User talk:Three-quarter-ten

New article Review on 3D printer Extruder
Hi 3/4-10, I am working on an article, "3D printer Extruder" located in my sandbox. It would be really helpful if you could spare some time to review it and follow up with suggestion. Thank you. Priybrat (talk) 20:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Roller hearth kiln
Hi - following your message I have left a reply at  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.238.178 (talk) 03:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Types of lathes
Well, if I knew how to use Wikkipedia I would conribute more. I don't mind helping out on engineering as I have a lifetime of work in machineshops of evry kind and worldwide.Ieuan Sant 22:26, 24 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ieuan Sant (talk • contribs)

Surface feet per minute merge
3/4-10, can you please start a discussion for the merge? Thanks! Wizard191 (talk) 18:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Never mind—see Talk:Speeds and feeds. An interesting line of thought but not worth pursuing! — ¾-10 23:18, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * OK...thanks for the note! Wizard191 (talk) 14:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you...
... for your continuing interest in Ralph Flanders and James Hartness, 3/4-10! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 14:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * What a couple of cool guys. If I had been born in another era, I would have liked to have known them. — ¾-10 22:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Flanders was my paternal grandfather. His wife was remarkable, too! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 16:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Taper spindle nose with threaded retention.jpg
A tag has been placed on File:Taper spindle nose with threaded retention.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. — ¾-10 02:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Fix Harvard references in Fay automatic lathe
I added two new references in Fay automatic lathe, using the model that you have employed. I can get them to link from the text to References, but not from the References to the Bibliography. You seem to be good at that—I'm a bit rusty. Perhaps you could help. I'll bring them across to Ralph Flanders, once they are working properly. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 15:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Got them working—just a paste-o type error. Thanks again for starting the article, by the way! — ¾-10 20:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I see that I had first and last name switched—makes it kind of hard to reference properly! You're welcome on the article. Thanks for the repair! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 23:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Network
Hi, I have just reverted your additions to the Network dab page. The idea of dab pages is that they should be a simple list with the absolute minimum of information necessary for the reader to find the article being sought, see MOS:DAB. They should not have a lede as such, and in particular, the only hyperlinks should be to articles with the title network. The etymology of the word and its meanings more properly belongs on Wiktionary, for which there is already a link on the page. Thanks,  Sp in ni ng  Spark  18:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Meh, OK. For now. But just so you know, function is currently being sacrificed to form, because the rules devised so far are logically inadequate. See User:Three-quarter-ten/Ponderings. — ¾-10 18:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Possibly, but you can't unilaterally overturn the consensus. Open a debate somewhere first, like the Village pump.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  21:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You're right, of course, about the correct way to effect change on the topic. I lack motivation to pursue it right now, but I'll probably do so someday. I have a feeling that out of sheer institutional inertia, people will resist the change (which is probably why I lack motivation to pursue it). — ¾-10 21:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Unibit
See Drill_bit for an answer to your question. For even more info see the ref that's attached to both sections. For a summary it comes down to: the unibit is designed for universal applications, while a step drill is custom made for a specific application. HTH! Wizard191 (talk) 21:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Helps perfectly. Thanks! — ¾-10 21:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:Anchor
Hi, I am just trying to figure this template out. I see you used it here. Is that so you can redirect to the page at that spot rather than the top or a section heading? If it's complicated don't worry about explaining, I probably wont even use it just curiosity. I didn't catch it right from the template docs. ~ R.T.G 18:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yup, you've got it right! The general case is that, in HTML, you can link to a page, and you can also link to an anchor within that page (as long as said anchor exists). The HTML syntax is  Anchor text  . The specific case here is MediaWiki, which automatically provides an anchor for section headings, but for a long time didn't give users a way to create any other kind of anchor within a page's content. Eventually the templates Anchor and Visible anchor were developed to fill in that gap. They're incredibly useful, because sometimes you could really use to link to one particular sentence or paragraph that's buried within a larger section, and you don't want to waste your reader's time with a link only to the top of the section. In other words, having the ability to create anchors at will increases the targeting precision of linking, which sometimes has real value. Cheers, — ¾-10 18:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the barnstar and kind words on your user page! I thought it was a good idea, but its definitely turned out better than expected. To bad I don't have as much time to waste enjoy on Wikipedia as I used to. I see lots of things I would love to improve, but the real life things, like the wife, baby and moving, keep getting in the way. Luckily this thing doesn't have a due date! Wizard191 (talk) 01:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice to find some things in life that don't. Later! — ¾-10 03:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Screw machine
Hi, now that Screw machine is a disambig, please don't forget the WP:FIXDABLINKS policy and help with the cleanup! Thanks, -- Ja Ga  talk 14:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


 * That's an interesting topic (one that I did actually consider) ... the thing is that some of the links will refer to any kind of screw machine, so they should actually remain about as ambiguous as they are. An analogy would be if I had just split an article called "vehicle" into "car" and "truck"—quite a few of the links to "vehicle" should remain as pointing to the entire superset. But you're right that I should check out "what links here" and see which ones I can narrow or not. Thanks, — ¾-10 21:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Pharmacy Automation
Hello, thank you for your work in making the article stronger. The original posting was very much company product based. I got involved with it as I was a mobile Technical "trouble shooter" for the Kirby brothers in 1980. My knowledge this side of the "Pond" allowed more in-depth historical content, and I encouraged John Kirby to release more information.Francis E Williams (talk) 19:03, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Quite welcome. I think it's an interesting topic whose history we're lucky to know. I agree that the article started as looking only at Kirby Lester and only at tablet counting, but it can now naturally grow to cover the whole industry (other companies and other tasks). I must admit that I am no expert in pharmacy or its automation, but as an educated layperson I do find this topic interesting, along with the automation of other fields as well. Best regards, — ¾-10 19:10, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed bias from the article by adding country of origin in development chronology, and have removed any company names (other than model references in the text). This will (hopefully) ensure the article will survive. I have linked it to all related articles,Pharmacy now contains a "main article" tag to it.Francis E Williams (talk) 11:27, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Nice work. In my own opinion, it would be OK to mention company names once or twice for the sake of relevant (i.e., notable) history (another example would be mentioning Bayer in the article on aspirin, or Brown & Sharpe in the article on milling machines). However, I think you were wise to be minimalist about mentioning the names, because you're quite right that some Wikipedians have a very low threshold between historical interest and advertising. Especially for companies that are today still in the business being discussed. So I like your balance point. — ¾-10 02:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment, I would like to see recogniction given to these pioneering comapanies also. I have retained the inventor, but not the founding company names for the very reasons that you have outlined above. Regards,Francis E Williams (talk) 11:30, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Your expertise is needed
I know you know a lot about lathes, so maybe you can help me clear this up (I'm working through "vague" tags on metalworking articles right now): "When clear facing work that must be supported on both ends but cannot be accommodated with a steady rest, a half dead center, also known as a notch center, can be used.". The sentence structure is poor, so I'm not sure if the item being described is a "steady rest", which is also known as a "half dead center" and "notch center", or if a "half dead center" is a type of steady rest. I can't find anything on a google book search for "half dead center" or "notch center", however I did find this for a steady rest:. Any help is appreciated. Wizard191 (talk) 00:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Wizard. I actually know the answer to this question, which pleases me. It's pretty simple to visualize once you know the answer, but putting it into words is kind of hard. Basically, facing, as you probably already know, is feeding the tool bit radially along the rotating workpiece in order to cut a smooth surface on the "circle" part at either end of the cylinder. A problem arises when you are facing a piece that is held on centers, which is that the center itself gets in the way of feeding the tool bit all the way to the center of the circle. There are various workarounds to circumvent this problem. (1) Pull some fancy manual dexterity where you back the tailstock center partially out of the workpiece long enough to reach into the hole with the facing tool bit. (2) Use a half dead center (aka "half center" aka "half-center"), which is a regular center with half of its tip ground away to leave room for the tool bit to reach into the hole. (Half centers can also help with lubrication, which is important because the rotating workpiece is sliding against the stationary center [the "stationary" aspect being why it's called "dead"; the tip of a "live" center rotates along with the workpiece on a roller element bearing.]) (3) Forgo the tailstock center entirely (at least when it comes time to face off, if not before that), and either rely on the headstock end holding the workpiece "good enough" to do the final facing near the tail hole (which works if the headstock end is held in a chuck, but not if it's riding a center of its own), or (in the latter case especially) support the tail end with a steady rest (aka "center rest" as the limeys call it, which is confusing because it sounds a lot like "center" as in "center"). Under these circumstances, people rig up setups where the workpiece is kept from falling off the headstock center by lashing the dog to its drive plate with a leather strap. ANYWAYS, this would all make sense with pictures or YouTube video, but hard to make clear in writing. HTH. — ¾-10 04:39, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have encountered these sorts of problems myself on my own lathes. May I offer a possible solution for a descrition of the process.


 * "When clear facing work that must be supported on both ends but cannot be accommodated with a steady rest, a half dead center, also known as a notch center, can be used."


 * This could be replaced with this.


 * "When clear facing a long length of material it must be supported at both ends. This can be achieved by the use of a travelling or fixed steady. If a steady is not available, the work may be supported by a dead (stationary) half centre. A half centre has a flat surface across half of its diameter at the pointed end. Lubrication must be appied at this point and a reduction in tail stock pressure is advised."   Francis E Williams (talk) 11:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, so really the sentence is trying to describe two different things. Francis, if you don't mind I'm going to copy your recommendation in, because that's a big improvement. I'm also going to see if I can get a pic of a half center, now that I know what it trying to be described here. I think I've seen one in our model shop before. Wizard191 (talk) 15:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it looks like you took care of it for me. Thanks! Wizard191 (talk) 15:36, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Fellows Gear Shaper Co. picture listed for speedy deletion
Hi, 3/4-10. I've received notice that File:FellowsGearShaperPlant-New.jpg has been tagged for speedy deletion for lack of adequate justification on its importance to the article. Perhaps you could help weigh in on whether that is appropriate at File talk:FellowsGearShaperPlant-New.jpg. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 00:24, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I weighed in there on behalf of reason. It should be kept. — ¾-10 02:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, 3/4-10! The zeal for deletion did seem a bit hasty to me. User:HopsonRoad 14:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm in Australia, about to board a vessel with poor internet connection. I was wondering whether the issue has been resolved on this one. If so, could you contact User:PhilKnight and have him remove the image from the "endangered species" list? If not, could you enlist the input of a few others at File talk:FellowsGearShaperPlant-New.jpg to provide more than two sources of judgment on keeping the image? I very much appreciate your help! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 19:30, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The discussion has fizzled out in favor of "keep". I've posted a comment at the XFD discussion asking someone to tell me how to close the XFD action as "kept". Thanks. — ¾-10 19:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * We lost. For the record I think this image's presence on Wikipedia was hurting no one and its absence detracts from the article a bit, so the net result is that deletion = dumb. But it's about like a federal circuit court case—unless you devote resources to challenging the very constitutionality of the law before the supreme court, it's the end of the story. Sigh. — ¾-10 01:49, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts, 3/4-10, I'll try to obtain an image with license from the Springfield, Vermont Historical society, now that I'm back from points south and west. Cheers,User:HopsonRoad 03:47, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking of driving down to photograph the building, myself. However, my local paper just reported that portions are being demolished to redevelop the facility! The plan would leave the riverside facade intact, however. User:HopsonRoad 02:46, 25 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds great. Whether you manage to snap pics before the redevelopment, after it, or both, a photo would always be most welcome, in my view. One great thing about taking your own photos—it feels great slapping a copyleft license on an image you created! It always feels satisfying to me in some way. Like philanthropy in a tiny little way. Call it microphilanthropy, perhaps? Anyway, happy holidays! — ¾-10 03:56, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

You probably know the answer to this
Hello again...you can probably answer my question at Talk:Ironworker_(brand) quickly for me. Thanks! Wizard191 (talk) 19:30, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
SchuminWeb (Talk) 19:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Pharmacy automation - the Video. A brilliant find !, it provides movement and moments of fascination for any reader.Francis E Williams (talk) 11:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

You've got mail
from User:HopsonRoad 18:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Automation
It looks like you've taken this article even further afield into esoteric economic theory, mostly without any sources. I think you need to turn your essay paragraphs into sourced facts if you want them to stay. Dicklyon (talk) 23:46, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Churchill
Hi, and thanks for your help with the article. It seems to have gone from AfD to DYK in a matter of days but I'm still learning a lot about how to actually use WP and inevitably I am making mistakes with formatting citations etc and appreciate people who keep an eye on me! I do look through the changes and am learning from seeing what you and others do to whatever it is I've mangled this time.

As far as slavishness vs. complaisance goes, well, the problem with both is that they're sort of highfalutin' words that probably will go over the top of the heads of a fair few people. OTOH, there is so much inavoidable jargon in the thing anyway, both financial and engineering, that perhaps I should suggest a new WP rule: we have AGF but perhaps need AGB - assume good brain. I'm happy with the change, though. There are a few other people who are looking in on the thing and doubtless consensus will out.

Thanks again and do keep correcting me. Sitush (talk) 17:10, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed—you've hit upon the core right there. We want to assume good brain (AGB), yet the nature of the world keeps intervening stubbornly. The great challenge is bringing the layperson along without oversimplifying to the point of inaccuracy or gross omission. Thank God for the existence of hyperlinking in that regard. My own opinion is that the jargon and register of specialties should not be eliminated from Wikipedia articles (the costs are not worth the benefits), but rather the articles should provide drill-down-ability via links for those readers (and there will inevitably be plenty) who need more explanation of any given thing. I've been rediscovering the joys of links to Wiktionary entries, as an addition to the main course of linking to other Wikipedia articles. Sometimes all they need is a one-line paraphrase of what a word means; then they're back to the main topic at hand. Anyway, I am waxing digressive as is my wont. Awesome work on Churchill. I'm sure you'll see me around, gnoming it up and occasionally getting overcaffeinated before settling back down and eating my vegetables. Cheers, — ¾-10 17:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

New tractor pictures
I came here because of your many contributions to the tractor article. I am not sure but...I hope you are the right person or know the right person to make use of and correctly categorize the many pictures of Hart-Parr tractors and information plaques I just uploaded to Commons. My contributions page is at THIS PAGE which lists all my new uploads. I am new at Wikipedia and very new at pictures as I just received a good digital camera from my daughter for Christmas. She lives in Charles City where what I think is a fantastic tractor museum (check the Floyd County, Iowa category for a picture) and I intend to go back and take more and better pictures this summer. Besides the Hart-Parr (and there is many more of them besides the ones I took pictures of) there is also Oliver and White tractors I think. If someone has a request let me know. Now for my mistakes, unfortunately I was so new with the camera - my very first pictures - I did not have the "shake stabilizer" feature enabled. Also when I uploaded I used the Tractor category as it popped up as a choice, after uploading all the pictures I went to that category and it said to use Tractors :( and then I seen many different categories so that is why I am here asking for someone with more expertise to place them all in the proper category. I did put them all in the Hart-Parr category at least. I have your page on my watch-list for the duration of this conversation so just respond here. Respond on my talk page for any picture requests. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  20:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi—Sounds good. I have noticed on Commons how sometimes there are similar categories that inadvertently fork each other (that is, overlap in their areas of application). Perfect example would be the one you mentioned (tractor and tractors). This is understandable given the DIY nature of WP and Commons, but it does cause frustration too, as you mentioned. I think the thing that makes sense is to make the categories like trees, where, for example, a Hart-Paar tractor goes in category "Hart-Paar", which then is made a subcat of cat:tractor, which then means that the cat:tractor tag does not have to go on each photo (because each photo automatically belongs to cat:tractor by way of subcat:Hart-Parr—i.e., branch of tree). This is typical of WP and Commons cats. I'm glad you're taking the photos, for the following reason. We won't be able to put them all in the one WP article "tractor", but we will end up putting many of them in the various individual articles, such as Oliver, Farmall, John Deere, Allis Chalmers, Rumely, threshing machine, stationary engine, traction engine, etc. In my opinion it is great to get all the media we can get at Commons. Regards, — ¾-10 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nominal


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The article Nominality has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
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 * I'm more OK with this inevitable change than I thought I would be. No attempt from me to stand in the way, and certainly no hard feelings or poor regard to you yourself, at all. Here's my take, in a nutshell. This type of change is de-improving our Wikimedia projects, but it is "OK" in the sense that it's the law of the land. (To use a Godwin's-law-level hyperbolic example, for lack of any better, smaller example coming to mind, it's like the fugitive slave laws: Whether the cops were "wrong" to enforce them is a philosophical question that's best avoided in favor of the more important question that would supersede that whole quandary, which is whether the law is a good idea to begin with. The changes made to "nominal" are entirely in line with consensus—with the consensus being conventional, inside-the-box, dead-tree-era pedagogy. So it's "OK" although not "good". A reader who lacks the information that my version of "nominal" was providing can still obtain all that same information by clicking through to Wiktionary; it's just that we're now serving them with an inferior level of pedagogy—the standard old pedagogy of dead-tree dictionaries and encyclopedias. The kind that, yes, did indeed contain the water [knowledge], but that many people never successfully drank from. What my version was tending toward was something closer to an expert system, where novice people ask basic questions and the system spoon-feeds them the knowledge—even the pieces that they weren't clueful enough to know to ask about. Spoon-feeding is one of the kinds of pedagogy that many humans actually need, regardless of the pedagogical state of the art of the pre-Internet era, which tried to deny or ignore that. Things like Qwiki may eventually lead the way on this (if they can be executed effectively, which will be challenging). Wikipedia and Wiktionary might get dragged into the 21st century in follow-up, once users all agree that the new way is better. But that's all years down the road, and speculative. Anyway, I'm out of time to finish my thoughts here, so I'll just say "no argument", and I truly have no hard feelings against the cops—only against the laws they're enforcing. Best regards, — ¾-10 15:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

== New Version or Alternate Version of the table: "List of G-codes commonly found on Fanuc and similarly designed controls". ==

It's been several months since I looked into the G-code article. What I see is a dramatic improvement over the past, esp. the use of the two references from Industrial Press. Having said that, I'd like to now add in some more information to the table called "List of G-codes commonly found on Fanuc and similarly designed controls".

What I have now is VERY MUCH A WORK IN PROGRESS. Please feel free to look at it at this location: [/User:LP-mn/Sandbox#List_of_G-codes_commonly_found_on_Fanuc_and_similarly_designed_controls]. Note that as of this writing, I have NOT yet decided as to if what I'm composing will replace the existing table, or be an entirely different/alternate page that is referred to at the top of that section.

But, that is NOT the reason I'm writing this to you right now... I'd like to know how the G-Code article's use of the references happened. I'm trying to track down the html-like code that was first used to add in the two Ind. Press sources, and I can't find it in the "source" code (so to speak). Below are some examples of what I found; for simplicity's sake I've replaces the '=', '{', '}', '<' and '>' with just the '-" character. Here are those examples of what I mean: --References-- --Reflist--

--Bibliography--
 * --MachinerysHandbook25e--
 * --Smid2008--

I also found this code: ---Letter addresses---

Some letter addresses are used only in milling or only in turning; most are used in both. Bold below are the letters seen most frequently throughout a program.

Sources: Smid-ref name="Smid2008"- --Harvnb|Smid|2008--.-/ref-; Green et al.-ref name="Greenetal1996"- --Harvnb|Green|1996|pp=1162–1226--. -/ref-

What I did NOT find is where and how the text was produced in the Bibliography, such as:
 * 1) Green, Robert E. et al. (eds) (1996), Machinery's Handbook (25 ed.), New York, NY, USA: Industrial Press, ISBN 978-0-8311-2575-2, http://www.worldcat.org/title/machinerys-handbook/oclc/473691581.
 * 2) Smid, Peter (2008), CNC Programming Handbook (3 ed.), New York, NY, USA: Industrial Press, LCCN 2007-045901, ISBN 9780831133474.

Can you give me a "Heads Up" on the technique used to do the references? LP-mn (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Here it is after midnight (in my time zone), and instead of going straight to bed I find myself surfing WP a bit. I know just what you're asking about. I'll come back tomorrow and give an explanation. Glad you like the article development. Later, — ¾-10 05:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

[zzzzz]


 * OK—I've had my beauty sleep (didn't work—still ugly) and plenty of coffee. No pie this morning, but that's OK—more later. Now to the question. Basically what you're seeing is various little tools that "do the magic for you, so you don't have to do it." Here's what I mean:
 * As you may have already deduced before I said this, the tags are a little tool such that whatever is enclosed between them will automatically be moved down into the ref list upon display (that is, under the heading "References"). Bonus points: It will not show up unless you put a tag to tell it to happen. That can be either

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