User talk:Tim8008

Your website
Please stop adding links to (what I assume is) your personal statistics website. I appreciate the time and effort it takes to accumulate such details, but unfortunately it does not constitute a reliable source and fails the criteria set out at WP:EL. Regards, wjemather bigissue 19:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi - I got your message (sadly) so have stopped adding links while I clarify the issues raised.

I started adding the links after studying WP_EL What Should be Linked: Section 3 (below for convenience) seemed to apply.

Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons.

The site data is professional athlete statistics and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to amount of detail. I have taken great care to maintain neutrality and accuracy.

Unfortunately over the years of putting the information together, I did not keep detailed track of all the sources so I accept that the site cannot meet the criteria for reliable sources, although all information was cross-checked. The reason I thought it was nevertheless okay to add the links is Section 4 of Links to be Considered.

Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources.

The value of the resource is in combining dispersed data in a single place, not available elsewhere.

If you could reply and tell me whether you think my original judgments have any validity, I'd appreciate it. My purpose is to make information more easily available but I have no desire to subvert Wikipedia.

Best Regards

Tim Richardson


 * Hi, I understand why you would think that your site is acceptable and covered by WP:ELYES point 3, but unfortunately there are a number of problems with that. Firstly, while I have no doubt you have done a thorough job in compiling all those stats, there are no respected independent reviews of your site to attest for its accuracy which is required by the guideline. Secondly, as Walter touched on (here), your site is certainly covered by WP:ELNO point 11 in that, because of its nature, it is classified a personal web site or fansite, and since you are not (I assume) a "recognised authority" it does not meet verifiability standards necessary for inclusion. Sorry, but I hope that helps explain why the links were removed. Regards, wjemather bigissue  21:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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