User talk:Thonos

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 * Why is it not acceptable?--Thonos (talk) 22:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Unreffed and not in the appropriate tone for an encyclopedia. -- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Rectal pain, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted (undone) by ClueBot NG.
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 * ClueBot NG produces very few false positives, but it does happen. If you believe the change you made should not have been detected as unconstructive, please read about it, [ report it here], remove this warning from your talk page, and then make the edit again.
 * The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Rectal pain was changed by Thonos (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.87982 on 2011-05-14T22:26:22+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 22:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Frank Ellis (Leeds University lecturer)


The article Frank Ellis (Leeds University lecturer) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * "If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them" (WP:BLP1E).

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Guoguo12 --Talk--  16:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistent vandalism. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. ... disco spinster   talk  17:02, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

What is this?

 * Since I wrote the above, my judgement has been questioned as you added "brutal anal sex" three times to the article on rectal pain. I have given you the benefit of the doubt there, and assumed that you were editing in good faith, even though the edits did not seem helpful. However, I should warn you that such benefit of the doubt may be less likely if any similar editing occurs. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:55, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It wasn't vandalism, you can google it that brutal anal sex may be one of the causes of rectal pain. It was blocked by a bot and i'll turn it back as soon as I'm unblocked, this time with a source. --Thonos (talk) 16:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:MEDRS must be kept in mind. -- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * No, I really don't think it was vandalism. However, announcing your intention of restoring the edit is not a good idea. Wikipedia works by consensus, discussion, and willingness to accept that one doesn't always get one's way, not by individual editors repeatedly restoring the same edit in an attempt to impose their own opinion. Have a look at Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:07, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for You must discuss this changes rather than edit war them back into place. Also the refs where not compliant with WP:MEDMOS. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Rectal pain
You seem determined to insert a comment in this article about brutal anal sex. I would concede that, as a cause of pain, trauma is a cause in any bodily organ. But several editors feel that tp describe it as you do is not appropriate, and I feel they are correct. Inserting in the article, as a cause of rectal pain, the word "trauma", would, I think, be acceptable. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You have added the text "brutal anal sex" four times to the article on rectal pain. Not a single one of the refs you provided uses the wording "brutal". Not one of the references are compliant with WP:MEDMOS. You have been clearly informed of these requirements above. You stated that immediately after your ban ended you would re add this text. Thus your current ban. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 22:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You didn't tell me how is it possible that the same thing is contained in the article about anal sex mentioned above. Does it mean that there are different standards for the same information? --Thonos (talk) 22:44, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Where does it mention "brutal" Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 23:17, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

None of the references you have given supports the claim that anal sex is a common or major cause of rectal pain. In the absence of reliable sources indicating that this is the case, the claim does not belong in the article. You may also like to see WP:OTHERSTUFF, which is written in the context of arguments used in deletion discussions, but the idea is also relevant in this context. Remember that you were blocked indefinitely, and I decided to give you a second chance by limiting the length of the block. You have now been given another limited block because you repeated again some of the same sort of editing that led to the first block. You did so despite having been advised on the need to avoid edit warring, and having been given a link to the guideline on medical sources. Wikipedia works by cooperation and consensus, and editors who persist in trying to force through their own views are not welcome. I may also remind you that you were given the benefit of the doubt on an edit in which you gratuitously and out of any context gave "nigger" as your edit summary, subsequently claiming that you "did not want anyone to see it publicly", but giving no explanation as to what you did intend. There is a significant risk that, if you continue in this way, you will be blocked indefinitely and stay blocked next time, so if you do wish to continue to contribute here, I strongly recommend editing in cooperation with others, via discussion and, when necessary, compromise. If, on the other hand, you choose to leave, as you have suggested you may, then that is absolutely fine: you are under no obligation to stay. Just two more comments: (1) "This is no edit warring - this is sourced, verifiable information." No, edit warring is repeatedly reverting to the same or approximately the same version, and it does not somehow not count as edit warring because you think you are right. (2) Before making the above unblock request did you follow the advice to read the guide to appealing blocks? If not then I suggest doing so if you ever consider making another unblock request. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:31, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Revert warring on Race and crime
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Note that this article is among those covered by WP:ARBR&I. In particular WP:TE and blanking of sourced content is sanctionable.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 00:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Re your offensive user page
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:21, 3 June 2011 (UTC)