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Khama Billiat
You have went and edited and removed a lot of information from this footballers profile, for which I had cited my resources, and which were factual, such as Gunners F.C. from Harare playing a major part in the AFC Champions League, and about their series against Al-Ahly from Egypt. This was inportant information regarding this particular footballer, and I see no reason for you to remove it. I would appreciate it, if you refrained from going over my work on Wikipedia, and if you do, please contact me on my page as I am doing now, and express your reasons for such edits, I seriously consider what you are doing to some of the Ajax Cape Town player pages I have created vandalism, and would like an explanation for your behaviour. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subzzee (talk • contribs) 03:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

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Henrico Botes
Why do you keep changing the height of Henrico Botes? The only source provided says he is 1.84, but you keep changing it. Unless you can provide an alternate source for the change, it is considered vandalism and a violation of WP:BLP.--TM 23:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

August 2009
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. GiantSnowman 09:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * My only "problem" is that you have removed external links, categories AND referenced information! I may not know lots about South African football, but I do know that Lekgothoane's last team was Sundowns, information which your edits removed completely! GiantSnowman 18:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

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Unreferenced BLPs
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Edits to Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
I would like to know why you removed the text relating to Bay United possibly using the stadium. Is it because the club now has new owners, and they have yet to point out their stance on the stadium? The refernce from SAFA NMB would still be valid. I will wait for 3 days, and if you have still not replied I will simply revert your edit. Crazydude22 (talk) 19:07, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Bhongolwethu Jayiya


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April 2011
Please do not remove Biographies of Living Persons prods from an article unless it contains at least one reliable source or was created before 18 March 2010, as you did with Bhongolwethu Jayiya. If you oppose the deletion of an article under this process, please consider sourcing the article or commenting at the respective talk page. Thank you. – Dream out loud (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Daniel Mudau. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. GiantSnowman 21:12, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Please do not remove referenced information from articles. Regards, GiantSnowman 21:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Please provide a source which backs up your claims and I'll be more than happy to accept your changes. GiantSnowman 22:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Alas, your common sense does not count as a reliable source by Wikipedia's standards... GiantSnowman 22:17, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, one which confirms that the referenced information you are removing from the article is indeed incorrect. GiantSnowman 22:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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Ron Artest
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 * Actually, the A should not have a bar on top per sources like this one.— Chris! c / t 18:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And please wait until that becomes the more widely-used name, as per WP:UCN. -happy5214 18:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Warning
Please don´t remove sources and sourced information as you did in Timothy Batabaire article. You are welcome to add sources and information (if sourced), but removing sources and sourced information is definitelly a no-no. I am still strugling to understand why you did what you did on that article. FkpCascais (talk) 21:06, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, NFT is considered reliable, and they even have league matches... How are you so sure he never played there? A number of Ugandan players played in Serbia, but I doubt they mixed Batabaire with someone else... By the way, Playerhistory (temporarily unavaliable) also has the OFK Niš data. FkpCascais (talk) 18:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I reported you to the Football Project and if you remove again sourced information without providing a "sourced" reason I will report you for edit-warring and removing sourced information. FkpCascais (talk) 18:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The time range is exagerated, he played in OFK Niš at the end of 2003-04 season, and begining of 2004-05 season... We don´t have to use "our logic", and sources from that period are not obligated to add his short experience in a Second league club in Serbia. He could have well been there on loan, didn´t he? All we know is that sources do have mentioned his career with OFK Niš, and when NFT has stats they usually have them confirmed, so either you contact NFT website and ask them about those stats, or otherwise we have no reason to ignore that information. FkpCascais (talk) 21:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It is not a question of being more reliable then, it is just that NFT in this case seems to have a more complete career account, simply that. Another thing, the time range of 2003-05 is exagerated as he basically (allegedly) played with OFK Niš in the Serbian Second League during the second half of 2003-04 season (February-June 2004), and first half of 2004-05 season (August-December 2004) which means he basically played only during 2004 in Serbia... allegedly, as you claim. And by seing the low number of matches, the time he spent in Serbia may well have been even lower, perhaps just a few months in 2004 where he played some matches of the end of 2003-04 season, and perhaps the first 3 of the 2004-05 season... maybe even on loan from Villa...


 * Look, I don´t mind correcting that situation if that seems to be the case, it is just that for time being his career there seems quite possible, and NFT usually have all the stats for Serbia right, otherwise mistakes are usually added as 0 (0). When they have stats from Serbia, they were allways correct, and I deal a lot with Serbian football. A number of Ugandans played and were on trial in Serbia, so it doesn´t seem strange at all.


 * I moved the discussion to article talk page, as indicated by GiantSnowman. FkpCascais (talk) 22:21, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I am saying "maybe" because you are questioning things and because we don´t know if he played there on loan. I am not sure about African leagues, but, no, NFT NEVER got stats wrong for Serbian clubs, so there is no valid reason to leave it out. About stats for Serbian clubs, whenever they had them, they were correct. Sorry. FkpCascais (talk) 00:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Miguel Timm
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Daniel Mudau
Please stop removing referenced information from articles, such as you have done at Daniel Mudau - if you have a better source, then please provide it. GiantSnowman 15:21, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, you've just done the same over at Avril Phali - please stop removing references + referenced information from articles, or I will seek further action. GiantSnowman 16:13, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Miguel Timm


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Timothy Batabaire
I'd advise you to present your sources on the article's talk page, then leave a note over at WT:FOOTY (where there is a discussion regarding your editing) advising them of your case. In future, it would also be advisable to use sources when editing, to avoid any further confustion/hassle. Cheers, GiantSnowman 21:59, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Warning against vandalism
Why did you removed stats at Rudolf Bester article? Do you have some problem with stats from Serbia? Have you been doing this in many aticles? This is the last warning. FkpCascais (talk) 04:01, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, he has done it on other articles as well. GiantSnowman 10:07, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thuglife99, I will ask you please to change your form of behavior. All of us are here trying to improve articles, and removing data is really not appreciated. One thing is to have a lower league club with stats hard to confirm, but another one is to have a top league stats from just a few years ago. You seem to question NFT stats, but beside an episode related with African club stats which were added by one banned Wikipedia user (Zombie) the rest has been reliable (and the questionable stats were all from African clubs, none European). Talking specifically about Serbia, I worked in hundreds of domastic and foreign players that played in Serbia and I can´t recall even one mistake from NFT. They can lack info (exemple, they miss stats, they miss clubs or loans, or slightly miss the stats number like with Bester) but when they have stats, there wasn´t a problem with any of them. Also, as you can see with Cukaricki case for Bester, the stats are slightly different in diverse sources (NFT says 23 m 2 g; Transfermarkt says 25 m 2 g) so as you can see they are not copiying one another, and several websites follow the league there on their own.
 * During the last couple of years I checked most players that played in Serbia, expanding and completing their articles the best way I could, so it is not pleasent to notece someone going around removing part of that work. For instance, instead of simply removing data, you should check it and try to correct it (if wrong) as after all it is an avaliable data that you simply thought easier to erase and ignore the real work. If you ever need help, please feel free to ask, I will gladly help you, but you need to stop removing all non-South African data for no valid reason. In case of questions, you can and should allways open a thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football where other users may help. FkpCascais (talk) 16:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Some tips to help you out!
Hi, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps.  Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type  on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky ( talk  …stalk!) 08:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Simple references
These require two parts;


 * a)

Chzz is 98 years old.

He likes tea.


 * b) A section called "References" with the special code " ";

Named references
Chzz was born in 1837.

Chzz lives in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates
You can put anything you like between, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals.

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier!
Hi there ! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you had to create titles for your url links manually, or were using bare urls as references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing!  Pesky  ( talk  …stalk!) 08:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Bester
When I inserted the stats in my edit (here) I gave you the source,, which btw, lists all the matches in SuperLiga he played. NFT missed 2 matches somewhere in the 2007-08 season. So it is not you who needs to lend me a calculator (provocative edit summary), but it is you who needs to stop being funny and start behaving accordingly. I already told you, in case of doubt, ask. Btw, we don´t usually add the fullname version in the infobox when it is the same as in title, just when different. FkpCascais (talk) 00:41, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Phumo DOB/POB
Please don't change the article until we can agree on content, discussion started on both place of birth and date of birth at Talk:April Phumo. Regards, GiantSnowman 19:41, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Matty Pattison
Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Matty Pattison. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 19:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

February 2012
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Muteba Kidiaba. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. GiantSnowman 23:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The pic is not a reliable source for that information - how out of date is it? What club/country does it show? I searched for a source but couldn't find one - why didn't you add one when adding the information? Please read (or re-read) WP:RS, WP:V, WP:BLP. Regards, GiantSnowman 00:38, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, and please don't remove other's comments from my talk page, as you have done here. GiantSnowman 00:41, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

March 2012
Please, please, please STOP removing valid references & information from articles, as you did at Thabang Lebese. GiantSnowman 20:02, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's original research. Please provide an alternative source to support your belief. GiantSnowman 20:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:RS and WP:V are key - read them. You HAVE to care. GiantSnowman 10:29, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

April 2012
This is your last warning. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Ayanda Patosi, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. GiantSnowman 12:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Incorrect - this is an interview with Patosi, who says "I came to Belgium when I was 16 and stayed at his place while I was playing for Genk." Like I said, please stop removing valid, referenced information. I've lost count the number of times I've warned you about stuff you say is 'wrong' despite evidence to the contrary. I've issued a final warning - if I see it again I will block. In future I suggest you use the talk page if you agree with the content of a source. GiantSnowman 20:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Where's the typo? It's a pretty big thing to get wrong. GiantSnowman 20:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So a player saying "I played for Genk when I was 16" is not good enough? GiantSnowman 11:08, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe his first spell in Genk wasn't great, but being at the Academy encouraged him to give Europe another go? GiantSnowman 08:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

September 2012
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This is your last warning. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Calvin Kadi, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. GiantSnowman 19:50, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Ambox warning pn.svg Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did at Edwin Gyimah, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. GiantSnowman 19:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You removed a perfectly valid reference, with no rationale given. GiantSnowman 20:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Because I don't always know the squad number, or the existence of squad templates. Why do you never use edit summaries? Why do you not properly reference? GiantSnowman 17:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Blocked
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Lincoln Zvasiya
I've restored the reference you removed; him playing club football in South Africa does not impact on the fact he was banned in Zimbabwe, does it? GiantSnowman 21:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting - is the ban not (yet) in effect then? Appeals etc.? GiantSnowman 21:55, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't know there was an article, ripe for expansion! Thanks, GiantSnowman 22:06, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of ASD Cape Town


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 * What is notable about it? The burden is on you to prove any notability using reliable sources. GiantSnowman 22:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you believe it is notable I will take to WP:AFD for a wider discussion, I'll let you know when I have done so. GiantSnowman 09:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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Ryan Hodgskin
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October 2013
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Edries Burton and Jean Marc Ithier
I am a football lover who contributes to Wikipedia but I'm not happy about the way you clear their statistics. You claim that they are wrong, I have a source which I use which is accurate and reliable (nationalfootballteams.com). According to their profiles,

Edries Burton has 555 apps and 18 goals

Jean Marc Ithier has 343 apps and 135 goals

Please stop with your disruptive editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sphe07 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Gavin Lane
Are you sure Gavin Lane played for Swallows and Kaizer Chiefs? I know that he played for Giant Blackpool, Highlanders Park, Orlando Pirates and Amazulu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sphe07 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Orlando Pirates managers template
I was doing research on Johannes "BigBoy" Khoalane who played for Chiefs and Pirates. In that article I came across "Alex Forbes" who was a manager at Pirates in the 70s. Something told me to look at the template. But its not accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sphe07 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Neil Tovey
What was that for? Why did you undo the revision? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImpiloYatsotsi99 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sphe07
Thanks, I had already noticed this and started a sockpuppet investigation, for an uninvolved admin to make a judgement. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:01, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Added to the above investigation. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 20:29, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. Can you explain why you have removed so much information from the Ajax Cape Town article, and practically flipped the article upside down (moving segments around)? I don't understand your logic for removing such big portions of the article. You also removed all interim coaches from the clubs coaching history. But why? If you look up most football clubs coaching history on Wikipedia, the interim coaches are included. Simply because they were present as coach at the club for a duration of time. Why remove it? If you could shed some light as to why you deemed these edits to be necessary, I would appreciate it. Thank you. (Subzzee (talk) 02:48, 15 January 2014 (UTC))

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