User talk:ThomasPark02

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Please stop making disruptive edits. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Ebonelm (talk) 08:47, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. This is your final warning before you will be reported to the administrators. Wikipedia is not a place for you to 'promote' photographs that you have taken. Ebonelm (talk) 14:11, 17 October 2016 (UTC) You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. DrKay (talk) 15:24, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but if you see the reverting of your edits as "disrespecting" you, then you really don't understand the way we work here. Anyone has the right to revert any change you make, whether or not you personally think they are right, and the onus is then on you to seek consensus if you want to make the change again - and if you see the reverting of any of your changes as disrespect, then Wikipedia might not be an appropriate environment for you. I urge you to re-examine my recommendations and the policies to which I linked and to consider agreeing to my suggested changes in your approach. Just saying "I will highly respect the Wikipedia spirit at further edits" is unlikely to be sufficient - I expect the next reviewing admin would want to see specific commitments to specific behavioural changes. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:38, 26 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Boing! said Zebedee, I appealed to users like Ebonelm, but they just continuously said I make some vandalism edits and just ignore my words. That's why I am frustrated, and keep apologising yo users like you. Now I am having a headache and having pills because of this problem. My acquaintances and some people endorsed me on editing Wikipedia. Images like what I inserted (Now it is gone) for Gapyeong Canada Monument, I actually visited that place and took photos and uploaded on Wikipedia. I know that users can revert inappropriate edits, but the problem is that they are reverting good edits like Gapyeong Canada Monument, Ed Miliband, and Martin O'Malley. I believe that users like you and Ebonelm should check edits like Oh Joon or Nick Clegg and trust me, not just reverting good edits.
 * No, other editors can not only revert edits that *you* think are inappropriate - they can revert just about any edit regardless of what you think of it. It is then up to you to seek consensus to put it back. You talk about "reverting good edits like Gapyeong Canada Monument, Ed Miliband, and Martin O'Malley", but you have not made any edits to those articles from this account. You also ask me to check Oh Joon and Nick Clegg, but I repeat that because you have made good contributions in some articles does not mean we can just trust you that all of your other edits are good too and forbid others from reverting you. It simply does not work like that. If you want to edit here, you must abide by Wikipedia's approach of collaboration, discussion and consensus. You say you "appealed to users like Ebonelm", so a good start would be for you to show us where that discussion is - please give us a link to it. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Boing! said Zebedee, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ebonelm#The_Cenotaph_.28Hong_Kong.29 Is the link of my appeal to Ebonelm. Another appeal is also there with the same title, but other location on the talk page. I didn't appeal other articles to Ebonelm because I was too anxious that I might get mentally stressed out because of Ebonelm.
 * What you did there was change the photo to a new one, that change was reverted, and you then engaged in edit warring while logged out from a number of different IPs. You then simply instructed Ebonelm that you were right and made an accusation that Ebonelm's reverts were disruptive, while logged out from your blocked account, and you continued the edit war. That *does not* constitute discussion and consensus-seeking, and an editor has every right to refuse to engage with a block-evading sock puppet. Your behaviour on that article and Ebonelm's talk page was unacceptable. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:30, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Boing! said Zebedee I could appeal to Ebonelm by using IP addresses because I was already blocked to edit, so that's why I appealed to him twice and continued the edit war. The reason I mentioned 'disrespecting' is because Ebonelm ignored my second appeal which was really heartbreaking and frustration to me. After the second appeal ignore by Ebonelm, I decided to just revert edit after somebody does an inappropriate edit to an article.
 * Yes, but when blocked you *should not* have been making any edits logged out at all, the only thing you should have been doing was requesting unblock from your account. What you should have done was engage in discussion *before* you got yourself blocked. It is not disrespecting to ignore block-evading edits and comments, it is perfectly proper. All you are doing here is repeating the explanation of the things you did wrong and telling us why you did them, with no apparent understanding of why your behaviour was wrong. What you need to do is be specific about what you did wrong which led to the block and how you would change your approach if unblocked - for example, explain how you should have approached your dispute on The Cenotaph (Hong Kong). Anyway, I think I've given you all the help I can, and if you still don't understand then I really don't think I can explain any more clearly. So I'll leave it to the next reviewing admin now. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Boing! said Zebedee Thank you for continuous replies I really appreciate it and thank you for the advice that you gave it to me.


 * @ ThomasPark02's first four edits all disruptive again. Changing the order of the candidates in the Richmond, and Seaford and Sleaford and North Hykeham by-elections from alphabetical order as is consensus (see here and here), inserting distance shots into the Martin O'Malley infobox despite being expressely warned not to do this (see here) and reinstating his own lower quality images into Gapyeong Canada Monument (see here). Clearly ThomasPark02 has learnt nothing from the warnings he has been given! Ebonelm (talk) 12:53, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I've come across ThomasPark02's edit-warring on my watchlist a few times (although he's usually been reverted/reported by other users before I've intervened), which led me to his sockpuppet investigation page. Based on some of his responses, he's at best very incompetent and at worst simply trolling, and I would lean towards the latter. I don't think other editors should have to continually waste their time on his behaviour, so I would suggest some sort of ban is in order.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  13:00, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


 * @Ebonelm, I am sick and tired about your disturbing messages. My edits to candidates in the Richmond, and Seaford and Sleaford and North Hykeham by-elections are changed by parties which has more seats in the parliament, so readers can notice how famous they are and future editor can type in votes and percentage more easily. My edit to Martin O'Malley was made because the image was too old and low quality, so I made a change. For Gapyeong Canada Monument, I actually visited the monument and took images and uploaded on Wikimedia Commons. These image changes were change from low quality and old photos to new ones. For The Cenotaph (Hong Kong), I left a message on talk page, so please review.

@ ThomasPark02 has done it again. On declared monuments of Hong Kong he has once again tried to reinstate an image which is the reason why he was blocked and opened a number of sockpuppet accounts in the first place. Here he has tried to be extra sneaky by making the edit, undoing it, and then undoing it again to reinstate his first edit. See (1, 2, 3). Not to mention a number of other contentious edits to pages such as Edward Heath where he has been warned not to try and unilaterally change images before. ThomasPark02 is just mucking about trying to disrupt Wikipedia. WP:GOODFAITH can no longer be assumed. Ebonelm (talk) 16:31, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It's also worth noting this recent edit in which he made another disingenuous "apology" and claimed he would stop edit-warring, which was followed shortly after by the edits noted above. I think it's pretty clear at this point that he's just here to play games.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  16:37, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for edit warring. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:44, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry it has come to this, because I had thought that you understood the problems and were going to adjust your behaviour and seek consensus when your changes were reverted (and the discussion you started at Talk:The Cenotaph (Hong Kong) made me feel optimistic). Unfortunately, you have continued to edit war to put your own photographs into Wikipedia articles, despite lengthy and multiple attempts to get you to understand that that is not a permitted approach to editing. I have no doubt of your good will and I'm sure you only want to improve our articles, but you cannot be allowed to continue ignoring Wikipedia's consensus-based approach to disputes while repeatedly trying to force in your desired changes. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:51, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


 * You made this image change on Oct 17, which was reverted. Then, after all the warnings above and a block for your edit warring over images, plus explanations of why you must seek consensus and not edit war, and after your block was lifted on your promise that you would change your behaviour, you made the same image change again on 27 November (yesterday) without first gaining consensus. You did start a discussion on the talk page, but just starting a discussion is not sufficient to justify re-making your disputed change - you must wait for consensus. Despite all that, I'd like to see you unblocked and return to editing, and I had already planned some conditions under which I would unblock you myself - but I won't even consider it while you are making attacks on other editors in your unblock request, and I doubt anyone else will either. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:16, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

It's not that anybody hates you, it's that you are blatantly and repeatedly breaking some of Wikipedia's core rules. And you really do not seem to understand what you should be doing here. You should not be arguing about the images here on this talk page. You have been told multiple times that the way to resolve disagreements about images is on the talk pages of the relevant article pages and await consensus. Here, you should only be addressing the behaviour that led to your block, not the images themselves. And that behaviour has been to edit war over your preferred images and over other changes, even after having had one block lifted. In addition, you have been creating obvious sock puppets as shown at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/ThomasPark02, and using those to continue with your disputed changes. That is also something you will need to address if you are to stand any chance of being unblocked. At this point, I think the best you can hope for now would be the WP:STANDARDOFFER, in which you stay away for at least six months with no socking or block evasion, and then make a request that shows you really do understand the problems and convinces a reviewing admin that they will not be repeated. There's no guarantee you will be unblocked even then, but I think it really is your only realistic chance. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:29, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Display name 99 (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2016 (UTC) You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:17, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * For continuing your battleground and edit warring approach as soon as you were unblocked, I could have instantly blocked you again. I will give you one last chance, but if I see one more example of edit warring I will re-impose your block. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hi ThomasPark02. I noticed that you have been making many edits to infoboxes recently which have not been constructive. Your edits to Gary Johnson for example removed an image on which there was an established (and hard fought) consensus, changing images of presidential candidates is nearly always controversial and should be dealt with at the talk page. Similarly your edit to David Cameron removed a consensus image, on Wikipedia we tend to use official images if possible, and the one you replaced it with was low quality and gave undue weight to his resignation. Furthermore, your edit to William Hague removed a good quality headshot and replaced it with a wide-angle shot in which made it barely possible to see his face which is not acceptable for a main infobox image. Please stop making these edits they go against established consensus. Some of your edits, such as the one you made to Nick Clegg have been positive introducing a photo of Clegg during his time of office, though it is worth noting that it was still nearly reverted as it was a lower quality image, the only reason it was kept was because the other one was 7 years out of date. Ebonelm (talk) 12:54, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

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