was still underway, and not a disagreement that could likely not be resolved. If I felt that the conversation was a dead end, I would have let it go to "No Consensus". I have seen quite a few discussions with only one or two replies dispositioned and not relisted, and I have also seen XfDs with no comments after only one relist deleted, which should never be the case. I will not, however, relist a discussion more than twice. The thing is, if the conclusion is not obvious, the XfD should probably be relisted. --Jax 0677 (talk) 06:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, Jax. It's reassuring to see that you have thought out your approach to relisting, and indeed I think most of your relists are well-judged and useful, in order to help keep the wheels turning at TFD. However, as I said at the TFD, I really feel that non-admins should only handle the more obvious relists, in the spirit of WP:NAC. That is only my personal opinion, of course, and you are welcome to continue acting as you see fit. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:38, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Clickable button 2
As mentioned on the talk page by another editor, there seems to be something wrong with Template:Clickable button 2, as seen here and here through Template:Header navbar community. I'm not experienced enough to understand what's happening with the code exactly, but I think it's the result of your edit. Hopefully you could shed some light on the situation. Thanks. Stj6 (talk) 03:51, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not a result of my change, but of a change made by the powers-that-be that means that the jQuery UI framework is no longer served up to every user on every page visit. The template will look and work OK if you enable, say, Twinkle in your gadgets (since Twinkle uses jQuery UI). For users without jQuery UI, there is obviously some brokenness in the appearance.
 * I don't know what to do about this: when I found out about this problem, I just put it in my too-hard basket and forgot about it. If you can think of a solution, you're welcome to implement it. Unfortunately, the solution is not just to revert my edit: then things will break for those who do have jQuery UI. — This, that and the other (talk) 03:56, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, that makes sense. I probably should have done some more digging before assuming it was your edit that broke it. Thanks again. Stj6 (talk) 04:03, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, it's fairly obscure, I forgive you :) — This, that and the other (talk) 04:06, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Message in reply to Dishevelled
I agree that Dishevelled has other meanings; but so do a huge number of other Domain-names. Where appropriate disambiguation links have been inserted at the head of articles, but we do not need a dictionary definition of the word either at this position in this article or at all - it is unnecessary information, I should have thought.

thanksWeigelaPen (talk) 09:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

If wikipedia is a dictionary, then wouldn't it be better to have a proper disambiguation page such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S4, rather than a box above the image infobox? so that people can go directly to wikionary not a wikipedia article.

I take your point in principle, but I wouldn't search on Wikipedia for a dictionary definition of a word.

May we close this now, if you were to add the wikionary message after the infobox.

thanksWeigelaPen (talk) 14:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of multiple templates for deletion
Good morning kind sir, I read at Templates for discussion that your bot can nominate multiple templates for deletion at once. Well, Template:Muslim scholars is found only in one article, is a huge POV magnet and due to the nature of the topic that could never change. The user who created it has not edited for nearly six years so I'm sure he's retired. He also created Template:Muslim scholars-01 and Template:Muslim scholars-02, which both look unfinished and likely will not ever be finished, considering that he created them eight years ago. Can you help me nominate all of them for deletion? MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:01, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello and thanks for your enquiry. I prefer to use TTObot only for very large nominations (say, 20 or more templates at once), as it takes some time to get it working. In your case, it would be quicker and easier to carry out the nomination manually. The TFD instructions provide details on how to manually bundle several templates in the one deletion nomination - see the lines that begin with Multiple templates:, and then it is just a matter of copying and pasting the relevant code (with the required modifications). I think that is a better option for both of us.
 * If you ever find yourself needing to nominate large volumes of templates at once, please don't hesitate to contact me. — This, that and the other (talk) 09:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I am sort of having a problem now. I added the discussion to Templates for discussion/Log/2014 January 23 as the instructions said but that page is still blank. My edit shows up in the page's history, but I can't see it. Do you know how to fix this? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:45, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The TFD templates were enclosed in a  comment, meaning they were hidden from view. I have repaired it for you. — This, that and the other (talk)  05:07, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey man, thanks a lot for the help! MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:11, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Palestinian territory development
Template:Palestinian territory development has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page..GreyShark (dibra) 17:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

FYI
A proposal has been made to  create  a Live Feed to  enhance the processing  of Articles for Creation and Drafts. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC to create a 'Special:NewDraftsFeed' system. Your comments are welcome. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

110155
Because I don't have an account in Gerrit, I'm leaving an message here.

It's better to add Alias /sr /usr/local/apache/common/docroot/wikivoyage.org/w/index.php and also sr-ec, sr-el, so that Serbian Wikivoyage community don't need to open a new bug when Serbian Wikivoyage is created.--GZWDer (talk) 04:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't agree. I think that should be done in a separate change. When the bug is filed in Bugzilla asking for srwikivoyage to be opened (this occurs after the conclusion of the request on Meta, and is usually filed by MF-Warburg), please consider making a note there to remind the developers that the Apache configuration needs to be done. — This, that and the other (talk) 08:51, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Redirects listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address one or more redirects you have created. You might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! A gift from fellow Wikipedians.
You have been selected to receive a merchandise giveaway. We last contacted you on 2/19/2014. Please send us a message if you would like to claim your shirt. --JMatthews (WMF) (talk) 06:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Juli. I would indeed like to claim it, but for various reasons it may be some time until I can do so. Please let me know if there is a deadline. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * There's no deadline, This, that and the other. Just contact us when you're ready. Thanks! --JMatthews (WMF) (talk) 06:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Welcome-delete
Hello TTATO, Today, while browsing around the pages of my editing past, I stumbled upon an old message relating to a template of mine that I posted and never bothered to check on. After reading your feedback, I redesigned the template in my sandbox to remove the "mountain of information" and make it look more like the current problem user templates. Please re-review the template and post your thoughts about Twinkle inclusion on my talk page. If you think it is worthy of inclusion, I will replace the old template with the version in my sandbox. Thanks, Passengerpigeon (talk) 05:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi . I really like your proposed version; it fits in nicely with the other problem user welcome templates. I suggest you go ahead and change over the old template - it doesn't seem like anyone would mind if you just went ahead and BOLDly made the change. Once done, we can drop it into Twinkle. Thanks, — This, that and the other (talk) 09:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. Passengerpigeon (talk) 10:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:This, that and the other/Speedy tag sandbox2
Hello This, that and the other. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:This, that and the other/Speedy tag sandbox2, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Page cannot be deleted. Please see WP:NYANCAT (♪♫ nyan, nyan, nyan ♫ nyan, nyan, nyan ♫, nyan, nyan, nyan, nyan-nyan, nyan-nyan ♪♫).'''  Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 11:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

List of templates
Just wondering if there is a current list of templates installed in Twinkle (without scanning through all the .js pages) I've been updating (ie.. links, adding twinkle standard installation to /doc pages etc..) templates as I come across them, I'd like to go through all templates used, and was hoping a list is available. Mlpearc ( open channel ) 16:44, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, there's User:This, that and the other/warnings, and User:This, that and the other/sandbox/multiple issues (which transcludes all article maintenance tags, except for three mentioned at the end). There are no other lists that I know of; if you end up creating some, please let me know, as I would love to have access to them. I have found that the easiest way to create these lists is to copy the relevant section of the JavaScript file and run some regular expression find/replace operations over it, but that admittedly isn't everybody's idea of speeding up the process. — This, that and the other (talk) 11:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanx for your response. I didn't think of the find/replace trick . I'll see what I can do about creating a comprehensive list. Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 16:53, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Multiple templates for deletion
WP:TFD says you would be able to add the deletion templates for a large group of redundant templates? would be what needed to be added, with it being added to all the pages in Category:2014 FIFA World Cup match templates. They're not used on any articles, as I basically created them without going to a discussion anywhere first. I'll watchlist your page, for if you've got any more questions. Thanks! -  97rob  ( talk ) 21:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi . If you created them all, and they're all unused, they can all be tagged for speedy deletion under CSD G7. I can do that for you if you would like. — This, that and the other (talk) 01:45, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if you could do that itd be great, thanks! -  97rob  ( talk ) 14:11, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

FtCG feature request
Hi TTTO, thanks for the awesome tool you wrote! I was hoping you would consider adding a feature to FtCG to copy all versions of a file over. Currently, the only way I see to do this is to select each version in turn, and ignore warnings after the first one. It would be nice if there was an automated way to do this, for example a check box saying "Copy all versions". Best regards, Storkk (talk) 15:23, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not replying, I have been very busy lately. This has been requested before at WT:FTCG. I suppose this is needed to fully comply with the clause in WP:F8 relating to old revisions, which I fundamentally disagree with for a number of reasons. But my disagreement won't stop me eventually implementing such a feature into FtCG, although I may not have time in the immediate future. The month of July is looking good for getting my teeth into some coding, so you might see something then.
 * I hope you enjoy using FtCG; if you have any more feedback please don't hesitate to let me know. — This, that and the other (talk) 11:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, and thanks again for the great tool! Out of curiosity, and when you have some time, would you mind elaborating on your disagreement with WP:F8? I have seen files where I don't think that each version needs to come over, but I have also seen files where each revision (certainly, IMO) should, for example a licensed file that has been edited by another editor for color balance or dust spots or whatever. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 14:12, 24 June 2014 (UTC)