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DYK for Stephen Yokich
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Sleeping Giant
Alison's just blocked as a sockpuppet, hardly a surprising development. For correct attribution of your work, selective deletion might be in order.  Acroterion  (talk)  02:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Deleted; feel free to restore for proper attribution.  Acroterion  (talk)  15:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks sooooooooooooooooo much for your help in this matter! Admin tasks are often thankless and you take a lot of heat, but you have my thanks! - Tim1965 (talk) 17:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Campus Ambassador?
Hi there, I'm LiAnna Davis, the communications associate for the Wikimedia Foundation's new Public Policy Initiative. We are currently looking for dedicated Wikipedians near the George Washington University and Georgetown University areas to serve as Campus Ambassadors, and I hope you might be interested.

Volunteer Campus Ambassadors will provide face-to-face training and support for professors and students on Wikipedia-related skills, such as how to create new articles, how to add images, how the talk pages work, etc. If you're especially enthusiastic and know people on campus, you can set up Wikipedia-related student groups and organize "Welcome to Wikipedia" social events.

More details about the Wikipedia Campus Ambassador role can be found at http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Campus_Ambassador.

The estimated time commitment for this role is 3-5 hours a week, possibly slightly more at the very beginning and very end of the semester. The Wikimedia Foundation will hold a mandatory three-day training for all Campus Ambassadors in August, and will continue to stay in contact with and offer full support for the Campus Ambassadors throughout the academic semester.

Please let us know if this is something that sounds interesting to you or if you know of any other Wikipedians near George Washington or Georgetown who could help out. Feel free to respond on Annie Lin's talk page or email her at alin@wikimedia.org (Annie is our Campus Team Coordinator).--Ldavis (Public Policy) (talk) 21:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sleeping Giant Wilderness Study Area
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Whitney Young Memorial Bridge
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Military Road (Arlington, Virginia)
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Volume units
Hi, Over at Talk:Aldeadávila Dam you said "115,000,000 cubic metres (or 115 km3)". In fact, it would need to be 115,000,000,000 m3 before it becomes 115 km3. You may already know that but I just wanted to make sure, because you were correcting values in articles. Regards Lightmouse (talk) 19:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Happy Tim1965's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Geez, thanks! :) - Tim1965 (talk) 00:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Aldeadávila Dam
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Public Employees Federation
The DYK project (nominate) 00:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Kingman Lake
Excellent work on Kingman Lake. You ought to nominate it for GA. I spotted you dam work the other day too. Keep it up! Dr.  Blofeld  11:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've proposed this article for DYK, and if it passes there then I think I'll nominate it for GA status. - Tim1965 (talk) 19:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I've verified the article for DYK but alas the hook is too long (209 characters). I can't think what to lose, so am stumped for alternatives at the mo. Can we lose the army corps? Si Trew (talk) 15:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Morris v. United States
Courcelles 18:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Maryland v. West Virginia
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Virginia v. West Virginia
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Kingman Park, Washington, D.C.
The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Kingman Lake
 — Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Halloween
We certainly are. There are two noms already and I have created a 2010 page. Do feel free to fiddle. Spotting DYK noms that could be changed to halloween hooks is worth doimg. I also thought that in 10? days we might send a reminder(*) to previous halloween and active DYKers. Any ideas? Victuallers (talk) 07:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


 * A clever reminder would be to give out belated barnstars to last years contribtors...
 * I tried being clever yesterday. I hope it helps! - Tim1965 (talk) 13:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure it will. Not only will they see it but others visiting their pages will have a go at it. In September I'll add some reminders to the DYK acknowledgement slips after I schedule a main page update. Thanks for being bold. Victuallers (talk) 13:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Should the three nominations already at T:TDYK be moved to WP:Did you know/Halloween 2010? Smartse (talk) 20:38, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, once they are approved by others. Approval is given when an editor (who is not the nominator) adds the "Very Evil" symbol Emblem-very-very-evil.svg and has indicated their approval. That has yet to happen with the three ones on the Template talk:Did you know page.  There are still discussions going on over the wording of two, and the most recent one has yet to be evaluated. - Tim1965 (talk) 21:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for District of Columbia Department of Parks and Recreation
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Kingman Island
The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Langston Golf Course
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for East Potomac Park Golf Course
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DYK for Rock Creek Park Golf Course
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin Goldwasser
The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Amtrak Railroad Anacostia Bridge
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Committee of 100 on the Federal City
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Ann Hibbins Halloween DYK
Thanks for the feedback on Ann Hibbins. I am currently working on one for the first women hung as a witch in Mass, Margaret Jones which I will also nominate for the the Halloween DYK.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:22, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Medicine Rocks State Park
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Veratrum nigrum
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of State of Alabama v. State of Georgia
Hello! Your submission of State of Alabama v. State of Georgia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3 talk 16:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * It took me four days to find the cites requested. I added them to the article. But, due to the newly-restrictive DYK nominations rule about auto-deleting noms more than eight days old to which discussions "have gone stale," the DYK nom has been deleted. I didn't think that four days was too long to respond, but I guess it was (even though my hook was only eight days old). Now all that work is useless and lost. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * In the future please consider the information available to those who perform those work needed to promote hooks and maintain the DYK system. From that perspective, an issue had been noted with the nomination and a notification had been left on your talk page.  Additionally, your edit history showed activity during the following days, meaning you were assumed to have seen the notification, and yet there was no comment to either the nomination of edits to the article.  Based upon this situation, how could a DYK worker tell that this nomination had not been abandoned?  Even a short note to the nomination that you were in the process of securing additional sources would have probably bought you additional time by allowing reviewers to know that something was happening.


 * All this being said, I have taken advantage of the shrinking backlog to schedule the hook. --Allen3 talk 13:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for State of Missouri v. State of Iowa (1849)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Original jurisdiction
I've been reading your original jurisdiction articles -- that's some excellent work. Nice job! --Coemgenus 21:22, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That's high praise, as I'm no attorney.  Just well-read.  I'm terrible with Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s cases though. His prose is so dense, it's difficult to figure out just what he's saying. - Tim1965 (talk) 12:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Poole v. Fleeger
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Halloween
When putting them together, I noticed several of them were yours ;-) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 09:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I love Halloween! I contributed last year, too.  This year's process seemed...disorganized and under the control of individuals not participating. Although the Hallowween DYKs are often written in the same vein as the April Fool's DYKs, several individuals held up DYK noms by raising (what are to my mind) penny-ante quibbles about phrasing.  Several noms were held up because non-participants believed the noms should be strictly about Halloween (not topics associated with Halloween), while some noms were held up because they were not international enough. Neither is a DYK criteria, but noms stayed unapproved for a month because of it. Although the goal of the Halloween DYK participants has been to fill up all the DYK submissions for the entire day (much as others do for Christmas, New Year's, April Fool's, etc.), there were several editors who challenged that idea and argued that only a few DYK noms should be accepted. It got to be a very unhappy process at the end.  But, I think all the approved noms are excellent, and everyone who submitted articles and helped organize the day's DYKs did fantastic work! - Tim1965 (talk) 13:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for State of Alabama v. State of Georgia
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Euphorbia tithymaloides
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Beginning of the End
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bonfire toffee
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ipswich Witchcraft Trial
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ben Cooper, Inc.
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Little People of the Pryor Mountains
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hell Town, Ohio
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hell's Half Acre Lava Field
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Devils River (Wisconsin)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Spodomancy
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Átahsaia
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for James v. Dravo Contracting Co.
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for The Listeners (novel)
The DYK project (nominate) 18:05, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Condemnation Act
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Louis Ayres
The DYK project (nominate) 06:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Clyde Summers
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for In re Summers
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for American Communications Association v. Douds
Materialscientist (talk) 06:06, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Mills Houston
Hello! Your submission of John Mills Houston at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for James A. Gross
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Mills Houston
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Harold I. Cammer
Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for David J. Saposs
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Nathan Witt
Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

NLRB v. Fansteel Metallurgical Corp., NLRB v. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co., National Labor Relations Board v. Sands Manufacturing Co.
Hi, I put a on this DYK nomination on account of the hook length (I did not include the titles NLRB v. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co. or NLRB v. Sands Manufacturing Co. in the character count). I also suggested a shortened hoook. --catslash (talk) 09:43, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

So I've put a on this with your ALT2 alternative hook. --catslash (talk) 17:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Campus Ambassadors wanted in Bozeman, Montana
Hi! I'm leaving you this message because you're listed as a member of WikiProject Montana. The Wikipedia Ambassador Program is currently looking for Campus Ambassadors to help with Wikipedia assignments at Montana State University - Bozeman, which will be participating in the Public Policy Initiative for the Spring 2011 semester. The role of Campus Ambassadors will be to provide face-to-face training and support for students on Wikipedia-related skills (how to edit articles, how to add references, etc.). This includes doing in-class presentations, running workshops and labs, possibly holding office hours, and in general providing in-person mentorship for students.

Prior Wikipedia skills are not required for the role, as training will be provided for all Campus Ambassadors (although, of course, being an experienced editor is a plus).

I know Montana is a big state, but if you happen to live near Bozeman and you are interested in being a Wikipedia Campus Ambassador, or know someone else from Bozeman who might be, please email me or leave a message on my talk page.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I wish! I live in Washington, D.C. - Tim1965 (talk) 21:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject District of Columbia
Based on the activeity on the project page, the talk page and the number of articles in its scope (way too low) it appears as though Wikiproject District of Columbia is basically inactive. I was going to put an inactive tag on it but before I do I thought I would contact the active users first. Do you know what the status of this project is?--Kumioko (talk) 21:29, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't officially say, but I would regard it as inactive. The project has not been adding new members, and there are very few contributors actually claiming to be part of the project.  While there are many people working on adding new articles about D.C., and in the past year The Washington Post profiled one of the project's members, I think the project is inactive. - Tim1965 (talk) 21:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I thought as much. How would you feel about me pulling this project and its articles into the scope of WikiProject United States? Basically this would encompass the following things:
 * I would leave the project page and talk page and everything in tact
 * I would add District of Columbia as a Project within the scope of United States (this just means I would add District of Columbia to WikiProject United States)
 * I would replace the District of Columbia with the WPUS/DC banner (thereby adding it to the WPUS scope)
 * I would go through and tag what appears to be about 22000 articles relating to DC that doesnt currently carry that tag.
 * That way the project are actively covered by an active project. Does this sound ok to you? --Kumioko (talk) 21:42, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that's entirely appropriate. (And a heck of a lot of work!) Let's say that an existing project member, however, wanted to try to revive the project. (Not me, but someone.) Would there be a process for notifying existing project members about the proposed change, a deadline for reviving the project, and criteria for what would constitute a revived project that would make the proposed change moot? ("Anyone wanting to revive this project would have to meet X, Y, and Z criteria within ___ weeks in order for this project to be considered active again. Assessment of any revivification would occur one month later to ensure the project's new activity was ongoing.") - Tim1965 (talk) 21:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks and your right it is a fair amount of work but there's no rush so I figure I could have the 5000ish currently marked for the DC project done in the next week or so and the other 20K over the next month or so If I don't do it as a bot task (which I would probably try and do as a bot task). Theres not really any criteria and Im not sure there needs to be. I still plan on keeping the project page (at least for now) so other than being in the same banner they can pretty much just start editing and go IMO. I would say that if they want to break away completely there should be enough members to sustain it but thats just my opinion. --Kumioko (talk) 01:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for NLRB v. Fansteel Metallurgical Corp.
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for NLRB v. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co.
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for National Labor Relations Board v. Sands Manufacturing Co.
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lloyd K. Garrison
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Eliseo Medina
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Eternal flame
The latitude and longitude in the "John F. Kennedy Eternal Flame" article point to the Tidal Basin instead of the Eternal Flame. Raytracy2 (talk) 18:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * GNIS points to that, and that's the official government geographic locator site. I rolled back the change because a) there was no edit summary saying why it was made, and b) the change was made by an anonymous IP rather than a logged-in user. If you have better coordinates, by all means enter them. - Tim1965 (talk) 19:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Henry Clay Frick edits
I received a message from you concerning edits I made to the Henry Clay Frick article (over the summer, I believe). I cleaned up some grammar and mechanics and did make one change concerning the section on his alleged relationship to the Johnstown flood. Your message indicated that my edits were "vandalism" and as such had been reverted. Perhaps I do not understand, but I read the wiki link you provided to the article on vandalism and do not see how any of my edits constitute vandalism. In fact, they are in the "what is not vandalism" section. I am not trying to start a picky war with you over language--I earnestly want to know why what I did was vandalism, if it was so, so I can avoid doing so in the future.

Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.85.136 (talk) 13:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The only edit of yours which I reverted on that page was this one dated August 18, 2010. You removed the portion of the sentence which said Berkman conspired with Goldman. That is a substantial change to the tone of the article; absent a citation, that change should not have been made.  It too easily can be seen as vandalism (as noted in my comment on your anonymous IP Talk page).  In the case of conflicting evidence published by neutral third parties, the conflicting evidence should be noted (and cited) in the article and the relevant claims mentioned. Since you are not using an account on Wikipedia, you may also be editing under other IP addresses.  If so, you will need to identify those other IP addresses for me.  Many anonymous IP addresses have been reverted by me and others on the Henry Clay Frick page. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:35, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Owen Bieber
I would normally tidy refs, as I usually do, but I don't understand referencing there. (i) ref name="Fucini201" and ref name="Fucini10" point to the same page, should they be combined or ref name="Fucini201" actually meant p. 201? (ii) why Bibliography duplicates notes? The idea of notes is to have multiple references to a single source via a shortname (e.g. Franklin, 2002, p. 93. - though even the year could be dropped as there is no other source by Franklin). Single-use sources can be cited directly. Materialscientist (talk) 09:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No, that's a typo of mine. One Fucini reference is to page 10, another to page 201.  In the one to page 201, I typed "10" rather than "201", creating duplicate citations.  As far as footnotes duplicating bibliographic sources, I don't believe that is occurring.  Perhaps the issue is one of style:  I've been following the Chicago Manual of Style (13th ed.). The Chicago Manual of Style defines two ways of using shortened footnotes: One includes the author's last name, short title of the work, and page number. The other, used primarily in scholarly texts (which Wikipedia is not), uses only the author's last name and page number (including short title only when more than one work by an author of the same last name is used). CSM has a slightly more complex rule for newspaper footnotes, which differs from the general rule: A footnote citing a newspaper or periodical requires author last name, article name, periodical or newspaper name, and date of publication in footnote. The slightly more complete citation occurs in the bibliography. This may appear duplicative, but it is not according to CSM. - Tim1965 (talk) 19:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, per CSM it might not be a duplication, but direct comparison tells it is (only author name is shortened in newspapers, the rest is copied) :-) So I would use common sense; and in any case, wikipedia does not have to (and often does not) follow external formatting guides. Materialscientist (talk) 01:29, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Owen Bieber
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas M. Carnegie
Materialscientist (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2010 (UTC) With that many short references, I suggest this article should use  (or even  ) instead of. –bender235 (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Be bold. I don't own that article. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, you're the major author of the article, so according to WP:CITE that probably gives you the right to determine the reference style. I've never contributed to the article before, so I decided to ask before I implement the change. —bender235 (talk) 11:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)