User talk:Thryduulf/archive10

Pakistani textbooks
Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 November 15 was closed as Delete. The vote count was: I consider this to be no consensus situation. I wrote a comment on talk page of User:Ruslik0, who did it, but he seems to be out now. Could You please reopen and relist the entry or explain me, why that shouldn't be done. &mdash; Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 19:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: 1
 * Redirect: 1
 * Delete: 3

Wikipedia_talk:Tool_apprenticeship
Hi :-)

Re. "Oppose for now"

The trial will only grant temporary rights to a limited number (10) users. They will only have the right for one month. At the end of it, the right WILL be removed.

Maybe that needs to be made more clear, in the proposal? Can we make that clearer - would that help?

Thanks for your time,  Chzz  ► 01:48, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding. To be 100% honest, I'm not sure myself if it will be a success, or a fail; nor am I sure what we will learn from a trial. However - hear me out; a) I cannot see a negative effect from a shirt trial on a tightly-limited number (let's face it, their actions are gonna be watched, by a LOT of people!) and b) whether it works or not, we will learn a lot. Also - again, juust being straight with you - I think something needs to change; after years of discussion about RfA, I would honestly strongly support a proposal for e.g. "Admins must wear a funny hat on Thursdays" - just to show things could change. I hope you understand where I am coming from, and all I wish is, that we could try to get consensus for any kind of trial. If that means proposing just "Chzz is given 'delete' rights for 1 day" then I'd fall back to that. I believe it is possible to adjust the proposal so that everyone is happy. I hope we can reach some agreement.  Chzz  ►  04:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Thrydulff, I've now added Tool_apprenticeship briefly detailing how the process trial will be assessed. I'm open to other suggestions on improving this evaluation. [also posted to Wikipedia talk:Tool_apprenticeship] Dcoetzee 05:25, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I get that. It's more how it will be judged a success or failure that I'm concerned about. Thryduulf (talk) 02:37, 29 November 2011 (UTC) Copied back from my talk just to keep it threaded...  Chzz  ► 16:33, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think we will be able to say "Yes, that was a success" or "No, that fails" from this trial. But I do think it'll give us plenty to talk about, with a view to maybe refining it, or maybe scrapping the idea, or maybe coming up with something considerably different.
 * The point being - re. "funny hats on Thursdays" - that for years, we've been discussion change to RfA, with absolutely no effect. That's why I think any attempt at change - on a very very limited number of users, for a very limuted time, tightly controlled - is at least worth a try. The RfA community is somewhat entrenched; set in its ways; very resistance to change of any kind. Yet the rate of new admins is plummeting - and knock-on effects of certain attitudes (ie admin-is-a-big-deal, 'holier than though') is certainly one of the major influences on the massive fall in editor retention.
 * I don't want to waffle. Just... I think there is no significant risk to the trial, but there is a great chance of significant benefit; not necessarily in the immediate sense (of e.g. creating some new admins), but in terms of it being the start of true reform.  Chzz  ► 16:33, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Fatshark
Hi Thryduulf. I'm just  wondering  how you  would feel  about  me requesting  a delrev on this. Regards, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:08, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Why? If you think I've made the wrong decision, then please explain why you think that. You were the only one arguing for deletion, and there was very little other contribution, which is rarely going to result in any consensus. It was open over three weeks and relisted twice, so I felt the chances of another relist bringing more input to the discussion was very low. Thryduulf (talk) 19:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, first  off, I  naturally  have no  personal  interest  in  the article whatsoever, and I'm  certainly  not  a deletionist. However, I  nominated it  of course because I  naturally  felt  there would be a very fair chance that  it  would be deleted. From  a purely  neutral  standpoint, if I  had been uninvolved I  would probably have closed it  as 'delete' on  the strength of the valid arguments put  forward in  a rational  and objective way  by  Kudpung that  demonstrate that  the refs are far from  reliable, and do  nothing  to  assert notability,  and I  would have checked those refs for reliability  and coverage, and searched for more before closing. Secondly  that  some of the 'keep' votes are of dubious validity, and that  the keep votes do  not  offer any  policy  based rationale other than 'it's notable' (read: 'I like FatShark'), and that  finally  none of the voters responded to  invitations to  qualify  their votes. The fact  that there was generally  a total  disinterest  from  the community after so  many  relistings  also  tends to  demonstrate that  subject  is little  known and of low importance -  although this is a subjective argument. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:36, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not the job of the AfD closer to evaluate the sources in an article, nor to look for more. The job of the AfD closer is to evaluate the arguments presented in the discussion. There was your argument for deletion, based on the unreliability of sources; a counter argument that the sources did show enough for notability and nothing else of relevance. The deletion arguments were stronger, but not overwhelming and one user wanting deletion does not make a consensus. Take it to DRV if you want, but I don't see how this can be anything other than a no consensus closure. Thryduulf (talk) 19:42, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If it is suspected that people are arguing  either 'keep' or 'delete' on  arguments that  are clearly  not  in line with  notability  policy, or that  their claims that  sources are reliable when they  are not, or that  coverage is extensive when it  is not, or have been claiming  for sources that  do  not  address the subject, then I  believe it  is part of the closer's job  to  take that  into  consideration. I  equally  believe that  less weight  should be accorded to  a vote, whether keep  or delete, from  a user who  appears to  have registered during  an AfD and ostensibly  just  for the purpose of voting  in  that  AfD - apart from  the possible sock that  it  might  actually be.  Nevertheless you  will  be relieved to  know that I had no intention  of wasting anyone's time with  a delrev,  as I  said, I  don't  really  care if it is kept  or not - it's not  a toxic article, and if  the community's interest  in it  is anything  to  go  by, the general public are hardly  likely  to  view the page much  either. I  just  wanted your take on it. Thanks for your feedback. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:10, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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My sincere thanks
With the time sensitive Rs I have been searching around a bit but most of the obvious I think yo are already covered.

I did make once upon a time, and it is also available in French and Hungarian. It is about as much use as a snake in an arse kicking competition, though.

Thanks for all your hard work as a Wikipedian. It may not seem so, but at least one other editor notices.

My sincere best wishes

Si Trew (talk) 05:54, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Sorry!!!

is this any good — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip123456 (talk • contribs)


 * Well you want to link to the actual article about the route GOCO proposed route doesn't exist, and GOCO (you used before) is a glossary of military abbreviations. Unless it's being operated by First Great Western, you don't want to be using FGW colours. Also, I'm not sure there is consensus for adding proposed routes to station articles - you'll need to ask about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways. Thryduulf (talk) 13:38, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

There are a number of articles which do show proposed routes. I'm not too sure on how to remove colours, however GOCO is now the Proper trading name for Go! Cooperative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip123456 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

So can I add it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip123456 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Some stations I've seen have got proposed routes I'll add it and if they don't think it's good they'll remove it I emailed

How can I get to the project page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip123456 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip123456 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not for me to say - you need to discuss it at the project talk page and get consensus first. Thryduulf (talk) 15:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:SUP
Thanks for your opinion here. I've just posted a related note here: Wikipedia talk:School and university projects. --Edcolins (talk) 20:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Foot Amputation.JPG
This image is still protected; do you know if SoxBot is fixed yet? Nyttend (talk) 01:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No idea, sorry. Thryduulf (talk) 06:08, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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Archiving WT:BADIMAGE
I noticed that talk page archiving is being done manually there at the moment. Would it not be a good idea to set up a ClueBot III or similar archiving service?  It Is Me Here   t / c 13:47, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Any thoughts on the best interval? Thryduulf (talk) 14:17, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Umm well WT:RM uses 30 days old and minimum of 5 threads left, so maybe go for that? (Also N.B. some archive bot templates' age parameters are in days, and others' are in hours, so be careful).  It Is Me Here   t / c 14:24, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've put the template for MiszaBot II on the page (that bot works in days, ClueBotII only in hours) and set it to 30 days old, 5 threads left and a maximum archive size of 60kb (the last is approximate maximum size of any of the existing archives, the smallest is only about 11kb). Thryduulf (talk) 15:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

give him the rope
The rope is in Ludwigs' hands, it is up to him how do deal with it, don't let yerself get baited into a tit-for-tat in a ArbCom case request, they hate that. We all felt the frustrations during the Muhammad/images and WT:NOT, wrestling between rehashing a counterpoint for the umpteenth time and wondering if we didn't, would he take that to mean "silence means consent". But this is different, let his most recent statement speak for itself. It speaks (practically screams) volumes about why & how these debates got so contentious. Tarc (talk) 19:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

*cough*
Would you like to revert? Hasteur (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I did get an edit conflict with that, but it showed me edit conflicting with the version I was editing - i.e. my word was shown as conflicting with an empty cell so I just played my word again. I didn't realise that it was a genuine edit conflict with another user rather than the spurious conflicts with myself I occasionally get. Sorry.
 * I've not reverted as such, but replaced my word with yours as played between you leaving this message and me receiving it (I was grocery shopping). I'll leave a note on their page about it and so they might want to change their word so I suggest you either don't play or at least don't play off their word until they've had a chance to. Thryduulf (talk) 00:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Whatever be, move on... DebashisM (talk) 03:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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I am interested in adding a previously deleted article to a Wikia wiki to which it is particularly relevant. Please would you consider userfying the following article to my account : ...which you deleted as routine maintenance, according to the result of the following AFD : If this is possible, it would save me a great deal of research. I have no interest whatever in restoring the article to Wikipedia mainspace.
 * List of musicians who died before the age of 60 aka List of musicians who died young
 * Articles for deletion/List of musicians who died young
 * Anarchangel (talk) 23:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ - restored and userfied to User:Anarchangel/List of musicians who died before the age of 60. When you're done with it, please mark it for deletion and an admin will be along to tidy up shortly. Thryduulf (talk) 23:59, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

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MSU Interview
Dear Thryduulf,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
 * All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 21:47, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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Requesting assistance
Hello, I hope you don't mind me contacting you in person. I thought you might be able to help as you are already familiar with at least part of the problem. I am quite hurt and shocked at the accusations made against me by Machine Elf 1735 on the tai chi RfD, which he continued in much greater length on Talk:T'ai chi ch'uan. I think they have now reached the point of being personal attacks: his last post on the RfD asserted that it is "perfectly obvious" that I am lying, gaming the system, 'hollering', circumventing discussion and generally acting in very bad faith.

This is only my second RfD and I tried very hard to get everything right, including discussing the issue in depth before filing it (with someone who, despite Machine Elf's assertions, mostly agreed with me and certainly did not oppose me). I don't understand what, if anything, I actually did wrong, and I don't know whether I should be defending myself against these accusations that he's making about me. Everyone else involved has been entirely helpful and cooperative but he really seems sure that I'm doing something very bad. I feel thoroughly bitten and certainly having serious doubts about participating on the administrative side of Wikipedia again. I don't like having his attacks up there unopposed, possibly making them look like legit complaints to any passing Wikipedian and putting them off contributing to the RfD, but I don't want to escalate the situation by having an argument about conduct and civility on an RfD. I would like to respond to what he's said about the redirects themselves (which is actually on-topic) but I am sure he will bite me again if I try, as he has not responded well to calm discussion thus far.

My question is what should I do about this? This is the most serious hostility I've faced on my short time on Wikipedia, by a long way. Since you are in a small way involved, does that make you the right admin for me to ask for help, or the wrong one? I hoped that by contacting you, I would not be further accused of forum shopping (you have already contributed to the RfD). I also have a mentor but he's very busy at the mo. If you can't help directly, should I take it to Wikiquette assistance, or somewhere else? I just want the false accusations to stop, and if I have genuinely done anything wrong, I want to know what it is. Thank you for your time. ~ Kimelea   (talk)  19:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for requesting the collapse of the character assassination.—Machine Elf 1735  00:36, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Legal terrorism
Hello Thryduulf. Please see my reply to your comments at Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 March 28. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 13:40, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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A couple of RFD closures
I was wondering why you closed the RFDs for Template:Anchor for Redirect and Michel Aoun#Archive1 as keep? I don't think any arguments made in either debate had any recourse to policy, so, given that each had one "delete" and one "keep" apiece, I think both are fairly clear cases of "no consensus". I might be missing something though. Either way, it's obviously not a remotely big deal. Keep up the good work! – hysteria18 (talk) 01:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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Your close of Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2012_March_28
I'm surprised by this close. There were two !votes to delete, just one keep !voter. The redirects were just nonfunctional clutter, completely implausible as search terms and all pointing to the same article. Could you please explain or reconsider the close? Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 21:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Quoting policy/guidelines doesn't demonstrate that policy/guidelines are being applied correctly. Creating redirects from "articles" that don't exist, have never existed, and have no reasonable likelihood of ever existing, with titles that are nowhere near plausible search terms is simply inappropriate clutter. All three redirects pointed to the same article, and no reason was given to explain why we needed four separate "see also" links, with four inexplicably different titles, to the same target. One link in the "see also" section would have been sufficient and consistent with practice in other articles; just using section links rather than fake-title redirects would have been more than sufficient. An unexplained and implausible "it's useful" from the creator really isn't really anything but an "I like it" response; this is really a matter of editing discretion, where there's no good reason to reject the expressed consensus. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:03, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

re: Keven Veilleux
Good evening, Thryduulf. You closed the RfD on Keven Veilleux earlier today as "delete" but then never deleted the redirect. You also relisted Scott Wilson (ice hockey), a case that looked identical to me. I suspect maybe an edit got overwritten? I'll help clean up if you tell me what you wanted done. Rossami (talk) 22:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant to delete Keven Veilleux, but I'm having very significant connection issues at present so I guess it never took. I relisted Scott Wilson due to the AfD issues, but if you feel that I should have been consistent then please feel free to go ahead and make them consistent in whichever direction you think best. Cheers. Thryduulf (talk) 13:30, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't feel all that strongly one way or the other. And I'm perhaps more comfortable than most with the idea that Wikipedia is inconsistent.  You've already closed it as Delete.  I'll abide by that decision.  Since I seem to be having better luck with connections today, I'll carry out the delete for you.  Thanks.  Rossami (talk) 14:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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Simply south...... going on editing sprees for just 6 years (as of 28/03/2006) 23:13, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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user:Againme
Thank you for your advice. That's a very annoying user, for four years he's been creating an article about himself. I had him blocked because he used sock puppets, and I tried to block him again but an administrator told me that was ancient history. Maybe he's right, but he keeps creating that page with slight name changes, although he doesn't use sock puppets anymore. I'll keep an eye on him and do as you say. I'm almost sure he will create that page again. PeterCantropus (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Thryduulf, Peter and all. That editor was right in that it's ancient history. Don't worry, I don't think of creating the article again. Also, I wanted to report PeterCanthropus on a personal attack on me. On my talk page, he called me boludo (roughly Spanish for asshole), where can I do that? Greetings to you all. --Againme (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Personal attacks like that are probably best reported at WP:WQA, unless they are part of a long term pattern of incivility when WP:AN/I or another step on the Dispute resolution ladder may be more appropriate. Thryduulf (talk) 18:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh! Thanks for the info. But at this point I think I'll let it go. Thanks again --Againme (talk) 15:15, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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Uniform motion
I'd appreciate your reply on the RfD on Uniform motion. I contacted Tideflat (the nominator) a few days ago, but never received any response. Thank you! 786b6364 (talk) 12:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Again, I'd appreciate your further reply on this. Hopefully we can agree on a solution. 786b6364 (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've had a quick look but I'm too tired to fully understand it at the moment, so I'm not going to comment now. I'll try and get to it when I'm next online (which may not be for a week or so). Thryduulf (talk) 19:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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Indentation again
Hi, Thryduulf. Since you took part in an RfC at the talk page for our indentation essay, I wonder whether you might care to comment here, as well. No additional blocks are being sought, but a broader consensus on the indentation issue would be welcome. Best, --OhioStandard (talk) 01:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

June Metro
On time for once! Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 21:26, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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July Metro
Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 22:56, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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IBAN
hi,just thought to let you know that the IBAN between Darkness shines and TopGun had been removed after the Discussion at ANI, I dont have the link at the moment, If you want you can dig it. cheers-- D Big X ray  18:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Socially Liberal
A quick thank you for your efforts with the socially liberal page. I kind of started the debate, but wasn't able to follow it to the conclusion (my occupation means I can't rely on a good internet connection) - your solution was a good and pragmatic one. DistractionActivity (talk) 18:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.
Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:07, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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RfD question
Hey Thryduulf, I'm curious why you closed the other two bad RfDs (for already-deleted redirects) but not this one: Wikipedia:IWONTHEARYOU. From what I can tell, the closure of the original discussion occurred shortly after this nomination. I can't tell whether the redirect was nominated improperly (perhaps the original nom didn't tag it?), but the way it looks to me, that other one shouldn't be left open either. However I'm not certain enough to just close it. I'm not questioning your judgment, mind; you're usually rather wise regarding RfD, so I'm curious what your reasoning was. BigNate37(T) 04:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Simple oversight! Sorry. Thryduulf (talk) 07:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

RfD relisted template
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Can I borrow your brain
I'd like your opinion on these two redirects, please. Help desk is the relevant discussion. Ietsism more or less asserts that its demonym is believer without religion (albeit without citation), so it's not a clear-cut matter. BigNate37(T) 02:12, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, you'll see them eventually now that they're on RfD. (By the way, I mistakenly used my wikt browser search to get here, and I was so confused staring at wikt:User:Thryduulf, puzzling over what had happened.) BigNate37(T) 05:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

August Metro
Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 22:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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