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PubMed
Hi, I see that you just added a non-existing cat. You are not improving this article. I edited it very carefully and I thin k it is you who needs to discuss these drastic chnages that are against policy. There are a lot of things that Wikipedia is not. One of them is that it is not intended to be a users manual for anything, not even PubMed. The huge amount of explanation on how to use Boolean operators and such do not belong here and have to be deleted again. Thanks. --Crusio (talk) 09:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Please discuss these changes on the discussion page of this article. Thank you. PS: I have since removed the non-existent cat (I didn't realize that it no longer existed). --Thorwald (talk) 09:15, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Please let me now whether you intend to comment on the further remarks that I made on the talk page there. Thanks. --Crusio (talk) 09:44, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Debye–Waller factor
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Emilia Clarke
Hi Thorwald, where did you find Emilia's date of birth? Please answer here. Bye! --Maz-El (talk) 14:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I just updated the article and added a reference to her year of birth. The source was here. --Thorwald (talk) 20:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I read that article, it does not say that Emilia was born in 1988, but only that she's 23. Maybe she was born in 1987! --Maz-El (talk) 20:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Good job. Bye. --Maz-El (logged out) 82.61.161.240 (talk) 07:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Nordic vs German electricity use
Hi Thorwald. I have responded to the question you asked at Talk:Wide area synchronous grid.

--David Göthberg (talk) 16:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

BioPHP
Hi! I create an article in portuguese wiki BioPHP (translating your article). I use 5 peer-reviewd links in the article in portuguese. I want to share to you because you can use the references to improve your article in english. Best regards, Ricardo Ferreira de Oliveira (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll look into using some of those. --Thorwald (talk) 18:45, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Belated barnstar...
For the work you put into improving the Kyrgyzstan article last year. It's been a while, but this award didn't exist back then.

Source for Tycho Brahe quotation
Do you recall the source from which you obtained the quotation you added to the article Tycho Brahe with this edit? Until yesterday, a request for a citation had been open for more than two years. All the sources I have been able to find are tertiary sources which post-date the addition of the quotation to Wikipedia, and either cite Wikipedia as their source or provide no source whatever. This also applies to the source which another editor has recently provided but regards&mdash;correctly, in my opinion&mdash;as unsatisfactory. Thank you for any assistance you might be able to give. David Wilson (talk · cont) 14:12, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. I took the quote directly from a book I used to own (I have since donated it to a local library). You can find this quote in just about any book about Tycho. Here is one example. Hope that helps. --Thorwald (talk) 00:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. I didn't see the note for the reference on the Tycho Brahe article. I actually don't agree with that note. Again, this quote by Tycho is found in just about _any_ book relating to Tycho and/or his work. Here is another example. I can go down to my local library and pick up any book on Tycho and find this quote. --Thorwald (talk) 00:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply, and for going to the trouble of looking up other references. I'm sorry I didn't make it clearer that I had in fact already done extensive google, google book, and google scholar searches for material containing the quotation, and so was already aware of both the books you have given links for.  The problem with them, as I noted in my original query, is that they're tertiary sources which provide no information whatever about their own sources for the quotation (although Nardo's book does at least contain a bibliography).   I don't consider such sources reliable for such details, and especially not for details which, as in this case, cannot be found in several of the most authoritative scholarly secondary sources, such as Dreyer's Tycho Brahe,  Thoren's  The Lord of Uraniborg, Christianson's On Tycho's Island, Christianson's Tycho Brahe and Prague or Mosley's Bearing the Heavens.


 * I can confirm from reliable sources&mdash;such as those for which I have just given links&mdash;that the quotation does accurately depict Tycho's attitudes and activities in 1563, and could well be something that he might have said. However, there are very good reasons for doubting that anything like it occurs in what little of his writings have survived from that period.  I very much suspect that if the quotation could be tracked back to a primary origin it will be found to have suffered some distortiion from Chinese whispers, and had an incorrect date assigned to it.  The primary source commonly cited by scholars as documenting Tycho's activities and attitudes during the period in question are his recollections published some 35 years later in Astronomiæ instauratæ mechanica.  Here is a case in point with some extracts translated into English.


 * Can you remember the title of the book you obtained the quotation from, or the name of it's author?  It might provide another source, and that would make it worth my while trying to track down a copy.
 * David Wilson (talk · cont) 17:57, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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Germans
Hi. I found an error in the article (see photo). Copernicus was not a German, he was from Poland. --Top811 my talk —Preceding undated comment added 13:35, 12 May 2012 (UTC).

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 * Don't worry. It was painfully obvious to me (and any half-intelligent person) that it was a fishing attempt. I ignored it. --Thorwald (talk) 19:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * Hello! I am very interested in both contributing/critiquing code and working for the Wikimedia Foundation. I will be contacting the appropriate people via email. Thank you! --Thorwald (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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Logical quotes
The full-sentence quote changes in and don't seem to conform to MOS:LQ (example 1 specifically). —Mrwojo (talk) 19:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe. However, two things: (1) It must be known (i.e., proven in the original reference) that the full stop did, indeed, occur where said quote places it; and (2) In strict logical punctuation, the full stop is always outside of the quotes. --Thorwald (talk) 22:07, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

CRID
Hello User:Thorwald, I think that the two technical specifications "ETSI TS 102 822-2 V1.4.1 (2007-11)" and "ETSI TS 102 822-4 V1.7.1 (2012-12)" should be cited in the "References" section of the CRID article. From my point of view, these two ETSI standards are even more important than RFC 4078 which is only an "informational" RFC. -- 2A00:1398:4:0:1845:B86C:EF41:ECC8 (talk) 19:48, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. See the talk page. --Thorwald (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Help Please
Hello-I need some help please with your edits to the H-antigen group. I left some of my questions on the article talk page-ty24.0.133.234 (talk) 14:37, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I undid it and the self-published link is still there but I added more info. and a news-source link. Let me know if you think that is sufficient please?24.0.133.234 (talk) 14:45, 16 February 2013 (UTC) And the info. that is self-pub. is self published by the group and i put it there as a reference to the controversy not the group so I thought it would be OK to clarify it is not published by myself but by the group and they have been very active on Twitter FB and news, but I did not want to add Twitter as a ref.24.0.133.234 (talk) 14:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)?

OK-so can you give me a better clue? Should I put the "controversy" in with the cultural section? That actually was my 1st instinct, but everything in that category, (so far) looked to be fictional. That is why I started the new section. A news source should be OK for that (cultural) section? (the source that you deleted was a news site unrelated to the person involved with the controversy). I'm just assuming that you're trying to say that sourcing for a science article s/b a medical journal or something scientific within medical article guidelines, so yes I see where it does not fit in except for cultural.24.0.133.234 (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Please use the Talk page of the article in question to continue this discussion. Thank you. --Thorwald (talk) 00:45, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hello. On 14 Jan 2013 at 07:56, you added the following: | birth_name = María Belón Alvárez to the María Belón Infobox here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Bel%C3%B3n That her birth surname was Alvárez (but is now Belón), and that her husband's surname is also Alvárez seems way too much of a coincidence. It also appears when you made the change, her surname was very confused. Can you shed any light on this and can you cite your sources for her birth surname being Alvárez? Thank You. --MarkFilipak (talk) 17:34, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello. I have no idea what her birth name is. My edit was taken from a newspaper article listing it as such. If you have a better source, feel free to change it. Thanks. --Thorwald (talk) 18:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
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No need to apologise for your edit, you did the right thing in clearing up a local inconsistancy. Which exposed the fact that there is a problem with the whole article, which need sorting. You did good. Me, I don't care which format (or spelling) is used.TheLongTone (talk) 14:19, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
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Open vSwitch article
Hello! Regarding on the Open vSwitch article, Oxford/serial comma isn't mandatory by any means, and the sentence structure in this case doesn't require additional commas for clarity. Hope you agree. &mdash; Dsimic (talk &#124; contribs) 21:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I do not agree. The clarification is needed. For an example, in "...including NetFlow, sFlow, SPAN, RSPAN, CLI, LACP and 802.1ag", are "LACP" and "802.1ag" both interfaces, both protocols, or one of the other? The Oxford comma clarifies that they are not necessarily related. A rule-of-thumb on WP (I have been editing over 11 years now) is that the Oxford comma should be used unless there is a really good reason not to use it. --Thorwald (talk) 21:18, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * As a software implementation of a virtual multilayer network switch, Open vSwitch is designed to enable effective network automation through programmatic extensions, while supporting standard management interfaces and protocols, including NetFlow, sFlow, SPAN, RSPAN, CLI, LACP and 802.1ag.
 * It should be obvious to anyone that the list isn't divided into interfaces and protocols, with or without a serial comma. What could be done to clarify things is a slight, though doing that is perhaps totally redundant. &mdash; Dsimic (talk &#124; contribs) 21:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

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Pyrrhichos
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Medici: Masters of Florence
Nice clean up job! Thanks. One certainly learns a lot really fast in this place. Didn't know that about imdb interop. Cool. Also: I'm thinking now that maybe the titles of previous works should be in italics rather than quotes - aren't quotes a holdover from when all we had were typewriters? Fb2ts (talk) 10:12, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I made those changes and added more information. -- Thorwald (talk) 20:45, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Wundebar! I noticed that I'd linked to Lorenzo the Magnificent - instead of The Elder, so fixed that in both places. Fb2ts (talk) 21:35, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Reference errors on 26 December
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April 2017
You're at three reverts. There is nothing to discuss. You made a change and, made it seem like it was nothing more than routine formatting when in essence, it was applying serial commas, which are not used in the rest of the article (save "starring Ryan Gosling, and Harrison Ford reprising his role" due to lack of confusion).'' Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:04, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It is formatting, by definition. There is only one other place in the article that does not use logical punctuation ("...with David Dastmalchian, Hiam Abbass and Lennie James joining in July..."). I missed that one, otherwise I would have made the edit there as well. PS: It is a bit hypocritical of you to accuse me of "edit warring" when you did just as many reverts as I did. And, no. I am not at "three reverts". Only two. As such, I have removed your uncalled for "warning". I have been editing Wikipedia for over 12 years now. I do not need your "warning". --Thorwald (talk) 05:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It is punctuation but definition. So there are four places where it could be applied. One is there to avoid confusion the other three don't need it. Your edit warring is not appropriate. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Nor is your edit warring (again, hypocritical and you have a history of it). Punctuation is formatting, by definition. It is called logical punctuation for a reason (e.g., consider "Alice, Bob and Mary" vs. "Alice, Bob, and Mary" and "John, Mum and Dad" vs. "John, Mum, and Dad". In the first case, are Bob and Mary put forward as a couple, or as a names in a series? The comma clarifies.) --Thorwald (talk) 05:23, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I have a history of reverting people like you. If you insist on being a jerk, go ahead. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:35, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Calling me a "jerk" is not appropriate. This is silly. I have better things to do with my time than to argue over commas. --Thorwald (talk) 05:36, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll assume good faith and comment that you missed " with David Dastmalchian, Hiam Abbass and Lennie James ". So there was only one (unnecessary) serial comma and you added two more. The article now has none. They're not necessary. I have better things than to correct editors who insist that serial commas are somehow better than keeping them out. Cheers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:39, 30 April 2017 (UTC)