User talk:Thunderboltz/Archive 4

Kochi
Okay. I don't think I can contribute much except ask a few questions as someone who comes from a place not too far from Kochi :-) I'll do a close reading from home tonight. Tintin (talk) 10:28, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Some points I raised in PR. One major lack is lack of wikilinks. I created many. Please attend.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * In Robert Bristow, did you mean Suez canal. The article in Akhilavijnanakosam says nothing about it. I had to make calls to my sister in Kerala for the contents of the article :) Tintin (talk) 15:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, looks like it. I'll move that line to part which talks about his 16 years at other ports. Tintin (talk) 15:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

A question. Paliath Achan fought against the British in 1809. If Cochin was under the Dutch till 1814, what were the Brits doing there ? Tintin (talk) 15:13, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I googled a bit after your reply. There might be something interesting here. According to Columbia Encyclopaedia 'The Dutch captured it in 1663 and the British in 1795.' A site on Kerala history says that after the Mysore war of 1799, both Travancore and Kochi 'were forced to accept British residents for the rest of their history'. From here, Travancore had their first resident in 1800. So it looks like that British had some sort of foothold by the very early 1800s. I'll check Britannica and add their POV in the evening. Tintin (talk) 07:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * From Britannica 2004 CD :

''When the Portuguese penetrated the Indian Ocean in the late 15th century and reached India's southwestern coast, the Portuguese navigator Pedro Álvares Cabral founded the first European settlement on Indian soil at Cochin in 1500. Vasco da Gama, discoverer of the sea route to India, established the first Portuguese factory (trading station) there in 1502, and the Portuguese viceroy Afonso de Albuquerque built the first European fort in India there in 1503. The city remained a Portuguese possession until it was conquered by the Dutch in 1663. Much Portuguese architecture still exists in the city.''

''Under Dutch rule (1663–1795) Cochin had its greatest prosperity. Through its harbour were shipped pepper, cardamom, and other spices and drugs as well as coir, coconut, and copra. Allof the city's racial and religious groups, including its Hindu majority and Muslim, Syrian Christian, and Jewish minorities, shared in the city's prosperity.''

''British rule over Cochin lasted from 1795 until 1947, when India became independent. ''

The complete article is at User:Tintin1107/Kochi. Tintin (talk) 17:32, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

>> i hope my reply will make you as confused as I am.

Aha, glad to know that you are confused. I am perpetually at that state myself :)

>> Are you trying to say that there indeed was a British rule in Cochin before the Anglo-Dutch Treaty of 1814 was signed?

Since EB and Columbia states it in a straightforward fashion, they must have been here. It is for us to find out whether they had the complete Cochin under their control, or just some pockets. If it is the former, the treaty might have validated something that had already been accomplished.

>> When did the perumbadapu swaroopam rule in between all this?

No idea what the Portuguese and Dutch did. During the time of the Brits, they were nominally the rulers but paid a sizable amount to the British empire (represented by the Resident) to 'protect' them.The others also may have followed the same model.

Portuguese_Empire says that Cochin was colonized in 1500. They landed here in 1500, so we have to be clear about what we mean by 'ruled from 1503'.

>> And where exactly is this discussion leading us to?

These are little things but the Wiki article is already the best article about Kochi online. People are bound to refer this for info about Cochin and quote our data. We better get all our stuff completely correct ! My in-laws have a book called 'Kochi rajya charithram' by Puthezhathu Raman Menon, but I won't be coming back to Kerala till the last week of May. Do you live anywhere near Mattanchery ? Tintin (talk) 14:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * We should confirm these things from some source (preferably books) before we go for an FAC. I am now in Chennai, originally from Mvpa, and my wife is from Mattanchery. Tintin (talk) 03:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I think they (& Maharajas College Ground) have hosted Nehru Cup football. University college ground in Tvm has hosted two ODIs. Tintin (talk) 05:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

and while you are at peer reviews.
how about putting up South India? --h y dka t 10:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I second that. In fact, South India is probably in a better position than Kochi at present. Kochi will need some copyedit also. Wait for Nichalp's review ;). Bye.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Whooooooosh!!!
Huh! You are working really fast! You turnede so many reds to blue so quickly!!! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

So, I have to ask...
I notice a number of articles created by you recently that deal with... well, individual streets, non-notable companies... train stations? Most of these have no notability asserted and are non-encyclopedic. While I appreciate your efforts to create articles about your home town, and some of the articles you've created meet notability criteria, many of them don't.

For instance, a page on Hight_Court_ferry would be approximately equivalent to my writing an article on a particular marina in Toledo, OH. It would not be something useful to a researcher.

I'd hate to AfD a score of articles; can you establish notability for some of these places? --ES2 15:17, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I hadn't noticed the PR tag when I originally looked at the base article. I think the problem here is balance, as you say, between too many wikilinks and too few wikilinks.  I think the solution is to cut down on the number of things available for linking.  Only the most prominent companies, places (for instance, Park Avenue (Kochi) presumably compares with Park Ave in New York or the Champs-Elysees, or something like that), etc.  Discard the rest, and suddenly you have many fewer excess NN articles.  I'll post something to this extent on the PR page as well. --ES2 15:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes to make Kochi (India) properly readied in response to peer review, Deepujoseph had to built so many stubs. Basically, my advice would be to curb the number of institutes etc from Kochi. Please look at the peer review. There also it has been suggested that you keep the really important institutions, roads, etc rather than a whole bunch of it, each with a link to a stub. If these are non-notable, they do not deserve to be in Kochi article. While if they are notable, they deserve their seperate articles also, and not just one-liner articles.
 * Deepu, I faced similar problems while Kolkata was in peer review and FAC. I had to remove some entries, but I took care that the stubs I am making are not so small. I took time of course. You take time, and go on creating substantial stubs for things that you feel really necessary. If you cannot make a substantial stub for an entry, that entry does not deserve to be in the main article either. But for FAC, you should be ready for any sorta question, which sometimes may include demand for wikilinks. You have to make a balance between really notable stuffs and stuffs that are just mentionable. There is no point making a list of stuffs related to the city. However, take care, what you mention does have a proper stub, if not non-stub articles! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Note
thanks Deepujoseph, its okay. I will read through kochi article and give further inputs if possible. thanks Robin klein 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. I think most of all we all need to give thanks and respect to Kjrajesh for publishing a fine photograph of a woman in mundum neriyathum and also thank the woman whom he photographed. Now she has come to represent thousands of years of tradition and beauty. Thanks and greatest respect to her and Kjrajesh. Robin klein 14:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

My RFA
Hi ,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future. BTW you may be interested in the recent developments at Talk:Ajith.

Cheers

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  )  08:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Pictures of ancient Kochi
User talk:Joaopais provided this link which contains maps of the 18th century Cochin. Please see whether there are any appropriate for the article. Tintin (talk) 19:42, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't remind me...
I've had asthama since childhood. I have consistently refused to have a live fish stuffed down my throat despite however much my mother insists it'll cure me :(

The Goud brothers have been holding this fish swallowing event every year, sometime late summer.... Apparently they are following their father's footsteps cause this event has been held for the last fifty years. Until recently these guys used to be supplied with fish by the fisheries department. But when a few newspapers questioned the treatment and someone filed a PIL against the brothers the government stopped helping them. The brothers are really not concerned actually. They don't make a profit (usually spending a lot of their own money every year...) and the crowds are only growing bigger every year. It seems as far as they are concern they are doing a religious family obligation given to them by some saint.

They keep their paste formula a close family secret, with the only known fact being the type of fish they use. Its a very small fish (I not sure of the type) I don't know if the treatment is effective or not, but with 5 lakh(and counting) annual visitors its pretty good for the local tourist industry! --h y dka t 04:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Problem with commercial links at Sari
Some of the links there ARE commercial links. To information pages, not sale pages, but still commercial. If we erase those, we have nothing but some pages put up by an American who pretends to be be a Bharatnatyam dancer at Society for Creative Anachronism gatherings. We really need more pictures and more good, non-commercial sari sites. Zora 06:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Plachimada.jpg
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 * Thanks for removing the image from the article, and from withdrawing the FARC nom. I really appreciate it. :) Johnleemk | Talk 16:42, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Is this how I talk? :-) Sorry for being so noobiesh about this, but I just love Wikipedia and can't stand it being hurt.

I've edited the Kakkanad article a bit. Hope I didn't do anything wrong. anirudh 18:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC) | Talk

no problem...I was out-of-station too... :-) I will do the best I can. Thanks a lot...

anirudh 07:34, 20 May 2006 (UTC) | Talk

Dholavira Ancient Metropolitan city and your contribution.
Thank you for your visit to Dholavira and contribution. vkvora 02:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Malayalm
Hey are you Malayali, because I am too! I added to the Asianet and Manthrakodi articles if you want to check them out! —Preceding unsigned comment added by LardmanHusky (talk • contribs)

Eh dere chum.
How did you become interested in me? Are you watching the rocket page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Umshaad (talk • contribs)

Killer
My organization touched the lives of some 1,000 people over the past 11 years, I feel it deserves some recognition. - and some rejunvenation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Umshaad (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the welcome.
Hi Deepu (or do I call you Joseph),

Thanks for the welcome. And yes, I do intend to stay for a long time trying to make this a better place to gain knowledge. So what did I do that made you take notice, or do you welcome all new users personally to Wikipedia.

Keep in touch. --Bolasanibk 10:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay
Hey! Sorry for the delay in responding to your request for a review of the Kochi article. I had gone home (to KOratty) and even otherwise I can only do any Wiki'ing on the weekends - if I'm lucky. I'm no expert on Kochi - have been there only a few times.

Incidently you and I share the same first-two names - mine is Deepak & Joseph and ofcourse people shorten Deepak to Deepu!

--Veliath 15:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

FIRST EDIT
G'day User:Deepujoseph, Thankyou for your welcome message, until now i have had some troubles navigating the editing side of wiki. For instance i notice on your user page, you have the date of your first edit..... how do i find out such things about me? if possible please reply to my talk page. cheers Wiki ian 08:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * thankyou my friend, one last question, i saw a user's profile's userbox that they're a deletionist, is there a Inclusionist userbox in existancee, and how do u navigate userboxes to choose from cheers Wiki ian 12:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

And very soon after i found it and the category i needed. a case of panicking before i look. sorry for wasting your time. Cheers Wiki ian 13:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

SECOND EDIT
Joseph, thankyou for all all your help on my requests. i have 3 more questions i hope you can answer for me. 1. Where is the Wikipedia help page on constructing a Sidebar for things like Cities, bands, and albums? 2. What are the factors involved, in getting contents bars on pages that are constructed(or is it just automatic)? 3. On most album pages in Wikipedia i visit, they have profssional reviews (with 5 star ratings) in their side bars, how would one go about researching professional reviews for the sidebar of the desired album i wish to create? Once again thankyou. Wiki ian 09:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * replying to your request for more information on my 3rd question. If you look on one of the bottom tabs of album sidebars like Jar of Flies and Wolfmother (album) you see professional comments rating the albums 1 out of 5 stars.In my case i can find reviews but nothing that actually rates 1 out of 5. is there an alternative to displaying the 5 star format? if so what is it? if not where is the best place to look for reviews with such ratings? Cheers Wiki ian 10:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * ''Hello again my friend, can you take a look at New Detention and tell me what i've done wrong with the sidebar, i cant seem to get the alternative cover under the sidebar. Or is more information needed on the page before it will move under the main infobox? Cheers mate. Wiki ian 05:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Disregard that comment, another case of panicking before i look. Wiki ian 05:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

THIRD EDIT
Joseph, once again thankyou for all your assistance with Wikipedia. I hope i am not bothering you asking your help on such topics. i have 2 more questions. 1 on user talk pages and discussion pages i notice next to their signiture it sais in brackets (talk) and sometimes (talk|contributions), what do i type to make these appear in my signiture(as all i do at the momment is cut and paste from examples). 2 The more of Wikipedia I explore the more i see examples of advanced editing, and the only way i know how to replicate them is cut & paste, is there a help section on advanced editing within Wikipedia. example, your signiture has differewnt fonts and font colours, how do learn things like this without having to ask you all the time. Thankyou for all of your time. Wiki ian 00:56, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Malayalam
Thanks a lot for all those links...i would love to write on the malayalam pages..but i can't write malayalam as well as i can read and speak it...(I was born in America...but I do visit Kerala every other year or so)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by LardmanHusky (talk • contribs)

Hi Deepu
Hello Deepu: Thank you for your mail. I see you have started many articles. I have contributed a few though. How is it like in Kochi, warm and nice days in the summer? Here in Bay area the summer started and it is nice.

Good luck with your contribution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdr2004 (talk • contribs)

Contents sections
Hey, it's one of your newest guys on the crew.

I was about to write an article when I realised I needed more know-how on making one. If you have time to tell me how to make a contents link that would be great.

Cya... 10widdse 02:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Kochi
What is the Gundu island mentioned here ? Does it still exist under the same name ? Tintin (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Passed the question to Nichalp. He is the expert. Tintin (talk) 05:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * They are fairuse. See this reply Tintin (talk) 06:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I do not know where I can refer you for reading the advanteges of citeweb and citenews. From my own experirence, those are much extensive, and are automatically formatted (italicised as needed, dates hyperlinked) once you fill up the template. Moreover, during the FAC of Kolkata, someone raised the question of proper formatting of references. After that, the references there had to be changed to those format. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I just saw the article Kochi. I must say that the referencing may look good, but not perfect. Because, they do not give date of retrival (date when the URL was accessed). This is needed, as URLs can change over time. However, if one has the date of accessing, one can see the cached image of the URL, or retrieve from the Internetarchive. Also, IMo, some citations lacked the name of the author.

If you want to know my opinion, I would like to see health care in Kochi. However, if you want the opinion of Wikipedia, you should remove it as per Wikiproject Indian cities. There was some talks going on regarding introducing some flexibilities in that project, however, for the time being you should follow it, as the criteria for FA requires following of relevant project.

Some points: History still is lacking by 40 years! Economy may need summarisation, with creation of a daughter article. You should wikilink any person/places you name in the article- thats not a rule, but gradually FACs are becoming strict! The idea is if something/someone is worth mentioning in an FA, it shoiuld at least have a stub article for himself/itself. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanx heaps
Hey, thanx for all the help on contents sections. I was about to write an article on lollybombs. Me and my brother recently invented them and I wanted to write an article on it with the convenience of a contents section. Thanx for all the help you've given me, I realy appriciate it.

From 10widdse 01:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Request
Hey, it's 10widdse again, sorry if I keep croudin the page. I am doing a biography on the life of frederick barbarossa I, meaning redbeard. I ckecked wikipedia articles which were good but there wasn't much info on his daily life and not even on other search engines. If you or any other wikipedians had the time to write an article on him that would be truly great.

Cya, 10widdse (talk) 01:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Kochi
Thanks. It's coming along nicely. Keep it up. Saravask 04:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Man
Hi ThanK you for your welcome and sincere guidelines.i am a newborn to this community and look forward to your support in future. Creamlayer 11:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)Creamlayer

Thanks for writing to me.
Hi Deepu,

Thanks for writing to me. I'm new to Wikipedia and am still learning but I'm intend to contribute a lot of content and information on this especially related to India, Indian tourism and travel to india.

Regards

Akhilesh

India as an emerging superpower
Thanks for your help with this article. It's very frustrating working with these articles, but I have a natural interest in them. Sometimes it's caused clashes between the Indian community and the Chinese Wikipedian Community.  Noble eagle  (Talk)  07:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Inclusion of Hindi
Hi Deepu, I don't personally have a problem with its inclusion, but we are trying to get Indian cities' pages to conform to Wikiproject Indian cities, which states that only the local language translation need be added to the article. Hope that clarifies. Regards AreJay 12:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Chakara
Well, I am the only source at present as I belong to that region :-). The local newspapers there would carry the news every year. It is a small event not very well known in Tulu Nadu itself. However, I am not sure if I got the name correct. It has been almost a decade since I left that place. And not many of my acquaintances there aware of that event.

Manjunatha (25 May 2006)

accuracy of wikipedia articles
Hey Deepu,

Thanks for suggesting that I become a registered member. I am just about to sign up.

Anyways, I'm quite curious how Wikipedia makes sure the articles are accurate.

I was reading an article on recent anti-reservation demonstrations and found that the article mentioned "T.B.Chandrahari" instead of "V. P. Singh" as India's PM of 1989. Looks like some guy named Chandrahari had played mischief with the article.

How is this monitored?

Thanks,

Nipun


 * All of us registered wikipedians have included certain pages in our watch list. We monitor these pages often, and check all the changes that are made. If any inconsistency is noted, people will either edit it and correct the mistake (as you have done - thanks! [[Image:smile.gif|20px]]), or flag it was possibly inaccurate data using different methods available on wikipedia (this includes usage of templates). The anti-reservation page was just created yesterday, and it went through a lot of editing in one day itself, as it appeared in the news section on the main page. The accuracy of articles here on wikipedia cant be guaranteed fully. See General disclaimer. However there are hundreds of registered and unregistered people working behind each of these articles, and we strive to make it as accurate as possible. Also, you might have noticed that each page has a talk or discussion page, where you can discuss stuff with other wikipedians. All these measures help keep out the errors as much as possible. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu _ Joseph 04:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Kochi further
Hi! I see you are working extensively on Kochi. When you think you are finished, let it be known in the peer review. Its really wonderful to see Indian articles getting readied for FAC. Ahmedabad is also on its way. Right now two sure FAs in FAC (Patel and IIT). Seems we would reach half century within this year! Regards. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwaipayanc (talk • contribs)

Thanks
Deepu,

Thanks for dropping me a note and your assistance. I will do through those pages when I have time between now and the beginning of the World Cup. Once the World Cup begins, I will be among the many who will try to keep World Cup related pages as current as possible.

Again, thanks.

Michael Taichung, Taiwan

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Rewording needed: India as an emerging superpower
I just listed those POVs/ORs on the talk page, thanks again! 219.79.29.47 18:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, if you like the power-related articles I hope you would take a look at People's Republic of China as an emerging superpower. For some reason it seems that Indians and Chinese try to push their POV on each other, leaving the European Union to its ultimately very peaceful rise. I actually made a promise to some of the Chinese people that I won't edit on the articles for a week or so, so I can't revert any of the POV.  Noble eagle  (Talk)  05:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

GCDA etc
Not sure where to look. Do they put any big ads about themselves in the newspapers when they start big projects ? I'll make the usual phonecall to see whether Akhilavijnanakosam contains anything.

Brought Kochi Rajyacharithram by KP Padmanabhamenon (not Puthezhathu Raman Menon as mentioned earlier). It seems to contain everything that we need to know about early history. First published in 1914. A small book - just 852 pages. I hope to finish it by the end of 2007. Tintin (talk) 09:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll start reading *sigh* Tintin (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I am not able to read the Malayalam font in my browsers but this is what Menon says in p.575 (rough translation) : ''On August 18, 1790, Mr Powney (not sure who he is) informed the British govt that the King of Cochin had agreed to accept the dominance of the British, in place of Tipu. But the treaty between the Brit govt and the King was written on January 6, 1791 (the word used in the place of 'written' is 'ezuthi pakarnnu'). There had been discussions with Powney as early as in 1789 about a treaty with the British. This was the first treaty between Perumpatappu swaroopam and the British''. The next three pages describe the treaty. In it the British agrees to recover the areas conquered by Tipu, and the King agrees to pay Rs. 70,000, 80K, 90K for the first three years and 1 lakh from the fourth year onwards.

I'll try to see what happened till 1814. Tintin (talk) 18:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

To continue the story, with some help from History_of_the_Netherlands, France invaded Holland in 1795 and William V of Orange fled to England. From there, he issued a proclamation giving away the Dutch posessions in the East for 'safekeeping' with the English who were the allies of the Dutch. The Cochin fort was under the Dutch governor J.N. Van Spall at the time. When the British 77th company under Major G Petrie came to take posession, he refused to give up the fort. The standoff lasted for a few months. On October 19, 1795, Petrie brought more soldiers and ammunitions for an attack. When a cannonball landed near the residence of Van Spall, he raised the white flag. The fort came under the control of the British on October 20, 1795.

The treaty of 1814 passed the control of the fort etc. (the book uses the word 'kochi kottayum keezhetangalum - not sure what the last word means) permanently to the British. So the years 1791, 1795 and 1814 are all correct to some extent. Tintin (talk) 01:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Changing username
Hi deepu,

It's 10widdse, when I originally signed in the first thing that popped in my head my my shcool login account. I wanted to knw how you could help me change my name because it sounds really gay and nerdy. Can I change my user account name or do I have to make a new account and advertise my new one on this account?

10widdse (talk) 02:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Username changed
Hi deepu, 10widdse here, (not highlighted because name will change). I've believe my account has been changed from 10widdse to SepticRanga. If you need a reply remember to contact SepticRanga instead of my old one.

Cya! 10widdse 02:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC) (talk)

Joshna Chinappa article
I was browsing through and saw the Joshna Chinappa article. I felt that this sort of sounds odd.

'''Joshna Chinappa (born 1986) is a squash player based in Chennai India who used to coach at the India Cements Academy until her father made her quit it. Instead of thanking the Academy she ungreatfully said that they had never coached her, a fact which is false and can be checked by reading any of the back issues of the Hindu newspaper online.'''

I was looking at the article to see who Joshna Chinappa is. I dunno anything about her. But, the article sounded odd. What should be done? I started the talk page on it and wrote Should this be reworded?. Is that what I should have done? Or is it ok to go ahead and reword it myself?

anirudh 16:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will be bolder in future. :-) anirudh 16:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

quiz
Yes that George Sudarshan was great stuff. Sorry for dpoiling your planned question ;) I stumbled upon this Bhabha thing accidentally a few days back. George Sudarshan was missing in List of Indian Americans! I just added him. How is Kochi going?--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Unwanted tips
You should concentrate on building up daughter articles (demographics, economy, culture etc.). Write in the daughter articles in details. Summarise in Kochi. This works good. Also, if someone else tries to summarise/edit, it would prove to be helpful. As many number of wikilinks as possible is a good way for city articles, since it becomes often difficult to finalise what to leave in the main article.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

more unwanted stuff
Kochi looks really good! Should be there in FAC soon. However, some daughter articles may be needed. And an invaluable suggestion, request for a quick look. He can point out stuffs we cannot even think of. I see you have sacked healthcare quite mercilessly, where have all those link gone? Have you created any direct link in the article? For example, under economy, you can state that Kochi has a flourishing health care industry, and wikilink "health care industry" to a daughter article, say, "healthcare in Kochi" that will discuss all those hospitals (a stub article, no probs). I see you have the mention of health services, but that links to "medical tourism". A few points:
 * inward remittances by Non Resident Indians (NRI) is a major source of income: may be hard to understand at one go fot non-Indian readers.
 * IMO, in Transport, intra-city transport should be given slightly more space, may be at the cost of national/international transport. Is there local trains? Is there only private buses, no govt buses? Any special kind of transport?(ok, I see ferry is there)
 * There are 1,024 females to every 1,000 males - – which is higher than the national average. - is there any reason behind this?
 * what is the status of communal harmony on the city?
 * I see the article does not say major things about the "Utility services" like who supplies water from where? Where does wastes go? Electricity?
 * Culture: What about films, architecture (any speciality?), any museum? There is a notion that Kerala produces a good portion of Indian porn movies - is it so? is the Malayalam movie industry based in Kochi? Any menrionable non-religious festival? Ok I see Kochi carnival (should wikilink that).
 * You can name 2 or 3 famous colleges.
 * What's the most popular sport? Cricket or football? or something else? Any special local game?

I think that's enough. You must be cross at me by now ;) Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Untitled Ajith/Asin Project
I have copied this formatting from Bollywood movies such as Untitled Mani Ratnam/Aamir Khan Project and Untitled Batman Begins Sequel. The page will be moved as soon as a title is discovered. Prin S 11:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Kochi
I'll reply in a few days time because Hyder Ali's story is a 40 page chapter and I won't be around for most of this week, but it doesn't look like he reached anywhere near Kochi. There are a couple of mentions of Kochi making payments to him in 1765 and 1766 but as far as I can find in a quick glance, Chittoor in Palghat is the closest to Kochi that he came. Hyderali seemed to be in good terms with the Dutch.

How does literacy affect sex ratio ? Because that leads to girl children not being discriminated against and as women have a longer life expectancy ? Tintin (talk) 16:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Re welcome
Thank you so much for the nice welcome. Someonebay 03:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Not changing name afterall
Hi Deepu,

It seems that changing my name was just a hastle, just wanted to tell you that Im not gonna change my name to SepticRanga anymore. I'll remain 10widdse like my school account and help to make articles and all that jazz.

10widdse 04:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)(talk)

:-((
Have you had a look at my talk page? especially the last message? --h y dka t 10:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello & Thanks
Hi deepu. I am Sidharth. I stay at Panampilly Nagar. Where do you stay? Thanks for the welcome. And you doing a very good job keeping kerala alive on wiki.! :) My msn is si_du_de@hotmail.com. Please add me and we can chat. Thanks for the tips..

Yours Faithfully Sidharth.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drunkendude (talk • contribs)

Transport in Kochi
Brilliant contribution, Deepu! Enjoyed reading it. Cheers -- Samir  धर्म 06:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see now that it was moved from the Kochi article and that you are adding more. Look forward to the additions. -- Samir   धर्म 06:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, was RC patrolling. Kochi (India) is well on the way to WP:FA; you've developed it so much since I last looked at it some 2 or 3 months ago!  Cheers -- Samir   धर्म 06:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)