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Another imposition
Can I interest you, perhaps, in the peer review for Wendell Willkie? He came to London once when the tourist trade was at an all-time low ... Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It will be a pleasure. And at least I know who WW was, unlike my complete ignorance of George Mason.  Tim riley  talk   16:42, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, we educate each other.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Today's featured article/December 21, 2015
Tim and Wehwalt, I'll get to this one tonight. Really looking forward to it! You did the man justice. - Dank (push to talk) 03:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


 * It was enjoyable. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Btw, I'll go put something in my userspace about the capitalization on "prime minister". There are a bunch of different constraints; it's not a tractable problem. - Dank (push to talk) 15:49, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Quite so! I think one can become seriously unhinged trying to cope with this question. I find it no problem to write about several "prime ministers", but, illogicaly, I cannot bring myself to leave the capitals off "Lord Chancellor", whether singular or plural.  Tim riley  talk   16:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right, I tried to write out my explanation and actually became unhinged. Short version: what you guys have in the article isn't fine at TFA because I need consistent rules at TFA to keep my sanity, but it's fine at FAC (with my usual FAC copyeditor hat on), because copyeditors lose arguments like this one every day, and we've learned to pick our battles, particularly when we don't have a job description hanging over us that tells us what we're required to do battle over. - Dank (push to talk) 17:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Do I speak for the firm of Wehley and Riwalt in agreeing happily to whatever capitalisation preserves Dank's grip on sanity?  Tim riley  talk   18:03, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, as he pleases.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Cluestick Award
Thanks for putting in an unexpected word (above and beyond), in spite of all the shoutiness. Cheers!  THE PROMENADER  ✎ ✓ 17:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That is very kind, Promenader, and much appreciated. I much prefer a stroll in the boulevards to a troll in the boulevards, and one must say so loud and clear whenever necessary.  Tim riley  talk   14:37, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

WSB
Tim, we should really get William Sterndale Bennett at least up to GA for his 2016 bicentenary, no?--Smerus (talk) 13:03, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oo-er! I'm game, but there isn't an abundance of sources. Would it be worth taking the article to peer review now, do you think? Might give us a steer on where to concentrate our efforts with GA or even, however improbably, FA, in mind.  Tim riley  talk   13:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, good idea, I will do this when back in London next week (currently in Tashkent). I know WSB's g-g-g-grandson, he can probably direct me to useful sources - the family archives alas will be WP:OR.--Smerus (talk) 18:28, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent. I'll happily back you up with fielding any bouncers. Meanwhile I must go about getting some grandchildren so that I can tell them I once had a discussion about William Sterndale Bennett with a man in Tashkent.  Tim riley  talk   18:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Done!--Smerus (talk) 10:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll do a bit of gentle drumming-up of trade. Meanwhile, coincidentally, SchroCat and I have Albert Ketèlbey up for peer review, and if you care to look in there it will be much appreciated. –  Tim riley  talk   18:20, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

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George Frideric Handel's lost Hamburg operas
I'm a bit ahead of myself, and I've finished the above, although I don't propose to put it to any formal review process until January when there should be more people about with time to look at articles. But I'd welcome a few informal comments on the talk page, if you have a moment. There is also the issue of the article's title (a move has been suggested on the talk page) and I'd like your views on that, too. (I've got another little music article on the go, but rest assured, from January onwards GBS will be my primary concern). Brianboulton (talk) 21:21, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Will gladly give it the once over and stick my oar in about moving it,  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   09:00, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to FAC @ Norodom Ranariddh
Dear Tim,

Good day, I would like to take this opportunity to hear from your inputs and/or your thoughts on the above article's FAC-worthiness. I understand that you are one of User:Brianboulton's close associates, and hence I felt that it is also appropriate on my part to invite you to co-appraise. I have heard from one of your associates, Wehwalt, whom I was led to understand was another associate of yours and Brian to co-appraise.

I welcome you to drop by at the FAC at any time, without pressure or obligations. See you and take care ! :) Mr Tan (talk) 10:55, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll put it on my list and look in if and when I can fit it in.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   11:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Peer review
To anyone kind enough to watch this page: SchroCat, aided and abetted by me, has Albert Ketèlbey up for peer review. Visitors will be most welcome.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   15:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

And another not very well known English composer, William Sterndale Bennett, is also up for PR, where comments will be gratefully received.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   18:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Today's featured article/January 1, 2016
What better way to start the year than with a Tim Riley article. I've got the TFA down to 1539 characters. It needs to be around 1150, but I don't have a preference what to cut. Tis the season; would you care to do the carving? - Dank (push to talk) 19:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Brute! I have done the deed. I consoled myself by thinking of Dr Johnson's words: "Read over your compositions, and where ever you meet with a passage which you think is particularly fine, strike it out."  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   19:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That's good, but be careful not to do such a good job in the future ... someone might want you to do it regularly. - Dank (push to talk) 20:53, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that, and for the day-in-day-out work of you and your colleagues in doing the front page stuff. We are in your debt.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   20:59, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I take all major credit cards. - Dank (push to talk) 21:23, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

It's a great way to start a new musical year: "Tutto nel mondo è burla ... Tutti gabbati! / "Everything in the world is a jest ... ". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Edit warring
Please don't edit war. On Albert Ketèlbey, your bold edit was reverted and at that point you should be heading for the talk page to discuss, not re-reverting. I'll be happy to match you revert for revert at this stage if you attempt to force your personal preferences onto the article. You are wrong, by the way, about WP:CITEVAR. Your edit removed properly sourced material, using the proper citation style for the article. Further attempts to remove good sources for spurious reasons are like to be treated as disruptive. Please take this warning in the spirit in which it is intended. --RexxS (talk) 18:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Wrong way round rex. Potw added this morning and it was removed. YOUR subsequent edit warring is unwarranted. – SchroCat (talk) 18:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I do indeed take Rex's threat in the spirit in which I conceive it was intended.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   18:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:45, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Nothing fancy. Just a simple thank you for all your help on the Copland Connotations article and a wish for the best for you in 2016. Merry Christmas, Tim.Jonyungk (talk) 16:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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and to everyone else who has been kind enough to send greetings I send my warm reciprocations, and to those who haven't, I send happy greetings anyway.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   21:08, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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Though
Opinions? (Stalkers?) I'm wondering if I should always use "although" in AmEng articles per COMMONALITY. - Dank (push to talk) 03:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't presume to have a view on AmEng usage. In BrEng some people mistakenly think a plain "though" is inferior to "although". Chaucer, Shakespeare, Dr Johnson, Dickens, Wilde and Wodehouse did not think so, and used "though" often. This is what the new edition of Fowler says:
 * Though can always be used instead of although, but the reverse is not true. Though is slightly more frequent than although and somewhat less formal. ... though alone is possible as an adverb in medial or final positions: It is true, though, that one misses out... [and] in the fixed expressions, as though and even though.
 * If the import of your question is that at present you use "though" but wonder if commonality makes it desirable to use "although", my advice (to writers of both AmEng and BrEng) is to stick to "though" wherever it feels natural. –  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   08:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That feels right to me, thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 13:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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Noël Coward
Can we please discuss my edit and your subsequent reversion on the Noël Coward talk page? Seattle Jörg (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Gladly, once I am back at home with references to hand, which will be from 30 Dec onwards.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   13:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Decade
Thank you to all who have made editing Wikipedia rewarding and enjoyable over the past ten years.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   12:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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New FLC
Hi Tim. I have List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Bedfordshire at FLC. Comments gratefully received if you have the time. Happy new year. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)m
 * Bedfordshire? We in Cumbria know it not. But I'll be back in the metrop tomorrow from the rapidly drying ancestral Lake District shack, and will be very pleased to look in at Beds SSSIs.  <font color="#0A0A2A">Tim riley <font color="#848484"> talk   23:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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2016 year of the reader and peace
Thank you for inspiration and support, including two excellent GA reviews in 2015, - thanks with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)