User talk:Tide rolls/Archive 39

Hello Tide rolls.
Hello the only reason I edited that section was because when it comes to musical notes the post is false. I thought It was okay to edit something Wikipedia does allow people to make Edits right, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.254.161 (talk) 01:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You thought correctly; you were allowed to make your edit. And your edit removed cited content.  Is hould've noted your edit summary, though.  If you have a source (see Identifying reliable sources) that refute the content you removed, then state the facts you found and cite them (see WP:Citation templates). Regards  Tide  rolls  01:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello again Tide rolls
I wasn't aware you had to do all that to edit a page with Reference. Couldn't I just replace it with other referenced material — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.254.161 (talk) 01:26, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe that is what I said. Did you read the pages linked in my message above?  Tide  rolls  01:29, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok
Well give me a chance to add the reference material. I have no idea why you change it back so fast — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.254.161 (talk) 01:43, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * References first, then add content. Not the other way 'round.   Tide  rolls  01:46, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Please block
He already had a Lv4 warning. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  02:15, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I cannot, apologies.  Tide  rolls  02:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't know that you are not an admin. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  02:27, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. I appreciate that you would come to me for help. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  02:29, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Of course. Bribery's not necessary...but I do appreciate the barnstar :)  See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  03:19, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Bribery? Nah, I'd give you a kitten if I wanted to bribe you. :P MJ94 (talk) 06:23, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Malaysian TV
This is my second beg to unlock all Malaysian articles TV1 (Malaysia) TV2 (Malaysia) TV3 (Malaysia) ntv7 Television in Malaysia Radio Televisyen Malaysia. I hate the "continuos temporary lock".--125.25.208.9 (talk) 11:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The articles to which you refer have been the targets for continuous disruptive editing. It may be possible that the disruption will cease and the articles could remain unprotected in the future.  Based on past experience I find that possibility highly unlikely.  In the meantime, you can add edit requests to the talk pages of the articles by using the template found at Template:Edit semi-protected.  You could also register an account and, after the account meets the criteria for auto-confimation, edit the articles which are semi-protected.  I see that you are adding content that is not supported by sources and have been reverted in many instances.  You may find it helpful to acquaint yourself with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines before continuing.  Regards  Tide  rolls  03:39, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I keep an eye on a lot of those articles (I add to my list as I find them) because I started following the edits when the ip(s) who hits them hit a film article I watch (which gets hit in every round along with several Malay TV articles). I'm waiting for another round or two of the overlinking, poor english IP (likely a sock of Albert20009) to around to confirm this, but I believe there is a semi-consistent pattern to the timing.  Not positive; in school I had a really good eye for number patterns but I'm out of practice so my instincts may be off.  But since I know you've dealt with this problem in the past, Tide, I'd planned on letting you know if I found anything conclusive.


 * Also, the IP in question (the potential sock) has started changing up the IPs they edit under. He/she still frequently turns up under the 125.162 range but he's also started turning up under a different range (can't recall specifically).  Final Destination 3 is a pretty good article to keep an eye out for him on; he doesn't always hit it when he comes in but nearly every time.  Millahnna (talk) 03:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, Millahnna. I do appreciate the help that you (and others) have provided by watching those articles.  I actually had taken those articles off my watchlist, but the interest shown by this current set of dynamic IPs has convinced me to re-add them.  I will certainly be approaching the admins that watch the RFP page if our friend should reappear.  If you see the problems first and take care of the situation, then I say "good job".  It is entirely possible that those individuals will become bored and leave the articles alone.  I hope that is the case, anyway.  See ya 'round   Tide  rolls  04:13, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey Tide
Long time, no see. You alright? You gave up the bit? I hope you're ready for Florida. Come watch at our house, we got a new (big) TV. Drmies (talk) 03:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Things are good here, mostly. Thanks for asking. I hope you and yours are doing well. Yeah, I did not feel that I was as effective as I should've been as an admin. So many folks expressed their confidence at my RfA and I felt they deserved more than I was capable of providing. I'll content myself with my fake editing and hope that I can, at least, prove helpful as a vandalism scrubber :) Roll Tide  Tide  rolls  04:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Inquiry
Whats with deleting my post? Its a really underground band but that doesnt mean i cant write about it!!!! Horrifyinghouseguest69 (talk) 06:42, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

why did you delete my articles!!!! Horrifyinghouseguest69 (talk) 06:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Only administrators can delete articles.  Tide  rolls  06:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

SERIOUSLY
wtf!!!! DONT DELETE STUFF THAT YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT Horrifyinghouseguest69 (talk) 06:51, 30 September 2011 (UTC) OKAY FINE BUT DONT PUT IT ON SPEED DELETE LIST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horrifyinghouseguest69 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ease up on the capslock; it's really not that impressive.  Tide  rolls  06:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

frank zappa
hello tide my article i added to zappas honor and acclaim is actual fact. you can you tube my visit... frank zappa's memorial sept 18--Bobby marquis 07:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby marquis (talk • contribs)

frank zappa
hello tide with all respect my addition to frank zappas grave in the honor and acclaims is truth. go you tube and search frank zappa's memorial sept 18th — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby marquis (talk • contribs) 07:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, Bobby...thanks for coming here to discuss the situation. You're slightly missing the point, which is understandable as you are new. "Actual fact" and "reliably sourced, notable content" are separate, but not mutually exclusive, concepts on Wikipedia.  If you read WP:Notability and WP:Identifying reliable sources you will have a better grasp of what I'm attempting to communicate.  Also, editors are not allowed to use their personal experience, observation or work (blogs, videos, books, print articles, etc) to support their edits.  To do so constitutes original research, and Wikipedia relies on secondary sources (mainly) to support its content.  I'll be happy to go into furhter detail or provide more information if need be.  Also, please type four tildes (~) at the end of your posts to afix your signature.  Regards  Tide  rolls  08:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Frank Zappa's memorial September 18, 2011. AVI you tube — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby marquis (talk • contribs) 08:07, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

ok tide..thx for the info..i'll sleep on it..lol its 4 a.m..feel free to watch the vid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby marquis (talk • contribs) 08:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Watching the video is not necessary because I believe you. My belief is irrelevant, however. Without independant, secondary sourcing and some rationale of notability, the content cannot be added. You can also seek the advice of other editors by posting a message on the article's talk page.  Frank Zappa is a featured article, so I'm sure the talk page is quite active.  Regards  Tide  rolls  08:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Nominating Patrick Eakins for deletion
Hi,

Thanks for nominating Patrick Eakins for deletion. This has been deleted, but for a different reason than the one you nominated it for. The article was defamatory against the article subject, and as such should have been categorised as WP:CSD, as an attack page. It is very important that the correct categories are used, as attack pages/negative BLPs are considered top priority and are usually deleted in minutes. Non-notable articles can hang around for several hours as admins wade through the (usually) lengthy list of nominated articles.

If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page.

Thanks, Stephen! Coming... 09:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

frank zappa
hello tide can you give me another editors' name? i've read your info. the only secondary person i know that could verify my source is Zappas' sister who is currently writing a book, " My Brother was a Mother" Vol.2. or friend Shirley Fisher who was present at the grave. maybe i need to be walked thru this step by step. yes, i am new to this, but i might be missing something — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby marquis (talk • contribs) 14:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Bobby, I was wrong about the Frank Zappa discussion page; it appears that it is not very active. The article is rated as top importance for Wikipedia's Rock Music Project.  There seems to be more activity there; you can get to that page by clicking here.  I'm at work so I'm just giving you a suggestion for a place to start.  In about 10 hours I will be able to give you a more in depth response.  Thanks for your patience.  Tide  rolls  15:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

so.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by NYPDBLUE87 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Television Corporation of Singapore RFPP
Hi. I saw your request for long-term semi-protection of this and other articles, but I'm a bit confused because a quick check of the various IP addresses' talk pages didn't seem to indicate that the user had ever been warned about his/her misbehaviour. I put a warning just now on User talk:180.251.2.245, advising him/her of the editing guideline about (not) wikilinking dates. If you believe this has already been tried and I must have missed it, I'd be grateful if you could send me more details. Rich wales (talk) 03:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I certainly understand your desire to follow accepted convention. However, if you followed the link provided in the request you would've seen that contacting the IPs in the past produce zero response.  I have come to a point where my assumption of good faith with regard to this situation is exhausted.  It would be a good thing if you succeed in extracting some dialogue from this individual.  See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  04:01, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies, Rich. It's late here and I just realized you requested some indication that communication had been attempted.  This would be difficult as the IPs in question change with every instance and had come from the 125 range previously.  As my initial acquaintance with this situation occured nealy a year ago it would very difficult for me to go back through my contributions and locate the attempts I made to contact the IPs.  If you check the hatted section in the link on the RFPP you will see that the user changes IPs often.  If you require the diffs for my attempts at contact I will, of course, go into my contribs and search.  Thanks   Tide  rolls  04:20, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. No need to go do that now.  I'll take another look at all this later, when I have more time.  I'll also keep an eye on this article and some of the others.   Rich wales (talk) 04:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks  Tide  rolls  04:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've semi'd this article and some of the others on the list. I've halted for now because a) he's stopped for now and b) I'd like to see if we can get a range of IPs, perhaps for a range block. I hate to protect articles that have only had a few small edits since they were protected at the end of March, but I have zero tolerance for this kind of crap. I'd even be willing to block the guy after one more warning to whatever IP he's using next. He knows what he's doing and that we don't like it, and that's enough for me. I'm healthy to the point where I can be an active admin again, so feel free to let me know when he resumes the insanity. :-)  K rakatoa    K atie   05:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I completely understand your hesitation regarding protecting articles with no apparent need. Bringing the articles to RFPP as problems occur presents me with no problem whatsoever.  I have been watching these articles for some time and my outlook for a happy future for them is definitely jaded.  There are a few editors (see one of the sections above) watching these pages, but fresh eyes are very welcome.  Thanks for all your help.   Tide  rolls  05:16, 2 October 2011 (UTC) I posted to your talk before I saw your message here...excuse the unneeded duplication

Tfd: Facepalm

 * See WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 October 3
 * ... Goodness, gracious, great balls of fire~! -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 18:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeedy. I recall great brouhahas regarding custom sigs, userboxes and barnstars in my early days here (and I'm sure the brouhahas I witnessed were not the first surrounding these practices as I am relatively new).  Mostly involving the same arguments pro and con: building an encyclopedia vs encouraging collegial atmosphere and uplifting morale.  It always came down to a final point.  Either we totally divest the project of every speck of non-constructive contribution (think about the enormity of that task), or we put up with an occasional bit of non-conventional interaction in the interest of "we have more important matters to worry about".  I can sympathize with both positions.  I also have a custom sig...and four userboxes...and a menagerie of barnstars (which I modestly collapse on my user page so the purists don't burst an aneurysm).  Another cathartic reflex has occurred...now, we have more important matters to worry about...don't we? :)  See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  00:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your insight, now I really understand how you feel. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 05:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Huggle problem
You might want to see about an apparent Huggle problem that caught you up in it. Dougweller (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Every time a vandal is allowed to edit after being reported to AIV, God kills a kitten
I know what the answer is, but I miss your absolute first-rate ability to cover WP:AIV which has been spotty lately, to say the least. I've gone three out of the last four nights seeing a space of half an hour or more where vandals have run unopposed because no admins have been covering the AIV desk. Any chance you are one day considering taking that 'ol mop back up? Please, think of the kittens. Trusilver 21:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm really not looking that far ahead. It's likely that by the time I want to consider the possibility the process for re-entry will have changed.  It can be frustrating on this side of the fence but I delt with it before, I'll deal with it now.  See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  23:08, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I pity the kittens... -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 01:44, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

New section
OOOPS, sorry tideroll, i didnt realise I was doing anything wrong, and thought that was how you commented on pages, I was bored. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.9.88.238 (talk) 01:04, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Titan_(moon) edits
no problemo! best regards Lanephil (talk) 23:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Speed is an illusion...but, I appreciate the recognition and your help with RC. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  00:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Edits to Green Mountain College
Hello there,

You just reverted my changes to the page Green Mountain College and called them vandalism. I am not sure why, all I was doing was updating the majors and minors and adding a section for student clubs. I attend the school and I even cited reliable sources (the school's website and online academic catalog). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.158.108.234 (talk) 00:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Check the diffs and you will see that what you claim is not exactly accurate. You may have been editing in good faith and I will certainly apologize if that is the case. And please sign your posts with the four tildes.  Thanks  Tide  rolls  00:33, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I looked at the revisions and now realize that only the first word of each title should be capitalized, but what is wrong with the information under education about majors and minors? Also, I am not sure what the four tildes means, but I have now created and logged onto an account to avoid any confusion concerning the school IP address. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itoldheriwasfreaky (talk • contribs) 00:51, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Read WP:Signatures. I'm disappointed in your reply.  You make no mention of the space inserted in "College".  That makes me doubt your sincerity.  Tide  rolls  00:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I apologize. I have another set revision ready to post and I have removed that space in the revision. I never meant to put a space between "C" and "ollege" in the first place. I am just waiting to know whether there is something wrong with the other corrections I had made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itoldheriwasfreaky (talk • contribs) 01:01, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I mean the "Colleg" and "e". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itoldheriwasfreaky (talk • contribs) 01:03, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * "Never meant to"?...sell that somewhere else, I ain't buyin'. Post here without signing again and I will not respond further.  Tide  rolls  01:06, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I've never actually edited a post on Wikipedia before. I merely wanted to make some constructive additions to my college's page. Is this the correct way to sign a post? - itoldheriwasfreaky — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itoldheriwasfreaky (talk • contribs) 01:14, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the help with leaving a signature. --Itoldheriwasfreaky (talk) 01:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Sort of an explanation
I thought that since a TRUE fact was not said, it was said in the page the early life section of steven tyler's page, I would include it on the roosevelt high school page. i am a kid that actually knows about steven tyler and the beatles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.161.29 (talk) 01:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You will find helpful information by reading WP:Truth and WP:No original research. Regards   Tide  rolls  01:53, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Bear Bryant
Thought I should let you know I'll be making more reversions here - see the first line in your reverts. Calabe1992 (talk) 01:59, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the consideration, but I say be bold...go forth and edit!  Tide  rolls  02:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Calabe1992 (talk) 02:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ...and good work. Thanks for the back-up.   Tide  rolls  02:36, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

irlen syndrome
Irlen Syndrome is a condition which impacts on some people quite severely. In the article there was an unreferenced statement that major medical bodies in the USA do not believe people really suffer those symptoms. Do you not feel this is potentially very hurtful to a lot of people with this condition? I removed it because I reckon if someone is going to make such an assertion they should back it up with sources, and not just make a bald statement and leave it at that. The person who put that hurtful comment in, clearly doesn't understand the condition, and has mistaken a dispute over the pathology (cause and behaviour) with whether it actually exists. Sources supporting that the dispute is over pathology and not existence of the condition are referenced in the same article and so support what I am saying. I also took out another short paragraph because it seemed to be accusing people of being snakeoil salespeople with again no evidence. It was just a rant. I think my edits were fair, and I ask you to reconsider. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.92.47 (talk) 22:26, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your polite message. Let me say first that I do not think I have edited the article to which you are referring.  I would also agree, after a very cursory look, with your assessment of the circumstances.  To be fair, I would invite other editors to comment of course.  The best place for comment is the article's talk page; if you would want my comments there I would be happy to oblige if I am able.  If you have any questions or need more information on procedures or processes, let me know.  Regards  Tide  rolls  23:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for the recognition, Luke. As you know, this is a team effort and my contribution would be meaningless without the help of many volunteers.  It's good to know there are editors, such as yourself, willing to pitch in and help.  See ya 'round   Tide  rolls  01:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Keep the faith
I'm doing my bit for the team. Drmies (talk) 04:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, you don't live in Mobile, do you? Through chance (i.e., bad luck) I'm going to have to watch the game down there. Drmies (talk) 04:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Technically, no, but near enough to call it home. "bad luck"?...lol...spending time in our fair village should be considered a godsend =P  Tide  rolls  04:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, watching the AL game in a hotel room, that's fun. I got a 50+ inch screen at home, and more beer than you could drink in a week. Drmies (talk) 04:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I see your point. I would invite you to watch it here, but seriously, the hotel room would be a  better venue...lol.  If you're interested in alternatives; .  I've not been there but it's managed by a friend of mine who wouldn't associate himself with anything second rate.  Tide  rolls  04:44, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Clarify
I'm so confused...I see you have a successful RfA and your account was given the sysop right. Now your account doesn't have it, but there's nothing in your user rights log that shows it was removed...it just says: (del/undel) 18:36, 20 July 2011 Bsadowski1 (talk | contribs | block) changed rights for User:Tide rolls from (none) to rollbacker ‎ (Requested by user)

(del/undel) 16:51, 19 May 2010 Juliancolton (talk | contribs | block) changed rights for User:Tide rolls from rollbacker and administrator to administrator ‎ (the rest of us only get the one flag!)

(del/undel) 13:14, 19 May 2010 Nihonjoe (talk | contribs | block) changed rights for User:Tide rolls from rollbacker to rollbacker and administrator ‎ (per Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tide rolls)

What happened to the administrator bit on your account? This is one of those "I thought he was one..." situations. =P Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 08:55, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I answered my own question...this was before the locally removing it had been enabled...nevermind. =P Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 08:58, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

M*****f******
I know you have delicate strings I don't have. I have a half a bottle of vodka, on an eleventh-story balcony overlooking the Gulf, and the bar downstairs was already filled with purple and yellow people. I don't have anything else than that bottle. Take care, and Roll Tide, Drmies (talk) 03:56, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Roll Tide, Professor. Hard fought battle...the sting of defeat will ease with time.  Tide  rolls  04:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC) ...no need to censor yourself on this page; considering the important subject at hand.