User talk:Timesrunningout

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Promax/BDA
I've identified several issues with this article, as tagged. Can you please fix these, or communicate with me? Bearian (talk) 21:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Bearian,

Thank you for your comments on the Promax/BDA page. I am going to attempt a re edit to address all issues. I am pretty new to Wikipedia, so you will have to excuse me if I fail to completely meet the standards on this first edit. But rest assured I will keep going until it is met.

On a seperate issue, could you also look at another page I have been editing. It is titled Stephen Arnold.

Thank you for any help, Timesrunningout (talk) 15:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Drop a message on User talk:Bearian if you want to talk to him. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Publicity texts vs. encyclopedia articles
Regarding : To verify your statement that you are Mr. Arnold's publicist and are authorized to release that text under the GNU Free Documentation License, additional confirmation would be required, e.g. by email. (I assume this also applies to the text provided by User:Justinsofley?) However, I hope it has become clear from the deletion discussion that such text is not suitable for Wikipedia. This is a project to write an encyclopedia, where a sober, factual writing style is highly valued and opinionated advertising-like texts are not appropriate - see our neutral point of view policy. Please have a look at our Conflict of interest guidelines and be aware that Wikipedia is not a free advertising space.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * As Stardust8212 pointed out to you, you should go to WP:DRV if you want to overturn the admin decision at Articles for deletion/Stephen Arnold.
 * As the publicist of "Stephen", as you affectionately call him, you are continuing to ignore the advice at WP:COI and Autobiography. Please understand that while most Wikipedians are willing to help newcomers who want to join the community with the motivation of helping to build a free, neutral and reliable encyclopedia, several people have already spent quite some time explaining to you the principles that this article (the previous versions as well as the new one) violates, and they did so as unpaid volunteers, while you are apparently doing this because you are getting paid to promote your employer/client, a goal that other editors might not share.
 * Regards, HaeB (talk) 15:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey HaeB, thank you for your speedy reply. I posted on the page advised to me by Stardust8212 but wanted your advice as well, so I apologize if it appears I am ignoring procedure (but this is not the case).

In terms of the advice given to me I could only see the following problems;

1)	No sources. 2)	Biased Language. 3)	Not enough personal information.

I have read over the article posted yesterday, and I genuinely can not see that I have made the same mistakes as Justinsofley. I have included various sources and have stated no opinions at all. The article reads as a list of facts, a historiography of Stephen’s life.

The only thing you could argue as ‘biased’ would be the following;

“Confirmation of Stephen Arnold’s standing in the jingle world was confirmed when he was awarded an Emmy for his compositions for Comcast in 2003.”

However, I would argue that winning an Emmy award proves a certain level of professionalism.

In regards to my job, I find this a little unfair and unwarranted. The premise for me placing the article should have no bearing on the article itself. Stephen Arnold earns $3 million a year writing jingles for major TV Channels. Most of America listens to Stephen’s music daily without even knowing about it. Being a musician myself, I actually find what he does extremely fascinating – no less fascinating than Slash, Eric Clapton or Bob Dylan.

Regards, Timesrunningout (talk) 16:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Arnold
Hi, I'd love to help you with re-creating this article as a "sandbox", but I do not know the technical way to do so, because the article was redirected, rather than being deleted. I would favor the creation of a new sandboxed article, so I will place a notice on your page. Good luck! Bearian (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If you want to create a sandbox, create it at User:Timesrunningout/Sandbox. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Bearian (talk) 00:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I posted a reply on your sandbox talk page since that is where you put the helpme template. -- Nn123645 (talk) 17:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Nomination of Promax/BDA for deletion
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