User talk:Timbentinck

Dear Wikipedia, I'm writing to ask if you could please change the heading for my page. At the moment it reads, "Timothy Bentinck, 12th Earl of Portland". I have recently created a new website www.timbentinck.com, which updates the previous www.bentinck.net, created in 1998. If you have a look at the new site, you'll see that I am a well known and very experienced actor of some forty years. There is no mention of the title. I do not use the title. It came to us from a distant cousin without money or estate. It does not define me. When I get a new job in the theatre, people Google me and are immediately suspicious that I am not a 'proper' actor, and I have to go through a whole rigmarole of explaining. It affects my career and has nothing to do with me. I have never earned a penny from it and do not use it to my advantage. Please, Wikipedia, if you could just make the title of my page 'Timothy Bentinck' I might be able to persuade Google to do the same. By all means mention it in the body of my biog, as it is a fact and cannot be denied, but not in the page title. I do hope you can see your way to fulfilling my request. Just have a look at www.timbentinck.com to see who I am. Thank you. Tim Timbentinck (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello Tim, my name's, it's nice to meet you. I've seen your request and it seems reasonable enough to me. Unfortunately, however, there's one hoop to jump through first. You see, we don't actually know for sure that this account belongs to Tim Bentinck! As a rule, if an editor claims to be someone notable enough for a Wikipedia page, we need to be sure they're who they say they are. Please understand that this is trying to protect you from impersonation; as much as we emphasize assuming good faith, if someone claims to be the subject of a Wikipedia page we can't just take their word for it. Please have a look at the real names rules and follow the directions there to verify your identity with our volunteer response team.
 * While I'm here, I'm obligated to point out a couple of other things. First, if you're editing an article about yourself, we consider that to be a conflict of interest. As a rule, instead of making article changes directly, we ask that you make an edit request so that someone uninvolved can have a look at it.
 * The second thing is a lot more straightforward (and kind of relates to the first) - if you want a major change to an article (like changing the name, as you asked for above), you should use the article's talk page to make the request, it will be seen a lot more quickly.
 * Thanks for bearing with us as we work through the occasionally Byzantine set of Wikipedia policies, and don't hesitate to ask me if you have any additional questions. creffett (talk) 18:40, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , I can confirm he sent a mail to OTRS with an email listed at https://www.timbentinck.com, which I believe is sufficient to prove his identity. – Ammarpad (talk)
 * , that'll do, thank you! : I'll take care of moving that page. creffett (talk) 03:22, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, thank you so much for replying back in 2019, I'm so sorry I never saw your reply and assumed my question had been lost in the ether!
 * I really appreciate your response and change to the heading.
 * Could I possibly ask one further thing, and this applies to me, my wife Judy Bentinck, my father Henry Bentinck and my son William Bentinck. We have this funny old title of Count of the Holy Roman Empire. Wikipedia has dredged up a very old version of it, when my ancestors were Dutch/German, and hasn't been used for generations, that is 'Count Bentinck und Waldeck Limpurg'. This makes us sound as though we're German, and my late father, who was wounded and taken prisoner by the Nazis in WWII would be turning in his grave if he found that he and his family were referred to in this way! Our family has been English since 1789, and have never used that part of the title, ever.
 * I'm an actor, and when I was on 'Celebrity Mastermind' John Humphries ambushed me with it, saying 'I didn't realise you were German Tim'. Infuriating!
 * If you look in any of the Peerages, Debrett's for instance, you'll see that we are referred to as 'Mediatised Counts of the Holy Roman Empire' and in the past were sometimes styled 'Aldenburg-Bentinck'. I honestly don't know where this 'und Waldeck Limpurg' name even came from.
 * Thanks so much for your help.
 * Tim Timbentinck (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)