User talk:Timerrill

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Neither the image nor the video from which is was taken is copyrighted, so how can there be any fair use violation?

Tim Merrill Timerrill (talk) 22:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

March 2010
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February 2011
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Hair at the Hollywood Bowl
The references that I have read do not indicate that this concert had anything to do with the 2010 Broadway revival. If you have references that make it clear that it was the same production, please let me know. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:36, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I saw the touring version of the Broadway revival production (which in fact opened in March 2009) twice, in L.A. and San Diego, as well as the Hollywood Bowl performance. I assure you that the Bowl production was the exact same production, same set design, same musical arrangements, same song list and order -- which has changed and adjusted over the decades, but not since the 2009 revival became the standard, as endorsed by both lyricist James Rado and composer Galt MacDermot. Even the same artwork and fonts from the Broadway advertising materials was used to tout the Bowl performances. All of this is verifiable online:

http://thesource.metro.net/2014/07/23/peace-love-and-the-hollywood-bowl-at-grand-park-on-national-dance-day/peace/

http://images.bwwstatic.com/upload2/98003/tn-500_hair%20%2820%29.jpg

Broadway musical performances at the Hollywood Bowl, which are done annually during the summer, are indeed special because they are usually directed by a Hollywood director (i.e. Adam Shankman in this case) and are cast with TV and movie stars rather than stage veterans. These are unusual and therefore special productions, and I have attended many of them. Since the 2009 revival of "Hair," directed by Diane Paulus, has been extremely successful including winning the Tony Award for Best Musical Revival and touring the U.S. for several years following its Broadway run, it makes sense that this recent staging was also put on at the Hollywood Bowl. (In addition to which, Bowl musical productions are only allotted 10 days' rehearsal time, so the likelihood that given this tight schedule Shankman would decide to completely re-conceive an even newer version of "Hair," despite the 2009 revival's recent success, is vanishingly slim.)

I hope all of this is clear. Timerrill (talk) 16:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)Timerrill


 * I believe you, but you have not satisfied Wikipedia's policies for adding this assertion to the article. See WP:V, which is one of our key policies.  You have failed to give a reference that states that the concert was based on the Paulus production.  Please stop WP:edit warring, and instead give a reference, on the article's Talk page, that clearly states that the concert was based on the Paulus production.  The fact that they used artwork from the production is not helpful.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

I think the Hollywood Bowl's press releases are fairly clear on this point...

http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/press/casting-news-hair-hollywood-bowl http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/press/emmy-nominated-director-adam-shankman-to-helm-hair-hollywood-bowl

...but somehow I doubt you'll agree, as the production didn't receive much press beyond some reviews and casting blurbs (owing to the "all-star" cast), and none of the writers and critics specifically pointed out the obvious fact that this was simply a large-scale re-staging of the otherwise intact 2009 revival. Pity, since everything I asserted is 100% true based on the efforts of someone who attended both productions, and as the advertising materials make plain as day. But since Wikipedia's exalted standards (I say that with a wink, having read about 3,000 grammatical/spelling errors on the site over the past few weeks) apparently supersede this contribution, I hereby give up. You win! Yay for you!

A pity too, since speaking of contributions I had actually been planning on donating $100 to Wikipedia, but thanks to this supercilious and petty treatment, forget it.

Timerrill (talk) 05:14, 12 September 2014 (UTC)Timerrill


 * Understood! You think that because you can't write whatever you want here without having to cite sources, and can't upload images without taking responsibility for proving that they are copyright-free, we are unfair to you.  You've been editing here since 2007, so I don't think our content policies are a surprise to you.  But if, after all this time, you don't buy in to our goals and editorial policies, then I doubt I can persuade you.  All the best. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:32, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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