User talk:Thoss~enwiki

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Topographic Oceans
Copied from Talk:Tales From Topographic Oceans

Just reverted a huge chunk of POV text from this article- I stated reading it, but got bored, so if anybody can find anything worthwhile in what was added and re-add it in a more restrained and NPOV way please feel free... quercus robur 09:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm somewhat taken aback, Quercusrobur, that you would deign to edit someone's text "because you got bored." With respect, if the new material bored you, I feel you should re-focus your attention upon a topic that actually really interests you. Or why not ask the writer, here, to consider altering their work. This would be much more respectful.I'm assuming you're not a senior Wikipedia editor.

Further, referring to your May post, again respectfully, I would ask you whether you are in a position with the Wikipedia organisation to dictate policy (?). I doubt that you'd be surprised if I went on to say that it is perfectly valid for an encyclopedia to comment critically on art presented in the past. Are you suggesting, for example, that the entry on Picasso should only present opinions on his cubist works contemporaneous with the time of their production? If you are, I would suggest that you would be gravely in error.

I would also like to point out that Yes were one of many bands of the early and mid-70s whose approach to music stimulated the birth of punk rock. This album and Yes themselves were not crucial in giving rise to punk per se. That would be much too large a claim to make on its behalf.

yours, Thos. Nov 6 2005


 * Assume what you like 'Thos', I DO have Wiki admin status if thats what you mean by a 'senior editor', and have been editing wikipedia since 2002. Apart from this I wasn't aware that there were any 'senior editors', I thought wiki editors were a topless non-hierichical collective, even if the whingers on Indymedia sometimes claim otherwise, and I DO understand wikipedia policy, which is to present useful encyclopedic, nuetral point of view information, not turn entries into waffling opinionated 'critical essays'. Yes, I got bored, your aditions to the article are lengthy and tedious fan point of view meanderings and render it no longer readable or useful, but then that is just my opinion. I can't be arsed to get into a dispute with you and shall forthwith refer this to third parties for intervention. quercus robur 19:29, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Added to Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts page as per above:
 * Tales From Topographic Oceans- See discussion on Talk:Tales From Topographic Oceans. Anon user (Thos?) has expanded article into a 'critical essay' with lots of personal opinions, etc. Needs third party view/input/severe editing and cleanup, possibly user needs clarification re. NPOV and other Wikipedia policies. 21:10, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Apologies, this isn't an anon editor but user:thoss, who I assume is the previous anon contributor now signed in. Could still do with a third party look-over though... quercus robur 22:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Thos
My comments yesterday at the Topographic talk page were rude, ignorant and uncalled for- I shouldn't have reverted your edits so brutally although they DO need an NPOV edit, preferably from a third party rather than me. I should have flagged this up, or at least pointed you in the direction of wiki policy (which I see somebody has now put at the top of your talk page) rather than just reverting the whole page. Sorry if I pissed you off, I'm noramlly quite a reasonable person to work with, honest! quercus robur 19:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes wiki
Thos, you may be interested to know that there is a dedicated Yes wiki [Yesclopedia], your article on Topographic may be better suited to this outlet where presumably there is much more leeway for critical personal opinions and commentary than within wikipedia. check it out and see what you think. Cheers quercus robur 23:27, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Beatles for Sale
Hi. Your editing at Beatles for Sale seems to contradict No original research. If you disagree with the referenced music critic, the thing to do is not remove the referenced material and insert your own opinion, but to instead find a verifiable reference that expresses the points you feel are lacking. Thanks. Jkelly 01:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I would like to correct something; I have neither contributed much to that article nor am well-versed in Beatles music criticism.  The talk page is at Talk:Beatles for Sale.  You'll find such a Talk page attached to every article.  If the "Discuss" link isn't obvious on your screen, you can enter Talk:Article name in your search box to go there.  I sincerely hope that you will contribute to the article, as it seems that you are well-versed in Beatles literature.  If you notice unsupported claims in the article, feel free to remove them from the article and paste them to the Talk page for sourcing.  It would be worth your while to read WP:CITE to ensure that any additions that you would like to make aren't removed by other editors as being unsupported.  While this might seem counter-intuitive, it is better for an article to say "Music critic x said such-and-such", even if the statement advertises the ignorance of that music critic, then it is for Wikipedia to present unsourced information.  I suggest that you make use of citations to specific pages of Lewisohn's book, since that seems to be a source that you, as an expert contributor, feel is more reliable than AMG.  Please don't be put off by either the rapidity that seemingly-unsourced additions are removed or by the inexpert, but good-faith, attempts of previous editors to make the article comprehensive.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask them at my Talk page.  Thanks. Jkelly 18:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)


 * You may also wish to check out WP:ALBUM, which has guidelines for working on Album pages and facilitates centralized discussion on Album articles issues. Jkelly 18:37, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Clink on this link: Talk:Beatles for Sale. That will take you to the discussion page. Jkelly 22:28, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Highway (album)
Actually, by the standard of your recent edit, about 90% of this article should be deleted. It's largely fancruft and/or unsubstantiated. --Rodhullandemu 23:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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