User talk:Tillman/Archive 2

Pictures
Thanks for uploading so many pictures, but based on the postings above, it looks like you're not fully aware of the restrictions. Ijust saw the Ansel Adams portrait you uploaded, which has a restiction against commercial use. All material on Wikipedia must be freely available for all users, including commercial ones. If you could be more discriminating in the future you'd save everyone the time of dealing with inelibile images. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 01:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I certainly empathize with your frustration. Numerous editors have butted heads over this policy. Nonetheless, it is a foundational issue for Wikipedia and it's not likely to change. Old photographs (pre-1928), photos with generous licenses (sometimes found on Flicker), and photos we take ourselves appear to be the best sources. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tillman, regarding your uploads of images under a "non-commercial" license, WP:CSD doesn't prohibit them as long as they have a valid fair-use rationale and that they meet the 10 criteria in WP:NFCC. Non-commercial licensed images are only speedily deleted if they don't have a valid fair-use rationale. But since your uploads had a rationale, I've removed the speedy deletion tags. Spellcast (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks -- I thought they were the REGULAR CC 3.0 license, not the non-commercial. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 01:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * Tag removed -- bot error. See image talk page, Pete Tillman (talk) 16:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Theodore Roosevelt Lake edit
Thanks for your edit to the Roosevelt Lake article. I'm pretty sure "Lake Roosevelt" is an alternate (though less common) name for the lake, so I re-added it to the lede ("sometimes Lake Roosevelt" to emphasize that "Roosevelt Lake" is more common; I also left your other edits intact). I've explained further on the talk page. Just wanted to let you know! &bull; WarpFlyght (talk &bull; contribs) 23:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:MaryMurphy2.jpg
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 * Oops! Fixed, sorry -- Pete Tillman (talk) 01:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

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Santa Fe Southern Railway
Thanks for your edits to Santa Fe Southern Railway. I modeled the page after the Cumbres and Toltec page; is that also a short line railroad? --Una Smith (talk) 20:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Betsy1901.gif
This image isn't showing up properly in the article because it's a .gif. If you can re-save it as a .jpg or something, that should make it show up right in the article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:SentinelRock.jpg
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 * It has been resolved. What my question was, was when was it published, which is what establishes its PD status. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 17:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:BikeBoys.jpg
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 * Hi - I'm sorry but I don't see where it says it was published by the company; I don't think that the copyright countdown starts until it is published. Lets discuss at WP:PUI so that other people can weigh in? - SCEhard T 02:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See discussion at Possibly_unfree_images/2008_July_9 for resolution. Nutshell: relicensed as fair use, but it probably is PD. Pete Tillman (talk) 19:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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Richard Shelton and Book Cover Image
Per WP:NONFREE, book cover images should NOT be used in an author article, only in an article about the book. As such, the image does not belong in Richard Shelton (writer), hence its removal. Also, your recent edit not only put the image back and removed a valid tag, but it removed all of the article categories and the stub tags. Please be more careful in the future. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 06:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Hansen (again again)
The user who inserted this quote is with very high likelihood a sockpuppet of User:scibaby, one of the most prolific and insistent socks in Wikipedias history. I suggest that you go onto the talk-page and get a consensus for the addition there - instead of using a sockpuppet edit as the platform.

As you well know, the previous consensus was to remove quotes. That consensus can of course be overturned, since consensus isn't a fixed position. But change consensus first - then change. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 16:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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To answer your question
Current count is 69 on English Wikipedia, 20 on Commons. :) Best wishes.  Durova Charge! 02:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Cheers -- Pete Tillman (talk) 02:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Tule Desert (Arizona)
Geographical features are inherently notable. I wasn't sure if you were aware of this or not. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 12:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * New FUR posted at Image:BikeBoys.jpg. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 23:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Resolved, see Image:SanJuanPotters.jpeg --Pete Tillman (talk) 03:19, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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American Institute of Physics pictures
Hi there. I was recently reviewing some images, and I came across several pictures you uploaded from the American Institute of Physics photo archives. Some are public domain (or probably public domain) in the US, due to publication before 1923 (though we really need to be able to show that a picture was published before 1923, not just taken before 1923). The latter applies to Image:Ramsay william h1.jpg and Image:Leavitt henrietta b1.jpg (it's this one I'm not quite sure about). But there were three that are still in copyright and being sold by AIP (you can see this on their website where they charge people for using the photos): Image:Rubin vera f1.jpg, Image:Bethe hans.jpg, and Image:Bohr heisen pauli.jpg. This will probably mean that the images will have do be deleted because Wikipedia's non-free content policy has a criteria (#2) that means we need to avoid infringing against commercial use of the photos. The only exceptions are usually cases where the pictures themselves are "iconic" and discussed in an article as pictures (ie. the article discusses the picture, not the person in the picture). Also, in two of these cases, other photos exist (Hans Bethe and Wolfgang Pauli). Not sure about Vera Rubin, but that will probably have to go as well. It is OK to add links to the article so people can still click through to the photos, but we can't use them under our non-free content policy. If you have any objections or questions, please ask. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 12:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your polite note re these photos. I'm begining to regret entering the treacherous fields of fair use. On to specifics. The Ramsay photo was almost certainly published during his lifetime; since he died in 1916, it's PD. The Leavitt photo was also likely published during her lifetime, but there's no documentation one way or the other. My feeling is, it's very likely PD, but you may feel differently. I agree it's a gray area. But, where there's no substitute, I think it's worth pushing the envelope a bit for the extra EV of supplying an image of a historic person.


 * For the Bethe and the group photo, it might be best to downgrade them to a link, as they're sort-of replaceable, and I don't have the energy to write a new FUR (which might not work anyway).


 * The Rubin I'll argue is worth keeping, and as time permits I'll rewrite the FUR to support this. The AIP doesn't really sell the photos: "the Emilio Segrè Visual Archives DOES NOT CLAIM COPYRIGHT to these images". They charge "a service fee, not a license in the legal sense." . In any case, these 40 kb "big thumbnails" wouldn't compete with the full-size scans they offer.


 * Thanks for your interest, and I don't think I'll be posting many more fair-use images. Life is too short. Best regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 03:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * New FUR posted; see Image:SanJuanPotters.jpeg. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 03:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Arizona links

 * The smalltownpapers.com links (ie http://www.smalltownpapers.com/listCPV.htm) look really spammy to me. They are poorly executed, 1.5 months outdated, and only show one edition of the paper.


 * The Clarkdale's history link is redundant, as the link before it (which I left there) is to the same page.


 * The links at Cornville, Arizona are really iffy. The first one is OK (though not the best source), the verdevalleyguide looks like straight spam and I have removed it again.  The others really need to be attached to stubs of their subjects or used as sources, as there's no context as to why they are links at that page.

Up to you really, I was just following a different spammer around the Arizona pages. NJGW (talk) 05:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hiking article getting killed
Tillman:


 * Dunno, but it seems remotely possible judging from some of your Wikipedia activity that you might be interested in trying to save an article of potential interest to hikers in North America and elsewhere.


 * Wilderness Diarrhea is getting merged into Travelers Diarrhea by a couple of zealots who seem to have no concept of outdoor interests and a narrow, clinical orientation toward medicine.

I get around a lot in the outdoors and rarely treat water, but WD article had some good stuff.


 * After a couple of weeks of calm discussion, I went ballistic and no longer want to participate. Rational voices might help.

These guys have irrationally convinced themselves that WD isn't a legitimate topic for a Wikipedia article.


 * I've pointed out several bomb-proof arguements to no avail. I'd say the strongest is the rather vast number of published articles that discuss WD as a separate concern from TD. They are both environmental health topics, and obviously the context of each are far different.

Calamitybrook (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Barack Obama article probation
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Extinct settlements
Please have a look at this proposal for a new project (ExtinctSettlments) and add your votes and/or views. I am canvassing as many interested people as I can and your name was on a relevant project list. Folks at 137 (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

William Timmons
Hi - I actually am pursuing dispute resolution on that page. The problem is that the process is being undermined by confirmed sockpuppets. My last revert was to revert a sockpuppet. Your last edit summary when you reverted along with the sockpuppets was a flat out lie -- the claim is anything but "unsubstantiated" and you know it. Please do not subvert the dispute resolution process with blatant mischaracterizations like that. Thank you. csloat (talk) 01:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Muggins Mountains Wilderness flora
I know how diligent you have been in Wikipedia. But, i didn't look at your page enuff to know if you are a Geology expert, either schooled or not. I went throught Engineering back when Arizona was still a Copper mining state, (as it still is). Thanx for your comments; before I read your remarks to me, I added a section on the Talk:Muggins Mountains, about Dome Valley, and the Psorothamnus spinosus. As soon as it cools, I want to get back out in some old and new mountain areas. (there are a whole bunch of areas to do, or to re-do.)(FromHot SonoranDesertYuma)---.....Mmcannis (talk) 03:22, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== re: Talk:Bill Ayers


 * thanks that you source for your constructive scriticism re: my acitons on bill ayers. i only eintedned to help keep things cool and nonpolitical in a contoroversial article lathough looking back it is clear to me that i have failed to do so effectively. thank youf rfalling calling my attention to it and i will try to remedy this by withdrawing from this article to avoid causing many more problems. your concern is much appreciated I thank you for your help and patience. Smith Jones (talk) 00:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles County
If you don't mind, would you mind identifying which of the arguments opposed to the proposed move you find to be sound? Perhaps I'm missing something, but I simply do not understand why this name is disambiguated in the article title in the first place, or why anyone would want to leave it that way. Thanks. --Born2cycle (talk) 03:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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I have not forgotten
about this. I still have much to complete on the ArbCom case but I needed a break and have been attending to some other matters for a bit.

Looking over the page you pointed to it seems that it may have achieved some amount of a lull, or not? I can see some problems like Monbiot is given too much space and in multiple places. Every other thing is labeled as being "conservative" which is rather silly. The lead summarizes the points of the critics but there is no balancing summary of the supporters. Etc.

If things are precariously stable right now I don't want to come in like a bull in a china shop and upset the whole thing. So I am asking you if you think I should dive in or let the dust settle for a while before attempting some corrective edits? Your thoughts? --GoRight (talk) 19:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The page does seems to have reached a lull -- on my part, because of fatigue.


 * You've identified some of the weak points. The biggie (in my view) is that the Other Side has painted the author as a fool and a buffoon. Which clearly isn't the case, though he does have a confrontational style, and was (app.) careless in parts of the book. I'm not quite sure how to fix it. As you probably saw on Talk, he has some respectable supporters, but their remarks are only available on blogs, not (so far) RS's. I'm not very hopeful we'll get consensus to use Stockwell. I'm hoping some of this will be picked up in the press, and hence be usable as RS'd.


 * So use your judgment. Maybe start with the Monbiot duplicate? Alex's rv of some of the silly political labels has stood so far, which is hopeful. Pull some more?


 * Good luck on the ArbCom thing. Yuk. Kind regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll take a close look. Thanks.  --GoRight (talk) 22:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Non-free images in lists
Thanks for supplying the policy page link; I wasn't previously aware of it. I'll stop removing those pictures, now that I know that they're permitted. Nyttend (talk) 11:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem --Pete Tillman (talk) 16:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks (images)
Thanks for the kind words re image uploads -- glad you like them. Did you see File:Phallic-Head Plate, 1536 .jpg?

If you are so inclined, have a look at ]. Support welcome -- I don't know what his problem is.... Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 15:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I assume his problem relates to Non-free content criteria - read Non-free content where it is placed in context. The image is a "non-free" one, so there has to be a good reason for using it. J Milburn appears to be challenging the image under the "significance" criteria. He offers a clue as to how to use the image - build a section in the article on Hayden's relationship with Fonda. Currently the relationship is mentioned only in passing, and so the significance of the image is not clear.  SilkTork  *YES! 17:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Out of my depth, pointers?
Hi. I'm an admin who volunteers at the copyright problems board. We've had two articles now on the desert Wahiba Sands, both of which were extensive copyright violations. Since it is obviously a notable feature, I've written a new infringement-free article, but my area is humanities. I'm hoping to find somebody who can review the article with an eye to seeing if I've completely muffed something (all my sources online) due to my lack of familiarity. I've selected you to ask because of your contributions to the template on deserts, which suggest that you might be able to help. :) If you don't have time or inclination, please let me know; I'll try to find somebody else. I'll be watching your page in case you have opportunity to reply. Thank you for any assistance or advice you may be able to offer. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I knew absolutely nothing about the Wahiba Sands before, and now know a little, so I'd say you did a good job. No obvious flubs in two readings -- though the "Geography" section might better be called "Geology"? HTH, and thanks for going above & beyond the call of duty. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 22:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much for your feedback. :) I'll modify the section header accordingly. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (File:Avlaon Harbor.jpg)
 Thanks for uploading File:Avlaon Harbor.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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 * If you're going to keep this image, would you please reverse it. It appears that it has been scanned in as a mirror image since the Casino would not be on that side of the bay. Thank you!--38.98.36.18 (talk) 19:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you know how to do that? I don't. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * There are two ways that you can tell that the image is reversed. First, the bay is oriented the wrong way. If you are looking at the Casino from the opposite side of the bay, the ocean should be on the right side of the photo. Secondly, if you look at the original slide from the url above, you can see that the text is reversed. I went ahead and changed it already, though someone with better photo editing skills might be able to do a better job than I did.--mcd51 (talk) 04:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! It is a nice photo -- I appreciate the help, as I am more or less clueless re digital photo editing. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 04:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

File:DVScotty.jpg listed for deletion
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Museum cats
it's not. in fact, I'm just undoing a misguided effort I made back in June. I've been going methodically through the states, cleaning them up one by one. As I'm sure you noticed, I just reached New Mexico, but check out any of the other states. Each museum gets at least one "type" category at the state level and only one "location" cat at either the city or county level (depending on if there are enough for a city). There was a lot of feedback against creating categories with one or two pages. So you'll occasionally see a museum tagged as "history museums in State" and "Numismatic museums in the United States" for example. Check out Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Museums for more discussion about this. Thanks dm (talk) 05:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:HPW8airliner.jpg
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 * A number of images of W8 appear in the Flight Magazine some published before 1928, for example http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/leftnavigation.aspx?path=1922/1922%20-%200732.PDF&pageno=37 might be worth a look either to scan or validate that images were published at an early date. MilborneOne (talk) 19:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Shiprock
Hi Tillman,

I have been editing parts of the Shiprock article but think it needs more input from people better informed than I am. Should the article should be included in indigenous peoples of the americas? It misses any reference to pre-Navajo beliefs or Anasazi role. It could be barking up the wrong tree, but I am convinced there would be grounds for an unrecorded climb. You look like the correct person to point me to the correct person! That would be much appreciated. It looks like you have an awful lot on your wikiplate. Nice articles! And you did camp bird mine, too!? Diastar (talk) 22:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)diastar

Thanks! I see you are way too occupied with way too much! But if you come across any experts that would be interested, please point them to Shiprock. And, it was me that dashed the dreams of rock climbers by finally finding a source that clearly states it is illegal. Still, I am convinced that that Anasazi could'uv if they wanted. BTY: there is an nice little book on the Bachelor Mine - so I will add an article soon enough. best. Diastar (talk) 01:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)diastar

Possibly unfree File:Oldgold,2000bc.jpg
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